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Apparently, fat little girlfriends have been slowing us down for 10 years, Coach (since you couldn't possibly have anything to do with it)

Amidst all the talk about fat little girlfriends and lack of discipline that Leach has had so much fun with lately at press conferences, I thought it would be interesting to see if there is something to this theory. Well, shockingly, after searching online for a little while, I was unable to find any information supporting the statement that fat little girlfriends, media types, or any other external voices were directly connected to Leach- coached teams having a general lack of discipline. What I did find, however, was a consistent inability of our head coach to learn how to teach the concepts of discipline and accountability on a team with regard one of the easiest things to avoid in football: PENALTIES!!!!!!  Since Leach's first season in 2000, Texas Tech has consistently been among the nation's most penalized teams. I even found this a bit shocking (this was from a site ranking fewest yards penalized per game):

 

Year                  yds. penalized/game                         rank

2000                         76.58                                             104

2001                        61.27                                               63

2002                        Year not available on website for some reason

2003                       51.00                                               34

2004                       74.08                                                109

2005                       75.00                                                109 

2006                       83.42                                                117 (dead last that season)

2007                       64.92                                                112

2008                       71.77                                                115

2009                       60.23                                                 96

 

Links:

2000              http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2000&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

2001              http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2001&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

2003              http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2002&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

2004              http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2003&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

2005              http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2004&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

2006             http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2005&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

2007             http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2006&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

2008             http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

2009            http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&div=4&rpt=IA_teamyardspenalized&site=org

 

 

Other than a solid, relatively penalty-free season in 2003 (which just so happened to be the best offensive system in Leach's tenure, not-so coincidentally) the rest of the statistics are quite simply ridiculous. Of the nine teams listed, six...(SIX!!!!!!!!!) of them finished 104th or worse in the nation in yards penalized per game. In the 9 years listed, we have average a 95th place finish and averaged 68.70 yards penalized PER GAME!!!!!

Look guys, I love Mike Leach just as much as the next guy, and while the fat little girlfriends comment definitely rubbed me the wrong way, I LOVE that he will say whatever he is thinking and doesn't pander to everyone like every other coach in America does. I wouldn't have it any other way. I also love that he practices tough love on his players (making Britton study in the snow---hilarious). But one thing I have noticed about Leach is that he rarely will blame himself a lot of the times and is not afraid to throw his players under the bus (I do recall after the 2006 TCU game he called himself the "worst coach in America).

What bothers me the most about the fat little girlfriend comment isn't that it can be construed as offensive (though it certainly could), but rather that Leach seems to blame things that are really out of his players' control as reasons why his teams are not succeeding. As Texas Tech football players, these guys are gonna get attention from the media, fans, girls (fat or skinny) and what not. Is part of dealing with that the maturity of the players? Hell ya! But it looks like (at least to me) the one who has the problem isn't the players or the fat girls, but the Coach poking fun at them. Over his entire tenure, he has not been able to teach a team to limit penalties. I know we don't recruit troublesome and less than stand-up guys to play for our program, so for all the problems to be blamed on the players all the time is ridiculous. Part of this problem has to do with Leach's overall lazy style and approach at times, but you would think by now he would have successfully lessened the amount of yards we are penalized ever year. At this rate, it looks like we will continue to be one of the most penalized teams in the nation...if not THE most.

I hope Leach uses last week's game (which also included several penalty-induced meltdowns) as more of a learning moment for HIM instead of only for his players. He has a brilliant offensive philosophy, but he clearly stands in his own way when he neglects to teach his players discipline.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Double-T Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Double-T Nation's writers or editors.

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Give it a rest

I'm not worthy. Really.

by Campeador on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

(if you even bothered to read the whole thing, that is)

by techtom4 on Oct 27, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, i agree with Campeador.

by kayakyakr on Oct 28, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

???

I really don’t how to respond to these types of posts. I am sorry if you are upset that my opinion differs from yours? We don’t all have to agree on everything. Ultimately, you don’t have to read it, though. Just my two cents.

by techtom4 on Oct 28, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don’t have to respond to these posts just as I didn’t have to read what you wrote.

I did read what you wrote, though, and felt that what you’re criticizing have been addressed by myself and others in different threads, time and again.

by kayakyakr on Oct 29, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it has.

Which is why in those other threads I addressed that situation as well and have suggested moving past the issue. We are all on the same team, anyway.

by techtom4 on Oct 29, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with a lot of your post, but I’m not sure Leach is lazy? Years ago I remember him saying he watches about 40 hours worth of film a week during the season. Then you throw in practice and meetings and travel and the actual games…that’s a lot of work by most people’s standard. I’m not upset by your statement, I just think lazy may be a strong(or maybe just the wrong) word to use.

