Post Game Thoughts :: Oklahoma St. Cowboys Edition
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The Result :: Not Good Enough: That may be the meme for the entire season, "just not good enough." Every loss is frustrating, but as I watched the game last night I couldn't help but think that the defense played good enough, the offense was slow, but played good enough, etc. There are always plenty of plays during a game to point to that evidence the loss, but I thought the difference in the game was the pick-6 that Sheffield throws that puts Oklahoma St. up by 2 touchdowns. If that doesn't happen, then I'm not sure we're talking about a loss this morning, although it was certainly the motivation that Leach needed to sit Sheffield down for the remainder of the game. That's not to say that I put the loss on Sheffield's shoulders. If the receivers catch a few more passes, I also think the result is a bit different. I will say that the resiliancy of this team is remarkable and my season long meme may not be palatable to most, but my summer-meme will be that this team will be hell on wheels in 2010.
And I don't know if it's just me, and I hate to lose, but the fact that the team gave good effort for the entire game gives me solace. It doesn't make it right, but at the very least, it gives makes me sleep better at night.
The Storylines ::
Sheffield Is Not the Best Ever and Potts Is Not the Worst Ever: I think we've all heard the phrase that the truth is somewhere in the middle between 2 opposing viewpoints and I think this applies to the quarterback situation. I think Tech92 mentioned this earlier in the week (giving credit, but not linking) that Leach is just as confused about the quarterback situation as the fanbase is. Sheffield's 2nd interception for the night, the pick-6, had nothing to do with his ankle and everything to do with making the assumption that this pass that's been there all game was going to get jumped and returned for a touchdown. I'm not pinning the loss on Sheffield and Potts had plenty of moments where he didn't appear to make all of the right decisions, but I think the key here is that both quarterbacks have their pros and cons and as great as Sheffield looked previously, he's not perfect. And to add to that, he's obviously not the same with the ankle injury. I think it's also unfair to Potts not to mention that his spark in the 2nd half, the same type of spark that Sheffield gets credit for, was the reason why Texas Tech as able to come back into the game so quickly. That arm that we've all heard about was on display during that second to last drive. All-in-all, each have their issues and as Captain Mike Leach said after the game, it's more about consistency:
On Taylor Potts and the Texas Tech offense:"I thought he was OK, but it just wasn’t real dynamic and we turned the ball over and were close to others. Hit a few of our opponents with a couple too many footballs, so I figured we’d put Sheffield in and see how that went and he kind of sparked things. That basically went pretty well other than a turnover when we put them on the two or something. They’re both inconsistent and at some point we’ve got to just be consistent; and be consistent at other positions. We dropped too many balls. We missed some holes at running back. Up front I thought we had great protection at times and then there’d be key times when we weren’t so great."
Sheffield's ankle isn't right, Potts had to come back too quick from a concussion and QB Seth Doege's future looks bright, but just isn't ready this year. What I can say definatively is that there will be an epic quarterback battle in 2010.
Bane of My Existance -- The Running Quarterback: Perhaps "bane of my existance" is a bit harsh, but this is the defensive conundrum that Ruffin McNeill faces is tricky. With the running quarterback, or perhaps the quarterback that can run if necessary, there's not point in putting a defensive lineman as a spy because the QB can out run the lineman. I would also say that right now, I feel the same way about the linebackers at Texas Tech, sans Marlon Williams. He seems like he could keep pace, but even then I'm not completely sold that he could keep pace with a QB. If McNeill brings a safety up then the team runs the risk of giving up a big play over the top, although I'd truly have to wonder if Robinson could hit a receiver in stride more than twice in a game. If McNeill puts 8 players up front, then Gundy goes 4 wide, a linebacker is forced to cover a slot receiver, and we've all seen what that entails. McNeill has always played it safe in the secondary and much of the success that the secondary has had this year and the previous years can be attributed to that philosophy. Bringing up a safety leaves the defense vulnerable, but at the very least it hopefully stops the QB from running. I think the eventual answer is that with the increased speed of the linebackers this option for an offense becomes less and less likely. If McNeill's recruiting trends are any indication, then speed at the linebacker position is a high priority. Right now, it's a question of having the right personnel and that may take at least 1 more season for McNeill to get the guys where he wants them.
