The entire head-to-head argument is out of context, but again, I point out that Texas Tech and...

The entire head-to-head argument is out of context, but again, I point out that Texas Tech and Texas was "settled on the field," and literally no one still considers that result an adequate standard by which to compare Tech and Texas in the polls. There are eleven other games' worth of mitigating information. I'm not sure what makes the Raiders' winning touchdown in that game "a miracle," or what could possibly make them the No. 2 team in the nation on one field but not another, especially less than a month after throttling Kansas in Lawrence by six touchdowns for their fifth straight win outside of Lubbock. So if you're judging by a criteria called "quality of win," it doesn't get more quality than the show the Sooners put on Saturday. Get serious here: Exactly how many of Oklahoma's 65 points were attributable to "home field advantage"? Be precise.

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On the first part of this message, I should clarify that it's not "Texas over Oklahoma" that gets me worked up, because there's a legitimate case for Texas; I'm still not sure which team I'll have in front on my Blog Poll ballot on Wednesday morning, and whoever gets left out of the Big 12 Championship based on opinion polls will be egregiously wronged either way. As Kevin says, my ire is directed at the logic of ranking Texas ahead of Oklahoma solely because of the head-to-head result, when Texas Tech's win over UT and Oklahoma's huge win over Tech renders that line of argument moot. If you're going to argue for Texas (or anyone else), it has to be based on the entire body of work.

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I couldn't agree more......

And, no matter what, we’re going to have in the BCS, a Big East ‘Champion’ and an ACC ‘Champion’. Whilst the three and maybe 4 (OSU), teams atop the Big 12 deserve to be there more. One of us has to be left out unless 2 B12 teams are in the Championship game. I can’t help but think that it’s gonna be Tech that gets the hose. I hope I’m wrong. An OSU win would change everything, but I’m not sure they’ve got it. Maybe. We’ll see. Bottom line: Tech, OU, UT, and OkSt., all deserve BCS more than any ACC or Big East auto-bid paper champ.

Go Tech!!!

by jwhitettu on Nov 25, 2008 2:52 PM CST reply actions

We just need to document the arguments.

To the extend that Texas fans want to emphasize their head-to-head advantage over OU because the two teams settled matters on the field, we just need to make sure those arguments are made familiar if OU loses to Oklahoma State. In our best case scenario, which seems remote to me but I remain hopeful that justice could be done, OU loses this weekend, and we take care of business against Baylor and Missouri. Neither result is certain, or necessarily even likely (I just don’t know). What I do know is that a 12-1 Texas Tech would have a better record than Texas and a head-to-head victory over them and would NOT have a 3-way tie breaker scenario to argue against, as OU will have lost two games. Texas voters will have to explain why Texas should’ve won what they’ve essentially billed as an 11-1 head-to-head comparison with OU in virtue of their win, but that they should likewise win a 12-1 vs. 11-1 comparison against a team they lost to.

Texas fans will want to have it both ways. They can only have it both ways is voters allow them to. I think that would be monstrously unfair.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Nov 25, 2008 4:26 PM CST reply actions

Oh yes there was a miracle in the ut/Tech game

and it was when the ref picked up the flag for one of two blocks in the back on Shipley’s return. Go back and look at the video, Shipley was set free on the OU kickoff the same way…………………….and to those who would say “if Giddeon makes the interception we would have won”, BS, he didn’t. End of story……using same logic if we had scored every time we had the ball against every team we played we would be #1……..udder BS, It did not happen so why discuss it.

by blackbeard on Nov 25, 2008 4:27 PM CST reply actions

Yea

the block in the back in the OU/Tx game was atrocious.

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by Jon Woods on Nov 25, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions

drops...

If Gideon doesn’t drop the ball, then Texas wins, but if Crabtree doesn’t drop the ball in the first half (the fumble) then Texas never even has a lead and all this nonsense of “Tech stealing a victory in the last second” never happens. Funny how a ball hitting the ground can do that.

by HeeroTX on Nov 26, 2008 12:46 AM CST up reply actions