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Our Defense

Our Defense

 

As we all know, our defense continues to disappoint.  The play of our linebackers and secondary has just been horrible.  I am not sure how to diagnose our problems, but can only hope that the second half of the A&M game is a harbinger of better things to come.  I can’t understand how our secondary and linebackers always seem to be caught out of position.  Personally, I think the schemes are not effective, and the talent level is not of a high enough caliber.  Having said that, I think the scheme is more important than talent, and to me so far our performance is not acceptable.  To paraphrase Don Rumsfeld, you play with the team you have – but, that doesn’t excuse poor coaching.

 

Against A&M, the defensive line played well, but the linebackers and secondary have to do their jobs and make plays.

 

Our defense has surrendered 400 or more yards against Nevada (488) and Nebraska (471).  We held KSU to less than 300 yards and A&M to 307 yards. It’s hard to tell what that means, other than our defense is capable of playing very poorly, but has showed some glimpses of being a solid squad. 

 

We are giving up an average of 350 yards a game, which includes our soft preseason schedule, and ranks us at number 58 in the country between Duke and North Carolina (not exactly the best company)  - just inside the top half of college football.

 

According to Fox Sports, we are number 12 in the country against the run (yards per game), but 104th in the country against the pass (yards per game).  I think it is fair to say that our rank against the run is probably a function of our rank against the pass (why run when you can pass all day long).   

 

We rank number 43 in points allowed per game, putting us a couple of slots down behind OU and OSU.  The 31 points we allowed against Nebraska, was our highest of the year (14 points higher than Missouri allowed).

 

Needless to say the jury is out on our man Ruffin.

 

In absolute terms, our defensive numbers are not impressive.  However, what the numbers tell us below is that relative to our Big 12 counterparts, our defense is not all that dissimilar in performance thus far.  When seen through the lens of defensive performance, our chances of running the table  - still a distant thought at this point – actually look somewhat plausible. 

 

Kansas

 

Kansas is a very winnable game, more so than we may think.

 

In its losses, Kansas’s defense gave up 674 yards of offense against OU and 458 yards of offense against South Florida.  In victories against Iowa State and Sam Houston State, they gave up 375 yards. 

 

Kansas is a worse defensive team than we are.   Kansas ranks number 65 in total yards allowed per game; number 30 in rushing yards allowed per game; number 100 in passing yards allowed per game; and number 47 in points allowed per game. 

 

Like us, Kansas has a prolific offense, but also suffers from a weak defense.   

 

If our defense shows up like it did against Kansas State and second half A&M, we should win this game in a walk.  If we have a Nebraska-like performance, then it will be up to our offense to win a shoot out (which we are capable of doing).

 

I think the odds-makers are seriously underestimating our ability to win this game.

 

Texas

 

Texas’ defense gave up 435 yards against OU and 412 yards against UTEP, but held Missouri to 350+ yards and has manhandled everyone else.

 

Texas is ranked 39 in yards allowed per game; number 2 in rushing yards allowed per game; but 112 versus the pass – slightly higher than SMU; and 25 in points allowed

 

Should we beat Kansas, this is a game where there is complete asymmetry - our number one passing offense against UT’s terrible passing defense.

 

If our defense holds up – a huge IF at this point – this is a game we can steal.

 

With home field advantage, we have a better chance of winning this game than we think.

 

Oklahoma State

 

Oklahoma State’s defense has given up 400 yards plus of total offense to Houston, Troy, Texas A&M (who we held to 306 yards), and Missouri.  In games versus inferior teams (Washington State, Missouri State and Baylor) Oklahoma State held their opponents to around 200 yards. 

 

However, the defense is opportunistic.  Against Troy and Missouri, the Cowboys created 3 turnovers. Against Texas A&M, they created 5 turnovers.

 

Oklahoma State is ranked number 47 in yards allowed per game number 35 against the run; number 78 against the pass; and number 40 in points allowed.

 

My final analysis is that OK State’s ranking is pretty flimsy.  Like us, they have a prolific offense, but also a weak defense.  In a shoot-out, I take TTU at home.

 

OK State’s biggest victory has been against Missouri, who should finish 10-2  - so we have to acknowledge that it’s a big win, and the reason why they are now ranked ahead of us for the moment.