Tired Defense: Can I just be the first one to say that I really don't think the defense was really tired. I think this was more of a situation of Oklahoma St. doing what they do really well, which is eat up the clock and run the ball. I really didn't think the defense looked overly taxed the 2nd half, but I did think that the quarterback draw play plagued the Red Raiders, which wasn't a function of a tired defense, but rather not having the personnel. There's a lot of depth on this defense. The announcers (particularly the play-by-play guy) really played up the tired excuse, which I found to be convenient and lazy assumptions. And if the defense is tired, wouldn't the offense be conversely tired too? Perhaps I'm just being a bit sore about the entire thing, but the offense is out there working and I'm waiting for an announcer to be a bit bold and talk about how tired the offense is after going on an 8 minute drive.
Someone Really Asked This Question: I'm not real sure how to respond to this, but it appears that some reporter actually asked Leach if Zac Robinson, who was pretty good running the ball, but was 9-21 for 90 yards and a touchdown if Leach thought Robinson was the best quarterback he's seen.
On if Robinson is the best quarterback he’s seen:"I think he’s a good one. I wouldn’t go that far, I think he’s a good one. We’ve seen some pretty good ones. The fella from Houston; Texas and so it goes. I’ve liked him from early on. I liked him just back when they had that little deal when they were splitting time between the two of them. I thought he was pretty good then."
Rebuilding: Am I a bad fan if I've resigned myself to think that the 2010 version of Texas Tech is going to be much better than the 2009 version? Of course, I'd love to see this team finish with 2 wins to finish out the year and I think that playing well is a spring-board to the next season, but I think this team next year will be much more prepared to battle for a Big 12 Championship. Other than the defensive end position, almost every position returns a starter or player with significant playing time. The rough spots that this team has encountered and battled back from, which include early suspensions, numerous injuries to key positions, quarterbacck uncertainty, etc. But this team is pretty damned close I think to something really special next year. I'm going to enjoy what's going on now, but I think this year, as tough as it's been will serve the team well next year.
The Offensive MVP :: WR Detron Lewis: He showed how special he can be and physically he's a dominant player, or perhaps has the ability to be a dominant player. I'd love to see Lewis get the ball 3 or 4 more times during a game in open space.
The Defensive MVP :: CB Jamar Wall: For the hit alone, he gave the offense at the very least an opportunity to score in the last 2 minutes. Wall sacrificed his body on that hit on Zac Robinson for the team. I'm going to remember that play for a long time. Wall did give up a touchdown, but I think he was sure that the help would be there in plenty of time, which it was, but Franklin Mitchem just didn't make the play.
The Special Teams MVP :: PR Austin Zouzalik: We finally saw a little bit of breakout from Zouzalik, and although Zouzalik has been solid most of the year, he's been quiet. Not to mention, Matthew Williams going 1-2 and Ryan Erxleben having to punt 4 times, for a 43 yard average, although good, didn't necessarily inspire me.
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TTU does not have an Air Raid caliber qb. No one has stepped into that role and delivered with aplomb. I wrote this for another board and was happy to see it aligns well with Seth’s thoughts. The fun looks to be the off season development of next season’s qb. Will Doege or Karam get an even shot at winning opportunity to be next season’s starter, or even one / two punch for qb ? I am so disappointed in the progress of either 1st or 2nd qb this season…then who knows Potts may be just on the verge of the light-bulb coming on.
Potts started the game and before he got off the first pass, one could tell that he was running at a much too slow tempo.
Sheffield’s appearance did not make much difference execpt to allow Potts time to some what get re composed.
When Potts did come back in the last drive, the tempo was much much better and it showed. Then the receivers could not catch the ball.
Offense did such a weak job yesterday. I agree with Detron Lewis’ play being worthy of MVP, but I also am hesitant to use the term for yesterday’s offense.
Defense played a good game until they ran out of gas, (yeah, I kind of buy into that notion) I know that is not an excuse, they are supposed to continue to play at a high level. It would have helped emmensly had the offense made a drive or two in the second half earlier to help the team develop some momentum and allow the defense a bit of recovery time…but then where is Perry and or Wade, where is depth on the d-line ???
