BREAKING: Mike Leach Fired from Texas Tech
by Seth C on Dec 30, 2009 11:59 AM CST
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PrintBoth Pete Christy and Chris Level are reporting via Twitter that Mike Leach has been fired from Texas Tech. I really don't know what to say, I'm in complete and utter shock. I have more on this tonight.
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I'm with you 100 percent
Handled so very badly by everyone concerned it’s beyond words
by jeffinhouston on Dec 30, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like we need way more information about what’s going on. I refuse to believe this was just because Adam James or Mike fighting to be able to coach the bowl game.
I will be at
the Alamo Bowl. I hope they show meyers so we can boo him. But unless they release something big that we don’t know about, my support for TTU has ended until the current Admin is gone.
I agree
Unless there is something else that ttu gets out in the open immediately, I have lost any support for the admins and AD.
I'm turning in my guns
and walking away from a program I’ve loved for forty plus years.
Tech wrecked him…….
TJ
agreed, i just rent a letter to the red raider club telling them how i feel and to remove me from it
by RedRaider621 on Dec 30, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
I have no words...
no words at all…I may just be done with TT for a long, long time, i’ve never heard of such lunacy…
Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sooooooooooooo embarrassed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me too. completely embarrassed
What’s Craig James have to say for himself now?
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Loss of alumnus money
worth cutting some salary, if that’s what they are really doing? I have yet to renew my donation to the Alumni Association for the year and will refrain from doing so until some serious evidence comes out.
Yep..
I’d definitely jump ship for saner waters if I was just coming in. What the hell are these people thinking?
No, pay is optional.
And they don’t give out your email address either. Go sign it and just don’t pay them.
So much potential down the toilet
Bye-bye bowl eligibility streak.
My letter to Hance
It is being reported that Mike Leach has been fired. If true, I will still be at the Alamo Bowl to support the team, but unless something BIG comes out that is not currently public, my support for Texas Tech has ended in every way (Red Raider Club, Alumni Association, attendance at events, special fund raising campaigns……) as long as Meyers and Bailey are still employed by the university.
I am sickened by the way this has been handled and the way it has turned out, and I am extremely disappointed in the way it has been handled by you and the entire administration at Texas Tech.
RRDEW
Class of ‘89
It is embarrassing...
Unfortunately, it’s a common theme for Tech. I’m still angry about the accreditation debacle. Though still sans specifics, I’m sure many alumni will call for a systemic purging of the university.
I'd like to see Ruffin resign
assuming something isn’t released that supports this action
So who is our next coach?
Will we bring in Sonny Dykes? Would one of the ex-NFL coaches have any interest? Oh yea, I forgot. They would have to work with Gerald Myers.
He could have been wearing a evening dress and beanie with a spinning propeller, and it wouldn’t have changed the results.
by ForestFlyer on Dec 30, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
What the hell is going on up there???
They had better get out in front of this and I mean quickly! This just sucks. Mark down this date as a day that our program took a huge step backward.
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions
Absolutely Un-Fu$%ing Believeable
Yeah I’m a Tech fan, but Tech is dead to me right now. Leach turned our program around and didn’t get treated fairly last year w/ the BS Myers gave him w/ the extension signing ultimatum. While that little saga was unbelieveable, I have no words to describe this freakin saga over the last couple days….
There better be one hell of a march/revolution on campus over this! Hopefully there’s more to the story than Myers on a power trip and Adam’s pansy dad taking after his little princess…. UGGGGGHHHHH
Fuck me......
Piece if shit Myers. I can’t believe this…..
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
LOL
was wondering why KWash was suspeciously quiet on this. But all my concerns were washed away with his post.
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
I've been in Calgary with little to no internet. I just got in last night, to this shit.....
I’m pretty sure I’m about to drive to Lubbock and do something real stupid……
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
stunning
there are no words to describe my confusion and frustration right now.
by mojavereject on Dec 30, 2009 12:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
convince the band to burn his effigy in the middle of the Alamo Bowl during halftime.
by ForestFlyer on Dec 30, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
I have no Choice but to Boycott
One of my good friends, his girlfriend, my wife, and myself were all going to make the trip to SA this weekend to watch the game, and then drive home the same night. But as a result of Myers’ stupidity, we’re now boycotting. I had planned to buy season tickets next year (could not afford to do so this year), and travel to all of the home games from DFW where I currently live, but no more. Thanks Myers, I hope you’re fired as you have just done irreparable damage to the Texas Tech Football program, Texas Tech’s flagship athletic program. The same program that inspired the numerous Tech Alumni from across the states to put Double T Medallions on their car, post flags outside their houses, and show their colors at work. The effects of this will be felt for years to come.
If you already have tickets, don’t not go. You should still go to support your team, just not your university.
No need.
All have lost faith. Will we still win the game, yes, I believe so. Will that change the way we feel, no, it won’t. Our ire with Myers began around the contract negotiation time, this just solidified and completed our disdain for him.
GO TO ALAMO BOWL , PLLLEEESE
It is the best thing right now for the players. . . they worked hard all year for this while Adam James was loafing. If he went home everyone would feel better I am sure , because everytime they look at him how can they think ENTHUSIASM, TEAMWORK, HONOR!
Also the tortillas are making a comeback with his name. This time he really may want to find a tight closet! More dumb advice his parents gave him==stay and play in the game AAAARRRGGG.
by BiggestRaiderFan on Dec 31, 2009 4:28 AM CST up reply actions
I might practice my 2010 boycott
by boycotting the 1st quarter of the bowl game
I’ll be the guy drinking beer outside
totally
rarely has the phrase “cutting off your nose to spite your face” been a more appropriate description
by mojavereject on Dec 30, 2009 12:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I am done.
Until myers and Bailey are gone, I will be adopting whatever school LEach ends up at. I encourage everyone else to follow.
Back
to being a women’s basketball school.
by OmahaRedRaider on Dec 30, 2009 12:28 PM CST reply actions
really?
realy meyers? really administration? you let go the winningest coach in TTU football history just to cowtow to the james family cuz leach was teaching a lesson to adam james? im speechless….i wont be attending any home games this coming season, or any after what transpired today.
Fuck meyers
I WILL NOT...
Be contributing to the Texas Tech Alumni Association from this point forward, or until Gerald Myers resigns as AD. The way this was handled was unprofessional at best, and if this is how our administration thanks one of the best coaches in the land and their loyal alumni and fanbase well then F*CK THEM!!! Damn I’m pissed!
Boycott the first quarter
All supportive Tech fans should stay out of the stands to show solidarity and support for Leach. Let it be seen on a national stage!
TJ
by TeejMc3 on Dec 30, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
we
can’t go to any games, buy any merchandise, and etc. until the admn. feel the repercussions of their mistake.
by OmahaRedRaider on Dec 30, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions
Sad
Really sad for the conference as we lose a character. One of the few guys who made this conference entertaining in an off the field sense Hate to say it but welcome back to mediocrity Tech. I bet you Mack Brown, Bob Stoops and Aggie just took a huge sigh of relief knowing that the biannual trip to Lubbock just got a lot easier.
There was a firefight!!!!
What we need is a t-shirt burning party
On campus and in seperate cities organized by alum groups . Burn the merchandise and don’t buy any more.
I’m sending all my crap to my little cousin who just applied there and got accepted.
My kids are both going to University of Texas at Austin.
by WreckerRaider on Dec 30, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
cmon dawg
aww cmon you can’t do that….
times are rough right now but fans can’t jump ship.
If anything we should buy TONS of Tech stuff, we’re gonna need the revenue, haha!
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by Cicero4PatPro on Dec 30, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
James isn't to blame
The administration or whoever made this decision was just looking for an out to fire the guy. You guys can blame the James clan all you want, but Tech was looking for a reason to fire Leach.
There was a firefight!!!!
And they gave it to him
You really think this happens if Craig James doesn’t dish this out on ESPN. Give me a freaking break. They are EXACTLY who I blame along with the Administration.
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
It would happened eventually
Ever since last year, it was inevitable in my opinion. If not for the James situation, they could have fired him like the Boston College’s Jeff agodzinski for interviewing somewhere else or looking at another job. They would have found something.
There was a firefight!!!!
by ThePhenomenon on Dec 30, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I like the first Quarter boycott!!!!
Come in late!!!!!!! This is unbelievable and we just can’t stand properity!!!!! Back to the days of Jerry Moore and I was there!!!!! Very, Very, Very, Very BAD!!!!!!
Defensive Revolution
For all us young Alumni (2000 and up) this is a hard pill to swallow. Since we’re the breadwinners that are supposed to donate for the next 40 years, we need to let the feelings about Meyers and other Admins be known or we’re doomed to the mediocrity they prefer. We’ve been talking about the defensive revolution on here and it looks like it’s gonna need to start earlier than planned. I’m as mad as the next Raider right now, but I think if we can retain Ruffin and get a capable HC quickly we could at least keep some defensive recruits. This seems like an equally ambiguous screw up from Meyers, Leach, and the James idiots so why not cut ties from all three parties?