 

OK State still has to play UT, Tech and OU (not to mention @ CU).  They also play ISU.  I predict losses against the first three and a loss at CU.  That should take OSU down to 8-4 for the year – ranked, but not the 7th best team in the country.

 

This is a game we should win at home.

 

Oklahoma

 

OU has the best defense in the Big 12 South. 

 

OU ranks number 34 in yards per game; 32 in rushing yards allowed per game; 62 in passing yards allowed per game; and 41 in points allowed per game.

 

In my mind, it is too early for predictions at this point.   This one’s on the road, and we’ll just have to see where our team is at that point.

 

Go Tech!!

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Good Anaylsis

Well done. …… Again we win in a high scoring game this week. And I think anything is possible @ Home against Texas. I just dearly want to get to Texas 8 and 0!!!!!!!!! Wreck’em

by techgolf44 on Oct 20, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Job LondonRaider.

Great Job LondonRaider.
 Our defense continues to befuddle me. I was at the game and then re-watched it Sunday. Like Seth C’s earlier grade out of the units from the TAMU game the best unit remains the defensive Line. Essentially in the TAMU game we lived off of the 5-6 QB hurries and the 4 sacks. Without those stellar plays we could have easily seen a 31 – 30 score going into the last 4 minutes and maybe its TAMU trying to run the clock out at home. With the great crowd noise thundering the over our heads. I rightly recognize the fact that it’s an 11 man team effort for the defensive unit. No one position or single player makes or breaks a series. But I believe the strength of the Tackles and defensive ends is going carry the team. From here on out. I don’t expect the LB’s or D Backs to get better in a quantum leap up in performance. Maybe they get a bit smarter now that they have 7 games under their belts. I watched the D- line miss Jerrod Johnson 5 – 7 times by a whisker just sliding out of an arm tackle. I don’t believe Tood Reesing avoids these big mitts rushing in on him. He can certainly out throw Johnson but look for the rush to take his throwing game away. That is down the field. He will complete the same 7-9 yarders just like we do. That being said realistically he’s going to throw over 350 yards on us. I.e. their offensive execution is good. I predict an intangible an effective rush would equal more take aways by the D backs because of the rush disrupting Reesing (kind like TTU vs MIzzou last year). So what’s it all mean? The Defense performs adequately with incremental improvements.

by centexraider on Oct 20, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good job

with the analysis. I also like how the schedule sets up for us so far. We have had plenty of tune-ups, now it’s time for the big boys. As far as the big boys, Kansas is a good team to start with. Their defense is not stellar, which will allow our offense to keep humming along while our defense can stay calm and focus on playing a very good offensive team. If they can be successful and keep the Big12 North’s first place team under 30 points, we will not only win the game but also win much needed confidence going into the UT game at home.

The UT game can go in any direction. I’m just having flashbacks to 2005 which set up almost identically. UT was number 2 in the newly released BCS and Tech was around 7 or 8, but we hadn’t played anyone good yet and all the analysts were saying the exact same thing as this year, “We still don’t know how good Tech really is, so we’ll find out after this game.” And we all know how it turned out…UT 52, Tech 17. And looking at the box score from that game, it doesn’t look like the offense did too bad.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=252950251

They just get couldn’t get much going or finish drives at only 5-16 on 3rd downs and one each of fumble and interception. Good things: We possessed the ball for 36 minutes, Taruean ran for almost 100 yards, Hodges total passing yards were good at 369 (but only 5.3 per attempt). Bad: you look closer and notice that we had 5!!! three and outs while Vince and Co. averaged 3.5 plays per scoring drive!!! You want to talk about scoring at will. You will not win games with those numbers. It was a classic case of getting steamrolled by a clearly superior opponent.

Some minor differences this year, though, to our advantage. This year, we have been highly ranked for the whole season, so the team has had time to adjust to the spotlight as the season goes on, the teams get better, and the spotlight gets brighter. In 2005, we came out of nowhere and were blindsided with “bigheadedness” (if that is a word). We screwed the pooch and got stomped by the Vincehorns.

Our quarterback has been in charge for 3 years now and has fought through some big wins, instead of the annual 5th year player/1st year starter from those days. And although we had some great receivers on that team, the depth and concentration of our guys this year should definitely outperform those guys. And we have already fought through some adversity this year with a couple close games and clear problems on defense and special teams.

