Open Game Day Thread: Texas Tech vs. Ole Miss
by Seth C on Jan 2, 2009 10:00 AM CST
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I'm pumped
Let’s get it on one last time, oh blessed mystery, yelling, face-painted girl.
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Good Luck!
Hope you have a great game in the Cotton Bowl!
Best of luck today, gents
Oklahoma State, Nebraska and Missouri didn’t exactly do the conference proud by either A) losing or B) winning in ugly, maddening, frustrating fashion.
Last year’s Cotton Bowl remains one of my finest memories. Hopefully yall have some of your own in store today.
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by redraidersax on Jan 2, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
I'll be in and out
The laptop is acting funny and I can’t see the TV from the desktop.
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Put in sick leave
to be here today!
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
i have a terrible feeling tech will lose
i was at the awful cotton bowl against Alabama…
some differences, some similarities
I'm hoping that terrible feeling is just gas
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Would much rather have Summerall that Mussberger
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Got a Vizio 42" LCD 1080 pi for Christmas. I am really looking forward to watching my first TTU game in HD!
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:05 PM CST reply actions
Looks like a lot of our DTNers were able to make the game. I had access to tickets from different sources, but decided to pass on the in-person experience to enjoy it in the media room.
Me, too. I'm addicted to instant replay....
although I sometimes miss that big crowd experience. If there had been any good seats left by the time the general public got access, it might have been different. HD beats the hell out of the nose-bleed end zone view.
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
I was at the Cotton Bowl when we played USC. Realized the better seats were at home.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Don't know how it is now
but that used to be a seriously high crime area
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Over or under on this thing starting by 1:20?
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:14 PM CST reply actions
I agree
Need to get out to a quick start if possible
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
“Snead misses because he’s high.”
HA!
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions
Agree we need to get more pressure
That offense looks pretty good, but they didn’t try to run much. Trying to loosen us up?
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Those red shoes are pretty ugly
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Over or under on plays for a TD at 6
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:26 PM CST reply actions
Their speacial teams caoch was certainly excited!
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:29 PM CST reply actions
Wild Rebel gave Tech defense some problems in Bowl practice
But apparently they figured it out this week
What is with all this “Wild (insert term here)”?
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:33 PM CST reply actions
their D will get tired quickly
Never faced an offense like ours
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
If you had over on 6 plays, you won by one play!!!!!!
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:36 PM CST reply actions
Now we're cooking
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confidence
That’s the name of the Tech game. When they get a little, they are unstoppable. Ole Miss is going to learn a very tough lesson today. If we can get up by 14 – game over.
I’ve got a feeling GH is gonna get that 235 he needs to break 5,000. One more TD and he ties the all-time record, too
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break, not tie
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
WOOT!!!!
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I know it's too early to say
but this could get ugly
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While we are looking great, lets not forget the last two bowl games where we looked like crap at halftime and came back to win.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply actions
Oher’s adopted sister is SMOKING HOT
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As an older guy (me)
His mom is pretty hot too
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Fox is realy embarrassing themselves with the camera work today.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:47 PM CST reply actions
With camera work like this
the replay officials will have a tough day.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
Do you mean Brandon Williams (vs Oher)?
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
well they were on the field... got an INT... then had to do it all over again... soo...
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
Okay
time to take momentum back. We had them stopped and couldn’t execute. Need to tighten up tackling. The fake punt was massive.
Ole Miss has had the ball for 11 of the first 15…and Snead is sharp. 7-10 for 106. The drops can’t continue, either. This is not what we are used to…bad execution so far.
Our short passing game/ball control is missing in action so far
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
This is beginning to look like the Nebraska game
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 2:11 PM CST reply actions
Jamar just hasn't had a very good year
at least compared with 2007
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Our offense hasn't really played much yet (less than 4 minutes)
I am confident they will score points
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
That was real lucky for them
but it looks like pure skill on the scoreboard.
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Agreed, 92
we need a drive
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Other than clubbing harrell in the face and taking Britton’s legs out before the ball got there, that was a clean play.
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Fox uses him because he lives in Big D. They don’t have to fly someone in.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
There's the TD record
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lol no prob sax. speed typing isn't my deal either
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
I’m thinking we need to run the ball a bit more. They are selling out for the pass.
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Anyone else less than impressed with the D-line of Ole Miss? Or am I being a completely blind homer….
they have been in Harrell's face quite abit but maybe I'm sleeping bro.
by sleestak nation on Jan 2, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
They’ve been getting pretty consistent pressure on GH, but it’s sure not that smothering D we always hear about. I think if we forced them to pay more attention to the run, even that pressure would have to ease up. But then, what the hell do I know. I haven’t touched a football in 20 years.