Im down to be a Florida State fan how bout yall?
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I won't be satisfied...
until there’s a throrough purging within the university. This goes far beyond football.
TO ALL who are going to stop financially supporting our school
Quick note to request that anyone that is going to stop sending money to the various areas of Tech.
PLEASE, PLEASE I urge you to send a letter explaining exactly why you are withholding any future contributions.
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions
I want them to know it is b/c of Myers, Admin and this specific decision!
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I already sent that exact e-mail to Hance and Bailey
The header read: “You can add another $5000 PA you won’t ever see again to the total”.
I may have hurt my cause by having the body of the message read “You f***ing morons”. What can I say, it was a first reaction. Go Horns.
Art is just ok
Art has huge RR ties but he is not the answer but Admin. will low ball this and we are big trouble!!!!!! Sonny Dykes here we come!!!!! Aweful!!!!
Email Kent Hance and demand a full accounting of the evidence against Leach. I am working on a FOIA request for their emails related to this.
I like that!
There has to more to this story. If he is being fired for mistreating a player, then don’t they need to show proof of what he has done? I thought this was still an investigation.
by Tech-ex: JB on Dec 30, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I’m too pissed to write a rational letter…can someone email me their letter so I can just email it from my account? I’ll add in my personal thoughts…but i think we’re all on the same page. Send to ch_austin@hotmail.com
by WreckerRaider on Dec 30, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'll be using Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator
http://www.pakin.org/complaint
I honestly don’t have the words myself and I don;t think they’d read them anyways.
Does this seem like V For Vendetta? We should all wear pirate attire to the games.
by techfan5730 on Dec 30, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not giving up my pirate attitude
I hope the community can keep it up, if not for Leach respect, but for a sense of tradition
by kevinkinsler on Dec 30, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks Tech92......
Leach better have really broke state/federal laws other wise this is only about cry babies and Leach haters!!!!
For years I have tried to defend Lubbock and Texas Tech that we are a modern school with new age thinking, but today this just shows that the city of Lubbock and the Tech administrators are a bunch of one-dimensional thinkers ran by good ol’ boys and farmers. So they can’t handle an outside the box coach, so what do they do…..find some BS way to fire him and now they can bring back in another good ol’ boy.
THank you Tech for running off this fan of 25 years!
by WreckerRaider on Dec 30, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Did you guys hear? Level says that Sonny Dykes has already said he would take a low salary in order to get a great defensive coordinator.
ruffin-
great guy, but leading an average defense (at best) doesn’t mean he should get promoted.
by OmahaRedRaider on Dec 30, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions
Stunned right now. Just stunned.
What the hell is up with your athletic director? Why did Leach hire the Gorilla lawyer? So many questions, so few answers. Damn. Sorry, fellas, best of luck in the bowl game.
Man if this had happened during the semester...
I would expect the streets of Lubbock would look somewhat similar to those in Baghdad. Im thinkin Gerald Myers should probably consider witness protection before the Spring. Its gonna get ugly in West Texas!!
Spike Dykes son...
I loved Spike but it time to move on….see how long it took for Alabama to let the Bear die! We don’t need a recycled Dykes!!!
Season Ticket Renewals
I’m really anxious to see how few renewals they get, and how many of these new seat actually get filled.
Anyone else feel like the stadium expansion is going to be like the housing crisis, in that all this expansion was done assuming continued growth and expansion, then BOOM, it fails.
It's official
I’m not getting any work done today.
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:49 PM CST reply actions
In a time of certain frustration for DTN...
… everyone needs to take a moment to Rec the hell out of this comment.
Hell, I came over from RMN just to rec this one.
"Put. That coffee. Down. Coffee is for closers." ~ Blake (Alec Baldwin), Glengarry Glen Ross
The hell with next year
Someone put that on a big poster for the Alamo Bowl!!!!!
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt game day comes here for a very long time
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
HAHAHAHA!!!
A much needed laugh, thanks porters.
On another note, I’m in dire need of some Kentucky Deluxe.
just made this... you inspired me
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
by redraidersax on Dec 30, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
you forgot to call it gitmo...
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
by redraidersax on Dec 30, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
I could care less who the coach is going to be
What I do care about is the truth about this whole clusterf*ck. I want names, dates, pictures, testimony of little fat girlfriends, and I want it all out in the open so that whoever the next stupid sombitch that is fool enough to come here as a football coach gets to smell what he is stepping into.
(unless you can bring Tom Landry back from the dead)
HELL WHY NOT BRING BACK JERRY MOORE!
I cannot believe this is happening. Wake me up this is a bad dream. Good Job James Family.
American farmers feed & clothe the world!
What about June Jones...
How funny would it be if Leach was replaced with June Jones from SMU and the daddy James will have screwed SMU again!! Bad KARMA!!
I really hate..
that I keep hearing Sonny Dyke’s name. Nothing against Sonny, but the mere mention of his name suggest that this entire debacle was engineered by some “Old Guard” faction within the university. Leach brought a fresh face to Texas Tech. He promoted the school. Texas Tech was no longer only a state school nestled among the cotton fields of remote Lubbock. I don’t mean to overstate the case, but Leach did change the public’s impression of the university, and the region. He changed things. I hate to think that all of this is a result of the action of some rigid-minded “Old Guard” that resented that change.
You took the words right out of my mouth Forestflyer.
by WreckerRaider on Dec 30, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, a few options
Gus Malzahn – Auburn OC (it’d be a stepping stone, but that’s life)
Hal Mumme – he helped start this whole spread thing
Tulsa’s coach
I hate to throw out the race card…..but do you guys seeing these “farmers” in administration bringing in an African American coach. For the record, I would be excited about Sumlin.
by WreckerRaider on Dec 30, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
There's no way we're getting Sumlin.
It’s gonna be Sonny or some other “Good ’ol boy”
Time to trade in my Tech football stuff for basketball attire.
by techfan5730 on Dec 30, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
I was suggesting the same thing on BON
And someone pointed out the race issue, which I admit I had not considered. I guess some of the good ol’ boys might not be up for such a radical idea as a black guy knowing a thing or two about football.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 30, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone sees us as a stepping stone now.
by techfan5730 on Dec 30, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Hell No. Please don't root for this.
Besides, he just signed an extension.
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
right, because what we have learned through all of this is that extensions mean something… sigh
by RedRaider621 on Dec 30, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
because we have a bunch of country simple minded bumpkins running things
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
some Cowboys fans are still upset about Tom Landry
by kevinkinsler on Dec 30, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
+1
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by Cicero4PatPro on Dec 30, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
The lawsuit
I can’t image the lawsuit the university is going to get from Leach over the firing. He’s not just gonna walk away from this. Lost coach, lost recruits, lost lots of money, lost what respect we had.
coaches
all of the coaches that have been mentioned suck in my opinion. I know options are slim, but this is serious down-grading.
Again I was there in 1977.....
Steve Sloan set us up but it took us 10 years just to have a winning season! So get ready!
Hey 5730 tone it down
If anything happens, they will come looking for you because of your comments.
by Arizona Raider on Dec 30, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
At the time last fall, I thought it was the all time high point for Tech Football
And that it would be all downhill from here. I had no idea the trip down the hill would be so steep:
http://sportsnation.espn.go.com/fans/mbrown603/images/1268462
That was a great night.
Absurd.
That James kid is going to withdraw from Tech. No way he survives a semester on campus there after this.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 30, 2009 1:05 PM CST reply actions
Wow that is not what I was getting at.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 30, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
I don't wish physical harm to him or Craig James
But I am hoping for a lot of guilt and sleepless nights for a long time. That would be okay with me.
Can't imagine what I would say if this happened at Texas.
Leach is an amazing coach who did not deserve this.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 30, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
So what do season tickets cost in Austin these days?
It’s a 3 hour drive rather than a plane flight from Dallas, so that’s nice. Plus they don’t seem bothered by success in Austin the way the Tech Administration is.
i'll take
the physical harm. What do i do with all of my pirate gear?
Sorry Raiders
Bad day for coaches everywhere!
(Little leauge Dad’s are happy though)
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Briles
First of all, this entire situation sucks. I have always been a Leach supported and think the school mishandled this badly (unless new information is disclosed).
We’ve got to move forward now and I think Briles should be our guy. Fiirst and most importantly, look at what he did at UH and Baylor. Next, he is one of us and is likely not to see the job as a steppoing stone to something else.
Whatever happens, it will be weird not seeing the Captain on the sidelines.
Adam James...
James’ Facebook must be blowing up because he has taken down his “wall” and that just happened this morning so things are really blowing up!
+1000 probably will be a candidate why not sheryl swoops
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
If I was there
I’d be stalking the administration building with burning torch, a flint pistol, and a huge sabre.
God love her
My wife just texted me and said Leach will go to aTm in two years and run it up on us every year. I love her.
