I’m all for taking swings at the “show me state”. His comment isn’t even relevant.

I’m all for the general point he was trying to make, that (historically) the perception of academics in the Big Ten is generally perceived to be amongst the highest in the country. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with Seth here that education is relative, and each school’s own mission is unique, a fact that often doesn’t get treated with the respect it deserves. But, a lot of times, in education like in college football, perception IS reality, for better or worse. If people think you’re a better school, you start to reap the rewards. The Big Ten could do that for Mizzou, so his point is well taken in that regard.

But there was absolutely NO need to call out any schools in the Big 12. It devalued the point he was actually trying to make.

His own words reflect the quality of his education. If someone has to trash another to enhance their own value, they likely have little.

Regarding Seth’s comment vis a vis where one is educated. I took notice of the many other engineers that I worked with during my career based on where they earned their degrees. I saw no patterns. A good engineer was simply a good engineer. Some of the guys that I worked with who graduated from engineering schools with great reputations almost could not tie their shoes as engineers. Like most market branding, it is salesmanship to get one’s enrollment, and to place graduates…there is some value in that, but it does not make the player…we each have to do that one our own abilities.

I will be happy to see the game vs WSU completed, I am weary of reading about it. It is a good test for the Red Raiders, not much more than that, let’s get this one in the books.

Another good basketball test was passed last evening by the Lady Raiders. They finished the game vs UCLA at Pauley Pavilion winning by one. This is a very good win on the road for the Lady Raiders. Like the men, they are beginning to attract attention to their games.

All the talk about the Spartans and their reactions to their circumstantial roster losses give rise to thoughts of TTU earlier in the season when we played w/o any DE depth. Their circumstances can work in their favor as they rise to meet the occasion. Like a lot of these meetings, it often turns into who wants to play football that determines an outcome.

Out of thunder $&$'s &$. If the Big 12 gets 4 Texas schools and loses an also ran, that’s progress. It’s not like they’re Nebraska or OU. Academic reputation for a state school is bull shit. They all have to take so many in state kids. Academic reptation = me giving a turd what some left wing professor looks down his nose and thinks of me. F U Gubner O’ Missouri.

one word….recruiting…I looked at the current rosters of Missouri(Big 12) vs. Iowa(Big 10). I purposely excluded Ohio St. and Michigan for the reason that they are more nationally recognized and should be able to recruit on name alone.

Currently, Iowa has two players from Texas while Missouri has over 30. Don’t see the Texas pipeline continuing if Missouri moves to the Big 10. The data doesnt support it.

They’re all industrial diploma mills. Don’t start on research dollars, because if you’re getting a BA, you never get near that activity. Anyway, the real question is would you rather live in Missouri or Texas? With all due respect to Harry Truman, I’ll take Texas.

…Mizzou can whore themselves out all they want. If they think they can get a better deal in the Big 10, take it. I’ve got a feeling, they think they’re playing the Big 12 for fools right now. They need to think again.

Classic.

therefore I’ve spent entirely too much time there. “I’m not going to say anthing bad about” Mizzou, but I always feel that the level of intelligence has dropped signicantly once I get up there. A governor saying that only proves my point. Screw ’em, let them become the Baylor of the Big 10 (Minus any and all good academic reputations that is)

The gov of Missouri should know better than to name specific schools. I won’t sit here and try to defend the quality of education I received at Tech, nor will I try to downplay the quality of an education at another college. Like Seth said, it’s a circular argument that can’t really be won. Is it harder to get in to some places? Yes. Do some places get more research money? Yes. Do some places have faculty with degrees from other nice places? Yes. Does that make your education “better”? No. It makes it more marketable…but it’s what you do with the education once you leave that matters. I know a few folks from Sam Houston State -not considered elite ; ) – who are making an absolute killing with a technology company in Dallas. I mean, huge killing. Live in a 4,000 sq ft house in Northpark kind of killing. I also know a gal in our company who went to Dartmouth who is an absolute dolt and only keeps her job because she does just enough to not get fired.

The only place where the degree origin matters is networking. If you have a solid alumni base, it helps being connected. But the second a Mizzou grad leaves his state and heads to, say, Florida, the people down there have no clue if Mizzou is great or not. Nor do they really care. Can he do the job? Yes? Great, you’re hired.

I’ve never hired/not hired someone based on where the degree comes from. I could care less where they graduated, so long as they graduated (if the job requires it).

I know Missouri is a good school, but so are the rest of those in the Big-12. They all basically “teach” the same classes and distribute the same information. It is entirely upon the student to “get it”, no matter which school he/she attends. Despite the fact Governor Nixon desires Missouri’s affiliation to change from the Big-12 to the Big-“11”, he should never have made derogatory comments toward any other institutions. The ONLY reason the Big-“11” schools receive higher grades on education than the Big-12 schools is because most who rate such things come from the same general area-the north and east. I doubt any graduate of Texas Tech, UT, OU, OSU, A&M (Yes, even them), or any of the north schools, would be willing to exchange that degree with one from a Big-“11” school. No, the ONLY reason the “I cannot tell a lie” governor want the change is $$$ M $$$ O $$$ N $$$ E $$$ Y $$$. PERIOD! And like others above, I feel if Missouri were to leave the Big-12, their “LINK” to Texas would end and they would therefore struggle for survival in most sports. So, MU really needs to take a long look at this and reconsider such a move, for I feel that while they might be considered better academically after such a move, they will degrade big time in athletics, which helps in drawing the attention to them in the first place when their teams excel, which probably will not happen after a move.