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SB Nation Big 12 Roundtable :: Week 6

 

This is the fifth installment of the 2009 edition of the SB Nation Big 12 Roundtable. Husker Mike is serving as this week's host, and as such, we will have a recap post of the different responses around SBN later in the week.

On to the questions!

1.  I'm sure everybody had preseason predictions for their team.  Now that we're a few games in, revise your predictions with your best and worst case scenarios (being reasonable on both sides), and then revising your prediction for the season result.

I think that most fans were predicting between 9 and 10 wins for the year as a best case scenario.  Although there was plenty of reaction, I don't think it was a stretch to say that the two early games against Texas and Houston were going to be problematic, but the problem has been the steady stream of injuries and suspensions that have pushed Texas Tech back a bit.

Right now, I'd say that that most fans are being a bit more grounded when it comes to predictions in that 7 or 8 wins is more appropriate, which is probably not what most folks expected. 

Right now, I think Texas Tech should win against Kansas St., Texas A&M, and Baylor.  That's 6 wins.  Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma St. and Oklahoma would be toss-ups in that there's a good argument that Texas Tech could win or lose either game.  

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2.  In 2010, the Big 12 will send it's 7th place team to play in a new bowl game to be played at Yankee Stadium, replacing the Independence Bowl in Shreveport.  What's your take on this move?  Is it a good move for players?  Is it a good move for the conference?  Is it a good move for fans?

To be honest, I sorta forgot about the Independence Bowl and I'm a short 3 hours away from good times in the great state of Louisiana.  I suppose the possible media attention would be good, but it is the 7th place team.  I do have concerns about the benefit/burden of playing in New York (I hear it's expensive).

3.  Oklahoma is now 2-2, with one of those victories coming against a winless 1-AA team.  Will all be well in Soonerland once Sam Bradford returns?

The loss of Bradford has been a big deal, but it seems as if the injury situation is mounting and the offense is missing some key cogs to make things run.  I'd like to think that Bradford is the medicine the Sooners need, but I think the problems are a little deeper than that.  Bradford will help and the fact that those pesky non-conference games are out of the way will help tremendously, although Texas looms in two weeks.  If Bradford plays, I would recommend that he make a mental note about the placement of Kindle for most of the game.

4.  This week, Missouri and Nebraska face off on an ESPN Thursday night broadcast at 8 pm.  Last Thursday, Colorado lost to West Virginia.  Missouri and Colorado both have played Friday night road games.  What's your take on non-Saturday games?

I like it, but just not all of the time.  It's like playing early in non-conference in that there's the idea that your team will receive additional exposure (keep in mind that Texas Tech parlayed playing Texas early to ensure that the Houston game would be on television the next week), but I think it's tough on the staff to get ready for a game so early in the week. 

5.  It seems everybody is in agreement that the bottom three teams in the North are the bottom three teams in the conference.  Is the gap growing, and which of these teams is going to break out of the cellar first.  Or is it hopeless?

Of Iowa St., Kansas St. and Colorado, I think I have the most faith in Kansas St. trending upward.  I think the problem with Colorado is that at some point Hawkins' presence will start to affect recruiting and although I don't follow Iowa St. as closely, I think it's going to be a long haul for Rhodes to pull that program back up, but I do think he's the right guy for the job.  With KSU, I don't think that Prince was awful in recruiting and there's something to be said about hiring a quality staff that helps Snyder coach his players up.

6.  Rank all of the division 1 football conferences from top to bottom.  Not just the BCS conferences (ACC, Big 12, Big 10/11, Big East, Pac 10, SEC), but the others (MAC, Conference USA, WAC, Mountain West, Sun Belt) as well.  Who's the strongest conference, and who's the pretender?

I'm awful at subjective ranking of things because I continually talk myself in and out of a ranking every 5 seconds.  I'll still give it a shot, but I realize this is just crap.

