Tech is top 10 in BCS Grad Rates

by Tech92 on Dec 17, 2008 7:53 PM CST Comment 11 comments

The latest installment of the NCAA's Graduation Success Rate football reports have been released for 2008.

The Graduation Success Rate measures how many players earned a four-year degree within a six-year window, accounting for both transfers into the footabll program as well as transfers out of the football program.

2008 NCAA Graduation Success Rate for BCS Football Programs

1. Notre Dame 94%
2. Stanford 93
T3. BC 92
T3. Duke 92
T3. Northwestern 92
6. Vanderbilt 91
7. Wake Forest 83
8. Texas Tech 79
T9. Baylor 78
T9. Nebraska 78
T9. UNC 78
T9. Penn State 78
T13. UConn 77
T13. Indiana 77
T15. Colorado 75
T15. Iowa 75
T15. Syracuse 75
T15. Virginia Tech 75
19. Cincinnati 73
T20. Illinois 70
T20. Michigan 70
T20. Miami 70
T20. Rutgers 70
24. Florida State 69
T25. Clemson 68
T25. Florida 68
T25. Maryland 68
T25. Wash State 68
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T29. Kansas State 67
T29. Pitt 67
31. Virginia 66
T32. South Carolina 65
T32. Washington 65
T34. Oregon State 64
T34. Ole Miss 63
T34. Miss State 63
T34. Purdue 63
T34. West Virginia 63
T34. Wisconsin 63
T40. Okla State 62
T40. UCLA 62
42. Arizona State 60
T43. N.C. State 59
T43. Missouri 59
45. Louisville 58
46. Auburn 57
T47. Kentucky 56
T47. Texas A&M 56
T47. South Florida 56
T50. Alabama 55
T50. Iowa State 55
T52. LSU 54
T52. Tennessee 54
T52. USC 54
T55. Cal 53
T55. Oregon 53
T55. Kansas 53
58. Ohio State 52
T58. Arkansas 52
T60. Minnesota 51
T60. Michigan State 51
62. Texas 50
T63. Georgia 48
T63. Georgia Tech 48
65. Oklahoma 46
66. Arizona 41

So it looks like we can put the silly academic arguments to bed with regards to Tech v. AM v. UT. Tech clearly educates it's players much better than do the "big boys."

Sadly, it looks like half of all Texas players leave school without a completed education, very little to no job training, and almost no shot at the NFL.

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Of the schools worth a dang we're #1

BC not ranked in AP top 25. Northwestern is the only one above us even ranked. All schools ahead of us are exremely competitive private schools, some tiny. We are a large state u and I am very, very proud.

by Plano Jeff on Dec 17, 2008 8:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I may be wrong, but I believe Tech is the top ranked public school. Is Wake or Stanford public?

by Tech92 on Dec 17, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

1. The University of Notre Dame du Lac (or simply Notre Dame) is a private Roman Catholic research university located in Notre Dame, Indiana.

2. Leland Stanford Junior University, commonly known as Stanford University is a private research university located in Stanford, California.

3. Boston College (BC) is a private university located in the village of Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts.

4. Duke University is a private research university located in Durham, North Carolina.

5. Northwestern University is a non-sectarian private research university located in Evanston, Illinois.

6. Vanderbilt University is a private, nonsectarian, coeducational research university in Nashville, Tennessee.

7. Wake Forest University is a private liberal arts university in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

8. Texas Tech University is a public, coeducational, research university in Lubbock, Texas.

Source: wiki

Wes Welker can't be stopped.

by 10forTech on Dec 17, 2008 10:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Well there you go...top ranked public school.

Tech needs to blare this from every media loudspeaker they have. This is a fantastic accomplishment, but I bet we hear nary a peep from the national media about this.

by Tech92 on Dec 18, 2008 7:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Rec'ed

DoubleTNation Fans need to “Rec” this!

NCAA Football Grad. Rate: Texas Tech 79%, Baylor 78%, Oklahoma State 62%, Texas A&M 56%, Texas 50%, OU 46%

by Tech Pirate on Dec 18, 2008 8:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

There were some different numbers in the study by UCF that Seth linked to in the last couple of days that made UT and OU look even worse – like down into the sub-40% rates for black players at UT. Different methodologies – different numbers.

Did anyone else ever read Meat On The Hoof? I read it about 40+ years ago. It was a scathing indictment of the football program at UT in the DK Royal era. (My dad gave it to me. He was an OU grad from the Bud Wilkinson era.) It’s been a long time, but the general theme was that if you weren’t a first or second string player, you were thrown under the bus and left for dead. If you were given a scholarship but didn’t meet expectations on the field, they would try everything to take the scholarship away so a better player could get it. Institutionalized attitudes are hard to break, apparently.

by TT_ on Dec 18, 2008 10:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

the reason that this isn't well published is because

UT and OU will argue that it is because they have good enough players that leave early for the draft rather than finish out their education. But still, they gap shouldn’t be that high. Also they argue that TTU is “Texas tech high school” or weak academics and that they could get a degree at tech with their eyes closed, even though they only have a GED and t shirt themselves.

by johnlaf13 on Dec 19, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

iirc

the NCAA stats follow a player for 5 years after leaving school to allow credit for players who go to the NFL and graduate after a few semesters in the off seasons. If they never graduate, does that mean they’re smart guys who are so rich it doesn’t matter? Or are they still big dumb guys who have to have someone else take care of their business and personal matters for the rest of their lives? Just a wild (“BOOMER!”) guess, but I’m going out on a (“BOOMER!”) limb to say Billy Sims is (“BOOMER!”) in that second category (“BOOMER!”). I don’t see the NFL as an excuse.

And LMAO about the ‘high school’ argument we’ve all heard. I guarantee you the heavy science/engineering focus at Tech makes the liberal arts focus at UT seem like high school. That’s just more of the aggie mentality that UT has adopted as their own.

by TT_ on Dec 19, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ok..

but doesn’t amount to a hill of beans when considering a Big 12 tie breaker.

I agree, they are student athletes.. but if you go preaching this, you’re no better then the Aggies that try to use the “who cares about football, we are smarter then you” come back.

by bleedredandblack on Dec 19, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Who is worried about this being a tie breaker? It’s just a compliment to the program for recruiting and educating young men who have enough between the ears to actually earn a degree. I’m not advocating using this for anything more than what it is…a positive story about our program and how we complete the educational and athletic circle of college athletes better than most other public schools in the country.

by Tech92 on Dec 19, 2008 2:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs