That was ugly to say the least.....
Holy moly that was hard to stomach. I got some sleep and now I'm over it. I'll admit right now I was a foul mouthed SOB last night on the game day thread and I apologize to anybody I might have offended, it was all emotion.
A&M handed us our collective asses last night. That was a horrible game of football on our half. We shot ourselves in the foot way to many times. Nobody should have any toes left after that. They came into Lubbock and flat "whooped" our butts. They executed way better than we did. They forced turnovers and won the game.
Now for the hard part. Get off your pillow and quit crying. This is football. This is blood, guts, sweat, fighting, choking, kicking, punching, and anything else you can think of. There is no place for self indulgence. We can't sit around and cry about this loss. Move the hell on to the next game and get fired up. This is NOT the end of the world. They sky started to fall but Doege held it up the best he could.
I'm not sure if I'm qualified to to an evaluation of the team at this point. I didn't see the game and there are way more qualified people on the board that take care of that. But I feel it's neccesary to voice my opinion. That's why I joined the site anyway.
Potts came out flat and never seemed to get in a postion to improve. Bad reads and just generally being lost most of the time. I know we're calling for his head. He has proved that at this time he is not capable of leading this offense. All those turnovers cost us the game. Offense sparks the defense and it's always been like that in Lubbock. Had we started Doege this would have had a different outcome. Leach opted not to and here we sit with a notch in the L column. It sucks, but it was a learning experience. I'm willing to bet that Leach is fully aware of Potts inability to lead this team. Expect Doege to start against Kansas, keep a good tempo, and hang some points. I hate to say this but it seems like the offense plays better when Potts isn't on the field. That hurts but it's sooo true on so many levels. Is it their fault that they can't rally behind him?
I can't make a call on the oline. They did what they could with the tools they had. Injuries suck and that's something we are going to have to deal with. Somebody said last night that Terry McDaniel is out for 7 weeks. Is there even 7 weeks of football left? That's a horrible loss but we will get thru it. Chris Olsen will have to step up along with Okafor, Waddle, and some other guy that I can't think of.
Receivers didn't quite do their job to the best of the ability. They had a bad case of the drops almost the whole game as far as I heard. Like I stated earlier, I can't make that good of call due to the fact that I couldn't see the game. Looks like more time with the tennis ball machine is needed. Dropping passes still isn't acceptable and I'll let you know when it is. (never) Having a QB that can hit you in the numbers 80% of the time isn't a bad thing.
Defense / Ruffin - Don't call for heads just yet. Ruffin has done a great job thus far. Not including yesterday he has been pretty damn good. Like I said earlier, the offense sparks the defense. We bit on plays that are designed to get bit on. We took the bait and it showed. I agree with all of you that the "bend don't break" policy is NOT working. We need to get after it and make some heads roll. I would rather see some more defense like we had against Texas. We are capable of bringing the wood every play if we weren't so conservative on the play calling.
Special Teams - again, I didn't pay much attention cause we were punting.
So, let's gather ourselves up and carry onward. We still have a lot of ass whooping to take care of the rest of the season. OU, OSU, Kansas, and Baylor. 9-3 is obtainable if our boys can get the right mindset and take care of business.
Doege is our man for the time being. The kid has spunk and I love it. He is more than capable of leading this team to a victory. Get your guns up and Wreck Em TECH!!
KWashburn
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Potts is to blame.....
and I agree with what you’re saying about the offense sparking the D, but 320 on the ground! And it’s A&M!? In Lubbock??!! 52 points?! Unacceptable. I think Ruff doesn’t prepare. He seems to just, ‘do what he does’ and hope for the best. Btw, here in Austin I had to listen to the God awful aggie radio broadcast. They kept calling Doege Day-Gee. Ha!
¡Viva los Matadores!
by jwhitettu on Oct 25, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's actually how you say his name.
I agree that 320 on the ground is not acceptable. They exploited our weakness and made it work for them. We also looked past this game, I don’t care what anybody says. Should have prepared a lot better for this but we didn’t.
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note....
I’m sick to my f-ing stomach.
¡Viva los Matadores!
by jwhitettu on Oct 25, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another thing,
I don’t want anymore 4-5 star QB’s. They don’t seem to have the smarts to run this “scheme” offense. It doesn’t seem to fit their mold or ours.