I just think Leach’s philosophy on penalties(and probably a few other things as well), is not like most coaches. I wish he would come around, but I’m not sure he ever will.

His “fat little gfs” statement doesn’t bother me at all. But his stubborn attitude when questioned about it, is what bothers me. Because to me, he’s got a stubborn attitude toward penalties, the running game(or lack there of), punting, and scoring very late in games that are blowouts already.

But believe it or not I’ve supported Leach from the day he showed up and I’m not gonna change any time soon. We’ve just come too far since his arrival on the South Plains for that.

by TT4EVER on Oct 27, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess I meant more like his overall style and demeanor is lazy. I know these guys put in a lot of hours though, so I’m not upset about that. Like you said though, history would indicate that he won’t ever come around. I’ve supported Leach too, and I have said before on this site that I hope he becomes the JoePa of Texas Tech. I guess we just have to live with some of his tendencies so long as he is here.

by techtom4 on Oct 27, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also agree, to an extent

Penalties are going to happen, especially when paying aggressive football. Could they be cut down? Of course they could. But no matter how much the coaches teach, if the players do not have their own form of discipline, improvement will be hard earned. Many of the players that do draw penalties are the better players on the team. Again, discipline will enable them to cut down most, but not all of the penalties. The ones I have the most difficulty understanding, for any team to make, is blocking in the back. Discipline. It must be taught, but it also must be adhered to. After all, the coach is on the sidelines, not in the game when the penalties occur. Now, with all that said, penalties, though frustrating, are not the worst thing going on. Tech, this football team and those throughout Tech’s existence, has always lost, it seems to someone once or twice almost every year that should not have even been able to contend, much less win against Tech. Once Texas Tech gets beyond the losing to lesser competition, they will be able to step up to that next level of play we fans so want to see. Part of that is cutting down on all penalties. The other part is doing more than just showing up for a game, come with energy, excitement and desire to destroy the other team, regardless of who it is, and dance away with a win. They CAN do it. WILL they do it? That is the question.

TTpilk

by TTpilk645 on Oct 27, 2009 11:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Very well put

and I totally agree with your post. I know penalties are a given, and that no team can totally avoid them. The degree to which we suffer from though is just ridiculous. Consistently ranking in the 100’s will hinder us from making much progress.

by techtom4 on Oct 27, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have definitely noticed the penalties as well. It’s a very valid point to bring up. How many times are we in a prime position to score, only to have consecutive penalties push us out of the red zone? This just seems like one of those things that it is a coach’s responsibility to help iron out.

by RdrPwr on Oct 27, 2009 11:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the problem

with your theory is that Leach doesn’t consider penalties to be a “bad” thing. He doesn’t punish his team for penalties. Leach has said numerous times (at least 1 time this year) that penalties sometimes correlate with playing aggressively and he has no problem with that.

Thus, if Leach doesn’t consider penalties to be a bad thing (I think he qualifies it a bit), then I think that criticizing him because his teams have penalties is in accurate.

Additionally, I would love to know how exactly Leach is lazy or are you just making assumptions about his appearance? I’ve thought that when the season is on, he works as much as any staff, but was just curious as to what you were basing your opinion. It would be one thing to base it on a particular instance, but to simply base it on appearance doesn’t seem fair or accurate.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Oct 28, 2009 5:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I responded to basically the same questions in a different post,

but I will go ahead and do so here as well.

Leach doesn’t consider penalties to be a "bad" thing. He doesn’t punish his team for penalties. Leach has said numerous times (at least 1 time this year) that penalties sometimes correlate with playing aggressively and he has no problem with that.

This is fine, and I totally agree with the idea that penalties can come from a team being aggressive in some cases. It’s just the consistent meltdowns we have some games that are triggered by false starts and delay of game penalties that cause us not to score when we could have that get to me. I know penalties come with agression, but to say that this agression consistently ranks in the 100’s in yards penalized, I think, is being a bit lenient on Leach.

Additionally, I would love to know how exactly Leach is lazy or are you just making assumptions about his appearance?

I guess lazy is not the right word, but more stubborn/unwilling to change things that are not working/slowing the things down. Baron Batch only having two carries (I think?) for 16 yards in the Cotton Bowl comes to mind. I think we can agree that halftime adjustments are not one of our strengths under Leach, both on offense and defense. Perhaps he is lazy (or stubborn) in this regard in that he doesn’t want to change anything seemingly ever, even when said change would appear to be for the betterment of the team.

by techtom4 on Oct 28, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I understand what you're saying

but I thought your criticisms, and others apparently do to, warranted a response. No one thinks you’re being a jerk or an ass, and everyone is entitled to their opinions. But that also means that you may find yourself having a good discussion with other TT fans.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Oct 29, 2009 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Good discussion is, after all, the entire point of this blog’s existence that you so wonderfully maintain :)

by techtom4 on Oct 29, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Leach frist got to Tech he used to punish guys in practice for getting penalties in games. What happened is just what he discussed a couple of weeks ago. When you are so worried about getting penalized you do not do your job with any intensity. Because of our wide open offense and huge line splits we do a lot of one on one blocking in space. This makes us more sesceptible to holding calls. Guess what. We still have the top producing offense in the country.

by Raider75 on Oct 28, 2009 6:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the two comments above.

Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. It might be the case (I certainly hope it is not) that one of a number of reasons why we are such an offensively prolific team is because the players are told to do their jobs with a level of intensity lending itself to penalization. I recall the quote from that Michael Lewis article where Leach was criticizing Hicks (or someone) for not holding more on a block.

In any event, incredibly it doesn’t appear to me that there’s a strong correlation between penalties and winning. I notice:

2008: TCU (118th 12-2) USC (117th 12-1) Georgia (116th 10-3) BYU (112th 10-3). You have to go to the 111th most penalized team to find a loser (Washington St.) On the flip side, Army, ranked 9th, was 3-9. 100-104 Oregon, Utah, Cincy, Boise St., and Oklahoma had a combined record of 68-9. Just a quick spot test reveals that the worst teams, actually, are bundled in the middle ranks, from around 35-95.

You can see similar trends in the other years. For example, in 2007 4 of the top 10 least penalized teams have losing records, including 1-11 Minnesota and 3-9 Army.

Something to keep in mind as well, Texas Tech runs more plays than nearly any other team in the country every single year. As penalties are organized by yards per game, our ranking is actually much better, on a per play basis, than some of the teams occupying spots near ours. We have run the 2nd most offensive plays in the entire country. It could skew the results.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Oct 28, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just adding on...

It shouldn’t be surprising if it really is the case that there is a correlation between high penalty yards per game and winning. Very good teams run more offensive plays than very bad teams, and the two most common penalties are holding and false start.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Oct 28, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for looking up penalties per play

that is the first thing that came to my mind. And I don’t believe that Leach doesn’t care about penalties. I recall him making comments about things like false starts and illegal formations as being mental errors that needed correcting. Penalties that come from playing intensity he is OK with. Mental mistakes drive him crazy (be they in the form of penalties, running poor routes, making bad reads, or just not showing up for the game) drive him crazy.

by NM99 on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When penalties are killers

Take last weeks game. We score on our first drive. atm fumbles on their first play and we get it on their 30. Then a procedure call. Then Winn goes downfield to block on a screen, gets his man down, and then gives a guy on his knees a shot in the back as the play ends with the ref standing right there.

We saw what happened when K.St. got the aggies down early. The same thing that happened when we got K.St. down early. We had the chance to do the same to atm, but we blew it and gave them momentum. That may have been the difference in the game right there.

Were those two penalties from being intense? No, they came from lack of discipline, i.e. lack of coaching. If ‘lazy’ means not addressing problems that can [and will] kill a team in crucial situations, then I’d have to agree. Granted, if we were steam-rolling everyone we played, then a coach could get away with ignoring a problem like this (or saying it didn’t matter). But by the same token, isn’t this the same thing as saying ’I’m not going to worry about something that will cost us the close ones’?

by TechFirst on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So what did Leach say to Winn after that drive?

Do you know? Did he pat him on the back? Did he say or do anything? Did Matt Moore say or do anything? Was there any discussion about anything when reviewing that play in the film room? Anybody know?

What I get tired of is that there’s this assumption that these things are not addressed at all. How the heck do you know?

So then we make this projection that Leach is not disciplined. It seems to me that we have all seen and heard of real situations where Leach has exacted pretty clear and stiff disciplinary actions on his student athletes. Why don’t these known events get projected into a perception that Leach is very disciplined?

And he’s lazy. Based on what? He starts work later in the morning than somebody else? I’d really like to know what fact-based events these types of comments are based on… Because we have a lot of penalties? Well, based on above, it looks like Pete Carroll and Bob Stoops and several others are pretty lazy too.

Rant over…. for now….

by Houston Raider on Oct 28, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the old "If Only We Had a Different Coach" complaint

Aggies love that one. 4 times in less than a decade now. Poor Aggies.

OK, you’re right. Let’s bring back the glory days of Jerry Moore and Rex Dockery. RB right, RB center, RB left, punter punt. That described 75% of all offensive possessions in the 1978-86 era. Fun times if you love 3-3 ties with Rice on a day when it’s 15 degrees & snowing in Jones Stadium. Spike upgraded us to slightly above mediocre, which was an improvement on the bad football program he inherited. But while Spike got us to the bottom tier of bowl games, he almost never won them. He had like 2 wins (Duke & Air Force) in 12 tries.

