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IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK...............

Held off from commenting last week.....but enough is enough.  This football team, who has never won anything, has taken ALL their publicity and filled their helium filled heads with it.

 

They have no enthusiasm nor enough balls to stuff inferior teams in the toilet.  See Mizzou, OU and Texas for an explanation on stuffing crappy teams.  We are just content to go along as little ole poor Texas Tech.  The chemistry sucks and it looks like all the offensive players want to see who can get in the spotlight first and foremost.

I am sick and tired of hearing how great our defense played while giving up 500 yards.  They suck when compared to the big boys! I'm tired of Leach being quirky and labeled as a mad professor.  He coached like crap and plain stupid.  Quit looking like Vince Gill with tight underwear and pull your head outta your ass.

Unless they pick it up the big boys will pressure the hell out of Harrell, who will cough it up, and our defensive line will look like swiss cheese as Texas and Oklahoma will run our ass of the field when they are not passing through out deer in the headlights secondary.

Enough of the feel good off season crap.  If you are the 12th best team in the nation you are only going to be an underdog once or twice this season.  Kick somebody's ass and quit playing like an overrated bunch of babies.  Am also sick and tired of the apologetic "well, at least we are 2-0".  Big damn deal.  YOU SHOULD BE 2-0.

Finally, it was a team effort Saturday night as even Brian Jensen and John Harris put on the worst broadcast I have ever heard.  Stumbling over words........making no sense calls on plays.....not understanding what was happening on the field.....and trying to pass humor off to cover up their lack or preparation or maybe they were just as bored with the game as the team appeared to be.  Come on you guys, you gotta be better than that.  I could hardly keep up with the action due to your poor broadcast. Where have you gone Jack Dale and Bob Nash!

Lets not accept a mediocre team!  If you want to run with the big dogs.......get your asses off the porch!

 

 

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re: walks like a duck

I definitely do not disagree with your point on taking care of business. I was in Reno for game. Harrell + Leach + really bad officiating were the reasons to the close game. The Nevada offensive stats were crazy because of Harrell’s inability to get a rythym rest our Defense, Leach’s inability to set up passing plays across the middle as opposed to the fade routes which Harrell seemed lost, Leach’s inability to punt, Leach’s inability to use the running game when the passing game is off, and the officials allowing Nevada’s O-Line to tackle and hold on to the Tech defenders most plays. I didn’t see the same treatment for Tech other than reversing a few calls that were poor in the first place which did nothing but kill any momentum we should have been given in the first place. I’ll worry if the next two games aren’t complete blow outs, unable to find a solution to the field goal issues, and Reed/Vasquez don’t heal by big XII play. They need to accept that practice is over and to dominate both sides of the ball.

by ashton99 on Sep 8, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

THERES NO WHAAAAAAAAAAA IN FOOTBALL

Was fortunate enough over the years to cover Coaches Sloan, Dykes, Royal, Stallings and the best of the best, Coach Landry. Never did one of these guys ever blame an official for a bad game or a close game. Even when Coach Landry could have whined about the worst call in Super Bowl history he refused to take that road. I think there is a lesson for all of us there. Winners win…….losers gripe about how bad the officiating was.

by eddyc555 on Sep 8, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, it's a duck.

I read a lot of blogs on Tech and the Big XII in general and almost never write in, but Eddyc555 nailed it. Why are we being so soft on these guys? There are only so many silver linings. 95th ranked defense and we haven’t played anyone worth a damn! We have way too much talent to be playing this way…which will only net us wins over Baylor and aggy at this rate. UT and OU will absolutely destroy us if we don’t improve. We have to get past Kansas on the road before we can evern begin to talk about those games later in the year. I think we can do it, but it has to start with a complete ass-stomping of SMU. This is the year…don’t let it slip away.