If you think the Rednecks in charge at Tech can't handle Mike Leach
Imagine how freaked out the Junior Nazis at A&M would be by him.
great stuff...
…while that would make me physically ill, i wouldn’t blame leach one bit…
by ATLRedRaider on Dec 30, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
FDR had this to say:
Today, Dec. 30, 2009 – a date which will live in infamy – the Coach of Texas Tech Football, Mike Leach, was suddenly and deliberately attacked by the axis of evil, otherwise known as a puss named Adam James, his nutless Daddy Craig, and the incompetence that is the Texas Tech Administration.
Any thoughts on where Leach ends up?..I know it’s kinda early to speculate, just curious of how you guys think this will play out eventually.
love that!
Best coach suggestion so far, Omaha!
"Fearless champions ever be; Stand on heights of victory"
by Let's Go Tech! on Dec 30, 2009 1:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I kinda feel bad for the James family
It seems that Craig James really liked Texas Tech and really only wanted an apology for what he thought was a mistreatment of his son. Tech jumped at the oppurtunity to use this to finally have something on Leach to fire him. Now everyone at Tech associates Leach firing to a soft son and pansy father.
An apology from Leach ==> Firing by administration.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 30, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
our admn
can stick by bob knight when he grabbed prince by the neck, but they can’t stick by the captain putting a concussed pussy in an equipment garage and a media room?
Don't feel bad for the James'....
Craig had the chance last nite to quiet all this but all he could say was that he was making sure his son was safe!!! So don’t believe a “Pruna” that helped them get the death penalty!!!
I'm impressed
That Craig James could bring down two fairly powerful football programs in less than a 20 year span. That’s tough to do!
Rumor
There’s a rumor floating that Ruffin quit today…no verification, but I heard it twice from two people I trust in SA.
I hope that's not true... unless he put in that he would quit after the bowl
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
by redraidersax on Dec 30, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
I would hope he would not quit on his kids. He seems to have a pretty close relationship with his players, especially the guys on defense.
by BTownTechster on Dec 30, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
Am I the only one that thinks it is too early for a coach (ex: Sonny Dykes) to comment on this opening?
The Tech Admin deserves him
If ruffin quit...
i won’t feel bad for rooting for michigan st.
By the way
All the player emails we’ve seen posted around the web are real. Eric Morris confirmed it to the AP today.
Snippet
Several former and current Texas Tech players and coaches defended Leach and harshly criticized James’ work ethic in e-mails obtained by CBSSports.com.
Among those were former Texas Tech wide receiver Eric Morris, who wrote that James was “never known as a hard worker” and “seemed to have a negative attitude toward the football program the majority of the time.”
Morris told The Associated Press on Wednesday the letters were written as school administrators began looking into the incident, before Leach was suspended. Morris said they wanted to show their support for Leach and show James’ possible motives.
Morris said he spoke with Leach as the incident began unfolding.
“He told me he would never do anything” to harm a player, Morris said. “He was trying to hold someone accountable.”
I am getting really pissed at KTTU 104.3 . . .
with their steadfast deflection of all the callers expressing frustration with the administration. Does anyone else have a stream for a station that isn’t afraid to take a position?
Don't want to use my tickets to the alamo bowl
make an offer
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 1:32 PM CST reply actions
You pay me $12.00 and I'll pinch a loaf on them and send them to Myers.
I worded that as “classy” as I possibly can right now.
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
Now that Leach has been officially fired, how long until we can hear from the current players on the team? How many from our coaching staff will leave now? How many of the current players will leave now?
Now with Leach fired, how soon with the Tech players start expressing their hate for Gerald Myers on Twitter?
And the life lesson here is.....
Dont work hard, it’s always someone else’s fault for your failure to succeed and let your parents fight your battles…..
Wow. Surely you must be kidding. Your going to equal our current president with a college kid with a concussion.
Wow - please -
Get a grip, blackbeard – talk about embarassing!
"Fearless champions ever be; Stand on heights of victory"
by Let's Go Tech! on Dec 30, 2009 1:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Break a rule
Okay, I’m breaking a rule…from a pay site…
Kedrick Dial confirmed that he is still committed to play at Texas Tech.
yes but lets hear from the offensive side of the ball
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
dykes?
can marsha sharp coach football?
by OmahaRedRaider on Dec 30, 2009 1:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
by redraidersax on Dec 30, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Lee Corso called Craig/Adam James pansies
by Tech92 on Dec 30, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No way....
I may have to take back some of the evil crap I’ve said about him…
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Man I love Corso if he really said that
Somebody at ESPN needs to stop kissing the James’ family’s asses.
Can you provide a link or proof of this?
Quick google search turned up nothing. I’d love to see/read this.
are you serious???
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
by redraidersax on Dec 30, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Sumlin wanted the Kansas job, apparently. Maybe Tech isn’t out of the bidding for at least one solid guy.
I was just going to say, I bet Sumlin will be hired. I hope Leach goes to A&M.
by Jason Roberts on Dec 30, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
nope, they hate him there
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
by redraidersax on Dec 30, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Holy Sh-t. Bummer, Tech Fans.
Leach fired for making a player stand in a shed? Oh my God. Quite possibly the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Can you imagine what they would have done with guys like Bear Bryant back in the day? Leach is probably the best coach Tech has ever had or will have, and to fire him over this is, quite possibly, the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
In-VINCE-able.
Texas Tech Administration
have managed to fire the single most important asset the school has ever had, alienate and IGNORE its ENTIRE fanbase and alumni, and completely destroy any shred of credibility they have ever had….IN LESS THAN 3 DAYS!
You have to at least give them credit for that….there is no other administration anywhere that could screw something up this bad and this quickly!
Congrats Gerald Myers….just when everyone thought you couldn’t possible become more popular…you called us and raised us a complete extinction of our football program.
I already bought tickets so I will attend the Alamo Bowl. But I refuse to attend another Tech football game until Gerald Myers leaves the school and checks in to a nursing home.
I have too.....but why should we attend
I really am asking, can we stick it to them more if we show up and do something or if we don’t show?
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'm showing up because I paid 300$ for 4 tickets....
But definitely wouldn’t have spent $5 on tickets had I known our slime-ball administrators were going to pull this bush-league BS.
I will go and support our players and coaches…who are really just innocent bystanders here and deserve the support right now.
but I will not support Tech athletics again until major changes are made at the top.
I'm Absolutely sick over this
I guess the administration likes Tech at the bottom. What a bunch of simple minded stupid fuking idiots. Why not just make Spike the coach agian and keep the admin. happy. Just a bunch of morons!
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
Party at A&M
Can you imagine the party going on in College Station right now??? The bars will probably stay open until like midnight tonight….
I always found full time tailgating kind of stupid
You know, show up 4 hours before the game & never leave the parking lot to actually go into the game. But I may just try it next season. I still enjoy visiting my friends in Lubbock, but I’ll be damned if I’m giving the Texas Tech athletic department another penny.
Major League - Randy Quaid
Im considering becoming the Anti-Tech fan, see Major League- Hardcore Indians fan turned Anti-Indians fan
Good Lord, you're more optomistic than I am....
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
unless leach coaches at one of those schools...
Wreck 'Em Tech!
J.T.H.
by redraidersax on Dec 30, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
How bout Jerry Moore from Appy state
He was there when I started Tech in 83
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 1:47 PM CST reply actions
Yes....I was there
although his daughter was pretty hot
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
Bruce Feldman
He spoke to Leach today…he’s stunned by all this…thinks this has been brewing for a few years…may not get to address his team one final time…Tech probably violated his contract by not following his 10-day due process clause
Has there ever been
a more corrupt, low ball move in the history of sports?
Only thing that come to mind is packing up the colts overnight and shipping them to a new city….
but even that doesn’t seem as cold, cheap and bush league as this move
Having just finished a most wonderful Christmas
by having all my children come home, spend time around the fire, and watched “White Christmas”……………..
“We’ll follow the old man whereever he wants to go, whatever he wants to do…..”
Hance has to do something
to tell us why the hell they did this…….right?
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions
Please send an email............
Here is the website links to email addresses for the entire Athletic Department
http://www.texastech.com/school-bio/text-directory.html
Please notice that Meyers doens’t have a link. I sent an email and copied every email name on the list. We all need to send our support for Leach and the football program and explain how Meyers will affect future recruiting and donor support
Tech e-mail addresses aren't hard to guess at
gerald.meyers@ttu.edu should do the trick. Not that he’ll read anything coming in today. He’d have to be a masochist to open his inbox now.
They don't read those inboxes
Their secretaries/assistants read that crap. I have written to my school president and certain positions high up in the administration and they never reply or even read. Just a waste of your time.