The most obvious advantage is that the game is at home this year. The game was decided by 4 points in a 2006 loss and a 2002 win. Sandwiched in between those, though, was a 30 point loss.

In conclusion, based on the history of this game, anything can happen. It totally depends on which Tech team shows up, since we already know which Texas team will. This is our chance to turn that corner. I think our time is due and it starts with getting the job at a tough game on the road in Kansas this week.

by pcrawttu on Oct 20, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just beat Kansas

I wrote it earlier but I wholeheartly believe if TECH focuses on KU and wins, anything is possible. I was at the OU game last year and I only hoped we would play well and we won. I just want to see us have the chance to beat texas in Lubbock. If we don’t fine but we hopefully will be 8-0 goin in!!!!!!! Wreck’em TECH

by techgolf44 on Oct 20, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm definitely a homer

but someone please fire our special teams coach……also tech goes 1-3 in the next 4 games. if i’m wrong i buy beers for everyone on my porch. Smoke and mirrors boys, this is barely a top 20 team

by allknowing on Oct 20, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Obviously not an informed homer

While I agree with you that our Special Teams is obviously not recieving the amount of attention it requires at this point, I ask how this team is decieving in its ranking and performance.

our offense is one of the -if not the most dangerous offense in the Nation:

In the past 6 games:
SMU – Offense scores on 7 of 13 drives

Of the non scoring drives:
2 punts (one with Potts in)
1 fumble
1 missed FG
and we had possesions end with halftime/end of game…you take away our mistakes and the last drive of the game…

we were stopped on 3 of 13 posessions (23)
With Gh and 1st Team O, we go 7/11 (63.6)

UMASS – Offense scored on 8 of 12 drives

On the non scoring drives:
Fumble
2 punts (both in 4th qtr, in which Potts had taken over)
End of Game

So out of 12 drives, we were stopped 2 times. With our backups. In the end we were stopped on 16% of our drives.
With GH and 1st team Offense in, we go 8/9 (88%)

KANSAS STATE – Offense scored on 9 of 13 drives

On the non-scording drives:
Turnover on downs
Punt (Potts In)
Interception (Potts in)
End of game

On 13 drives, we were stopped 2 times (15.4)…one of which with GH out…
with GH in game, offense goes 9/10 (90) with turnover on downs only stop

NEBRASKA – Offense scored on 6/9 drives

Of the non-scoring drives:
2 punts
End of half (given the ball with 29 seconds left and are unable to score)

So we score on 6 of 8 legitimate possessions (75%) and are truly stopped twice

A&M – Offense scores on 7 of 12 drives

Of the non-scoring drives:
2 INTs
1 fumble
1 punt
one posession ending at halftime (where we were still able to move 21 yards in 22 seconds)

So in 11 legitimate possessions, we score on 7 of them (63.6) and are truly stopped by them once (9)

So in the past 5 games we have had
59 Total Drives
51 of which had the First Team offense in

Of those 51 drives we have scored 37 times (73)
Of those 51 drives we did not score 14 times (27)
Of those 14 times we did not score:
5 were due to turnovers
1 missed FG
2 drives I do not consider legitimate drives due to little time left before halftime/end of game (halftime at A&M and last drive of regulation vs. Nebraska)

So in the end out of the 51 possessions we were truly stopped by the other’s teams defense 6 times (including the ‘stop’ by SMU where we didnt score before halftime)

6/51 drives means we have been stopped on 12% of our drives and if we dont include the SMU stop its around 10% if drives we are stopped.

I would ask you try and find an offense with that type of consistent production.

The fact of the matter that with an offense that, if it does not make mistakes, will score on close to 90% of the time. All you need is a defense that can make a stop one out of every 5 drives, and we will win by two posessions.

I would love to here 20 teams in the nation (hell ten teams) that could do that…

by mtepper on Oct 20, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our D...the schedule ahead

Before I dive in to my opinion, I will first preface that on Saturday I attended the Tech-A&M game AND the Mizzou-Texas game. (Yes a very long day, but who else can say they saw 3 teams in the top 11 in one day…yes i know…my sports fandom is borderline insane…and while i wore a neutral colored grey shirt at the game, so as to not upset my UT alum friend who was nice enough to wear a Crabtree for Hesiman shirt in B/CS, I was proudly sporting my Tech hat in Austin)

What to take from Saturday in Kyle:

The D-Line is legit. For 3 straight conference games, I have seen them completely shut down any and all plays that occur between the tackles. They also have don e agrab job containing all three QBs, including two who have above average scrambling/running abilities (Freeman and Johnson). No complaints on that end.