by Techsan71 on Sep 8, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

UT UTEP

FIRST DOWNS………………. 26 23
Rushing………………… 8 6
Passing………………… 13 15
Penalty………………… 5 2
NET YARDS RUSHING…………. 122 145
Rushing Attempts………… 31 31
Average Per Rush………… 3.9 4.7
Rushing Touchdowns………. 1 0
Yards Gained Rushing…….. 134 180
Yards Lost Rushing………. 12 35
NET YARDS PASSING…………. 282 267
Completions-Attempts-Int…. 20-29-1 25-46-0
Average Per Attempt……… 9.7 5.8
Average Per Completion…… 14.1 10.7
Passing Touchdowns………. 4 1
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS……….. 404 412
Total offense plays……… 60 77
Average Gain Per Play……. 6.7 5.4

by kayakyakr on Sep 8, 2008 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

CHECK YOUR HISTORY!

Don’t just pull out one game……..Hate to break it to you but those boys from TU know how to kick ass and bury an inferior opponent over the years. If you don’t believe it….check the old red raider behinds over the years. OU, TU, USC….yeah, those kind of teams that will slap you silly and ask you if you want seconds. Thats the kind of program Tech aspires to become…..and if you are the 12th ranked team in the nation…..you should do it….week in….week out……year in and year out. Or be a one year wonder.

by eddyc555 on Sep 8, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I AGREE 100%

ENOUGH EXCUSES! I was at the game in Reno also, and the offense was awful. The defense allowed Nevada to drive the field at will and only came up with stops in the red zone. We are lucky that they missed the field goals. The big plays were poorly thrown balls, Crabtree saved Harrell by making adjustments. One of the worst games I have seen Harrell play. I like Leach but this was one of the worst attempts at coaching I have ever seen. He always blames the team for having inflated egos but I think maybe he is the one with the ego problem. Starting the game with a fourth down attempt on our own end of the field was completely embarrassing. Nevada was better than I expected but not even comparable with OU or Texas. Here we go 8 wins and a bowl game. With that said, we have the talent but talent doesn’t win games. Rice hung 60 on SMU if we can’t top that I say it’s just another year of the same. I hope they get it together this week.

by Texas Techsan on Sep 8, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I forgot

I was impressed with the number of Tech fans that made the trip, It was a small stadium with a lot of red. The fans are ready we just need the team to show up. GO TECH.

by Texas Techsan on Sep 8, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tech's inability to show up...

I think that while your points are true, don’t forget that this team has the potential to be THE BEST TEAM IN THE NATION if they show up and give 100%. When everything is clicking, they can pile up 600+ yards of offense and the defense can dominate as well. Don’t put us in the Alamo Bowl/Insight Bowl, Cotton Bowl just yet.

by techfan5730 on Sep 8, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Based on what...

do you think “the defense can dominate as well”? Because we held Iowa State to a couple points last year?

I worry that we’ve all built an origami stud out of our paper defense. We didn’t do anything last year, the entire premise of this year’s defense being great was the 9 someodd returning starters and our (probably irrational) belief that Ruffin McNeil is dramatically different than Lyle. He hasn’t looked like it so far and, per a lot of people, didn’t look nearly as great as we were all claiming last year.

What was even more troubling from Nevada was the fact that Graham had obviously the worst game of his career. One wonders why the worst game of a player’s career happens in his senior year… against Nevada’s vaunted defense? Why is Graham Harrell better in his third start against a very good TCU defense than he is in his 26th start against a Nevada team that was bowl ineligible last year and was 80th in total defense?

Why does what I’ve been calling the best offense over the past 8 years in the entire NCAA get outgained by Nevada?

Unfortunately these are the kinds of questions that will be answered only in tragedy, because if we play like we have the last two weeks in conference play, we won’t finish the season in the top 25. We won’t break .500 in conference play. We certainly won’t be given an opportunity to compete for a Big-12 Championship or a BCS game. And most consequentially, voters nationally will think twice in the future before they make the mistake of betting on Texas Tech again. 2008 is an opportunity we might not soon get again, and if we shit the bed on this one, we all better stop holding our breath.