There was a firefight!!!!
by ThePhenomenon on Dec 30, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Not a good day to be a red raider...
we are in for a long haul folks. We just threw away our best recruiting class and coach all in one day. I am ashamed of what we have as far as administrators for our school. How could they be so fucking stupid and I mean really fucking stupid? I don’t even know what to say anymore.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
I don't even want to use the collective "We" in reference to Tech anymore
What kind of morons does Tech have in the Board of Regents & the administration?
too emotional now….send me the email you sent and I’ll forward. send to ch_austin@hotmail.com
I can't believe
I can’t believe that they allowed a student athlete and his parent to dictate and downgrade an entire top 25 football program. I’m hating life right now and just had an extremely stout martini at lunch.
Bring on june jones
IF there is any justice to come out of this
Texas Tech will be playing in Leach Stadium next year as he should own the place by then. Fuck ’em.
My afternoon from here...
1. going to drop a deuce
2. leaving work early and drinking beer on the way (don’t worry, i take public transportation)
3. polishing off a bottle of booze
4. Burning a teddy bear with a longhorn on it that my brother in law gave my daughter as a joke (needs to be done anyway)
5. after that? i guess we’ll have to see what happens……………………
by ATLRedRaider on Dec 30, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Here
Is Tech’s response to the injunction request, with attachments. I am no lawyer, and I don’t know if they have to address anything but Leach’s appeal, but from the looks of this, the only issue at hand was the Adam James issue, nothing more.
Other than the fact that the AG's office failed to authenticate their "exhibits"
with a sworn affidavit, and the fact that there is nothing proving that Leach actually did the things the “player” had accused him of, a very fine piece of writing by the assistant AG.
by jeffinhouston on Dec 30, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
This is very unfortunate
Even though I am a hardcore Sooner fan (and really didn’t appreciate that horrible beating you gave us a few weeks back), I am shocked and appalled by this. Most of us have heard nothing substantive about the circumstances around this situation…I didn’t even know the whole “shed” thing until I was going through some of the articles on here about this deal.
Mike Leach is a great coach and deserved a lot better. What’s more, he really seemed like he wanted to stick around at TTU, something your admin folks might want to remember down the line. It was great to see what he had done for your program. I really feel for you guys. I hope you get another good coach who you can appreciate and enjoy as much as Leach, who can continue to make your team competitive. Your admin really didn’t know what they had…and I’m afraid they’re going to learn, very quickly.
Thank you.
Total class coming from a rival fan. This hurts…really bad. Good to hear sympathy rather than rivals coming to kick you when you’re down.
Sooners Class
Thanks, Man. I was expecting to see other schools rubbing it in. Its awesome to see the support. It is much appreciated.
TJ
Well...
If this has been a certain OTHER Texas program, know for its horrible bovine mascot and hideous taste in color schemes, I WOULD be rubbing it in…with sandpaper and lemon juice, no less. ;-) However, I have a much greater respect for the other Texas programs…besides, you guys helped lift the conference to greater heights, and it’s always bad to see a good program and a good coach get dealt a blow like this, for purely political reasons. As I said, you guys deserve better, and Mike Leach deserved better. I will be greatly interested to see what else comes out of this.
Trust me
It’s hard to find many Longhorn fans who think this is a good thing. Like Leach or not, he was good for Tech which made him good for the Big 12 conference as a whole.
by Hookem4life84 on Dec 30, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm...
Maybe 2010 WILL be an amazing new year…I never thought I’d agree with a Longhorn fan on ANYTHING. :-D
sad to hear this
although you could see this coming for awhile, going back to the contentious situation last year
PLANS FOR THE ALAMO BOWL
To all who are going or planned to go:
Please go to the game, but instead of wearing your normal TT gear wear nothing but pirate stuff! wear hats! wave flags! It will be funny and just what Coach Leach would want, and would show solidarity to the coach and the team.
ok, now i’m off to drink.
I can't help but think of the similarity
this has to Coach Knight’s firing at Indiana. Beloved by the fans, hated by the administration for untraditional methods. Fired without just cause creating an enormous backlash from the fanbase.
How ironic is it then that Meyers was the one to give Knight a second chance but then chase Leach off in an almost identical way….
Meyers isn't smart enough to understand irony
I’m still at a loss why Meyers wasn’t let go after botching the contract negotiations last spring. Isn’t anybody with a brain cell in a position of authority at this university?
I am an Indian grad...
I played in the basketball band for five years, including the NCAA championship. Grieved over Knight’s firing and then followed him to Tech. Now my daughter is a Senior in the Goin’ Band. Just dropped her off at the band bus to San Antonio. She gets to spend the next few days hanging out with some of the best kids in the world, and they are all pissed. Man, am I embarrassed as hell.
I look forward to following Coach Leach’s next team.
Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot
by Goin' Band Fan on Dec 30, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Love him or hate him
Knight is a genius. He did let his temper get the best of him and it got him fired. The difference is that he was placed on public probation, and then he gave them cause. Coach Leach has had no similar due process.
by Goin' Band Fan on Dec 30, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Just a gut feeling but...
I truly think the “NICK” jersey name change for Potts rubbed the right people the wrong way!!? I mean in a one more goofy thing out of him and he is done kind of way. I mean a fear of a law suit kind of way.
Stack a little barn and press room concussion treatment on ESPN’s kid and BAM you’ve got the sick, bullsh_t justification and “Final Straw” to Fire the winningest coach in Tech history!
What a rail-roading!
I think it was
The “fat little girlfriends” comment that was the final straw and then baby james was the nail in the coffin for Meyers in terms of an excuse
Can't we work on a 1st Quarter Boycott for the Alamo Bowl?
Wouldn’t it be a statement to see mostly empty stands on national TV and then pan to a Leach fan-base full parking lot? And then fans filing in at the beginning of the second. Am I off base?
TJ
Remember this is ESPenis doing the game
It will be interesting as to how this classless bunch of morons handle the telecast
Unfortunately,
I think this would be punishing the players in the process. I agree with your cause, but I’ll be at the game and support this team, which is LEACH’s team…not Meyers’ and Bailey’s. But I refuse to affilitate myself with Tech until both Meyers and Bailey are gone.
ESPN cameras will never show that.
I will be in the stands because the Goin’ Band will be doing a version of their pregame. Those kids, along with the team, staff, cheerleaders, dance team, Raider Red, and the Masked Rider, and everyone one of us is Texas Tech. Wreck ’Em!
by Goin' Band Fan on Dec 30, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
Is anybody else ignoring their cell phone today?
I really don’t want to talk to my Longhorn brother-in-law just yet.
I retaliated in an very irrational way towards my father. He asked for it.
I answer every phone call and let them say whatever they want, and then I reply with a very proper, “f*** you, go eat a d***, have a nice day”
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
Dear Gerald Meyers,
The phrase “Wreck’em Tech” was not intended for you to literally “Wreck” our entire athletic program into an A&M-esque downward spiral into oblivion.
10 years in the making
They finally did it. Had Leach followed around town early on. Tried to run him out during contract negotiations. But they finally got their thrown chair courtesy of Craig James.
It took 10 years for all those letters Art Briles wrote to the Regents and Admin on how Leach wasn’t fit to be the head coach of Texas Tech to come home to roost, but here we are.
Lesson learned. Don’t piss off Hance’s wife at a cocktail party.
There better laws broken here...
I know it seems some players are supporting James, but I’m sure they don’t like his methods but I really need to proof he did something wrong not just hard or unorthodox. And I fear the Admin. that brought us this debacle will bring us another Coach debacle!
Wreck’Em Tech(has a whole new meaning?)
I doubt
Adam James will like the reception he’s going to get at the Alamo Bowl.
At this point, it seems a little bit silly for him to dress for this game. I cannot imagine he’ll be attending this school next semester.
by BTownTechster on Dec 30, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
No
No way in hell this kid goes to the game. No way in hell they would even let him on the bus….
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
He's already there. He's just not suited up.
He might want to get a suit of armor.
start him
and send him over the middle over and over and over again!
Anyone read Exhibit A from Tech's response???
Tech92 posted above.
This is clearly some time in the making. No way in hell coach Leach would sign that and I don’t blame him!
“In addition to being unacceptable, if proven, these allegations constitute a breach of your employment contract.”
Also, the fact that item 1 was striked out with Bailey’s initials indicate that coach Leach wasn’t about to allow Myers to oversee practices or team functions.
This continues to look like Myers and Bailey working an agenda and looking for a way to fire coach Leach.
Screw them!
I do like Double T 104.3 but..
I do want to support TTech and I just think that the same Admin. that brought us this, I just don’t trust them! I think we are looking @ Sonny Dykes and that pains me!
I just hope our
good ole boy AD doesn’t have an ole buddy already in waiting….his moves have been so low ball and bush league that it wouldn’t surprise me if they made a public perception coaching “search” but have a guy in mind that will be the next coach regardless of the fake "search. (Sonny Dykes would be a good guess)
sonny
let’s see what his offense does against neb tonight
Really....
Scott Van Pelt show (ESPN) 2:51pm reporting Chris Perry and Taylor Charbonnet (sp?) are happy Leach is gone and thought Leach treated James like an animal
No
As far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t mean shit unless it comes from the other Charbonnet… Daniel.
