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What have we learned - the defense

First, I want to acknowledge that statistics are just numbers unless there is something meaningful to compare them to.  Nonetheless, I like trying to make sense of them.  Second, I will admit a bias towards normalized stats - that is statistics that allow comparison of apples to apples such as yards per attempt versus just total yards, etc.  Third, though I will present some numbers below, I won't discuss them because I think they are meaningless and really just something for commentators to use to fill time on the air.

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I took a look at the first 4 opponents that Tech played and compared the box score of Tech games versus other Big XII teams to see how Tech compared against common opponents.  I focused on the defense because the performance of the Tech offense was very inconsistent.  If I hve time, I'll address the questions that I have regarding the offense in a separate post. 

So what can we glean from these games regarding the defense?  Nobody else in the Big XII plays SMU or U Mass, so I have nothing to compare those games to.  EWU played Colorado.  Here's how Tech Stacked up.

Stat

CU

TT

Adv.

Points Allowed

24

24

Push

Yds/Att Allowed

5.9

5.4

Slight Tech

Yds/Carry Allowed

2.1

1.0

Tech

Yds/Rec Allowed

9.5

9.0

Slight Tech

Turn Overs

3

3

Push

1st Downs Allowed

18

24

CU

3rd Conv. Allowed

11-19

3-15

Tech

Plays/Possession

5.3

5.4

Push

# Plays

74

87

CU

Total Yds Allowed

350

364

Push

Yds/Play Allowed

4.7

4.2

Tech

One important difference relating I think less to the defense and more to the offense is the number of plays run by EWU.  Versus CU, EWU only ran 74 plays, while they ran 87 versus Tech with 2 more possessions.  Why is that a big deal?  It gives them more opportunities to score.  It also shows why normalizing the statistics based on the number of plays is important.  The Tech offense struggled a little and relied on a couple of big plays which took little time off the clock.  Without the 2 extra chances, I think that the points allowed by TT would have been lower.  The total yards would have also been a little more reflective of the quality of play by the Tech D. 

All of this to say that the most important things besides score are plays per possession and yds per play.  Total yards, 1st downs, 3rd down conversions are at best very indirect measures of the defensive performance.  I can give you a number of scenarios where a team puts up over 400 yards in offense and never crosses the 50 yard line.  Total yards is also a weak statistic because it is related to the number of plays.  And while situationally 3rd down conversion rate might be interesting, how many times does a series make it to 3rd down?  The normalized statistics are much more meaningful (yds/play, plays/possession, yds/rec). But I digress. 

The Tech D was fairly stingy in yards per play, forced some 3 and outs, and cut some drives short with interceptions.  Conclusion: When you look at the normalized stats, the Tech D is significantly better than CU.  Looking only at yards, you wouldn't reach the same conclusion.

Nevada played Missouri.  (I was very interested in this one):

Stat

Mizzou

TT

Adv.

Points Allowed

17

19

Push

Yds/Att Allowed

4.5

7.5

Mizzou

Yds/Carry Allowed

4.1

4.8

Mizzou

Yds/Rec Allowed

8.6

11.0

Mizzou

Turn Overs

1

2

Tech

1st Downs Allowed

22

28

Mizzou

3rd Conv. Allowed

7-19

3-16

Tech

Plays/Possession

6.5

6.2

Tech

# Plays

85

87

Mizzou

Total Yds Allowed

362

488

Mizzou

Yds/Play Allowed

4.3

5.6

Mizzou

Given how close the points allowed were, I was surprised by how much Mizzou dominated almost every other category.  The difference came in that Tech only allowed FGs, whereas Mizzou gave up a couple of TDs.  Nevada had one more possession in their Tech game than in their Mizzou game.  Playing Tech in Reno may have helped the Wolf Pack, but I think it's pretty clear how Tech's D compares to Missouri's.  If Tech does make it to the Big XII championship, we better hope that the offense figures out the cure for what Mizzou did to them last year and the turnover margin continues to be in Tech's favor.

Against Mizzou, Nevada found themselves in a 14-0 hole 3 minutes into the 1st quarter and seems to have felt the need to try and pass their way back in the game.  Mizzou not only held them to 8.6 yds/catch, but the completion rate was only 53% resulting in a paltry 4.5 yds/att.  Tech on the other hand allowed 11 yds/catch and a 69% completion rate. 

The yards/attempt and yards/reception also helps to make sense of the number of break-ups and interceptions that Tech has had compared to other teams in the Big XII.  Teams are going to throw a lot if they think they can pick up that kind of yardage.  The bend but don't break philosophy on defense essentially waits for the other offense to beat themselves by stalling out or making mistakes.  This is what we see in Nevada V. Tech with the 2 interceptions and all of the field goals from Nevada.  The flaw in this is that better teams make fewer mistakes and are not as likely to stall. 

I think that yards/play and plays/possession are very telling.  They indicate how long the other team is moving the ball and sustaining drives.  I also like yards per reception because it tells us how well the defense is covering and is not dependant on how good the QB is.  Tech should be embarrassed by how this statistic compares to Mizzou.  It also is an indication of why Mizzou was able to defend Tech so well in the past.  People have been screaming it in the posts for the past 4 weeks.  Now here's the data to back it up.  Our secondary needs to play tighter.

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Secondary needs to play tighter

I agree with that. When you have our boys sitting 15 yards off the line and wait for the receiver to get to them before they run with them makes no sense. I would rather have our guys bump and jam then run with them than giving up 15 free yards which all the teams have used against us.

