Texas Tech Basketball Preview :: Depth Charts and Looking Ahead to 2010 and 2011
With the football bye week, DTN is taking this opportunity to look at the men's basketball team. Earlier this week, DTN took a look at the preseason storylines and preseason team MVP's and today, DTN takes a look at the depth chart and the 2010 and 2011 recruiting classes.
Preseason Depth Chart
| Point Guard | Shooting Guard | Small Forward | Power Forward | Center |
| John Roberson (5-11/165; JR) |
Nick Okorie (6-1/195; SR) |
Mike Singletary (6-6/217) |
Brad Reese (6-6/189; JR) |
Robert Lewandowski (6-10/240; SO) |
| Mike Davis (6-2/185; FR) |
David Tairu (6-3/180; JR) |
Theron Jenkins (6-6/211; JR) |
D'Walyn Roberts (6-7/200; JR) |
Darko Cohadarevic (6-9/242; SR) |
| Wally Dunn (6-4/194; JR) |
Jaye Crockett (6-6/186; FR) |
Corbin Ray (6-7/225; SO) |
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| Trevor Cook (6-9/241; SR) |
This is an extremely rough estimation of where I could see things shaping up this year. Guessing as to a depth chart is a somewhat risky proposition because there are so many players that could flip-flop between positions and there are a number of players that fit a 6-5 to 6-7 range and could play multiple positions. I still think that at the end of this process, Pat Knight will play the players who play defense first, or at least that's my hope.
Follow me after the jump for a look at each position as well as a look at the 2010 and 2011 recruiting classes and the JUCO conundrum.
Positions:
Point Guard: The problem with this team is that the one true point guard is actually Roberson and I'm not sure if Pat Knight would agree with me, but Davis shouldn't play very much, especially when you have guys that can swing from shooting guard to point guard in Okorie and Tairu. If Davis play, it should be primarily in a backup role on a very limited basis. I do think that Davis is a guy that will push the ball and is a true threat to get to the rim. I like his upside (I like everyone's upside), but he shouldn't see a bunch of time.
Shooting Guard: This is where things get a bit sticky. I think Okorie and Tairu are essentially replacable players in that I think they'll do the same thing, but differently. Okorie represents an upgrade in athleticism at the shooting guard over Voskuil from last year and I think that Okorie can fill those scoring shoes, although his biggest problem is that he doesn't have the true shooting guard height, but in today's 3-guard offense, that's not a huge concern. Tairu and Okorie were backcourt mates at South Plains College and I think they work well together. Tairu is supposed to be more defensive minded, although he can certainly score.
Small Forward: This is where the logjam begins. Singletary and Jenkins are similar players from a physical standpoing, although I'd guess that Singletary has an edge on Jenkins based on his previous work on the Big 12. This team is littered with 6-5 to 6-7 small forward types and if Jenkins doesn't get time at the small forward spot I'm not sure he sees much time at all. Crockett is a project and I'd love to see him redshirt this year. He was a great scorer for his New Mexico squad and supposedly he is still growing. Let him take a year to learn and get bigger.
Power Forward: Again, mid-ranged athletes and I'm struggling to find the minutes. The only other solution would be if the centers didn't get all of the time at center and PK goes with a relatively small lineup. That really hurts from a rebounding perspective, but we'll see. In any event, I think Reese plays the power forward position in name only. He's truly a small forward, but I get the impression that he's more well-rounded than Jenkins and he's not afraid to mix it up offensively or defensively. Roberts continues to be a player that has all of the talent in the world, but has just never been consistent enough to get consistent minutes. He has all of the tools, except for a few extra pounds, to be a tremendous forward in the collegiate level. I'd love it if Roberts developed a low-post game over the summer. Ray is another combo forward and he has the bult to play power forward against most collegiate power forward, but I do worry a bit about his quickness. The one thing that I was impressed with Ray was his athleticism and shooting touch. Pretty nice for a forward. Cook gets on the list here simply because I still have questions about Cook's back, which kept him out all last year. Until I see him on the floor this year, I'm not going to count on him.