Leach has 5 already.

Leach is the best thing to happen to Texas Tech football in 35 years. In a few years I suspect we will say of all time when he takes us to a BCS bowl game.

by mbrown603 on Oct 28, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this completely trumps the whole idea of penalties.
Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. It might be the case (I certainly hope it is not) that one of a number of reasons why we are such an offensively prolific team is because the players are told to do their jobs with a level of intensity lending itself to penalization. I recall the quote from that Michael Lewis article where Leach was criticizing Hicks (or someone) for not holding more on a block.

In any event, incredibly it doesn’t appear to me that there’s a strong correlation between penalties and winning. I notice:

2008: TCU (118th 12-2) USC (117th 12-1) Georgia (116th 10-3) BYU (112th 10-3). You have to go to the 111th most penalized team to find a loser (Washington St.) On the flip side, Army, ranked 9th, was 3-9. 100-104 Oregon, Utah, Cincy, Boise St., and Oklahoma had a combined record of 68-9. Just a quick spot test reveals that the worst teams, actually, are bundled in the middle ranks, from around 35-95.

You can see similar trends in the other years. For example, in 2007 4 of the top 10 least penalized teams have losing records, including 1-11 Minnesota and 3-9 Army.

Something to keep in mind as well, Texas Tech runs more plays than nearly any other team in the country every single year. As penalties are organized by yards per game, our ranking is actually much better, on a per play basis, than some of the teams occupying spots near ours. We have run the 2nd most offensive plays in the entire country. It could skew the results.

Its obvious that winning teams take penalties. My dad is a AA college football coach and I can quote him here in saying “a ref can call holding on any play”. Being taught if you cant stop him from making the sack, then hold, or if you cant stop him from catching the pass, interfere, I dont call that a bad thing. I think this whole argument is moot from the above stats. I really love how Tech fans adore our captain, but when I see people turning on him like this from a few bad games, wow…..I thought we were different than the rest of the country. I like to brag about how Leach is the most adored coach in the country, but now wer are making our coaches and players doubt themselves from all this banter (including the Potts chanting), no wonder the kid is having a tough time. Support your guys, I know we want to be the best, but do you not think that 95% of all the colleges in the nation would kill to have a QB like TP?

by Techerrific on Oct 28, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

Leach knows that he could have made some(other coaching)decisions on and off the field this year.I posted on Sat night(while in frustration)that he is not coaching up to his ability.I say that on a positive note because no one knows what is in Leach’s heart.The man has a passion for what he does.And 99% pf the time he makes great decisions.I will take Leach any day compared to a Carroll or a Brown or these coaches around the country.When they open their mouths they literally make me want to puke by some of the excuses they come up with just because they THINK they are entitled to make excuses by association of the school they are at.Look what Leach has done.With what he has to work with.

His mentality is I REALLY DONT GIVE A DAMN this is what I think will win more ball games then “Oh do I look good in my coaching gear today”.I would love to see Leach wear shorts and a tee shirt on the sidelines at a game with a cup of coffee and see what the media would do with that.The team might play better with the attitude lets ‘WRECK’ EM’ and play some back yard ball. We might just show the other team they have"fat little girlfriends too".He has said that he has made mistakes as well as his coaches.I stated on the post Sat night that I would be at Leach’s office doorstep with a bullhorn because of mistakes being made.Just because I am a donor does not give me the right to get out of hand with actions that are undesirable.I do want to voice my opinion and If it is to disagree with Leach or a player that is not preforming up to their ability I will speak.I am the last one that will throw anyone under the bus.Why do we let our emotions get the best of us?Because we want the same things? All of us?We all want to feel like it did a year ago leading into the TEXAS game. The reality is we are not.So lets keep on what we are doing.I would rather be 5-3 than 0-8.We have some good things happening at TECH.And I want to be apart of it.For along time.Adversity is learning.You know maybe this last butt whipping is what we all needed.Even the team.Even Leach.The man is SMART enough to know he is human.I am smart enough to know Potts the DTN contributing authors are only human also.I would bet that when in their(Leach,Potts others on the team) alone time that it all comes crashing down.When I stopped to realise that then I myself became humbled.To put myself in their shoes is a different story.

I not only think all this will turn around for the good I KNOW it will.I will be there this Sat prouder than ever to be a RED RAIDER.If Potts is in well I will yell even louder for the guy.Not because I feel sorry but I think he can over come what has been wrong for so long.And this team will turn it around for sure.Even If Leach sleeps late and don’t like what fat little girlfriends are doing to his players.Motivating people sometimes takes drastic measures.Understanding it might having to look at the word excentric.If it gets the job done who would I be to complain? Much less anyone else.

by slycanyon on Oct 28, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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