The score is probably an accurate measure of this game for TTU. OSU is not that great a team, they were clearly vulnerable to be beaten on their home field, TTU missed a great opportunity.
by TallMike on Nov 15, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sheffield is pretty good
I think Sheffield is pretty good when he is fit. Leach should have gone with him from the start. It was a wrong decision on Leach’s part to start the year with Potts instead of Sheffield.
by jef on Nov 15, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of acting like an obnoxious malcontent because your unreasonable expectations haven't been met
maybe you should learn to live with what you are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBT2wzpPI2k
by mojavereject on Nov 15, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I got it....
You were just trying to beat the 92’s to the punch…
by Houston Raider on Nov 16, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
No long winded, worn out criticisms and back handed complements…
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Nov 17, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What has Leach won that you're so proud of? A conference title? A division title?
And why would you even think that he of all people, is beyond reproach. He’s just a football coach. I’m sure even he would admit that he’s no mother Theresa!
My point being, this is a Big12 blog brother!! This isn’t your momas tea party!! Hello?!!
by TT4EVER on Nov 18, 2009 5:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right. He's never won anything...
No national championships… (Obviously, never will…)
Even had to share that division title last year…
Like he said, fire him….
I’m sure we can get someone else in here that we won’t be able to find near as much to complain about….
But wait, that’s what the blog is for… What will we do then?
(Maybe I’ll help organize a tea party…)
by Houston Raider on Nov 18, 2009 7:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheffield has had his moments
So has the other guy.
If Shefffield could lead the team and play with tempo, read and react, and make accurate passes, he would have been the starter from the git go. I kind of shot gunned that, but the point is he was not good enough earlier to get the start and was played just enough to see his up side and some heroics…but there was also some pretty dead time in his game that has to be recognized.
Potts has been pretty good at times, we could add the ‘when he is fit’ qualifier here also, his game vs UT was not a bad game. His body of work this season, like the other guy’s is simply not up to the level of quality that is needed to effectively run the offense.
Maybe the light will come on for one or the other today, that is looking more and more like a hope and a wish than a practicality this season.
by TallMike on Nov 16, 2009 9:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tired Defense
I think they become more mentally tired than physically tired.
Remember, the offense is following a predetermined play while the defense is in a constant state of reaction. Reaction time will be slowed by milliseconds and that is the difference between Bird slapping down a pass or Whitlock not getting the exact angle to wrap up a tackle.
VIVA LA FIGA!
by bmaxw on Nov 15, 2009 12:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say the exact same thing. Thank you!
Defense is entirely anticipation. That is mentally exhausting if anything.
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by KWashburn on Nov 15, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t buy the tired defense thing either for EARLY in the second half. I mean, we had a week off to rest up for this one. Although, by midway in the second half, ya I think our D were probly having hell catching their breath. It’s been said that playing defense takes more energy since they don’t know the play call.
But, you’re right, gotta give credit to Okie st for mustering up the determination and grit to do what they do best against a defense that had dominated them the whole first half. They were ranked for a reason I guess.
Winning on the road, in the Big12 is tough no matter what, much less against a pretty solid team. That and lack of experience at alot of positions is why I predicted 7 or 8 wins before the season for us. Hopefully we can be more consistent all across the board next year with more experience for our younger guys to draw on.
by TT4EVER on Nov 15, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure about “tired” (if our defense was strong enough we should have stopped them BEFORE they burned all that time off to tire them out, but overall I think our defense did play well, but need to get better), but didn’t we lose Marlon Williams in the second half? I think that probably killed our run defense for a while.
Also, I’m not sure what was going on with our QBs or if Perrish Cox is just a total BEAST in terms of disguising coverage. Either our guys made HORRIBLE reads on that defense, or Perrish Cox has THE best ability to close on a ball that I’ve ever seen. But either way, he’s a senior so we should never need to see him again (same for Jordan Shipley, I’ll be glad he’s gone too assuming the ‘horns don’t find some other way to tweak rule and get him a 7th year of eligibility _).