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
i saw that
we’ll see how they feel when they"re at home next bowl season.
Brent Venables
I would much rather see us go after a young, innovative guy who has something to prove and has been the understudy of a proven program than go after a guy like Sonny Dykes just because he has ties to our program.
I don't think Briles is ready yet.
He hasn’t been at the helm of a winning college program. I think we would regress.
Art Briles
I thought I read that Art Briles and his wife were reported to have been staying at a Lubbock hotel on Monday night. Wouldn’t that suggest that Baylor will be looking for a new coach soon?
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'd hate to see Brent go...
But you’re right…it’s his turn somewhere. Only thing I’d say would be, you would need a heck of an OC, because Venables is an all-defense, all-the-time guy.
I'm calling for Red Raiders to go vent over beers
with fellow red raiders….going to do that now
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions
Ive only seen 100 hitler videos
but that made me shit my pants…
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Greg -frickin-McMackin
Bout wet my pants on that one. Thanks for making me laugh in an otherwise "want to crawl in a hole and cry’ kind of day.
I have never broken up with a supermodel.......
but it is hard for me to think about other coaches right now.
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 3:03 PM CST reply actions
this feels like that time I came home early from work and thought I was hearing cats in the bedroom…………jk
True love is when you catch the red-eye home from a conference and two strangers jump out of the closet ready to tag team your…..
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone catch this quote on ESPN article?
Quote from James family spokesman:
“We appreciate that the university conducted a fair and thorough investigation,” said a statement from the James family."
Really? How is it possible that Craig James knows the university completed a fair and thorough investigation? From all reports I have seen, the investigation is still not yet complete.
And if it is complete, the WHY IN THE HELL HAVE WE NOT SEEN ANYONE FROM THE ADMISTRATION in a press conference to discuss the decisions and answer any questions???
Uniforms
I would love to see our team roll out of the tunnel at the Alamo Bowl and every single one of them had the name LEACH on the back of their jersey. Fuck the AD and the President for doing this…. an absolute self imposed death penalty….
Apparently....
Several players are glad for this again let’s see what it is like if they low ball(which I think they will) and we are sitting home next year at this time.
Not only will they
lowball (if they weren’t even willing to give Leach money), but even if they DID offer big coach money, how many coaches would WANT to play for an administration who doesn’t support its coach in an area of Texas that is already hard to recruit and competing year after year with OU, UT and the rest of the BIG XII….
I’m going to leave work early and hit the bar….
They’ll get the only name they care about: Sonny Dykes
However, I wonder why Major Applewhite and Paul Johnson haven’t been mentioned. Major knows what it is like to get shafted by a state school and Johnson knows how to do more with less.
I hope they get Sonny, or whatever it takes to eventually clean out the current administration.
Gary Patterson
would also be a good fit…he’s been doing more with less for the same amount of time as Leach, knows recruiting in the state, and I think after this year he realizes that there is absolutely no way he will ever get to a national championship at TCU.
Only problem is....
why would he want to come to a university where the administration throws the head coach under the bus?
Can you imagined Patterson
coaching with the players that are at Tech? Not exactly his scheme, so it would be interesting to say the least.
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
I blame Greg Abbott and Rick Perry
It just so happens that they went to UT and TAMU. Coincidence? I think not. Let’s look deeper.
/end unfounded conspiracy
Our First Aggie appoints all the regents, right?
I figure this all comes to it’s conclusion in 2015, when the Texas A&M Lubbock Red Raiders take the field for the first and last time. The university is burned to the ground later that night.
And no, I’m not serious, just building on your conspiracy theory.
Everyone reading this thread should send an email to Chancellor@ttu.edu to voice thier opinion..
Here is mine….
I am an Architecture graduate of 86’ and was about to join the alumni association and send a sizable check to support our football program as a tribute to Mike Leach and his success. I have spent 15 years building a successful business and felt is was time to share…I have never sent money to Tech, though I have often thought about it. As long as Gerald Myers and the current administration is in place, I will never send a dime to support a university that now has me embarrassed to tell anyone that Tech was my college(I will remove my flag from my 1922 historic house in Tampa Florida as soon as I get home!!!).
I am embarrassed to have graduated from a school that has behaved so badly in both the contract negotiations and the way it has fired coach Leach….your actions have set the reputation of this university back many years. The worst part of this is that most of us are embarrassed to say we choose to attended and graduated from Tech.
Please read all the comments on the blog "double T nation" and you will realize that we will never forgive you for your lack of class in this situation. Below is just one of many comments you will find, but I believe it captures a lot of our feelings….
For years I have tried to defend Lubbock and Texas Tech that we are a modern school with new age thinking, but today this just shows that the city of Lubbock and the Tech administrators are a bunch of one-dimensional thinkers ran by good ol’ boys and farmers. So they can’t handle an outside the box coach, so what do they do…..find some BS way to fire him and now they can bring back in another good ol’ boy.
Thank you Tech for running off this fan of 25 years!
mine included this tid bit
At one point my letter asked Hance to admit that TTU has “been a participant in a giant scheme to contaminate or cut off our cities’ water supply.” They don’t deserve the effort it would take to draft a meaningful letter that might not even make it past the junkmail filter.
Read the TTU Response
In the response to the papers filed by Leach the TTU response is now available out there on the internet. The first twelve pages or so are Legal mumbo jumbo but page 12 or 13 Exhibit A is the letter presented to Leach on Sunday that he refused to sign. There was no admission of guilt or suspension only that we were conducting an investigation and to treat players fairly and that injured players should be released in writing. There are more details but those are the general guidelines. Go find the letter it will change the way you feel about the story.
Despite the facts or the allgations by the James family, Leach’s refusal to be an employee to his employer not Gerald Myers not a pissin contest but the President representing the university was his downfall. The pirate after all not wanting to submit to anyones wishes or trying to over protect his money or his legal contract caused the firing. He tried to turn the tables and run things on his terms against the best wishes of the University. They didnt want to take control of his team or accuse him of anything they only wanted him to sign a letter that re enforced the terms of his contract that he was follwing all procedures and guideliens
I enjoyed the man, and as an alum that graduated only weeks after the last game coached by Spike have enjoyed every single game but I think after he turned the tables during the contract negotiations he got a bit too big for his own good.
I strongly believe that he revolutionized college football and was / will never be given credit for doing so. I am the biggest fan but the men that run the university are highly educated men and are not going to act against our own best interest. The administration just has to take the higher road because they are an ongoing concern.
did you actually read that letter?
Im a Longhorn fan and even I can tell you that that letter was absolute garbage and if my employer had asked me to sign something similar I would have flatly refused and immediately called my attorney.
thats ridiculous.
I agree
From what i read, it appreared that if he had signed the letter, then the university would be in the middle of an investigation and we would still have a head coach and he would be in SA preparing for a bowl game.
I read the letter
What about this tidbit in the letter:
"In addition to being unacceptable, if proven, these allegations constitute a breach of your employment contract."
I would never sign something like that. It basically states that if he sent Adam James to a dark room, he is in breach of his contract. They were building a case against him and that is plainly obvious.
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
He deserved it
Any idiot who sues their employer five days before they are due $800,000 knows they are going to get fired. Does Leach thinks he runs the university? How pitiful is that – if anyone sued their boss, whether right or wrong, they’d be fired. What did he expect?
And James? All he had to do was revoke the kid’s scholarship instead of locking him in a room (twice). What is wrong with you people?
What a dummy. He deserved to be fired.
Want more? Read at http://www.enlightenedspartan.com.
Beyond the story, good luck on Saturday – we Spartans could use all the help we could get and certainly weren’t expecting this. Should make for a crazy atmosphere to the game. I just hope we can keep up.
We'll still kick your yankee ass all the way ...
back to that wasteland of depressed state you call home.
Here's the funny part....
As upset and disappointed as I am over today’s chain of events and the current state of our program….I’m still way more optimistic about our future than that of Michigan State’s.
by 2001Raider on Dec 30, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't understand
He was a heartbeat away from leaving, I understand you guys are upset that the greatest coach in school history was fired. What if Leach left for another job? Would you guys be rioting as well.
There was a firefight!!!!
Why are you still here?
Your blah blah blah is tiresome. Also, you aren’t much of a phenomenon.
by jeffinhouston on Dec 30, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
I know logic isn’t a required course for every major, but let’s give it a try:
If I left my wife would I be as upset as if she had left me?
If Leach left we’d direct our anger at him.
You are everything that is wrong with the internet.
what you guys
need to do….. is have t-shirts made displaying your dissatisfaction with your AD, and get them to the bowl game. You know that ESPN won’t show them on air….. but you can take all the pictures you want and post them here.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
Twitter!
cornnation@gmail.com
Corn Nation
We had the time of our lives at the stadium club this year at the tech game (my inlaws live in lincoln and got us in). NU has always been my 2nd favorite team and the roadtrip cemented that. I may be applying for full rights to cheer for the Skers soon (pending my investigation).