1.  SEC
2.  Big 12
3.  Pac 10
4.  ACC
5.  Big 10
6.  Big East
7.  Mountain West
8.  Conference USA
9.  WAC
10.  MAC
11.  Sun Belt

7.  PowerPoll time.  Rank 'em 1 to 12 based on who you think would be the victor on a neutral field.

1.  Texas Longhorns
2.  Missouri Tigers
3.  Nebraska Cornhuskers
4.  Oklahoma Sooners
5.  Oklahoma St. Cowboys
6.  Texas Tech Red Raiders
7.  Kansas Jayhawks
8.  Texas A&M Aggies
9.  Baylor Bears
10.  Kansas St. Wildcats
11.  Iowa St. Cyclones
12.  Colorado Buffaloes

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Is Texas really number one?

I just dont see why everyone is putting UT so high this year. Based on the past, sure.
But they just simply dont look as good this year. McCoy is not even 2-1 TD’s to interceptions, and their running game just isnt amazing. Granted, they have the talent, but it simply hasnt shown itself thusfar in the season. Statistically, Potts is just as good if not better than McCoy this season, and our fans were begging to have him removed! If Texas goes to the ’ship this year, it just proves that college football as a whole had a horrible year.

by RdrPwr on Oct 6, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is #1

in your opinion? Is it Nebraska, OSU, etc. I don’t know that I agree that they’re the best team ever and the only team of note they’ve beaten is TT, but I don’t know who else I think would beat them on a neutral field.

Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Oct 7, 2009 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgive me, for some reason I was thinking nationally when I replied to this. Although, I think Nebraska could handle Texas on a neutral field simply because of their D. And… although OU has two losses, I still see them winning in on a neutral field in Dallas this year. Then again, Miama and Alabama is my pick for the championship game, so in my eyes the loss to Miama doesn’t mean much. I see OU with only one possible loss in the big 12 and thats to Tech if we come out ready to play. I dont see any major conference team, except maybe ’bama depending of if they can beat Florida in the SEC championship game, finishing undefeated this year.

by RdrPwr on Oct 7, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Texas Beat TTU

in a hard fought home game….they have to be very good to have accomplished that.

by TallMike on Oct 7, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Roundtable

1. I was very optimistic that Tech would win 10, maybe 11 games. However, the inexperience, lost players and injuries have taken a toll already. I still feel, though that an 8 to 9-win season is a possibility. If the team jells as much this week and builds on it as I hope, they could push the win total to 10, but that would be unreakistic the way they are now playing.
2. New York Bowl Game…I don’t like it. Too far and costly to be rewarding to the Big-12 in any way. It will not help a whole lot in recruiting either, with the 7th place team going there and not one of the top 3 or 4 teams.
3. What Seth said. OU still is far from where they were last year, but, who knows…kind of the same as Tech, I think.
4. Non-Saturday games don’t help any team, they just give the networks some fodder.
5. One never knows, but the bottom four or five will usually be as they are now and the top four or five will remain the same. Just the way it is.
6. Irrelevant right now, but the SEC is still tops, with the PAC-10 about even with the Big-12 behind them.
7. Same as Seth, but just because no one has shown yet they can unseat UT. It has been a weird year so far, so, again, anything could happen the rest of the way. Anyone could stumble, anyone could catch fire. Coin toss on who wins the Big-12.

TTpilk

by TTpilk645 on Oct 6, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts

6. I think that is about right, but I would put the Mountain West ahead of the Big East. That said, I’m like you and my opinion seems to change day-to-day or week-to-week.

7. I’m biased, but the only change I would make is to put Tech ahead of OSU. Lot of hype around OSU, but I’m not sold on them yet. Maybe a tie for 5th in conference? Measuring stick would be the U of H game for both. I give the nod to Tech given how we played them them on the road. Home loss for OSU.

Doesn’t really matter since we’ll find out soon enough. Sure hope we beat them this year.

by imisswesttexas on Oct 7, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just saw where Neb has given up a grand total of 28 points in four games. Wow, that’s incredible. I don’t care who you play, that’s pretty stout.

by Tech92 on Oct 7, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OU’s ability to play at a high level was somewhat in doubt at the beginning of the season based on players to man the o-line. We should not be surprised that they are off a bit, regardless of Bradford’s circumstances. The same thought kind of plays as well for the Red Raiders.

Nebraska and Missouri game may be worth watching, they could play an exciting football game.

Who on this site would have thought either TTU or OU would have two losses at this point in the season? I am suprised.

by TallMike on Oct 7, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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