But I was optimistic for next year at the start of this year (and I was pessimistic about this year then also). What’s interesting, is we have the POSSBILITY of hitting the “possible but unfortunate” end of my prediction (8-4) while still winning 2 games I figured would be tough (OU (if we win) and Nebraska). Mainly because this year saw the AWFUL return of the “bad loss” (to Texas A&M). I’m a little surprised because altho I fully expected to lose to UT this year (we should start getting fired up now for next year though), I thought Houston was totally winnable (and we SHOULD have won that one) and I saw OK State as a toss-up, and it unfortunately went against us.
More than anything else, I think what has been MADDENING about this season is that (except for “bad loss” A&M, which we shouldn’t have lost period) all of our losses have been close. Which wouldn’t be THAT notable except I think we can all agree that except MAYBE the UT game, we did NOT play our best football in ANY of them. Both Houston and OK State we were within a touchdown, and we can look at MANY plays and say "if we make THAT play (or DON’T make that play) we probably win that game. And THAT is just a total buzz-kill. All I can say is I hope our luck (for injuries, for making plays, for everything) is better next year than this one. And the only other reason I feel somewhat optimistic is that the few (big 12) teams that have looked “better” than us this year, look to be worse next year. That was why I was optimistic for 2010 at the start, I was just expecting us to look more improved by now. :\
by HeeroTX on Nov 15, 2009 1:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with Seth about looking to 2010. I’ve said that all since the spring, as have a few others. I knew this season would be a challenge, though I don’t think I saw the QB position having so much uncertainty. I was more worried about our WRs, DBs and O-line.
I’ve not given up on 2009, per se. But with only two games + a bowl game left, there’s not a ton of time left to improve. I think realistic expectations are 7-5, with an eighth win in a bowl game. That’s not awful, by any stretch, but at this point in the season it’s okay to look ahead a bit.
This will go down as the most challenging and frustrating year (at least for me) since Leach took over. But even that has not made for a terrible year. Potts has not been handled well this last month or so, and that’s on Leach. I’m by no means a Potts apologist, but I don’t think Leach has done him any favors. Even great teams slip up. It’s how we rebound in the spring and fall workouts that can make 2010 special.
by Tech92 on Nov 15, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not sure how to interpret that pic (?)
by Tech92 on Nov 15, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Same old and tired criticism of Leach
At least you’re consistent (and predictable).
I'm not worthy. Really.
by Campeador on Nov 15, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Average season with an average team
We can’t be to dissappointed even though we all wanted more out of this group. I still think 2010 will be special if we can get a decent QB. I like the progress our defense has made. Lots of areas need addressing and I just hope Leach sees where the help is needed. Personally, for this season 8-4 would be a success but I think 7-5 is more realistic. Hopefully we can keep the top shelf recruits and come away from this season with a bowl win. I can’t say today that OSU is a better team but they did execute better and kept their penalties to a minimum. The QB problem at Tech this season says it all. Week to week it’s a crapshoot and that simply isn’t going to make for a successful football season. I like Potts and SS both fine but I don’t think either of these guys compare to Harrell and some of the past QB’s that ran this offense. It should be interesting who the QB is next year. Maybe Karam or Young could make a case for hitting the field early. In the end I just hope Leach and the coaching staff learned something from this season and we build on that for 2010.
by Raider1992 on Nov 15, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tired on Defense
Maybe it’s just me, but if I know where I am going and what I am trying to complete, I tend be not to so fatigued. The offense knows the play and where they are going, ever play a game of tag, seems that if you are the one chasing you wear out a little quicker then the one your trying to catch. The defensive line has to chase the QB after they have a huge physical confrontation with a wooley mammouth. It’s only common sense that you will tire quicker on defense, depth is a luxury. When you can sub and everyone is fresh, you get more defensive stops, but when the ball control team has drives that are 15-19 plays long and eat up 8:00 minutes, The defense will tire. That tired defense kept us in the game, and they have in every game except 1. Ruff has done a great job, especially if you think they are just average. Any kid that plays at this level is not average because average kids couldn’t do what these kids do. My hat is off to everyone of those kids that put on that Double T bonnett, First team or last team, they are above average. You’ll find that average kid in front of a TV playing play station, eating a Big Mac and sipping a soda.