I’m not going through three weeks of looking absolutely ridiculous with this barely-mustache just to have to shave it off in shame before it reaches Burt Reynolds status.

Why are we congratulating ourselves on their kicker being horrible and a once, maybe twice a season 1 yard line fumble?

There’s something to be said for winning the game despite getting outplayed on both sides of the ball — and I agree generally with the sentiment that this is the type of game that we have historically lost — but if we’re the least bit optimistic about sneaking by Nevada then you might as well not watch us play at home against Texas, on the road against Kansas. I mean FORGET ABOUT Norman, Oklahoma. Unless I see some fairly miraculous (water to wine type) shift in the way this team plays, I’ve already pegged that as a loss.

What I took from the Nevada game was that the one part of our team that I’ve never worried about actually worried me and the defense that was supposed to prove it had changed did the exact opposite. This was Tech’s defense, as it has been for the past X years.

The sky isn’t falling but that doesn’t mean I’m not keeping my eye on it.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Sep 8, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

And...

Although it is AWFULLY presumptious to even THINK about BCS possibility right now, since there are no roads to that end outside of Oklahoma, our only chance is to sneak into one as the 2nd best team in the Big 12 that never got to contend in a championship. Does anyone really think we haven’t already burned that bridge? Presuming we do go 11-1 (HAH!) we sure have made the case for NOT being included in a BCS game with two fairly inauspicious wins.

I’m pleased we are 2-0. I’m worried that we will soon collapse.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Sep 8, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

how quickly things change

Come on guys yall are better then this. Tech is going to come out next week against SMU and blow them out and Harrell will have 500+ yards and I will read a lot of the same people who wrote we are screwed say that booked their flight to the national championship. Can we please just wait till we actually lose a game to start throwing in the towel? Im not saying we played well on Saturday but this is the year where I dont care if Harrell throws for 200 yards a game as long as he leads Tech to victory. My advice to all the anxious Tech fans is to just keep looking at the W-L record and nothing else.

"Once in awhile, a pirate can beat a soldier"

by crabtreeforheisman on Sep 9, 2008 7:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Seriously...

You’d think you were reading a UT or A&M board.

by NM99 on Sep 9, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's all fine

I can wait to throw in the towel until we lose a game (which I won’t do, even then) but that doesn’t mean I’m going to view a 40 someodd completion % without reservation.

IF we come out and light up SMU I’ll be very pleased and will hope that indicates we’re done winning unconvincingly for a while. I can only assure you, though, that Harrel will NOT have 500+ yards of offense if he doesn’t complete more than half his passes.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Sep 9, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

lordy, this is a meltdown that i didn’t expect from the group on this board after the nevada game.

by kayakyakr on Sep 9, 2008 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Expect greatness

I reflect on some of the great coaches, including Bob Knight, who prepared in practice so thoroughly that the games were almost on auto pilot. Many of the great programs, see USC and Pete Carroll, demand that their players become great in practice so that it really matters not who they face on gameday. Therefore, I hope the Tech team can take it upon themselves to prepare themselves to be the best. Therefore, the theory goes, they will take care of business be it against SMU or Big 12 Conference play. I don’t see the reaction of many on this post as meltdowns or throwing in the towel as it is demanding that this years team perform like a top 25 team week in and week out and not take the roller coaster of inconsistency that resides with pretenders.

by eddyc555 on Sep 9, 2008 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Wait for the loss

I know we have not played well completely but we are still 2-0. This is the best chance we have had since 1977 to be great but until we lose Tech has a chance to be be good. I know that seems obvious but it is really only about being 9-0 for Texas and 11-0 for Oklahoma nothing else really matters. Because if we are undefeated and going to the Big 12 Championship game will get a BCS bowl!!!!!
Wreck’em TECH

by techgolf44 on Sep 9, 2008 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Non-underdog role might be strange to Tech

This is the first season in a while that Tech has had such a huge target on its back going into the season. Every team they face, especially in non-BCS opponents, is out to prove they don’t belong. This is new territory Tech is treading on, so I’m anxious to see how they respond with the next few games. They need to start blowing teams out like the Big Boy Teams do or we are in for a world of pain and anguish once Big 12 play starts.

by PhillyRedRaider on Sep 9, 2008 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

I have seen all of this so many times.....