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
One of the most realistic TV shows ever produced
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
soon to be out on the big screen
with will ferrell on the cast, how can you go wrong . . . (you don’t have to answer!)
by sleestak nation on Jan 2, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry
I was out making rolls.
I am about 4 hours west of St. Simon. Were you at the King and Prince?
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
need the offense to be productive but stay on the field for awhile, give d some rest
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
I am beginning to regret my earlier post about him being better than Mussberger.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Again,
I blame the lack of excitement and execution on Leach…he does this every big game (except UT this year).
Sleestak,
St. Simon is beautiful.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 2:48 PM CST reply actions
He actually started a number of games at CB this year
but was benched for the Cotton Bowl because of poor play
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
The D needs to try a new concept. It’s called wrapping up.
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Drinking (or sitting by Madden all those years) will do that to you.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 2:58 PM CST reply actions
Okay
I’m back off the ledge. Here’s the only good news…Tech’s offense, without a ton of pressure, has kept the game close. If, and only if, Harrell can pull his head out, we can roll. The defense just needs to tackle. They are in position almost every play, but they can’t make the tackle.
Ole Miss is exactly what an 8-4 team looks like. Good on some plays, ordinary on others. It’s time for Tech to start looking like an 11-1 team. Excellent on many plays, very good on most.
That's what I've been saying.
They are pinning their ears back on every play. Is Leach afraid of the SEC defense?
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Leach’s biggest flaw is his belief in his brain. He thinks he’s smarter than everyone else. He will try to force our offense to be successful – even when it’s obvious the guys are off. Just like today. He’s a terrible in-game admininstrator and tactician.
Fox is showing itself to be a second rate sports network. Either that or the are letting their interns train on today’s game.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 3:05 PM CST reply actions
The only thing we can hope for at this point is that this is a typical bowl game for us – coast for 2+ quarters before getting serious. But that is wishful thinking in the extreme.
I’m not giving up, but I’m getting myself mentally prepared for a huge letdown, a “Typical Tech”. Oh God, I can just hear the Horns and the SEC and just about the whole country.
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I’ll say this…if Leach can’t get this one turned around for a win, we should yank that extension right off the table ; )
Maybe he will go to OU when Stoops goes to Denver.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Good On Ya, Sir!
Nice to see a lifetime Raider!
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions
…and we will start the second half with only one starter returning in the secondary. Wall, McBath are out…Reed never got in the game. Very solid.
Last attempt at being hopeful
- McNeil makes some adjustments that makes them at least struggle a little on offense (although making tackles is hardly an adjustment).
- Leach makes their D play honest by running the ball occasionally, getting outside to stop that blitzing up the middle.
- The team wakes up like against Baylor. Remember we actually did better on O when Crabs left that game. That’s what killed Ok St the other day, sticking with starters that were hurt instead of someone else at 100%.
- Harrel has to wake up.
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Well,
At least our D should be rested.
by Red Raider in South GA on Jan 2, 2009 3:34 PM CST reply actions
Just to brighten everyone’s day…the phrase “typical Tech” is all over the other game day threads…we lose this game and we lose every little bit of respect we won this season. Period.
hard pill to swallow
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
lol
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ok now that miss is helpful! It was nice to see Leach out talking to the team trying to fire them up
they need to play with a much stronger sense of urgency
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
we haven't seen what adjustments the D might have made
but it won’t matter if the o keeps sucking
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thats brutal
i was confident they would get the first. but not like that
We've got a problem... Well i'll go brew some java, thats a start
Tech clearly
isn’t focused on the game. Coaching…preparation…focus…attention to detail. All miserable.
tech has to get a turnover or a defensive touchdown, something
to breath life back into this team
We've got a problem... Well i'll go brew some java, thats a start
oh come on now . . we could do what we do best . . get our arsses handed to us on a national stage
. . . hey wait a minute . . we are doing it right now!
by sleestak nation on Jan 2, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
well, shit
insight bowl… maybe… think its possible?
We've got a problem... Well i'll go brew some java, thats a start
not the way the defense can’t stop the run and the offense can’t seem to do anything right
by jeffinhouston on Jan 2, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Can somebody explain to me Leach's call on fourth down?
I’m still scratching my head. He should have punted anyway, and then the call was horrible.
That’s not even a gamble. That was a suicide call.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 2, 2009 3:56 PM CST reply actions
Really? Did he audible?