With our LBs I guess I am a little on the fence with them. They have done a good job IMO with not letting runs break past the 2nd level and I feel they have done great in pass coverage when playing against TEs, passes to the short and center side of the field. For two games now we are basically seeing what alsmot cost us the 06 UTEP game. Teams are forcing our LBs to cover slot recievers and – as expected – they cannot keep up with them. Period.

The safeties I feel have been playing well this season with the exception of A&M and Nebraska. For whatever reason, they have just been leaving the 10-15 yard middle of the field wide open for the past two weeks. Whether this has to do with them trying to give support to the LBs who are trying to cover these slot recievers or they are playing the deep halves too much exposing this area of the field, but something needs to change.

The CBs (other than Wall and sometimes Reed) I feel do not have the talent, but the fact of the matter the scheme they are given to run is very ineffective, this could result in major trouble for us later down the line. I have given up on trying to argue the 7-8 yard cushion thing and in all honesty, if Ruff wants to run that type of game plan with the CBs, other changes have to be made to prevent temas from nickel and diming us all game.

I suggest we go with a Nickel/4-2-5 look. Put Hines back at FS and move McBath to a Nickel back/Rover. The kid has proven he can disrupt a run and can aid in the contain of any outside runs and outside of Wall I think he is our best man-to-man defender.

We should take advantage of the fact that we do have a good D-line and do what we can to support the portion of our D that has the potential to cost us games.

Anyways onto the outlook of our remaining. I have not watched too much of KU this year so I cannot give too much of an informed opinion of the game. Ruff should have the D-line look at last years KU-Mizzou game to see that if you cannot get pressure on Reesing to put your hands up. Reesing’s height does have an impact on his throws and if we play it right we should be abel to knock down a number of his passes on Saturday.

In reagrds to the Texas-Mizzou game, take note of what Texas has done this year but take it with a grain of salt. Yes Texas totally manhandled Mizzou in the first half but if you look into the game a little more you will see Texas’ D has more cracks in it than appears.

First, Mizzou’s O-Line was getting destroyed all game. Daniel had very little time in the pocket all game and Mizzou never could get the run game going. The INT he threw in the 4th was a direct result of the UT’s pressure.

Second, it was very evident that Mizzou was rattled by the crowd/environment for the first quarter and a half. With the north endzone renovation complete, DKR is easily now top 5 toughest places to play. The crowd of over 98k created a very loud and very hostile environment to play in and Mizzou has not played in an environment even close to this since last year in Norman. To me, this is on Pinkel for not having his players mentally focused and in the end, it took his offense the whole first quarter to settle down.

and when they did…

Third, Texas’ secondary has a lot of holes in it. Starting the 2nd drive of the 2nd QTR, Mizzou’s offense was finally in sync and had their way with the Longhorns’ D.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/drivechart?gameId=282920251

If you notice, on this drive they find some success and take the ball all the way down inside the ten and turn it over on downs after a TD catch was reversed after replay. From there, the only time Texas stopped Mizzou was on Daniel’s INT (which as I mentioned was caused due to the pressure applied by Texas’ D-Line) and the FG (in which Mizzou moved 40+ yards in about 40 seconds to kick a FG as the half expired).

To me, Texas defensive situation is almosy mirrored to us. Great D-Line, Decent LB play (great in run support, not so much on pass D), not too great of talent in secondary.

The only difference in my mind is the coaches. With his D’s performance in the first half against Mizzou, Muschamp all but punched his ticket out of Austin and made himself the most eligible coaching prospect in the nation. I will be interested to see what schemes he comes up with for the next 2 weeks.