I graduated from Tech in ’95 so I have seen the good(wins against the big boys), the bad( loss against TCU) and the ugly (losses to North Texas and Smu)

As much as I would love to see it, I just do not know if we will ever reach that elite status and believe me I want it more than anybody!

What we are seeing is the same ole Tech that we have seen since Mike Leach has been here. While that is certainly an improvement over the beloved Dykes, I just don’t see us giving over “the hump” to reach BCS level.
 It pains me grealty to say that and even though I haven’t been able to watch the first 2 games since they weren’t televised BCS teams are suppose to EASILY handle division II schools unless you did belong ranked that highly to begin with…see Michigan last year.

I am sure I am panicking and have a bad attitude since we are 2-0 but seriously the rather non-resounding wins against( I dont care what you say) CRAPPY teams doesn’t bode well for any National Championships or Big XII titles this year.

by WALKERMAN on Sep 9, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

The point of contention is this:

Implying that this team is the “same old Tech” says that they are as good as they are going to get and will not improve as we go further into the season. I haven’t seen any posts that imply that the performance to date is good enough to meet the hopes and expectations everyone had 3 weeks ago.

What people have said is that the pieces are there that haven’t been there in years past. No one wants to stagnate where we are. But we aren’t calling for Leach & Co. to walk the plank yet, either (look where that got A&M when they fired R.C.). At this point there isn’t enough data to predict how the rest of the season will turn out. We’ve all talked ad nauseam about what needs to improve. I believe they can. Now we all wait and see what happens.

by NM99 on Sep 9, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

My main worry

isn’t that this is the same old Tech but that it isn’t. The last time we passed for fewer than 300 yards was against Oklahoma in 2006. And we did that with a first year starter quarterback against what finished as the 17th ranked team in the nation (16th ranked defense) without the best receiver in the country.

I’m not even worried about stagnation. I can’t possibly think this Texas Tech team will remain as bad, offensively, as it was against Nevada. I’m just baffled by how we got so bad all of a sudden. And if it CAN happen against Nevada, why can’t it happen against UT, Kansas, OU, A&M, OSU, etc. If it DOES happen against one of those teams, we are in trouble.

I think you’re right that it’s nuts to think we’ll play as bad as we did against Nevada for the rest of the season. But, 1) Do you think we burned our worst game of the season against Nevada, 2) Why?

I hope we actually did burn our worst game of the season against the bottom half of our schedule. I think that hope is probably irrational. That is why I am concerned.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Sep 9, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve never bought into the theory that a team has X number of bad games to get out of their system. Talented teams that are focused don’t seem to have that problem.

I do buy into the idea that a team has to peak at the right time and that the coach’s job is to 1) get them there and 2) keep them there. I don’t think Tech has achieved #1 yet. The point of some of my other posts was that I think Tech will get there in time for conference play and when they do, watch out. They are going to be really good. I could be wrong. The chemistry just might not be there for the team to gel. But given that this team has so much positive history together, I believe that it will happen.

As for keeping them there, I think this has been a big part of Tech bad loss problem in the past. They peaked in fall camp and blew away a bunch of patsy opponents early in the year, and then they lost focus. They become over-confident, just going through the motions in practice, and the next thing you know they lose to Ok St. Focus is probably the hardest thing for a college level team. There are a lot of things that can become distractions from class to girls to family and for the most part, 18 -22 year olds don’t have the maturity to tune that stuff out.