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Harrell was a 4* QB. Potts was a heavily recruited 3* QB who had offers from a lot of “big-name” programs like Michigan, Nebraska, etc.
by kayakyakr on Oct 25, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could have sworn that Harrell was a 3* and Potts was a 5*.
My mistake, still a little touchy from last night……
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, they only have 1 other offer listed, by Michigan.
Lots more offers listed. (Funny how young his picture looks)
by kayakyakr on Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you read both of those you find out that they could both SCRAMBLE!!
Why is this trait not utilized once they arrive at Tech?
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just thought of this too.......
I know, I should have thought this post out more but I didn’t. No leader = No Win
Sheffield LEADS and we WIN. Potts didn’t lead the team which resulted in a loss. Being fired up about your job will bring everybody else up around you.
He has the skills but no leadership. There, I said it. That’s the dadgum truth.
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand
how this D is trying to get a stop on 3rd and long by letting the WR’s camp out at the first down marker and our closest DB is 10 yards away. All season our secondary has been doing pretty good, but I don’t know if it was their decision or Ruff’s to play such a soft scheme. Maybe I’m just remembering one or two plays so vividly, but everything was just wrong.
We didn’g even attempt to go downfield when A&M was playing the run tight. We didn’t run when they were playing pass, we tried to screen pass left and right way after they adjusted to it, we dropped balls and fumbled, we didn’t get pressure on JJ, we didn’t play their screen passes like they did ours, I could go on for hours.
This is the first game against the aggies that I have seen us lose. I just don’t know how to handle it. I’m barely hangin’ on here!
by djollie111 on Oct 25, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't understand that either.
The defense played way to soft. You are right about that. I didn’t know how to word it in my post and not sound to negative. Props to you.
I would rather we stick em at the line and play really tight than give them 10 yards to make a decision. That’s not the smart way to play D. At least not on my PS3.
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WATCH THE SEC
Defense wins football games. Ruffin needs to go…..Now.
by redraider2002 on Oct 25, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ruffin
makes the scheme calls on D correct? Because whoever truly does that is who I want out of here. We moved back into a “prevent” looking D when we were down in the second quarter. Seems to me when you’re down you start busting heads hoping for a fumble. And how many QB runs for 20+ yards is it going to take for Ruff to figure out to spy a darn QB?!? JJ loves to run the ball, this was established a long time ago. I just really dont understand how you can leave him alone like that. And I fully agree with you on Potts. If he starts next week can I call for Leach’s head and not get griped at about it on here? Potts has the potential, but the way he has played in his last two starts, I think anyone of us could have done just as well, if not better. Leach has to see this as well. And why did we not run more? We were getting decent yardage on every run, why not keep doing it? If I was Batch I would have to be saying something to someone. There’s no sense in it. But yes, our entire team was looking ahead. Defense went back to playing two hand touch football, problem was aTm playing tackle ball. The D was absolutely terrible on all sides last night. But…. on a bright note, Waddle impressed me. He blocked Von Miller better than the starters on the line.
by RdrPwr on Oct 25, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Consecutive turnovers is going to make the D tired.
You can’t leave those guys on the field all day and expect them to produce every play. Turnover on downs and INT’s cost us the game. I’m not going to hang the entire thing on Ruffin’s shoulders. You can’t. His name is RUFFIN for crying out loud, that has to count for something.
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He is a position coach at best.
The play calls on D were what upset me the most. How can you leave JJ that open to run? And no, you cant blame the entire thing on Ruff. The entire team played like crap and the coaches are just as responsible as the players this week. I still cant really believe this is real. Someone wake me up please.
by RdrPwr on Oct 25, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was an epic beatdown on the same level of last year’s OU loss. Why? It was a vastly inferior team, it was at home, it was at night. The coaches know went wrong, the players know what went wrong, and the fans know what went wrong.
Can it be fixed? The QB situation will kill us until Sheff is back, I fear. The defense is bi-polar, with fewer manic episodes than depressive episodes. It’s what we are going to have to live with.