You also know its messed up when our CBs are deeper than the Safeties in defending the pass. So right now we need more aggressive CBs to litterally stop giving up 10 yards as freebees on out passes or up the outside. That is the reality of why we are seeing out secondary getting burned more this year than last. Last year they played more up on the line.

Yea they got burned a couple of times. But we got burned already this year sitting 15 yards of the ball too. I think its always better to smack the receiver hard then run with them because it make the receiver mess up timing and does at times make the receiver take himself out of the play by running out of bounds to get around a hard jamming CB.

I just do not see a bad side right now to playing up close and tight unless McNeil is hiding his real defense until a game we need it for.

by Pablo M on Sep 27, 2008 6:05 AM CDT   0 recs

Tech Defense

This defense is definately improving with each game. Remember, McNeil has started including his own schemes this year and as the players gain a better understanding of what the other players can do and what their tendencies are, then each person starts playing better as a teammate rather than as an individual. As has been seen the last couple of games, they have really begun forming a team type atmosphere because they know exactly what to expect from their teammates. This cohesiveness is growing stronger and, with an extra week to prepare, should come to fruition starting in Manhatten, Kansas next week. Couple that with the emerging confidence of the offense and all the numbers you have listed will only improve because of the coming together of this team. Each year is a new beginning, some forging on more quickly than others. Tech, as a team, is showing the signs of one coming together completely. By the time they play Texas they will be hitting on all cylinders. That is why this could be the most special one in the history of Tech athletics. With USC’s loss, teams like Tech have gained a more solid foothold on being able to reach the BCS championship game. This is looking more and more to me like the year of the TEXAS TECH RED RAIDERS! GUNS UP!

TTpilk

by TTpilk645 on Sep 27, 2008 9:26 AM CDT   0 recs

I always love numbers

 like these.

(Aside: I don’t know that there’s any way to account that TT played Nevada on the road, while Mizzou played at home).

The DTN community should try and figure out what is the best measure of a teams’ success, I’ve always thought that yards/attempt for a QB and yards/play are great metrics for determining the value of a offense or defense, and I know that SMQ has studied this before. I’ve always had a tough time determining TO’s as they aren’t necessarily a statistic that shows up every week, however, 9 times out of 10, the team that wins the TO battle wins the game. I’ve just never thought that TO’s project over the course of a season because they are so depending on the opponent making a mistake.

Really good stuff.

Go Raiders . . .

by Seth C on Sep 28, 2008 9:06 AM CDT   0 recs

Home field advantage

The only thing I’ve ever seen home field advantage used for is to figure scoring advantage, not other statistics. But I believe that they have to be related.

I 100% agree with you regarding turnovers. That was part of the point I was trying to make regarding the Tech D so far this year. They have been successful in stopping several drives by getting interceptions. But overall, I think the pass defense is pretty soft. Kansas, Texas, and OU will exploit that and are going to be much less likely to throw the INT than SMU. As others have said, I hope that this isn’t McNeil’s scheme for the rest of the season. I think that Tech has been practicing more blitzes and press coverage. I just hope they don’t wait until one of these bigger games to try them in a game situation.

by NM99 on Sep 28, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

C’mon. We got half of our 10 Ints in one game against a kid who was playing for Katy HS last year.

This defense can be average if they tighten up the pass defense. But our corners are terrible.

by Tech92 on Sep 29, 2008 8:27 PM CDT   0 recs

Some stats look good...

…but are really bad. Number of tackles, for example. If a corner is logging a bunch of tackles, that means they are throwing to his side and he is not preventing the catch. Same with tackles by the safety – it means that either the line, LB and/or corner missed his man.

by NM99 on Sep 29, 2008 9:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Benefit of the doubt

One thing that I noticed last night is that the tech D has logged exactly 0 QB hurries. That does not bode well for your pass defense and probably contributes to the DBs looking bad. It is a team effort, after all.

It also seems odd to me that we have the #1 passing offense and the #98 passing defense. These guys practice against each other. How does the offense stay that sharp practicing against a D that poor? I’m still trying to make sense of it all, but I have this nasty feeling in the pit of my stomach that we are over-rated and waiting to be exposed. Hopefully I’m just paranoid.

Time to quit analyzing and enjoy the ride.

by NM99 on Sep 30, 2008 9:01 AM CDT   0 recs

Yeah, you can twist the numbers to fit whatever agenda you would like. But at the end of the day, the win is all that matters. So far, they’ve delivered. I think we’ve all bought into the hype to some degree and that makes us a little leery of some of the sketchy performances against VERY weak opposition. I don’t care how good a I-AA team is, they are I-AA. The very, very best of that division is no better than the bottom third of D-I, so I don’t buy the argument that these were solid teams we played.

Had we actually steamrolled through non-conference I’d feel better. But the fact that we could easily have lost to Nevada and that we didn’t look all that impressive against anyone but SMU and UMass makes me a little nervous (an SMU v. UMass game might actually be fun to watch). Truth be told, I would bet it makes Leach and the players a little nervous too. Anyone can beat anyone else in this conference so the boys need to bring the A game from here on out. We’ll see how our pass defense stacks up against KState, who has arguably the most NFL-ready QB in the conference (Harrell, Daniel and McCoy are all fantastic college QBs, but probably don’t have much of a future in the NFL). They are the 12th best passing offense in the nation, and Freeman is the 8th highest rated passer in the nation. So this game will be a HUGE test for our pass defense.

by Tech92 on Sep 30, 2008 10:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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