If this team can start to gel over the next 2 games and peak as they go into conference play, maintaining the focus will be easy. They know they have a long conference schedule ahead of them. LIke everyone else, though, I just want them to reach that peak before it’s too late.

by NM99 on Sep 10, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Re: peaking

I suppose that nay-sayers could argue that a good team is prepared all season long and that Tech is obviously not as good as advertised because of the struggles they have had thus far. The ideal scenario is a team that peaks early and holds the edge through the entire season. Though this is ideal, I think that even for the most elite teams, this is unrealistic. From a coaching perspective I think it might actually be better to peak slightly later as the focus comes from working to improve on the obvious rather than to have to maintain focus and knit-pick and manufacture things to improve on. The top teams who lose their edge (and maybe a game) mid-season because they are coasting struggle more to regain focus than teams who are challenged and have to continue to improve in order to continue to win.

by NM99 on Sep 10, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve never bought into the theory that a team has X number of bad games to get out of their system. Talented teams that are focused don’t seem to have that problem.

This is precisely why I’m worried about Texas Tech right now.

I do hope you’re right the team peaks in conference play. I really, really, really hope we start looking the part this weekend against SMU.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Sep 10, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah.................

eddyc555 u just a PINK raider!!!!! Shame on u….throwin them thar poor Tech yung un’s unda da bus like dat, I’m a wonderin howse u ever even gots radidio ception whilst lookin fer lost golf balls out on that thar fancee golf course. And az I rekemember, Mr. Kent (telling John Denver he got no chance in the music bidness) Hance wuz always mo betta at gettin pointed than lected..even switchin politico partees didn’t seem to help him win no lections

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes

by cityman on Sep 9, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey Cityman.....

When you use ebonics in your post it makes people think that you are not intelligent and discount any in all points you make on your post.

Quit butchering the English language!

by WALKERMAN on Sep 10, 2008 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

STRIPES

Hey Walkerman…..As Sgt. Hulka so appatly phrased in STRIPES….“lighten up Francis” Maybe if you pulled your head out you’d recognize that that wasn’t ebonics at all…it was hillbilly. Also, what points did I make?????? Sorry you can’t recognize sarcasm. If you must have a “man the torpedos” attitude for a post you don’t understand I recommend that you either A) ignore it or B) go back to College Station and rattle your sword with the rest of your aggie corps brethren.

I don’t have to think about your intelligence.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes

by cityman on Sep 10, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am a Texas Tech Alum you moron.....

I would ignore it but I don’t want fans from other schools to come here and read your post and think that the rest of us are idiots like yourself.

by WALKERMAN on Sep 10, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey Walkerman

Why weese gots the same ed u makashun!!!!

Last I heer, them bohunks in aggeeland and aw stin thinks we be idgits anyhoo……………no matta how ya tawk, leest that whut I heer……..

Go Tech!!!!

Class of 82

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes

by cityman on Sep 10, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please

no name calling, it’s the only rule I have – “Don’t Be Mean”. Not pointing fingers, we’re all on the same team here.

Thanks in advance.

Go Raiders . . .

by Seth C on Sep 10, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Fire In the Belly

“Walkerman” and “CityMan” now thats the kind of fire in the belly we are looking for! If we could get some of that into the football team, we could kick some collective butt! CityMan, I will see you at Pinkies soon!

by eddyc555 on Sep 10, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Not soon enough old man!!! Not soon enough…………..

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes

by cityman on Sep 10, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I apologize for the name calling....

I was not trying to be insulting but I was insulted by his insinuation that I was an Aggie fan which I consider the ultimate insult! LOL Plus, I hate when people try to post in all slang like ebonics or hillbilly. For one, its difficult to follow any points made on the post and it just makes you look uneducated.

Anyway, I am fired up about Tech’s program and I so desperately want them to get over the “hump.”

Wreck’em Tech!

Class of ’95

by WALKERMAN on Sep 10, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Leach issues

It’s not a state secret that I am not a big Leach fan outside of the system he brought to Tech. I think he’s a really good offensive coordinator, but as I said last week, he doesn’t have the intangibles that make for a great head coach. His in-game adjustments are non-existent and I really think that’s his ego making that call. He’s CONVINCED that no matter what play he calls it will work, even when either his players or the opposing defense have clearly proven otherwise on that particular Saturday.