Perhaps the best explanation is that he thought it was shorter than four yards.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 2, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
ball game
if tech was going to come back, it was going to be on that play.
its over
We've got a problem... Well i'll go brew some java, thats a start
I think most tech players and coaches are so used to playing underdog
that when they are the going away favorites, they dont know how to handle themselves…
idk, just what im thinking
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He may get his personal records
but it’s gonna cost everything the team worked for all season
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This game, to me, was the true measure of our year. To lose, and to lose in this fashion, pretty much makes me think that the Nov 1 and Nov 8 games were smoke and mirrors…Maybe the reality is that the real Tech team was the one we saw vs. Nevada, Baylor, A&M, Nebraska…tough to tell.
tech92... you're being entirely too pessimistic... you're starting to make me depressed...
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
a tech TD here, would make it more interesting
although im sticking by my previous statement
We've got a problem... Well i'll go brew some java, thats a start
EDDy Britton has to play huge
to make up for the lose of crab
We've got a problem... Well i'll go brew some java, thats a start
no, but he is clearly a couple steps slow
We've got a problem... Well i'll go brew some java, thats a start
how does that guy just bust off a nine yrd rush
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So…is it too early to recap the season? Is it a failure? Is it successful? Is Leach worth more money? Are we REALLY at the doorstep of elite? Or was this an abberation 11-1?
oh my god
oh my god, thats incredible
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I was about to say
You guys still have hope if you hold for a FG. Well, then that happened. Hahaha.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 2, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions
here it goes
no safety
thats ball game.
fuck. the worst thing that could have happened
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Terrible playcall
Leach is really killing you guys. You don’t run playaction that deep in your endzone when you know all Ole Miss has done is gun for Harrell. You either run directly or pass quickly.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 2, 2009 4:27 PM CST reply actions
god, how much longer do i watch this game
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This game is totally on Leach…the guys looked perplexed on offense, scared on defense. No discernable gameplan to speak of…
They are absolutely wiping the turf with Tech. This is worse than the OU loss – these guys are not going to play for a national title.
ill watch them score, then im out.
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kiss my ass, you miserable aggie
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
It just goes to show
You can lose to anyone if you don’t bring your game. It is clear Ole Miss’ coaches were more prepared and had their players more motivated. Texas Tech might be better on paper, but they didn’t play like they were better today. Kind of unfortunate. Leach is going to have to take a lot of heat for this one, to be fair.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 2, 2009 4:41 PM CST reply actions
11-2
And completely humiliated in both losses. This was a paper lion. I’m pissed at myself for being sucked into this team more than I am the performance. The performance tonight could almost be predicted, couldn’t it? I mean, highly ranked (uh-oh), highly publicized (uh-oh), coach won’t sign extension (uh-oh), Harrell and Crabtree do the awards show circuit (uh-oh)….against a well coached (uh-oh) and fired up (uh-oh) team. Disaster in waiting becomes disaster in reality. Leach, kiss my ass.
did you see the stat where it said Mississippi averages 399 yds a game in total offense?
and they’ve over 500 yds for the game so far?
just goes to show that all of the media hype over Ruffin McNeill was just that, hype, and the defense is still average.
did you hear me - kiss my ass
you talk good smack when the game is over. Win 5 games yourself before you come over here
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by TT_ on Jan 2, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
with the play selection, it looks like we are trying to run time off the clock.
Maybe that is the best defense we have . . . .
as predictable as the day is long
tech had no reason to care about this game
they could have lost three more games and they would have been in the cotton bowl
I don't think y'all ever recovered from the Oklahoma game
the Baylor game showed signs of this, b/c y’all had to come back to win that one.
Having the media publically fellate you for the last month didn’t help the team.
I think the flaws of Leach really came through the last three games. OU was more prepared, Baylor executed better, and Ole Miss was both. I’m going to take a few days to ponder this season and if we are REALLY a legit 11-2 team. There is the obvious answer, yes. We won 11. But does that make us elite? No more so than it made Hawaii a legit 12-0 last year, is where my mind is as of right now.
an 11-2 record makes you an 11 win team
Are you elite? Hell no. “Elite” teams don’t lose in the manner y’all did to Oklahoma, or in the manner you lost to Mississippi today.
That isn’t an insult, b/c very, very few teams are actually “elite”; that is why you have to strive so hard to join that group.
Some of the game you can’t blame on Leach, imo. He wasn’t out there dropping passes, he wasn’t the one failing to execute. However, some things he does need to take responsibility for, like the QB sneak call on 4th and 4.
The question Tech fans need to ask themselves is, “Can Mike Leach get us to the level where we are a consistently elite program?” I’m not sure if the answer to that question is yes. But, the flip side is that I don’t know if there is anyone else out there right now who can do a better job at Tech than Leach does.