After watching Mizzou, I have confidence that our O-Line will be able to provide more protection. If that is the case Graham should be able to pick a part their D. If Coach Leach is reading this, if you take one thing away from this, it is this: DO NOT EVEN TRY TO GET THE RUN GAME GOING AGAINST TEXAS. It will be a futile effort, with the strength of that d-line and Muschamps elaborate blitz packages, we will be lucky to crack the 50 total rush yard mark. And with the way McCoy is playing and his ability to methodically move down the field eating up the clock, every offensive possesion counts and while it’s nice to keep the defense honest, we will be in a shootout with Texas and we need to go with what we do best and pass the shit out of the ball on Nov. 1.

by mtepper on Oct 20, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What an overachiever

you are, Tepper. That’s awesome though. I can’t say I wouldn’t have gone to both games if I had the chance.

by djollie111 on Oct 20, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought I

read somewhere that Muschamp didn’t blitz very much against Mizzou, but rather dropped 3 and was (now I remember it was Dr. Saturday, here). I’m thinking we can handle the 3 and 4 man fronts and we’ve got to run.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Oct 21, 2008 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also,

tremendous analysis by everyone. This is great stuff.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Oct 21, 2008 7:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

more stats......

Lets check out some stats to start things off at this moment. Tech has had an average of 92 yards per game, which is 3.0 yards per carry ran against the Rush Defense…. thats second in the BIG 12, only behind UT. In the secondary, Tech has had about 258 yards against them, which breaking it down is right around 10 yards per completion. Take into consideration this…. ALL these BIG 12 teams have an average of NO LESS than 201 yards per game thrown on them. Only one team in the BIG 12 has less than 10 yards per completion on average, OSU with about an average of 9.9 ypc. The teams with less than 10.5 yards per completion against the Secondary….. Tech, KSU, and A&M. The remainder of the 8 teams are well over 10.5 ypc. No matter what people are thinking about the Tech secondary, they are doing fine, considering the competition in the BIG 12. Tech has only 7 TD’s against the Secondary, second to only OU and CU…. both with 5. Tech has only 8 TD’s against them, tied for 3rd with Mizzou and KU…. only behind OSU with 7 TD’s and UT with 2 TD’s.

As for the Offense, everyone knows what is being done there…. they are doing a fantastic job in this area. Almost 300 passing yards more than the 2nd best in the BIG 12, sacked only once, an INT every 57 passes (including Potts 1 INT), along with 23 TD’s (only behind OU…. 27). On the ground this team is effective….5.5 yards per carry….TIED for 1st along with OSU in the BIG 12. The team is 3rd in TD’s with 20 only behind OSU with 24 and UT with 21. This team may have struggled against NU, but take into consideration this…..

Tech destroyed them in Lubbock last time 70-10; Tech beat them at their homecoming the following season by an amazing comeback drive in the closing minutes; NU had just lost 2 straight games…. V Tech, which they had won by costly turnovers and to Mizzou, in their worst Home loss ever. Tech had all odds against them in that homecoming game, yet came out ontop. In the A&M game, its always been a tough one in College Station… 2nd half adjustments paid off greatly in this game. As for KSU, they did BEAT UT the past two seasons under Ron Prince.

And you guys think thats something within the Conference…. lets look a little broader….. Within the FBS.

First the Defense…. not bad numbers at a glance. Yes at first, you may notice a 118.9 rating sits the Red Raiders at 53rd in the nation in defending the pass. Lets go a little more in depth…. Sacks at 18th, tieing them at 9th in the nation; INT at 11th tieing them at 4th; yards/attempt at 6.6, tieing them at 17th; TD’s at 7th, tieing them at 7th in the nation. Now in the rushing department……. A 3.0 average per carry and limiting the oppostion to 8 TD’s, tieing them at 8th in both catagories. Then limiting the oppostion to a total of 647 yards in 7 games, tieing them at 15th in the nation. No worries, Tech is doing just fine on the Defensive side of the ball. In all categories, other than the Defensive rating, nothing over 17th in the nation.

Now the Offfense…. better in numbers by far. The only “bad” stat is total rushing yards at 970…. and that sits them at 64th in the nation. But looking at a bit deeper….. Tech is tied at 6th in average yards per carry (5.5) and TD’s (20). In the passing department, their rating is at a respectable 159.2, sitting them at 10th in the nation. The “worst” part of the passing game is yards per attempt, 8.5 sitting them at 11th in the nation. Tech is 1st in total yards at 2929 and tied 1st in sacks at 1. They are 2nd in completions per attempt at 236/343; Tied 5th in TD’s at 23; Tied 6th in INT’s with 6; Tied 8th in QB percentage at 68.8.