His penchant for going for it on 4th down inside our 40 yard line with almost nothing on the line (ie. last two minutes of a game and losing) is absurd and probably make him the butt of a few jokes at coaches conventions.

He also fails miserably at keeping this team focused and disciplined. Our lack of fire, the ridiculous volume of penalties, players who think they’re REALLY AWESOME and ARE NFL BOUND and the other guy will ROLL OVER WHEN I WALK OUT OF THE TUNNEL- when they’re just good to average in most cases – those are all things that start at the top and work their way onto the field.

He has the motivating instinct of a garden gnome and even Graham Harrell and Crabtree were quoted last year as saying they tune him out when he tries to get fired up or pulls a throw-the-players-under-the-bus-after-a-bad-game stunt. WTF??? His own players are calling him out on this.

Okay, enough complaining about ML. I’m on record, so I’ll leave that alone.

All that to say, however, that I see this team going 8-4, down from 9-3 in my pre-season estimation. The performances the first two games would have resulted in losses against OSU and KSU. We WILL lose a couple of winnable games, along with losses to a super stout OU and what looks to be a realy good UT this year due to Leach not adjusting (such as pulling the QB for a series when he clearly can’t hit water if he falls from a boat, or punting, or having a special teams capable of being special), our new supercharged defense imploding and breaking (which it will…our players just aren’t that good), and a kicker who thinks drilling a guy in the face is as good as clearing the line.

That’s not being fatalistic, that’s just seeing the writing on the wall about this team. Would love to see them go 11-1 or 10-2, but based on how they are playing (not on how good the offense TRADITIONALLY is; ask A&M how that tradition bit is working out these days) we will struggle. If they turn it around, great. But that’s the job of the head coach, and…

And I hate that I drank the Kool Aid this summer…

by Tech92 on Sep 10, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

One last thing

And for the other record, I would love to see us hire Art Briles away from Baylor in a few years. He’s every bit as creative, has proven he can get a lot out of a little, has a fire in his belly, and is someone the HS coaches can probably relate to a little better. I think he may have a few more football smarts, as well.

by Tech92 on Sep 10, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Way to start a Great discussion

minus the heated comments directed at each other, but that is not important!

What I see here in this situation is an opporutunity for our Raiders to go in one of two directions. It appears to me that they are at the crossroads of becoming a competitor in the big 12, regardless of how they played in games 1 and 2, I am speaking in an overall view. The Raiders of the past and the Raider fans of the past have always settled and been content with bowl eligible. I often heard in my time in Lubbock, “Well at least we are bowl eligible”. Now what I believe to be occuring is that the fans, the coach, and hopefully even the players are starting to expect a little more out of this team, that we have in the past support ed in its mediocrity!

This is the crossroad. Call it perseason hype or whatever you like. On paper and through what we have seen in the last few seasons we know that this team has talent and others around the country have picked up on that as well. So to me this entire thing is mental, it is the crossroad that asks do you want to stick with the old mentality or do you want to search for a new way of thinking, working, and producing to step into the next level of competition. It falls on our players, our coaches and in my mind most importantly the fans. If we as fans are content with bowel eligible then so will the team, if we create a stink after any loss, the coaches and team should feel that and learn to respond and respect the fans that support them and the level of effort and excution required. Look at the coaching changes every year in the SEC, they expect to win and every loss is an upset. I am not suggesting a coaching change I simply attmepting to point out the level of play the fans expect and require in elite programs. I say all that to say, I am glad some of you are pissed that The Raiders have not played well. It is a mentality amongst Raider fans that i have been searching for in the past several years. Get pissed! Be upset! Continue to question effort and expect more from our Raiders. If we as fans dont let the team know what we expect ,Raider Nation may choose the wrong path at the crossroad, and who knows when we will be at this crossroad again!

What I do know is if we choose the wrong path “bowl eligible” will be our greatest accomplishment year after year!

Thanks again Eddy for creating a great discussion!

by Techsan03 on Sep 13, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

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