GO BIG RED
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
I was so rooting for you guys against Texas…..SUH is the beast and deserved the Heisman! He will be awesome in the NFL….McCoy will be lifetime backup.
by WreckerRaider on Dec 30, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Will Art Briles be Next Coach at Texas Tech?
Posted: Dec 30, 2009 2:56 PM CST
by Brandon Davidow
WACO – With the firing of Texas Tech head football coach Mike Leach this morning, will the Red Raiders now turn to Baylor Head Coach Art Briles?
A source very knowledgeable with Baylor and Texas Tech athletics has told News Channel 25 Sports that Art Briles is the leading candidate for the vacant position.
An official at Baylor athletics told News Channel 25 Sports that the University does not comment on other schools and their personnel changes. Baylor also said they have no information regarding the matter.
Briles received a bachelors degree from Texas Tech in 1979 and came back to the Red Raiders to coach the running backs from 2000-2002. He was hired as the head coach at the University of Houston in 2003. Briles just completed his second season with the Bears football program.
My wish list:
1) Sumlin (he has to bring Dana with him though) – though I doubt our farmer good ol boys will want an African American as a HC. I hate to use the race card here,but that’s the reality of Lubbock and college football.
2) Briles – I do like his fire and if he could keep this recruiting class together.
3) I would like to see an upcoming coordinator like Venables, Jeremy Bates (USC), get a look.
by WreckerRaider on Dec 30, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t like the venables idea. I want to keep an offensive minded guy and were bigger than venables.
My fear is that
we won’t even be able to be considered by guys like Venables after this fiasco. Why would he leave a proven program for a program where the administration shows no support to its coach…or conversely, fires its coach after unprecedented success?
Well right now the Head Coach is Ruffin, an African American, and there has been speculation that he would get the job. I don’t think those Good’ol’Boys are against it.
I’m for Sumlin as well.
I like
Sumlin, Paul Johnson and Venables. As for the offense….we’re not going to be as prolific as we were during the Leach years regardless of who comes in….you can only hope that the understudies of Leach have had enough mentoring to keep some of the system.
I AM not going to SA....
My intention is to send the unused tickets to Hance in disgust. If anyone on this board has a better protest that they can do in person, I might be tempted to let you have these. I am going to go have beers with other guys going, but if I decide to not go I would give them to someone who has a good protest. I will jump back on tonight and let you know. I am in the Collin County area.
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 3:34 PM CST reply actions
oldschoolraider.....
I think you should go and have a great time in SA. Also go to the game dressed as a pirate!!!!! Then protest after the Bowl!
Meeting two other Mensa members
For beers…..really can’t see going.
If my wife wasn’t going, I would get wicked drunk and show up in full pirate regalia
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 4:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
From a Penn State Fan
Texas Tech is my second favorite team. They became that because of Mike Leach. I think what Tech has done to him is one of the worst injustices I’ve seen in college football. I wish him the best. I hope he lands somewhere good, soon. I still hope Texas Tech beats Michigan State in the bowl game and that is for the players Mike Leach coached. They deserve to win. Unfortunately, I don’t know if I can continue to support a school that treats one of their best the way they have.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." -Joe Paterno
by pslion on Dec 30, 2009 3:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Major
What they did to Major Applewhite at UT used to be at the top of my list of ‘injustices’ until today. Simms never won the job outright…. just saying.
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
further proof that bloodlines are more hatsle than they are worth...
If Mack had played Major all along…who knows what would have happened. He was Teboish…dare I say?
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell
by Mulliganville on Dec 30, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Utter disbelief by this Horns fan...
Leach is so solid…quirky, but great for the university. I am saddened, shocked, and in disbelief that the university chose to hide something and save some cash over committing to winning.
Here is to you TT Nation (glass raised). You deserve better (Clink).
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell
by Mulliganville on Dec 30, 2009 3:53 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Good Luck
to you guys in the BCS Championship, glad we could help undermine the Big XII even more than it already was this year. Your Welcome.
by LBKpiratefan on Dec 30, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you...if you listen to the media, we may as well not even suit up. Just the way I like it.
And to tell you the truth…TT has worried me more than OU lately…do you hear that TT admin? Morons.
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell
by Mulliganville on Dec 30, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Kirk Herbstreit
“My guess is that the Texas Tech players will be behind Adam. There won’t be a rift between the team and Adam.”
Kirk obviously hasn't been
doing his job and is horrible misinformed….or else he would have read the slew of e-mails reflecting multiple “rifts” between many former players with Adam James.
What do the players think?
I would love to know what the players are saying, thinking and feeling. They have all of the facts. They have the best sense of whether this is a tragedy or due course. Has anybody heard?
by TTRedRaiderAlum on Dec 30, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions
Here
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/texas-tech-player-no-complaints-leach-is-gone-27510
There was a firefight!!!!
by ThePhenomenon on Dec 30, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
Disturbing...
Very disturbing and disheartening that Byrnes was in on those comments.
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
I scanned over a few of their profiles and they seem VERY behind Adam. Seems strange to me. I think they’re more upset with how angry the students are than anything.
Which ones????
Any player in particular that you could mention?
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Def. both the Charbonnet’s (Taylor and former player Daniel), Detron Lewis and Marlon Williams. I’m just speculating, but they think the fans are very informed and are mad at our reaction.
I'm assuming all that are not in favor...
were probably benched or put on Scout team recently. Very convienient.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
E-mail from a out of state friend...
“Wow…Texas Tech fires the most successful football coach in the history of the university, and looks petty and incompetent in the process. Another case of”Typical Tech"?"
signed the letter
so ’IF" Leach had signed the letter, would he still be employeed? At least that is how i read it.
From ESPN's Tim Griffin:
Texas Tech officials plan to move quickly to fill the position vacated when Mike Leach was fired. Under Texas state law, the opening will need to be posted for at least 10 days, meaning it is still several days from being filled.
Chancellor Kent Hance plans to take an active role in the hiring. Here’s a look at some of the most prominent names you’ll be hearing about in the next several days:
Baylor coach Art Briles: He played at Houston, but graduated from Texas Tech and coached there three seasons as Leach’s original running backs coach before starting his head coaching career at Houston in 2003. His offensive ideas mesh well with what the Red Raiders’ current philosophy. He also has the added benefit of being well-known and popular among high school coaches after winning four state championships at Stephenville High School.
Texas Tech defensive coordinator/interim head coach Ruffin McNeill: Arguably the most popular sports figure in Lubbock — even bigger than Leach. His transformation of the Tech defense has been the team’s underrated strength over the past two seasons. He’s also beloved by players and respected by other members of the school’s administration. His hiring would be the easiest transition in the program, especially in maintaining recruiting continuity.
Former Auburn/Mississippi coach Tommy Tuberville: Tuberville was out of coaching this season after he resigned at Auburn after last season. Insiders say he’s itching to get back into college football and would be interested in the Tech job. He’s familiar with Texas recruiting after coaching at Texas A&M in 1994.
Southern Mississippi coach Larry Fedora: Born in College Station, Fedora has the background to be interested in coming to Tech. He was head coach at Garland High School for four seasons before serving as an assistant for six seasons at Baylor and three seasons at Oklahoma State before taking the Golden Eagles’ head coaching job in 2008. He’s led them to back-to-back trips to the New Orleans Bowl in his first two seasons there.
Arizona offensive coordinator Sonny Dykes: A former baseball player at Tech, Dykes would appeal to many locals because his father is Spike Dykes, who coached there immediately before Leach. Sonny Dykes was on Leach’s staff for seven seasons before he left to join Mike Stoops’ staff at Arizona in 2007.
No to each of them....
I say go after Gary Patterson or June Jones. Tuberville?? Are you F-ing serious?
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t like the tuberville choice either.
Jones and Patterson sound good, but I don’t think they are going to leave their schools
i don't trust or believe Tim Griffin at all
He wasn’t any fan of Mike Leach and is probably pleased by the decision. I guess the side effect is maybe more fair coverage from him regarding Tech.
by imisswesttexas on Dec 30, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Hilarious
Stop believing that there is some media conspiracy out there against Tech. There isn’t. Blame it on Leach, the administration or the James gang but not the media. Its not the media’s fault that Leach doesn’t believe in listening to his bosses like everybody else in every other part of society. Hell Bobby Bowden has to listen to his bosses and they told me you ain’t coming back. You don’t see him file an injunction against the University even though he wanted to coach. Its not the media’s fault that the administration and the coach doesn’t get along. Its not he media’s fault that Leach either doesn’t know or refuses to play the game of corporate America. Like football life has rules whether they are fair or not you have to follow them.
There was a firefight!!!!
by ThePhenomenon on Dec 30, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
JeffinHouston...
I think we have another candidate for ‘Stupidest post of the day’.
