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Update [2007-11-11 12:14:27 by Seth C]: I'm looking at what I believe to be the official NCAA rulebook (go ahead and download it to your computer, it will be much quicker to view) and although I haven't quite had the time to pour through all of it, here's something interesting I found:

RULE 4.

SECTION 2. Out of Bounds Player Out of Bounds

ARTICLE 1. a. A player or an airborne player is out of bounds when any part of his person touches anything, other than another player or game official, on or outside a boundary line (A.R. 4-2-1-I and II).

I tried finding the rule mentioned on the broadcast, the "toe-heel" rule, but, but haven't been able to find anything that references that rule other than the rule mentioned above and this rule seems pretty clear.

[editor's note, by Seth C] I thought this might create some discussion this morning.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AvHcUJXm97ci7.CPJjD1uqs5nYcB?slug=ap-texastech-leachrant& ;prov=ap&type=lgns
Mike Leach has finally said something about officiating in the Big 12.  Even the commentators saw Shipley's heel come down out of bounds.  That holding call was technically correct, but that's usually a no-call.  I'm not so sure this game was as bad as Leach is making it out to be, and definitely not as bad as last year's, but it has been pretty apparent that the crews favor Texas in this matchup for the last few years.

I do remember one thing that had me incensed last year:

Let's rewind to the Tech-UT game...there was an overruled Filani catch, a non-call on McCoy with an illegal pass, two bad spots on Tech completions, and numerous others.  Mike Leach sent a tape to the Big 12.  The Big 12's official response to disputed calls in the game was "any comments made toward the respective schools is not available for public release."

Now, what happened after the Missouri-Iowa State game?  Well, that Monday immediately after the game, "The league's supervisor of officials admitted Monday that the crew working Saturday's Missouri-Iowa State game made a wrong call..."

They contradicted their own "policy" by even commenting on the game.  Leach may get fined, but at least it will get some response from the conference.

[editor's note, by Seth C] I've added the following from Don Williams' blog, Raider Rants, about the officials. A much different perspective:

Leach said the way the Big 12 goes about officiating needs a major overhaul, including not allowing officials to call games of their hometown teams and bringing in crew members from faraway places to guard against perceived biases.

It was all very measured, very controlled – and even a little bit funny at one point. Leach spent a couple of minutes saying he was going to go off on officiating. At that point, he amused the pack when someone prompted him with a question.

"Are you gonna misbehave?’’ Leach asked in kidding fashion. "You don’t want to be dismissed, do ya? This is pretty good. This is as good as it gets. I mean, hang on to your seat here.’’

Leach detailed his grievances, glancing often at his play sheet, and retreated to the locker room, but that wasn’t the end of it. After one or two of his players had spoken, out came Leach again to rail against the video review system, calling it "a sham.’’

"That either needs to be done away with, or it needs to be done correctly,’’ Leach said. "It’s a brother-in-law process that makes the officials look like they get the calls right and everybody’s doing a great job of working. I’m tired of the way that we pretend we’re actually reviewing plays closely. I’m tired of the way that as soon as somebody’s about to challenge a play that they immediately review it, so that the officials can look correct like they’re cleaning their own house.’’

There were five plays reviewed in Saturday's game.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Double-T Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Double-T Nation's writers or editors.

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I'll jump in here, even though I don't have a dog in this fight, other than seeing good officiating in this conference, which would be a first.

Leach talks about the allegedly (I didn't see the questionable calls) poor officiating in the context of TTU-UT, but this is a theme I've heard before.  Hit the link below for the famous Mark Mangino "BCS, dollar signs" rant.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oFk-DWDNb1Q

I'm not quite ready to make the allegation that there's an officiating conspiracy in the Big 12, but the NBA showed us last year it's not unthinkable that those things can happen.  The four big-money schools in the conference have a lot of power, and there's a lot of money at stake.

by TB on Nov 11, 2007 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

For me, the frustrating part
was that nothing bounced Texas Tech's way yesterday, and there were opportunities for what seemed like every questionable call went to Texas.  I'm not sure that there's a discernible conspiracy, but it's damn coincidental and for Texas to win, puts them in a higher profile game, which is good for the conference.  

Granted, the defense didn't do us any favors, it's just frustrating as hell.

Go Raiders . . .

by Seth C on Nov 11, 2007 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

calls
i'm not going to blame calls or no-calls since our D  had it handed to them but it is an interesting topic.
i always wonder how the commentators decide on what they will or won't comment on.  they had no problem commenting on the foot out of bounds TD because it was played and replayed over and over.  what i don't understand is why they didn't comment on mccoy's sneak TD.  when they came back from commercial and showed the replay from the goal line perspective, you can see him fumble, drop to a knee to pick it up and then get back up and dive in.  there was some obstruction for the side judges from the people rushing on the edges but how did the umpire miss that?  that's the lone place where he is supposed to be looking.  there was noticeable silence from the commentators as the replay rolled.