by dbled53 on Nov 15, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Average is lets say 70% of the total games played that we win. So 12 games x .70 = 8(8.4)
I’m not bashing the team here just stating we are an average team in the Big 12 south this season and that’s okay. I’m also assuming we win the next 2 to be average. Now if we loose 2 more and go 6-6 I would say we are a below average team this season. This is no personal attack on an individual player as you seem to think.
by Raider1992 on Nov 15, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Avg. in the Big12 South
Right , average would be 6-6. But that’s like saying hitting .300 in baseball is average. the Big 12 South is one tough hombre. I bet if you asked our opponents if they thought Tech was averageTeam you would find that we are above average and not many of would like a re-match. All but that one ugly loss came to a ranked team and on the road. But then again you said if we go 6-6 we are below average and if we win the next 2 (8-4) we would be average. Now I am no math major, but I do know that 1+1= 2. What do ya think?
by dbled53 on Nov 15, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see it that way...
If you were to ask most people I think they would agree Tech has a very average team this season and if they were to go 6-6 that would mean we have dropped substantially below what we have typically done in the past 9-10 years. So IMP I would still say Tech is average at 8-4 despite how close some games may have been. A loss is a loss no matter how you justify it. I agree the Big 12 south is extremely tough but we are no longer at the top of it. Agree to dissagree.
by Raider1992 on Nov 16, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone keeps talking about needing quarterbacks to step up next year.
And they do. But if the offensive line doesn’t make some major improvements over the offseason it wont matter who is back there. Pardon my anger, but they appear to be a bunch of random fat asses we found at McDonalds right now, and either cannot or will not move their feet and get in front of anyone. They stand there and hope the defender tries to go through them instead of around them. They are gentle giants. Moore needs to do something over the offseason, I just dont know what it could possibly be with this group.
by RdrPwr on Nov 15, 2009 3:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If there is an "anger managment reversal" class they should all enroll.
They should be spitting blood and foaming at the mouth for 4 quarters. I like Winn but he is way to “nice.” They all need to be mean and talk shit to the entire defensive front all night. I had some of the nastiest and meanest things said to me during football. I wonder if that trend was just at my highschool or if it still goes around.
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by KWashburn on Nov 15, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If there is an "anger managment reversal" class they should all enroll.
They should be spitting blood and foaming at the mouth for 4 quarters. I like Winn but he is way to “nice.” They all need to be mean and talk shit to the entire defensive front all night. I had some of the nastiest and meanest things said to me during football. I wonder if that trend was just at my highschool or if it still goes around.
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by KWashburn on Nov 15, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody but Potts will do the trick
I think the o line will improve. The problem is we chose the wrong QB to lead us this season. A fit Sheffield will do the trick. It’s beyond clear now that TP is not a Big XII caliber QB, Leach just needs to find someone else and fix the problem. Seth, Sticks, Karam anybody. O-Line will fall in place as they gain in experience
by jef on Nov 15, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Even sticks had his problems with the O-line. I really dont think it will matter too much next year what QB is back there if the line cant get them some protection. Foot work guys! Footwork!
by RdrPwr on Nov 15, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I was glad to see Sticks come in...
He shouldn’t even be on the field yet. Next year could be magical.
by VirtuaCory on Nov 15, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not Good Enough
Seth.
I agree Tech is "Not good enough" as demonstrated in the last game and it looks that way for the rest of this year. However I do not share your vision for next year. I see a "Not good enough" and uncertain future at Tech. I would like to view the future with the same rose colored outlook as you stated. I see a difficult time next year for the following reasons.
Texas ATM will be a lot better next year with the experience that there young freshman are developing this season. My point is that there young QB and freshman offensive and defensive lines whipped us in talent and effort in Lubbock no less.
Oklahoma will be a lot better with the experience they are getting this year. Oklahoma is developing a lot of five star talent and they have their QB of the future getting playing time in the program now not next year.