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Sideline will tell the story
My season tickets are intentionally right behind the home team bench in The Jones. The view of field is undoubtedly restricted, but you are able to pick up a lot of information from sideline behavior. You see certain cliches and see how some players are in the game and others along for the ride. I seem to recall a headband-and-highlights cliche that never seamed too interested in the game. Funny how they are now developing into under-achieving, trouble-makers.
Where was IMG during all of this?
IMG was incredibly involved during the contract negotiation process last winter; yet, there were clearly absent during this episode. Does anyone know if Leach terminated his IMG relationship after the contract fiasco? Given how IMG handled that situation, I don’t think this outcome would have been any different. I just thought they would be more involved if a relationship still existed.
five stages of grief
I started at Tech in 01’ and have been excited each year to see what this guy has done for the program. The ‘Typical Tech" phrase has come out of my mouth less and less each year. My family (all of which are aTm grads, (black sheep I guess) root against us when we play each other, but love to cheer for Tech because of Leach…and I got a call from the parents and the first thing they said was “Typical Tech”. Ugh, I hate to agree. I guess I’m in the grieving stage now. Denial was yesterday, Anger was this morning…..
Gulp....
wow, I didn’t expect that. For a minute there, I wasn’t impressed because I thought it was Taylor’s post. But from Daniel?!?! WTF is going on???
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
Craig James strikes again
My anger at the administration is nothing compared to what I feel about this dick. First he cheats while at SMU and helps bring down that program. He leaves that pile of ashes behind him and makes millions for himself. I never heard him express any regrets for his part in that debacle. Now he sneaks around to that complete moron of an AD we have and whines like a typical little league parent, and turns another program into a pile of ashes. He doesn’t care how many lives he destroys or how many programs he wrecks as long as he gets what he wants. That is one sorry excuse for a human being. Gauging from Adam’s spoiled behavior, it would appear his own son is another of his victims – he just doesn’t know it yet.
I won't let the door hit me on the way out
Barring some huge revelation that Leach has been eating babies out of the back of an orphanage in Lubbock, I simply can’t be a fan of any program managed by this administration. In high school, Texas Tech was the only school I applied to and I was happy to go to school there. Lubbock is a great town and Tech is an otherwise respectable school. My moral fibre, personal belief system, or whatever-you-call-it dictates that my relationship with the school must finally come to an end.
I believe in cooperatism ethics. I was introduced to this line of thinking in Henry Hazlitt’s The Foundations of Morality. In the book he wrote that "Ethics must take into consideration not merely the immediate but the longer effects of any act or rule of action; it must consider the consequences of that act or rule of action not merely for the agent or any particular group but for everybody likely to be affected, presently or in the future, by that act or rule of action."
I think that TTU did what they (selfishly) thought was in their best long-term interest. As a fan, I have realized that their best interests and my best interest aren’t aligned. On top of that, the way that they go about forwarding their interests is underhanded. They have proven to be untrustworthy.
College sports programs are nothing but a business and you have to hit a business where it hurts. You have to hit them in the pocketbook because that may be all that matters to them. Buying merchandise, event tickets, or even contributing to TV viewership is a sign of support. You may think you are only supporting the school or the players, but you are also supporting the administration. You are enabling – even rewarding – their behavior.
I do not believe that you can look at the events that transpired this week and conclude that this was anything less than a hatchet job on Leach executed by Texas Tech with the help of the James family. He was wronged. I cannot look the other way. I cannot condone what happened. Remaining a fan of TTU athletics would be doing exactly that.
This was not a simple coaching change. Those of us that are leaving were not T-shirt fans. This isn’t about a bad football season. This is about right and wrong. Sticking around means that you agree with what happened and how it happened.
I’m taking the high road. I hate to leave behind Pat Knight and so many fond memories, but I can always hope that the administration will someday be replaced. It may or may not be too late for me to come back at that point, but I’ll know that my school of (first) choice may finally be in good hands.
I plan to lurk around the boards as I get ready for the trip to SA and my final TTU event. After that, I wish everyone the best regardless of which direction they choose to travel. I hope it is the principled one.
I got it wrong
Tech wasn’t even acting in their own long-term best interest. They honestly thought they could force this a crazy agreement on Leach and then withold $800k from him for not signing it. Hance sounded like a moron on ESPN, but I understand that he is trying to spin this his way. He should have said that en employer shouldn’t be surprised when an employee sues them for standing between them and $800k.
Shocking
I just listened to ESPN during the half time of this bowl game between BGSU and Idaho. Holtz did a good commentary. The others essentially character assasinated him. They said there are guys on the team now speaking up about how Leach was abusive to the players. None of the news the other two reported is current and sounds like pure speculation. They did not report how there has been a lot of info coming out about how current and past players are speaking up in support of Leach. No comments on how current and past coaches are speaking up in support of Leach. The ESPN party line is that Leach was abusive and there are other issues we will never know about that contributed to this. Sounds like they are rallying to Craig James. Bet his son isn’t playing at Tech or any other major University after the bowl game.
My feeling as an alum and season ticket holder is that they should have fired Gerald Myers. Leach is one of the best things to have ever happened to Tech Football.
Sonny
I would love to hear Sonny Cumbie’s thoughts on this issue…
by cmatthews0861 on Dec 30, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
AJ editor
was interviewed by phone on ESPN2 and also reported that past players are very supportive of Leach including past coaches. He had up to the minute news on this issue and it doesn’t sound like Leach has abused anyone.
I heard the supposed small equipment closet is actually a large temporary equipment building that the offensive lineman go to cool down in during practice. It is air conditioned. The other room is a media room of some sort that also is air conditioned. Doubt with the cold weather we have had that overheating is an issue.
Rumor is that Ryan wasn’t much of a hard working guy. Rumor is that Ryan was a complainer and spent a lot of time on the cell phone during practice texting while the team worked hard. Rumor is that Craig was on the phone a lot asking Leach why his son didn’t get more playing time. Rumor is that Leach offered Ryan a scholarship when no other division 1 school would as a favor to Craig James. Now Craig James has stabbed him in the back if these things are true. If not, my apologies for spreading rumors, but isn’t that what ESPN is doing? They certainly aren’t reporting any facts.
I wish they would have fired Myers and signed Leach for a Lifetime contract. I guess I should have asked Santa for that…
My season tickets and RRC membership have been cancelled. I challenge each of you to do the same.
This administration obviously has no concern for the fan base and its opinion. That being the case, we must communicate our feelings in the only language they understand — funding. Everything this administration covets is predicated on access to additional funding. If we fail to remit our donations, fail to lobby our elected officials for additional state funding . . . perhaps the administration and BOR will realize how we have been failed. And this is not based purely upon this episode. The contract debacle and the accreditation issues should have been established a sufficient basis, but this just puts it over the top.
Maybe they should ask Craig James who he wants as coach?
He seems to be the most powerful man in the athletic dept.
Anyway, I don’t have much confidence in our admin making a solid choice.
http://twitter.com/Sean_Callahan/statuses/7213453862
Just walked past Craig James in the press box at the Holiday Bowl.He had a security guard that appeared to be walking with him at all times.
Mcneil says "double yes"?
LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) – In a news conference on Wednesday afternoon from San Antonio, Interim Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator Ruffin McNeill said “double-yes” when asked if he would like to become head coach for the Texas Tech Red Raiders.
Also in the news conference, he addressed the news of Leach’s firing, and what he will say to his friend when he talks to him.
According to the University’s website, the Red Raiders Defensive Coordinator is one of the most versatile coaches on the staff and also one of the most beloved by the team.
McNeill is currently in his 10th season with the Raiders.
Texas Tech has not commented on a possible replacement for Leach. At this time, McNeill is acting as head coach leading up to and during the Alamo Bowl.
REVOLT
Seriously, have or do you think any of the players WILL NOT PLAY Saturday?
They should have a walk out and show this Piece Of Shit administration what they have done, which is screw every kid’s college career up by this!!!!!
PS- PLEASE TAKE THAT COUNTDOWN CLOCK OFF THE SITE, WHO REALLY CARES WHEN THIS GAME STARTS ANYMORE!!!!
DISGUST
I’m not even sure how I’m supposed to watch the game.
by Damien Franco on Dec 30, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
Next Coach at Tech
I am hearing rumors that the administration is looking at Art Briles, Sonny Dykes and Ruffin as possible prospects for a new coach. Someone please tell me this is false and the administration is actually going to hire someone good to control the damage they have already done! With any of the above three, we will become the cellar of the Big XII in football and if the Big XII dissolves for some reason its CUSA, Mountain West or WAC baby!
There isn't a Monterey or Coronado head coach ready to go?
They love their local heroes in Lubbock. Is Ron Reeves available?
The admin.
clowns will make a bad hire and you can expect a drought. These idiots should be in charge of nothing related to football.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
you wanna hear a joke
Art Briles
no way cheap Tech pays the few million dollar buyout to get a Briles. They let Leach go because of 800 thousand dollars – go figure…
there's also a rumor
that they are talking to Gabe Rivera and James Hadnot. Tim Smith already turned it down – he’s still in rehab…
I don't have time to read all 588 comments
So hope nobody’s said this. We are now flying in our double T upside down in duress. You vets will understand. I think we all should do it.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Dec 30, 2009 6:21 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'll fly mine upside down!
