They are on a higher level, I believe.

Obviously, I’m a Texas fan, but I will usually route for the conference against non-conference teams because I hate it when people talk down on the Big XII. I don’t think I’ve ever routed against Tech in a nonconference game. I will generally route for Texas teams in the conference over non-Texas teams. However, it all depends on the year and the situation. I was routing for OU against USC in the MNC a few years ago, but I was routing for UF last year, just because of the way the whole Big XII tie-breaker went down. This year, I will be routing for all of the Big XII teams.

I wish the Big XII was more like the SEC and the Big Ten, where everyone seems to want the other conference teams to do well (even Auburn/Alabama and Michigan/tOSU fans), but I realize that this conference is not nearly that well connected. It’s a marriage of convenience.

Bama completely dominated the defending nat. champs and made Tebow cry. Their coaching schemes, play-calling, and players all seemed superior to me, and then I watched the Texas game. It seemed like watching a pro game, then watching a college game. I will be very surprised if UT beats Bama.

except for OU. Maybe if Stoops goes to lose games for the Irish and/or their boosters pay fewer players, that will change.

My rationale is that the best thing for Tech is that the conference represent well for all of the reasons listed above. Though I am generally not heartbroken if another team in the conference loses.

Is that they already have this negative view of the Big 12, time and time again all I read about is how people view the Big 12 as the most over rated conference and blah blah blah. To me it is unfortunate that people see things this way because truly we are one of the strongest… This being said, losses by OSU to UH, losses from us to UH, Oklahoma losing to BYU, A&M losing to everyone out of conference that isn’t D2, topped with several flop performances over that past few bowl seasons… sometimes its hard to disagree.

I find it hard because I really hate the “top teams” in our conference, and hate it even more when they are successful and we aren’t. If we have a good showing in our bowl game and represent how we should then I will probably find myself routing for some of our Big 12 brethren….

However, I in no way feel that UT deserves to 1) play in the NC game, or 2) win said game. UT is NOT the #2 team in the country and the only reason they got the nod is because ole coach Brown spent all offseason bitching and moaning to anyone who would listen about how they were robbed of their ‘right’ to play in the championship game.

So I WILL be routing for OU to beat Stanford for sure, OSU to lose to Ole Miss (they gave us hell for that last year), ISU to at least show up, Nebraska to win v Arizona, A&M to lose to Georgia…. And for UT I want a humiliation game, the kind of loss that makes the program look horrible, and with Colt and Shipley leaving in the offseason, along with many defensive players I want next year to be one rough rebuilding year thats for sure! I mean Colt’s backup has played how many snaps this year????

I didn’t used to be that way. I used to support any Texas team against an outsider, and to a lesser extent any conference team over an OOC team. I had been that way since I was a kid.

But not any more. Blame it on the internet, I guess. I’ve grown to despise the teams whose trolls come over here and talk trash. I know that we’re only talking about a tiny fraction of a team’s fans, but if you go peruse their websites it’s just more of the same. You wouldn’t believe the trash they were talking at BON and Barking Carnival before the UT-NU game. ’They’re not even in the same class as us’ was the typical sentiment from those arrogant whorns, along with ‘When are we going to get out of this chickenshit conference with the 11 little sisters’. It’s awfully hard to support a school whose students/grads talk like that (not everyone at BON is a t-shirt fan). And I get the same from the UT guys at work.

I’m still a conference guy except when it comes to UT, atm, and OU (and maybe OSU, too. They trash us every chance they get on their site.). Just compare the compliments we got from NU fans this year with the barrage of insults we got after 39-33. Hell, there’s a couple of whorn trolls that still haven’t stopped.

I am normally a fan of the Big 12 when bowl season rolls around (and in non-conference games for that matter). Part of it is liking to see our opponents succeed so there is more on the line when we play them, and part of it is conference strength vs the other BCS AQ leagues.

This year is different though. UT has been unimpressive in several of its wins… TCU deserves to be playing in the NC. I’d love to see UT get blown out. Otherwise I’m with Vassago, the Big 12 has already done more than enough to prove we are well below the SEC this year so there is no need to try and prove anything.

Plus, the media has ruined me on Tebow, Mccoy, and Shipley… to say I hate them with the fire of a 1000 burning suns would be going too far (from what I can tell they are all actually pretty good kids), but the media has played the buddy card, and God’s gift to football too much for me to want to see them succeed. As unfair as it is to the rest of the UT players, I hope they get blown out just to see Mccoy and Shipley lose. I honestly plan to watch the NC game on ‘mute’ just so I don’t have to hear repeats of last Saturday like… ‘Oh, Mccoy’s pass complete to his good buddy Shipley’. It also made my day to see Tebow lose.