Texas is Texas with all cream recruits. TEXAS was able to played there future QB against Baylor. I expect Texas to continue developing their future QB for the remaining games on this year schedule.
OSU with all the Boone money are building there program to the next level. The fact is that they had the talent to beat us and they are on an equal talent level with Tech. Boone check book is making this a major program advantage over us.
Baylor as a program will be lot better with their now experienced freshman QB and with a healthy Griffin back as a leader.
Tech is faced with uncertainty at QB for next year. This painful since this year was to select & developed a QB for next year. The problem is that we had spent three years developing a potential QB now we are in a competition for a QB from a "not good enough" experience base. I also see "not good enough" players in OL and LB for next year. I think next year will be a good year for Tech with a bowl bid but not a trophy wining year.
by double-t on Nov 15, 2009 3:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with your Tech assessment. I do agree the rest of the conference will have improved (for some teams…I see Neb, UT, having some issues). Tech would have probably, probably been okay had Sheff not gotten hurt. Doege was clearly not ready, and Potts’ shortcomings played directly into the hands of a lousy offensive line.
Tech should be improved for a lot of the same reasons you listed for the others – improved experience with the young guys or guys who were just breaking into the lineup this season.
by Tech92 on Nov 15, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We aren't exactly standing still.
We are also making improvements as the season goes along.
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by KWashburn on Nov 15, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
double-t is an atm troll
double-t you seem to be an atm troll. Most of your comments have atm in them and you only make negative predictions about tech and positive predictions about atm. I suggest you worry more about atm and your coach Sherman for next year and let us worry about our team. I think we will be fine but will atm? I doubt
by jef on Nov 15, 2009 5:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
His English skills are a lot like agy too;)
by TT4EVER on Nov 15, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a atm troll. Just have a different paradigm from you.
by double-t on Nov 15, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As bad as I hate to say it,
aTm will be a lot better in the years to come. They started a ton of freshmen this year. No where to go but up with that kind of a team. If we work hard over the offseason, I really do see the big 12 south coming down to tech vs. aTm the next couple of years. My fingertips really hurt from typing those words, wow!
by RdrPwr on Nov 15, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true as far as freshman players...
but A&M lack huge in player development. That has been very evident not just under Sherman. Kines is a joke and I hope he sticks around as well. Lastly, we are fairly young also and I see our talent level improving every year with recruiting.
by Raider1992 on Nov 15, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"We are fairly young also"
which is a big reason why i believe we will be at the top for the next few years at least. aTm lacked player development under Fran, I dont see Sherman letting that happen. It’s a scary thought, but I do feel like Sherman will get them pointed in the right direction.
by RdrPwr on Nov 15, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nah, I seriously doubt it.
He’s hanging on for dear life at this point. A&M will do what they always do, fire the coach and blame the athletic board and administration. He won’t ever get the chance to build a team and do something with it. Slocum should still be there and he would be winning still….. I loved that guy and I hated to see him go.
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by KWashburn on Nov 16, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boy oh boy am I having a bad football weekend. First watching the loss live last night then hauling ace home to watch Dsllas show there ace. Hope the SNF tilt is more entertaining.
by Plano Jeff on Nov 15, 2009 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know that drive back...
had to be painful. I’m headed to Lubbock on Friday and I hope my Sunday ride home turns out better than yours was.
by Raider1992 on Nov 15, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
7-5, with a bowl loss=7-6
I am not at all expecting Tech to win out, although I WANT them to do so and win the bowl game as well, probably the Holiday or worst bowl game. I just don’t expect much, not now. Because of all of the lost players-regardless of why-and all the injuries, the team struggled to obtain some form of consistency. Also, with some of the freshmen also getting playing time, the experience this year suffered. It all added up to a worse year than I thought we would have. I disagree with those that say Potts is not D-1 QB material. I think the coaches just did not work properly with him to ensure he had good mechanics and tendencies prior to the start of the season. The rest of the year looks to be just as difficult due to all of the above reasons. Somehow, someway, the coaching needs to find what is needed to make this team jell. If they succeed, then Tech CAN finish the year at 9-4. If not, 7-6 is likely, maybe even 6-6 with no bowl invite…..now THAT would be tough, since they need one more win to actually qualify for a bowl because of them playing North Dakota. This team, at the start of the year had the talent and enough returnees to make a legit run for the Big-12 title. It just did not work out well. So, as Seth said,next year could be really good, but we will need to replace some quality DEs, again. Until next year arrives, though, I will be cheering on this year’s Red Raiders to finish with three wins to set them up for a much better 2010.