Great idea!
by Damien Franco on Dec 30, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
I'll fly mine upside down!
Great idea!
by Damien Franco on Dec 30, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
great idea
and since we are both in Plano it will get around quickly. This needs to be done by everyone in protest for our idiot administration.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
just solved world hunger and the Tech debaucle
at 2 brother in Plano/Frisco….the owners are tech grads. Good place
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Do you remember the Holiday bowl a few years ago....
We were a team on the rise and you could tell the way we tore Cal a new one.
Watching this game after today’s events listening to CJ us too much.
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
Tech releases statement
LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) – Texas Tech releases a statement on the termination of Football Coach Mike Leach.
The statement reads as follows:
After reviewing all the information available, Texas Tech University has decided that the best course of action for the university and its football program is to terminate its relationship with Head Football Coach Mike Leach for cause.
Texas Tech was prepared to participate in the legal proceeding today on coach Leach’s motion for a temporary restraining order. His attorney, however, chose to not participate when he was informed that the termination of coach Leach was inevitable.
The coach’s termination was precipitated by his treatment of a player after the player was diagnosed with a concussion. The player was put at risk for additional injury. After the university was apprised of the treatment, Coach Leach was contacted by the administration of the university in an attempt to resolve the problem. In a defiant act of insubordination, Coach Leach continually refused to cooperate in a meaningful way to help resolve the complaint. He also refused to obey a suspension order and instead sued Texas Tech University. Further, his contemporaneous statements make it clear that the coach’s actions against the player were meant to demean, humiliate and punish the player rather than to serve the team’s best interest. This action, along with his continuous acts of insubordination, resulted in irreconcilable differences that make it impossible for coach Leach to remain at Texas Tech.
“It is our number one priority to protect the welfare of our students and the reputation of the Texas Tech University. Parents have entrusted us with their children and we take this responsibility very seriously. We very much appreciate the leadership shown by the university’s athletic director, Gerald Myers, and president, Guy Bailey, in dealing with this unfortunate situation. The board supports their decision,” said Larry Anders, chairman and Jerry Turner, vice chairman of the Texas Tech University System Board of Regents.
In the near future, Texas Tech will undertake a search for a new coach. In the meantime, the focus of the athletic department is on the preparation for the Alamo Bowl.
WHAT
WHAT B U L L S H I T !!!!!!!
never thought I would ever say this about my school, " YOU FUCKING IDIOTS"
Class of ’93
Insubordination
is the reason for the firing. His actions against James only precipitated the university to attempt a resolution (???) that Leach didn’t agree with.
Do these people ever converse face to face or is always through legal documents and representatives? Ridiculous…
Punishment
Since when is punishment to the exclusion of the best interest of the team?
by TTRedRaiderAlum on Dec 30, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Insubordination
So any state employee that is insubordinate gets immediately fired without any due process. thats a load of horse manure. The University has totally made Tech the laughingstock of the nation as this New Year unfolds. Our Chancellor and Gerald Myers has totally embarrassed Raider Nation. Unfortunately, they don’t have to resign and since they are appointed we can’t vote them out. I am sick. How can this be happening? I am ashamed of them and our University…
Guy Bailey
Bailey is a Bama alum and has a Ph.D. from Tennessee. I would have thought he would understand the value of a premier football program in academic recruiting, be it students or top notch faculty, more than anybody else. But alas!
June Jones
Can we get June Jones to Tech? At the moment he seems to be a better replacement than Briles, Dykes and company. Tuberville is also available, and though he is a different type of coach, he does coach at a high level but like Leach he won’t take any crap from Myers, and so he or anybody else good won’t come unless Myers also resigns.
Auburn Grad/Texas Tech fan
I have now seen my 2 favorite universities lose their minds and do something incredibly ignorant and self-serving. Tommy T has ben through this already with idiots in the admin…he’d have to be a glutton for punishment to go through that again.
Insubordination?
How many pink slips did Leach receive for insubordination? Can we see them? I didn’t think so.
My ESPN Dad
I sure wish my dad worked for ESPN. I would have my elementary school principal fired for the swats that I received for not doing my work.
we need a new board of regents
just read the quote from Jerry Turner…can’t wait to hear the “other issues” that came to light during the investigation, which of course he would not elaborate on
Work is going great for me and I have time and energy....
I think looking into the makeup of the board of regents would be a great thing for my OCD self to do.
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
So...I'm not going after checking with the braintrust and trusting my gut
the unused tickets will go to Hance.
I would like to take back some UA tech stuff…but I will sober up tomorrow.
ESPN should pay a price for having the ticker state that it was an electrical closet for over 24 hours…….
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:27 PM CST reply actions
I can see Celina from Allen....
Heard that papa James got kicked out of a rec game of softball that his daughter was playing this year
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:29 PM CST reply actions
Is this
Sonny Dykes audition game?
Not so good buddy.
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:32 PM CST reply actions
Candid interview with Hance at halftime of holiday bowl.
"Life's a garden, dig it."
by Remington870 on Dec 30, 2009 7:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
James BS
Your ass is sitting on ESPN ritght now, with a full national stage, “I know that there’s a lot of Red Raider fans upset righat now, but my family is going through a lot too.” FUCK YOU! Your ass and your son have messed with the wrong people! Mabey the son needs the other titty because, the one that he has been suck’n on is dry. She’ll be in the shed, waiting.
Boys...can we get a post "happy hour' thread going?
Many Red Raiders had to drown their tears and I’m interested. KWash especially
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:52 PM CST reply actions
It's coming, just wait.....
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
I justifications have started
I’m getting e-mails now from “insiders” in Lubbock that Leach flipped off the president of the university in a meeting. That seems like a good reason to destroy the football program. Cut off your nose to spite your face. I think the one thing Meyers, Hance, Bailey and any of the other other local heroes never understood was that in Leach they were dealing with a singular talent and not a traditional employee. They expected traditional employee deference & instead they should have treated him like an indulged child the way film studios treat the most talented film stars & directors or the art world treats its great painters. Genius lives by its own rules. And if you doubt the singular genius of Mike Leach, look at the offenses in the Big 12 in 1998 and look at them today. We had a man who is revolutionizing college football ready to continue serving Texas Tech University & we ran him off because he wasn’t an ass kisser. That’s just fricking brilliant. Well done gentlemen.
by mbrown603 on Dec 30, 2009 7:55 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
This all relates to them wanting him to apologize
for the James incident. Are you willing to sign a legal document that would screw your family because a paper pusher says so?
Its not an analogy by definition, but it is a comparison to a hypothetical event.
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
You aren’t Albert Einstein or Winston Churchill. Churchill was a royal pain in the ass to every person he ever worked with. He also saved western civilization from the Nazis. Leach never worked for Texas Tech or it’s administrators. He rented his talents to them. There is a difference.
Burkhead is doing what I thought he would do..
for may new favorite team (for now).
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
He could have taken a
shit on Guy “dont call me Gus”‘s desk and I’m pissed with this.
Stupid Bureaucrat
by oldschoolraider on Dec 30, 2009 7:58 PM CST reply actions
employee behavior
ok, so maybe Leach should not have flipped off the Pres., he could have simply thrown a salad at him, that’s not nearly as bad
i'm from wyoming
and we do have classes about not suing the boss, it is called “how to be a company man 101” gets your facts right Hance
ESPN on the Hance/James wagon
I don’t care how much a coach pleases the President, AD, Chancellor or the freakin’ waterboys….does he please the people that put money in the universities coffers? Namely us! keep building on that stadium so more people can watch Willie and Bon Jovi….that will be your best crowds from now on!
Hance's enlightening comments on ESPN
ya it’s all about egos, which, let’s not forget also includes the James’ and the administration’s’collective egos as well…if it were any other benchwarmer on the team this would have never been a story at all…
Lubbock hated Buddy Holly for playing Rock & Roll
I read the Avalanche-Journal microfiche from the day after he died. His relatives swore he promised to return home to record a gospel album. That was the only way they could see to justify his sinfulness in creating timeless rock & roll. Someday they will be naming parks & boulevards after Mike Leach in Lubbock. Just not today. Leach & Natalie Maines should have a beer together tonight.
You're Kidding Right?!?!
Leach did not go on a stage in front of thousands of foreign Tech fans ON foreign soil and state that he was embarassed that Bailey was Tech president….he flipped him off in a private office meeting. Natalie will not have a street named after her.
The insider was the manager of one of the TV network affiliates in Lubbock. The e-mail asked me to call them for details & so I could be placated by the story, but it only pisses me off more that the pig headed Tech administrators would push Leach to the point where he felt that flipping them off was the only way he could get through to them.
have ya been to redraiders.com? there is a youtube video Adam filmed while locked up. Now it’s getting crazy.
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