This team has been improving since day 1, and continues to improve. Bet you people are probably thinking, this team has played noone yet….. well, their opponents records may not show too much and at first glance. Tech seems like they have really played noone on the defensive side of the ball, but lets take a quick look at some of Tech’s previous offenses in the past 8 weeks of play. If you go and check out their stats, you will plainly see that no team in this group, has less than a 214 yard passing average per game (Nevada), up to 302 yards per game passing (SMU); only one team under 100 yards rushing per game (SMU with 50, next lowest is EWU with 103), and up to a 305 yard rushing average per game (Nevada). The only teams Tech was not able to keep under its average would be the Nevada and Nebraska passing game…. allowing 264 yards in the air, but kept the Wolf Pack to only to 19 points; surrendering 357 yards to NU, yet they kept the QB contained (he is a very agile QB, he can run the ball, is NU’s 4th best rusher, Tech kept him to -5 yards). Checking these stats, shows that each of these teams to be ranked anywhere from 6th in total offense to 76th in total offense. Nevada having the highest, A&M having the lowest, even UMASS has 378 total offense (sits them around 53rd in the FBS stats) and EWU at 403 total yards (sits them around 38th). The other teams had total offenses of 352 (SMU at 71st), 408 (KSU at 34th) and 438 (NU at 18th). The Red Raiders had a mild setback against NU, but things may be back on track after the 2nd half of the A&M game. Lets just see how things go against KU…. if Tech beats the Jayhawks by atleast 17 points watchout Horns, Cowboys, and Sooners. I am proud of what Tech is doing this season and have decided to cut out all speculations from commentators and analysts until I do see this team lose. Does it mean I will stop being a Tech fan if/when they do lose??? H3!! NO, I am proud of this team…. always have always will.

WRECK EM TECH!!!!!

by txt3ch6uy on Oct 21, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would respectfully disagree that the offenses we’ve played are a good measuring stick. They aren’t and it’s not just “numbers.”

Look at it this way…if, say, UMass, EWU and Nevada all lined up against say, OU, UT and OSU, what do you think the outcome would be? Exactly.

The numbers Tech has posted defensively have come against some of the weakest teams we’ve played in recent memory. And we’re still rather anemic on that side of the ball. I completely disregard our INT number as an indicator of how good that piece of the pie is because five of those came against a true freshman QB playing on one of the worst teams in D-I (SMU). Take those away, and we have 6 in 6 other games. That’s not terrible by any means, but it’s not a true judge of performance. The thing about stats is, as Texas’ defensive coordinator say’s, they’re for losers. (no, I’m not calling you a loser)

There is zero chance we can win a division, conference or national championship without outstanding defense – as we will soon find out in the next month. It bugs me to no end that this team has so much potential year in and year out and the defensive side is always, ALWAYS the reason we don’t acheive more success. It’s the same this year. I have no confidence that our boys and our coaches will rise up to the massive challenge that faces us. I have always been and will always be a “show me” kind of guy. Until the Red Raiders show me, I have nothing but history to rely on. Potential, as we’ve seen in the last 8 yrs, means jack squat. Performance is all that counts. And against the better teams, our performance has typically (yes, there are a few excpetions) been jack squat.

Think about it…we were one holding penalty and one slightly overthrown pass from being in the fight of our lives against the Aggies. This is the same Ag team that needed some last minute heroics to keep from being beat at home by Army and an Ag team that indeed lost at home to Arkansas State. Yes, the defense stepped up the second half, but against a KU or UT or whomever is left, if they play like crap the first half, we simply won’t have enough to catch up. We were quite lucky to be down by three. Could easily have been 21. But it wasn’t, so I do give them credit.

Basically, I’m tired of 8-4 year in and year out – and having the exact same thing be the reason; defense. Sure, it’s a nice bowl game and keeps us in the semi-spotlight. But I’m ready to be a national presence, not a south division presence.

At some point, Leach will HAVE to realize that he’s got to get someone in here who gives a huge crap about the play of our defense. He HAS to realize that just better than average is not going to keep passing muster. His offense put a lot of butts in seats, and that’s awesome. But soon, the natives will get restless if there aren’t steps up instead of steps sideways. Those butts will want to see some wins over real teams on a more than abberation basis. It’s all fun and games to walk over a crap KSU or a crap Aggie team. But where he earns it is versus OU, UT, OSU and whoever else is good.