Cotton Bowl: A game of two coaches
The level of preparation was the difference in the game today. While Tech looked like an ‘elite’ but rusty team, Ole’ Miss looked like an ‘average’ but well oiled machine. Sort of like comparing a rusty Lexus with may be a Toyota Corrolla. Yet in the end it comes down to the commitment of two coaches. One coach (ours) went on a holiday vacation visiting presentation ceremonies and begging for coaching jobs at schools that have performed inferior to Tech in the recent times and spent time haggling over a few million dollars of compensation for a job in which he has never taken the team to a BCS bowl or even won the Big XII ever. On the other hand was Huston Nutt, who prepared his team, got them motivated and did more with less today. Congrats to Ole’ Miss. Tech remains same old Tech. Crappy defense and an opportunistic coach ready to ditch the ship whenever his agent finds a chance. If we have to dish out the kind of money that he is asking, we can actually get a coach who will take us to a BCS bowl or win the division once in a while for that money.
May be I am griping because it was frustrating to see Tech play today and I hope I am wrong, but it just seems so obvious to me at this point.
Well all
I watched the game with my brother. Very disappointing. I think all the outside stuff (awards, speaches, haggling over a contract extension) pluss Harrell’s & Crab’s injuries contributed to this poor showing. I really don’t think the team was focused or properly prepared or encouraged the way they should have been. Ole Miss is a good, not great, team. Tech simply did not play up to their potential, while Ole Miss played above their’s. Again, as others have said, the coaches were to blame for this, especially Leach, who allowed his ego and greed destroy any chemistry this team had garnered during the season. As a matter of fact, I think because his contract negotiations carried on all season, he simply was not focused on driving this team to the level it should have been. They SHOULD have averaged over 50 points/game and gone undefeated, but with distracted leadership, it just did not happen.
TTpilk
You are correct, also
about this type of performance losing us any praise or esteem that could be the stepping stones for achieving the level of performance and respect we desire from the rest of the football world. Personally, I don’t think Leach deserves the type raise that was offered, not until he takes us to a Big-12 title and a BCS berth and win. I say pull the offer and let him leave. I would much rather have someone coaching here that WANTS to be here and LOVES being here. Leach obviously does not. Our chances of obtaining the type recruits the big boys get just flew oveer the cuckoo’s nest….and he can take his pirate sword and stick it up his (where the sun don’t shine place).
TTpilk
As far as perception goes, this game set Tech back a long way. We were 11-1 and many didn’t take us seriously. When is the last time a BCS conference team went 11-1 and wasn’t taken seriously? Exactly. It just doesn’t happen.
Couple that with a nasty showing in the bowl game and Tech has a mountain to climb, yet again, in the area of perceptions. We will have to go 11-1 and win a division AND a major bowl to be taken as a player on the national landscape. This game was huge. HUGE. And we completely caved in. Sure, it was a great season in our eyes. But the rest of the conference, especially the south, has no real reason to fear Tech. This was supposed to be our best season in decades. And in many ways it was. But the 1-2 finish does nothing but kill any perceived respect we’d gained over the course of the season. What makes it worse is we lost to a team we should have demolished. Our players weren’t focused. Thanks, coach Leach. Great job the first 10 weeks of the year. Truly a great run. But that stumbling, bumbling finish knocked that sweet taste right out of our mouths. Couple that with the fact that you don’t seem interested in being a Red Raider makes it even more difficult to be on your side right now. I hope you don’t sign that extension. I want you to really earn it next year. Prove to me 11 wins wasn’t a fluke. Prove you can get this team up for a day game away from home. Prove you can play for a conference championship. Prove you can get us to the BCS. You haven’t done it in 9 years.
bama...
well… if you look at what happened to bama…
they lost one game to the current national title contender… and then lost a bowl game they shouldn’t have…. pretty badly…
we lost one game to the current national title contender… and the lost a bowl game we shouldn’t have… pretty badly…
shame that people will say we were a fluke and not bama…
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
I have been thinking the same think about the coaching. In both of our humiliating losses, I came away with the impression that we were unprepared on both sides of the ball. We may be limited in talent on the defensive side, but not as limited as we appeared. On offfense, lack of talent hardly seems an excuse at all.
Now I really understand why Houston Nutt gets so much respect. He did this to us with a team that won just three games last year. That is a telling fact.
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At least The Keg was cold..
My tailgate was a success.. That’s about the hightligh of this weekend. I don’t know what to say at this point. I was so pro-Leach.. I still am “I think”. What does it take to get a team back into the swing of things after a loss like Oklahoma. Harrell and the boys never looked the same after that night… Like some stupid sooner found some witch doctor and had a hex cast on our team. Did they get their omlet’s this time?
What am I going to do till next season?
by bleedredandblack on Jan 5, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply actions
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