Center: I'll fully admit that Darko had a very rough first year on the college level. There were times that he couldn't his the backboard on shots, he worked hard, but was a liability defensively, and sometimes made really bad decisions on the floor. I've been praying, every night, that Darko has turned the corner. PK needs a big guy inside to go along with Lew and if Darko can give PK 10 to 15 minutes a night of good solid basketball, I'll be happy. I mentioned earlier in the week that I'd really look for Lew to make a jump in terms of his ability to contribute at the Big 12 level. He has good size, good mobility and a tremendous attitude. I think Lew wore down a bit as the season progressed, but he gave PK very solid minutes at the center position as a true freshman. Expect big things from Lew.
2010 Commits:
| Player | School | Ht/Wt | Rivals | ESPN | Scout |
| Paul Cooper | Gulf Coast JUCO | 6-8/260 | - | - | 1 |
| Javarez Willis | Pinkston HS | 5-11/170 | - | 82 | 1 |
| James Outler | Bellaire HS | 6-4/180 | 3 | 87 | 2 |
I think this class is essentially finished. There are 3 seniors on this year's team: Darko Cohadarevic, Trevor Cook and Nick Okorie. I'll have more on this below, but getting Cooper, a big man who apparently rebounds, is going to be big for PK because there's very little frontcourt depth behind Lew. Willis is spending the year at a prep school after failing to qualify from high school and having a guy that is a year more mature is an advantage for the Red Raiders. James Outler is a true shooting guard with athleticism, something that Texas Tech has not had in quite some time (I'm calling both Okorie and Tairu combination guards, not true shooting guards).
2011 Commits:
| Player | School | Ht/Wt | Rivals | ESPN | Scout |
| Kevin Wagner | Estacado HS | 5-8/145 | - | 40 | 1 |
This is about a good start to a class that I can envision. I'm very excited that PK was able to get a local player to commit to his program, and not only is it great that Wagner is local, but he's immensely talented. The 2011 class is going to be one of the bigger of the Pat Knight era because there are currently 7 juniors on this team, which means there should be 7 scholarships available (although I seem to recall something about a limit to the number of scholarships given out in a 2 year period). In any event, there will be plenty of holes to fill in this class, but the nice part is that all of the freshman from the 2009, 2010 and probably JUCO's of the 2011 class, will be more than ready to contribute to this team.
JUCO Conundrum:
I'm right there with you guys in terms of the issue as to how appropriate it is to sign JUCO players versus high school players. I've always thought that there's a balance that a coach has to weigh, which is winning quickly to satisfy a fanbase versus taking the time to build the program. Most coaches, Pat Knight included, tries to do both. I have no idea how long PK has on his contract and I'm guessing that if the losing continues, his leash may not be very long, which means that I can understand why he would go the JUCO route. If Knight goes only the high school route, then he could go through a period of really bad teams before making that eventual jump.
I have no doubt that Knight feels the pressure to win now, which is why I think you see an influx of JUCO players on this year's squad. He needs to show improvement and that he can get the job done. Quite a bit hinges on his 2009 recruiting class and their ability to contribute immediately. If you want to use a footblal analogy, Leach has utilized the JUCO player more often than not, especially to help build his program. It is a risky move, but it can pay off some times (McKinner Dixon of 2008 was unbelievable, but couldn't keep it together to play in 2009 vs. Daniel Howard and Brandon Sharpe, who have both been tremendous players and people for the football program).
We all need to watch the 2011 recruiting class and if there are 7 spots available, the ratio of JUCO players to high school players should tell us quite a bit about where Knight believes the program is. If PK is signing 1 JUCO player for every 2 high school players, like the 2010 class, then I'm okay with that. But if the ratio is more 1:1 then I think there's real concern about where things are going and his long-term strategy.
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Kevin Wagner
I dunno how getting him is big for recruiting. He’s from Lubbock ofcourse he’s gonna want to go to Tech. I think its funny how redraidersports claims BIG COMMIT, when hes only like 5’8 145lbs , real cool. At his size chances are he’s gonna be a mismatch on defense. Yeah the kid can dunk and has ups, but whats that really gonna do? Unless we get a 4 or 5 star i dunno how this is a big commit.
Kevin Wagner is a 4 or 5 star player. He’s also, apparently, hitting another growth spurt and is expected to grow to 5’10-6’ before he graduates. He was 5’6" last year.
I don’t know what you’re expecting, but it is a pretty big deal because this kid is going to have offers from just about everywhere.
He's 5'6" and can dunk?!