End Rant.

by Tech92 on Oct 21, 2008 11:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way...

If we want stats…
Tech, as of today, checks in defensively at:
Pass Defense 103rd (lower 25 percent)
Rush Defense 12th (upper 25 percent – sadly, most teams we will play aren’t geared to run)
Scoring Defense 43rd (second 25 percent)
Total Defense 58th (darn near smack dab in the middle)

Just an FYI for those interested.

by Tech92 on Oct 21, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dud

Sorry, OSU runs more than passes…

by Tech92 on Oct 21, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tech chances against Texas. A reality Check!

First Tech and UT box score from 2007:

                                                     TT UT
FIRST DOWNS………………. 26 33
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)………… 7-10 62-283
PASSING YDS (NET)…………. 466 268
Passes Att-Comp-Int……….. 48-36-1 30-21-1
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS….. 55-476 92-551
Fumble Returns-Yards………. 0-0 0-0
Punt Returns-Yards………… 1-4 1-5
Kickoff Returns-Yards……… 5-100 6-107
Interception Returns-Yards…. 1-0 1-2
Punts (Number-Avg)………… 1-41.0 1-48.0
Fumbles-Lost……………… 1-0 3-0
Penalties-Yards…………… 6-68 7-89
Possession Time…………… 19:48 40:12
Third-Down Conversions…….. 3 of 7 12 of 18
Fourth-Down Conversions……. 0 of 1 4 of 4
Red-Zone Scores-Chances……. 4-5 7-7
Sacks By: Number-Yards…….. 1-7 1-7

OU vs Texas 2008 Box score:
    
                                          UT OU
1st Downs 23 20
Total Yards 438 435
Passing 277 387
Rushing 161 48
Penalties 6-55 10-73
3rd Down Convers 6-13 7-15
4th Down Convers 0-0 0-3
Turnovers 0 2
Possession 37:10 22:50

Missoui v Texas boxscore 2008

                                         MU UT
1st Downs 24 32
Total Yards 348 591
Passing 318 388
Rushing 30 203
Penalties 6-61 8-80
3rd Down Convers 5-10 10-12
4th Down Convers 0-1 0-0
Turnovers 1 0
Possession 23:34 36:26

What you will find from all of these statistics is that no one runs much against Texas. The team to rush the most against Texas this year was Colorado. They tried it a total of 15 times. Which means that basically no one is trying to rush against Texas this year.

The most rushing yards given up by Texas is 68 yards. Even so UT was burned by all teams with quick fast straight runs which averaged 8 yards a carry.

Thus draws and counters are not the best type of runs against Texas. They take too long to develop. But Texas also over pursues. Texas was burned twice with a trick counter reverse 3 times over the last 2 years. The longest run was 17 yards.

Texas has given up all its yards passing defensively. This is a product of no one running against them. OSU will be the only team who will try to rush more than 30 carries against Texas.

Defensively, Texas has a very solid defense against the Run.

However they are terrible agaist the pass. The problem is that Texas tees up after they get ahead because they know the other team has to throw the ball in order to win. Thus they bring great pressure.

Offensively, Texas success depends on McCoy running the ball. McCory acounts for nearly 1/2 of all rushing attempts of Texas this season. Prevent McCoy from rushing, Texas falls. Its the same issue with Tebow at Florida.

Thus Tech has to assign a player whose only job is to prevent McCoy from rushing or scrambling for yards. This is how Tebow caused the Florida lose and it will be how Texas will fall.

The Texas offense depends too much on McCoy even though they are trying to develop their running backs. McCoy has been forced to run to keep drives alive and to make the plays. The challenge is to take McCoy’s running ability out of the game and force him to beat Tech passing. If McCoy has to be Tech passing, Texas loses.

by Pablo M on Oct 21, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Our defense

Our defensive coordinator Will Muschamp said that stats are for losers. While stats are certainly important to analyze games after the fact, they can be misleading.