by TracySaulRulz on Nov 11, 2007 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

leach
I don't think the game was that bias. He should comment more on the lack of defense (or no-defense) instead of imbarrassing himself by calling out the refs. The only questionable call in my mind was Shipleys TD, but it doesn't matter bc the way that game was going they would have scored. The hold on vasquez was a borderline call, but he did have his hands outside the shoulders and that is illegal. I am sure texas got away with some holding calls as they always seem to do, but hey if your D is giving Charles 9 yards a carry then the loss is your fault not the refs. Perhaps after this season is over we will implement tackling drills.

by ST04 on Nov 11, 2007 1:44 PM CST reply actions  

I really respect
Coach Leach for standing up for what he believes in.  Obviously, he was really bothered by the officiating, and I can agree with him to an extent.  The Shippley TD didn't really look like a TD to me.  However, the bottom line is that our defense could not stop anything that Texas did.....we only made UT punt 1 time and got a interception right before the half, but other than that Texas did exactly what they wanted on our defense.  I would have liked to see all the right calls made, but I'm not even sure that if the refs had made every call right that we would have won the game.  I will say that it would have been a lot closer though.  
liquidsmoke

by liquidsmoke on Nov 11, 2007 4:28 PM CST reply actions  

Momentum buster
was what the bad officiating did in Saturday;s game.

Take away the Texas TD on out of bounds and Tech leads thus changing the game and momentum.

Does bad officiating happen when Tech plays Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and the Kansas schools?
Absolutely.

Texas A&M has pretty much lost the respect and power they had in times past in football. However, in Basketball, baseball or the other sports there is still a bias there.

The real issue is that bad call or good call, Tech did not play 2 quarters  worth a damn on either offense or defense.

The same problems are happening on defense and will happen again next week with Oklahoma unless the defense believes in itself. Right now it does not and it takes outside factors for the D to get up to bringing in the blood and gut checking time.

That partially because the team is so damn young. In fact, I went and looked to double check. With Woods banished to the scout team, Tech is tied with Temple as the youngest team in the NCAA.

But officiating problems do need to be addressed. I think Leach is smart to address it this year and perhaps make the change before next season when there is something to expect from our team to do a Kansas type run.

Leach is right that officials who have obvious connections to a school should not be allowed to officiate that game.  Two officials on the squad, the review official and a line Judge were ex Texas grads. Another was from Texas A&M and one was from Oklahoma. The rest were from back east.

What the main complaint Leach has is that when you have officials working a game they may help their school. Oklahoma is helped by a Texas win, as well as Texas is helped by a Texas win.

So you have 3 of the five officiating that could be in a place to skew their judgement if they wanted to.

So Leach is right that the officials should not be allowed to call games which their school might benefit. In other words, NO officals who have graduated from a Big 12 school should be allowed to call a Big 12 game. That is the issue.

Also the Big 12 has to properly review the officials during the season and simply fire those who do poorly rather than allow that official to remain until the end of season review which is done in March for Football. New contracts are done in late July for officials. I would submit that the Big 12 have a replacement policy for bad officials who stink or if they find an official being biased in a game. In this way, the officials are less likely to go bad because to get fired would pretty much ruin their career if they got fired midseason.

Something to consider. But Leach is right to address it this year as the trend has been going for some time in both hiring policy and how the Big 12 officiating works not just in Football but in all sports.

Complaining about bad officials is not the same as complaining about a bad outcome game. They are two different issues. Sometimes a bad official costs a game by their call which make these issues the same. But in this case, a Tech loss and bad officiating is not the same thing nor is the reasons behind the issue.

What Leach is up set about is that there were places in the game that should have been properly reviewed. They were not. It took Leach to call twice for a review to actually get the review.

Leach would have reviewed the McCoy fumble downed and TD call but could not. It could not be reviewed because Tech was out of reviews and the official in the both did not call for one.

What people do not understand is that in the official review booth there is a Texas coach and a Tech Coach along with the official and two offical Technical people who work the eqipment.
Leach called the coach in the booth to ask what the hell was going on in the booth and to ask the question.

When the review official in the booth is screaming for Texas and high fiving the Texas Coach for every Texas event it just well made Leach mad which would have made any head coach mad who learned of this.

So in this case the issue is not about sour grapes about the loss. Its about fixing a problem that should never have happened in the first place.

by pablo @ Double-T Nation on Nov 11, 2007 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

Bias
I think someone else mentioned it but I think it's worth mentioning again.
Maybe some of the bias is not because the official wants it to be consciously, but some split-second decisions may be affected subconsciously due to their affiliation with the team playing.
Obvious calls/no-calls aside, this is another good reason to have officials with as little association with either team possible.
I'm hoping that Leach, or one of his assistants, takes full advantage of the amount of video available to build a case.  Otherwise, and it may happen anyway, people will start dismissing him as another Mike Gundy.

by TracySaulRulz on Nov 11, 2007 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

hm
"What people do not understand is that in the official review booth there is a Texas coach and a Tech Coach along with the official and two offical Technical people who work the eqipment.
Leach called the coach in the booth to ask what the hell was going on in the booth and to ask the question.

When the review official in the booth is screaming for Texas and high fiving the Texas Coach for every Texas event it just well made Leach mad which would have made any head coach mad who learned of this."

do you have any source for this? this would be justification for leach's rant, but i've gotta have more than a rumor.

by kayakyakr on Nov 11, 2007 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

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