I have to see it to believe it. And Seth, im fairly certain that PK’s contract is up after this season unless he manages to get a contract extension. In order to get that he will have to run some zone against team that are obviously more athletic than we are…… just saying.
Dude, Spud Webb ring a bell?
5’2" and won the dunking contest at the All-Star Game Years ago. He also bagged groceries and went to JUCO here in Midland. Crazy stuff….
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They have footage of him dunking at a gym in Lubbock (i think). And if Spud Webb can play in the NBA for years and he’s smaller than Kevin then I dont really see the gripe. Give the kid a chance to get on campus and prove himself before we say he cant play. Just because he’s not 7’5", 350 lbs. you (jgnome) think he’s already a bust, thats not very fair. I’ve never met you, would that be fair for me to assume that your a loser, no. So relax, it’s just a game
JUCO players
The days of finding gems from the JUCO ranks are past. Yes, you can plug some holes with filler guys, but they rarely blossom past that. Not too long ago, JUCO programs were absolutely littered with future NBA players. Today, “prep” schools are siphoning these players away to get their grades/qualification in order rather than going the traditional JUCO route.
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It makes a lot of sense to me to bring in a JUCO, if he is first rate—I mean outstanding and you have a pretty strong group of players already. The classic example at TTU is Swoopes.
The football program is migrating to more HS players over Mike Leach’s tenure and it is showing on the field. Brandon Sharpe is a good example this year.
Coach Knight lost me when he recently commented that he would likely always recruit about 50% from JUCO’s. I don’t not agree with that philosphy…but he is HC at my mater so I hope the very best will happen.
Last season, Coach Knight made a comment about needing such and such for the team and his reply was something to the effect ‘well, we can always get a Juco’ or words to that effect. Couple that with the 50% comment and I am pretty sad.
I understand that there may be pressure to win, and I can get excited if we recruit JUCO players to win. Are we winning? Is the formula working? Is there really any input that says we are making such a difference in wins that the time lost in developing good HS players is worth those wins? Even if we suffer more losses, with a growing group of good players who we can see potential to be good players by their second or third year, it is easier to see the growth in a developing program.
Kevin Wagner we'll see
I’m not really sold on this kid and don’t think he is a big commit. He could be the next Benny Valentine, and we all know how that turned out. The kid plays for a 3A school in Texas, not to mention Lubbock which is terrible at basketball. If this kid can learn to shoot then I might be a little more happy but till then I am not sold on him yet.
He maybe good for a 3A Lubbock school but we still need to see.
He wouldn’t have committed this early if he had more offers. He would be taking more visits to see other schools. Another reason I don’t believe this is a big commit.
This is dumb.
He does have a number of offers, so now do you change your mind? List of offers:
Iowa State Medium None
Marquette Medium None
Oklahoma Medium None
South Florida Medium None
Southern Methodist Medium None
TCU Medium None
Texas A&M Medium None
Texas Tech COMMITTED (10/10/2009) None
Wichita State Medium None
So does he need more offers than this for this to mean that he’s not a big commitment? Your rational is flimsy. You’ve never seen him play, but you’ve already declared this to be a bad commitment b/c: he’s from Lubbock, Lubbock traditionally does not have good basketball players, he doesn’t have a lot of offers (only 9, so he must suck) and he’s currently short. Tremendous.
Go Raiders . . .
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those schools are good bro. Lets see him get looked at KU, Memphis, Kentucky, Louisville, MSU, any ACC school then we’ll talk. All those schools are garbage. If he was that good he wouldnt be goin to Tech. Tech bball blows, Pat Knight blows too. If he wants to get the spotlight and make the tourney he damn sure aint gonna do that at tech.
So if he’s just a sophomore and getting looks from the likes of OU (they’re pretty good) and Marquette then he’s probably doing okay. I appreciate all of your substantive analysis and continued comments like this really won’t be tolerated.
Go Raiders . . .
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That is odd
Where does it say he got offered by all those schools? That is just his interest list on Rivals, doesn’t mean he got offered by all of them. A&M didn’t even offer him because they already had their PG commit in Branch.
uuuuh
most of the offers he got are from garbage school anyways, Tech’s bball program sux no offense, and who would want to play for Pat Knight??? The only good schools he got offers from are Marquette and OU.
Kevin Wagner rating a 40 on ESPN
according to espn hes really good…….

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