I know it’s popular to label our secondary as porous, but they’re improving steadily every week and had to face two top offenses the past two weeks. There are several reasons why our passing statistics look like that:

1. Teams can’t run on us. At all. Obviously, they have to try something else.

2. If you put up as many points as we do, obviously you force the opponent to try to keep up.

3. We’ve been in many blowouts. For instance, while none of us at Texas are particularly happy that we gave Missouri 31 points (28 in the second half), they were 31 meaningless points. Check out The Boy’s statistical analysis of that game at Rock M Nation. He points out that while, to someone who just woodenly looked at some offensive numbers, the game appeared at the end as some sort of shootout in which Texas pulled away at the end, his “close game” stats show (as anyone who watched the game knows) that it was never, ever a game between Texas and Missouri. Texas blasted Mizzou early and just coasted. Again, we’d like to see our defense keep up the intensity that kept that potent offense in check in the first half, but it’s understandable they’d let up a little. Not to mention we started rotating more second and third stringers in along with our starters. So it’s a bit inaccurate, as a poster above states, that Missouri’s offense had its way with us. They were simply fighting to save face after we clearly established who was the superior team.

Furthermore, I think some posters here betray some homerism glasses or perhaps simply haven’t watched the games. Colt is not running as much as he did at the beginning of the year, particularly with the emergence of Chris Ogbonnaya. We have Cody Johnson for short yardage and just got Whittaker back. It is true that in the beginning, we relied on Colt to use his legs a lot as we searched for consistent production among our RB’s, but that has changed. It’s not accurate to believe that simply stopping Colt from running will cause Texas to fall.

I’m also a bit interested to hear that if Colt tries to pass to a victory, we’ll lose. He’s completing over 80% of his passes and took down both OU and Missouri with precision passing. Tech most certainly doesn’t have as good a defense as OU, and while MIzzou’s defense isn’t great, I’d take them over the Red Raiders.

I honestly would feel pretty darn confident if this game was in Austin, but in Lubbock, strange things happen. We’ve struggled there and Tech certainly has a potent offense that can take advantage of our improving but still young secondary. Of course, we shouldn’t look too far ahead as neither of us has easy games this Saturday, but regardless of what happens, it should be an exciting game in Lubbock. See you in a couple weeks.

by TheElusiveShadow on Oct 21, 2008 11:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lots of good points here and I don't have time to get to all of them, but

Colt is actually running more in the last three than he did in the first four, he’s just gaining as many yards (sorry for formatting):

08/30/08 Fla. Atlantic Grass W 52-10 12 103 8.58 1
09/06/08 @ UTEP Turf W 42-13 5 8 1.60 0
09/20/08 Rice Grass W 52-10 8 83 10.38 1
09/27/08 Arkansas Grass W 52-10 9 84 9.33 2
10/04/08 @ Colorado Grass W 38-14 11 39 3.55 0
10/11/08 + 4 Oklahoma Grass W 45-35 14 31 2.21 0
10/18/08 16 Missouri Grass W 56-31 11 23 2.09 2

And this is a question, because I haven’t watched every UT game, are teams unable to run, or just choosing to pass? I know, it’s chicken or the egg, but the same could be said about Texas Tech, but I think it’s more of a product of the pass defense being the weaker of the two and most of the teams Texas Tech has played are passing teams, which might be the same for Texas.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Oct 22, 2008 4:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have watched a few UT games: teams are unable to run, their defensive line is just that good.

But, that said, UT’s pass defense is their weakness and as soon as Missouri started playing their game on offense and not trying to force plays, they started picking up yards. We don’t have a tight end like coffman, but I think that we can put up some yards and some points provided that our line is able to control their line. Reed (who hasn’t yet played a game up to last year’s standards) vs Orakpo is going to be a great matchup to watch.

At this point, the only team I care about beating is Kansas. Everything else will come later.

by kayakyakr on Oct 22, 2008 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams can't run

But of course, many know that coming in and so still build their gameplan on passing. We’ve faced several good quarterbacks (even if they aren’t on good teams, like Clement from Rice), so obviously those teams will go to their strengths. However, teams like OU and Missouri still tried to establish some semblance of balance, as all teams should, and totally failed to generate a respectable run attack on us. Even if teams know that our secondary is the most vulnerable part of our defense, they do not want to be one-dimensional as that allows our defensive line to pin their ears back and go after their QB. I don’t think anyone wants Orakpo, Melton, Miller, and Houston (and Kindle our linebacker) simply gunning at their quarterback all the time. When you guys play us, it would be a good idea to try to mix in a run game, even if it looks bleak at first.

by TheElusiveShadow on Oct 22, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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