Will we get to 7 wins? I seriously doubt it. And that’s not a lack of faith, that’s being pragmatic based on emperical and undeniable evidence after 8 games. Are we terrible? No. Are we really good? No, not really good either. More like the typical Leach team we field – so so, at best.
by Tech92 on Oct 25, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im tired of settling for so so…. when do we get greatness?
by RdrPwr on Oct 25, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if they're calling for Bob Stoops' head...
I’m just glad we’re not OU. Look how far they’ve fallen.
Honestly, a winning season every year Leach has been here is:
– so so, at best.
Wow.
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 25, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I don’t see 7-8 wins as much to write home about. Four of those are out of conference gimme’s most years. That means 3-5 or 4-4 in conf. Is that what gets you fired up? If so, then cool. I am not saying, by the way, that we should fire Leach. Just that his teams are typically so so. Smash the bad teams, lose to all but one (typically) good team, lose to one (typically) crappy team. It is what it is.
by Tech92 on Oct 25, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
7-8 wins?
What about 8-9 wins? what about 9-10 wins?
Would you classify those as ‘much to write home about’? I’d say that most college football fans would be happy with those results year in and year out.
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 25, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be super happy about that.
We aren’t spoiled from last season. We just expect more out of our team. Last year was the chit even with the 2 losses. I’ll stay behind this team forever. The team is still young and trying to figure all of this out.
Wreck Em TECH!!
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Camp, how many double digit seasons have we had w/Leach? One, last year, which was awesome. The bowl wins are also nice, but we usually finish the regular season with 7-8 wins. I should have been more specific. Maybe if I phrase it that we usually lose 4-5 games a year.
2000: 7-5
2001: 7-5
2002: 9-5
2003: 8-4
2004: 8-4
2005: 9-3
2006: 8-5
2007: 9-4
2008: 11-2
Now, plenty of schools would love that record from a coach. Some would think that after 10 years we would have shown more than a flash of brilliance (2008). I am not calling for the guys head.
I don’t think it’s awful, like I said. But I don’t consider that real great either. It’s decent. Again, like I mentioned, we are great out of conf against the horrible teams we schedule, drop a clunker pretty much every year in embarrasing fashion, and find a way to beat a team we probably shouldn’t. To me, that’s so-so. Not great, not terrible. But I would prefer a trending towards excellence at some point. I would consider excellence 2-3 losses per year at most.
by Tech92 on Oct 25, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully 3 losses is all we will obtain this year.
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by KWashburn on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want us to judge our coach on double digit seasons?
Paul ‘Bear’ Bryant
Maryland
1945: 6–2–1
Kentucky
1946: 7–3
1947: 8–3
1948: 5–3–2
1949: 9–3
1950: 11–1
1951: 8–4
1952: 5–4–2
1953: 7–2–1
Texas A&M
1954: 1–9
1955: 7–2–1
1956: 9–0–1
1957: 8–3
Alabama
1958: 5–4–1
1959: 7–2–2
1960: 8–1–2
So far, Bear Bryant doesn’t look all that great to me… But didn’t he win some National Championships?
Yes, after 17 years of being a head coach, he won his first:
1961: 11–0* First National Championship
Coincidentally, it took Joe Paterno 17 years to win his first National Championship.
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 25, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cherry Picking?
I’m no Bryant historian, but didn’t he coach more than 16 years?
by TechFirst on Oct 25, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was showing how long it took to win his first national championship
stopped after the 1961 season for that reason
by jeffinhouston on Oct 25, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On this list I only see 4 times where his team lost 4 or more games in one season. And one of those was his first year at aTm, so im giving him a break there.
by RdrPwr on Oct 25, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's cherry picking
What about those 5 win seasons?
Mike Leach has never had a 5 win season.
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 25, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bear Bryant, continued
1962: 10–1
1963: 9–2
1964: 10–1*
1965: 9–1–1*
1966: 11–0
1967: 8–2–1
1968: 8–3
1969: 6–5
1970: 6–5–1
1971: 11–1
1972: 10–2
1973: 11–1*
1974: 11–1
1975: 11–1
1976: 9–3
1977: 11–1
1978: 11–1*
1979: 12–0*
1980: 10–2
1981: 9–2–1
1982: 8–4
*=National Championships
It seems even the greatest football coaches have mediocre seasons every once in a while.