TTpilk
by TTpilk645 on Nov 15, 2009 7:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure one win is allowable over an FCS team to count towards bowl eligibility, so Tech already is bowl eligible. There are only a handful of teams (like Kansas State) that played 2 fcs teams, and therefore must make it to 7 wins. I’m about 95% sure about this rule.
And I don’t want to think about only being 6-6, but surely a lower tier bowl like the Texas Bowl would take Tech over some other teams that might be eligible like Iowa State, K-State, or Kansas, if that is what it came down to.
by pcrawttu on Nov 15, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
6-6
I can’t believe that’s even realistic…but it is…yikes.
by Tech92 on Nov 15, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s try and stay optimistic, though, and believe that the defense will come through against Baylor. I know their freshman qb has shown flashes of goodness, but remember that he is still a freshman and the defense has played well against MUCH better competition.
And hopefully Nick Potts will absorb some Jerry Jones power after stepping foot in the football palace of Arlington. Sure it is like making a deal with the devil, but I’m sure he is willing to absorb some everlasting evil for the sake of a win over Baylor and dodging the embarassment that would come with a loss.
by pcrawttu on Nov 16, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Finding out that, while 1 win over an FCS team can count toward eligibility, North Dakota may not count because they just recently moved to D-1AA and for a D-1AA team to count, they have to have used 90% of their available scholarships over the course of 2 years.
by kayakyakr on Nov 15, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t the rule stipulate you can use any non-DI win in a two year span as one of the six to qualify? Not sure on that, but I thought it was a rolling two year calendar. No clue about the D-II status, though. We haven’t had to use the exemption in two years.
by Tech92 on Nov 15, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The relevant rulebook. Check page “9”.
by kayakyakr on Nov 15, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we missed a field goal, threw an interception in the red zone, had a roughing the passer penalty and pass interference on fourth down continue a drive on which they eventually scored a touchdown, threw a pick six, and somehow still had a very realistic opportunity to win the game…if maturity allows us to stop hurting ourselves then next year should be a good one.
I still want to see more creative ways of getting the backs touches. I remember Jeffers gaining yards on his one touch and Eric Stephens looking good on a few carries.
by skin on Nov 16, 2009 1:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What a mess
Of a year. It will take quite a while to figure out exactly what to make of this year. Perhaps fortifying both lines should be a major priority?
by oldschoolraider on Nov 16, 2009 7:19 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Character = qualities of honesty, courage, or the like; integrity
Also defined as: the aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person or thing.
I raise the issue in regard to how our team finishes out the year. According to Don Williams, Tech officials have stated that the N. Dakota win won’t count so we need 1 more victory to become bowl eligable.
That said, I’m very interested to see how we finish the year. Not even a year ago that we gave an uninterested performance agaist Baylor and the Cotton Bowl performance was terrible.
We’ve probably all read quotes from players basically saying the team lost interest last year when they didn’t get to a BCS game. Now it’s going to be up to the players to find motivation to finish strong. If I’m coach Leach, I challenge each player and coach and basically say “this is where we get to find out what you are all about!”. Either show courage and fight your ass off, or live with regret on how the season has played out and mail it in.
Hopefully this is what happens and they use the remaining (hopefully) 3 games as positive experiences to build on for next season.
Wreck ’em!
by imisswesttexas on Nov 16, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Or How About ?
Either show courage and fight your ass off, or I’m going to be Bennie to roll your back side in the sand every day between now and Fall. ;-)
by TallMike on Nov 16, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this idea. Running your ass off always makes you a better player.
I’m being as serious as possible when I say this too.
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by KWashburn on Nov 16, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the whole OL needs to be in that sand after all the offside penalties and missed blocks.
by ST04 on Nov 17, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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