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 26, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t trying to start anything, just wondered what happened to the rest of Bryant’s history.
But now that you’ve got me thinking, exactly what is your point, Campeador? That Leach is just learning the job and if we give him another 10-20 years he may be a legend? I suppose that’s right, but isn’t it fair to say that the odds are against that happening. I mean out of the hundreds (thousands) of guys that have gotten into coaching and started off pretty good, how many turned out to be the next Bryant, or Wilkinson, or Paterno? Should every school give every coach 15-20 years before they start expecting results?
I’m not saying we should throw Leach under the bus. He is definitely the best thing that ever happened to our program. But is he the future? All I’m saying is that he may not be the second coming of Christ. He may have his limitations. So far he has shown a definite ability to be ‘pretty good’. He has also shown he has weaknesses that have an unnerving habit of not going away. Lots of guys [most guys] never get beyond the ‘pretty good’ stage. A very few do. There’s no way of knowing how Leach will turn out. I guess how long we wait is a personal choice.
by TechFirst on Oct 26, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
self-explanatory
Should every school give every coach 15-20 years before they start expecting results?
We only had to wait one year for results…
There’s no way of knowing how Leach will turn out.
He’s trending upward.
He compares favorably to other historical trends.
If he was a stock, I’d buy him.
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 26, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is one impressive resume
even with 1969-70 thrown in there. Wow.
by jeffinhouston on Oct 26, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Kentucky let him go because he just wasn't getting the job done...
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 25, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Leach would make a good O-coordinator, but he hasn’t shown what it takes to be a top-level head coach in the Big-12, much less in the nation. A great head coach doesn’t repeatedly hurt his team with bone-headed decisions, and doesn’t get routinely out-schemed by the better competition (much less the weaker). A great coach will take advantage of the players he has rather than stick with some pre-determined offensive plan that isn’t getting the job done. And he doesn’t treat the defense as the red-headed step-child on the team.
Is he terrible? No. But can he lead us to the promised land? Not from what he’s shown. Not unless ‘pretty good’ or ‘above average’ is your idea of success.
by TechFirst on Oct 25, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, how about Bobby Bowden?
Samford
1959: 9-1-0
1960: 8-1-0
1961: 7-2-0
1962: 7-2-0
West Virginia
1970: 8-3-0
1971: 7-4-0
1972: 8-4-0
1973: 6-5-0
1974: 4-7-0
1975: 9-3-0
Florida State
1976: 5-6-0
1977: 10-2-0
1978: 8-3-0
1979: 11-1-0
1980: 10-2-0
1981: 6-5-0
1982: 9-3-0
1983: 8-4-0
1984: 7-3-2
1985: 9-3-0
1986: 7-4-1
1987: 11-1-0
1988: 11-1-0
1989: 10-2-0
1990: 10-2-0
1991: 11-2-0
1992: 11-1-0
1993: 12-1-0* First National Championship
It took 28 years to win his first National Championship… 12 years at Florida St. to start winning double digit wins on a consistent basis…
If he’d been coaching at Texas Tech, we’d have wanted to fire him after the 1981 season.
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 25, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leach conference record
43-32 to/date 10yr 4.3 yr avg // 8 conf games/ yr
by Dr. Mark on Oct 27, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you could look up Bryant's conference record his first 10 years and compare
Or maybe you want me to do it?
Would it change your mind if they looked similar?
I doubt it. Some people don’t want facts to get in the way of their opinion.
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Oct 27, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Open up down field...
I think we’ve all realized that Sticks isn’t afraid to make the downfield pass. I love the little swing passes we run to Jeffers and whoever, but when you do it EVERY PLAY, it’s hard to turn any of that into positive yardage. I don’t thing we say ANY down field passes, minus maybe a few up the middle by Doege. And minus the time we’ve had with Sticks, did we ever see any deep passes?
As I commented on another post, let’s get back into this game! The crowd energy was so flat at the game, it was embarassing! Let’s keep our heads up, let the decisions be made by our coaches, and do what fans are suppose to do: Support the team! (am I a hypocrite? ha!)
by LBKpiratefan on Oct 25, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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