I do plan to root for Nebraska though, as they are the class of this conference hands down. I’ll root for everyone else in the Big 12 too for the most part just for lack of any real motivation to root against them. Okie State is the exception to that… I always like to see them lose too.

I don’t envy other people’s success. I have to say that I generally pull for every Big 12 team, although I am a Tech alum. McCoy and Shipley seem like basically good guys and it’s not their fault we live in a stupid media country or chose the wrong school to attend. There are some jerks/dirty player on UT’s teams (you know who I mean). That I don’t root for.
The team I have the hardest time supporting is A&M, because of their fans and traditions, plus I knew the first graduating Maggie and still can’t believe the A&M Prez refused to shake her hand when she got her diploma. Arrogance is one thing; unearned arrogance is repulsive.
As far as UT goes, they were not all that impressive the last few weeks. But until they met on the field, Florida HAD been impressive and Alabama was hot and cold. Any team can have a below-par game, or two, or three…Good teams still win those. Is Tech really that much better than OU or Nebraska this year? I don’t think so. I also don’t think we have a inferior team to A&M or Houston. But the scores if isolated would make it seem that way.
UT will play much better than most people are predicting. That was Alabama’s best game in years, and everyone is on the bandwagon. Their athletes are not better than Texas. The question is how well UT’s and Bama’s assistants put together a game plan and how well the head coaches can motivate them.
In the meantime, let’s get Tech on track to beat the hell out of Michigan State. We need more great athletes and a bowl win might keep us in the running for a few of these guys!

except when tamu steps on the field (went there pre-TTU and absolutely despise that cult). Since UT is in the big game, I hope they take it. And, I hope TCU beats the snot out of the perennial whiners (aka Boise St.). I believe TCU is the best team in Texas right now and would have a better change against Bama, but bowl selection is beyond my pay grade.

nick saban did something nobody has done in a long long time. and that was showing class. at the end of the florida/bama game instead of running up the score they just took a knee. at first I thought oh wow how classy. then i saw tebow crying i thought to myself. actually just taking a knee (know a days) is more of a slap in the face then running up the score! it didnt matter what the stats or how many points they put up, they won. and there was nothing florida could do about it but watch them take a knee and celebrate!!!

I go for the big XII conference for everyone except A&M and Okie State. I hate those guys.

I despise every other team in the conference with a level of disdain usually reserved for in-laws and child molesters, that is until Bowl season.

After that I hope every BIG 12 teams takes care of business. As we all know strength of schedule and perception of strength go along way in how our own Tech squad is ranked and perceived. So after Christmas, GO BIG ! But before Christmas, GO TO HELL!

Before Christmas I want every big 12 team to lose. Especially UT, aTm, OU, Ok St….. but anyone really. After Christmas, I hope everyone but Texas can pull it out. Their fanbase ruins me on them. Some are alright, but the tshirt fans that never even attended a JuCo yet still want to talk crap about tech and refer to UT as “we” or “our team” ruin any chance of me rooting them on. True ’Horn fans, do yourselves a favor. Start crap with the guys that call it their team, when they have no affiliation with the school whatsoever. It will really help ease some of the hatred people feel for your university.

Most (if not all) can’t do it off the top of your head. Point is that I believe the conference vs conference discussion and bowl wins by a conference is way overrated.

True it gives the talking heads something to talk about over the course of the 3 weeks. But does anyone really remember once the next season starts?

I could give a crap whether UT wins or loses and certainly won’t “root” for them. Can’t image UT fans rooting for Tech in ANYTHING and especially the NC should we get there.

The one thing I will root for is if it appears UT is going to lose, I’ll root for them to lose BIG. And I mean big like over 35 point loss.

But should they find a way to win, then I’d be okay with that and offer up congrats to them. But I’m sure as hell not rooting for them.

I would point out that I tend to root for Big12 conference teams at the start of the season during non-conf games. And that even includes aTm, Ok St, OU and UT. Basically every Big12 team.

Why? It really makes sense to root for wins in as many of these as possible to elevate the conference record. This helps get teams in the top 25 prior to conference play. And helps with strength of schedule once conference play starts. Prime example being Big12 South during ’08 season.

I won’t root against any other bowl-bound Big XII team. But I won’t root for them either…

be rooting for OSU vs. Ole Miss and definitely UT over ‘bama. Anyone who was at the Cotton Bowl last year and has ears must have a burning hatred for Ole Miss… even more so than against anyone who “talks trash” on our message boards, as if we don’t do the same thing… would love to see the SEC do poorly and Big 12 do well!!!

Plus losing to the National Champ doesn’t look so bad does it?

Like many said before me, i root for all the Big 12 teams in Bowl games and non conference games just to make the Big 12 look better. Plus it always helps our SOS if Big 12 teams are ranked higher. But if they happen to lose I’m not heart broken.

aTm v. Georgia – I’ll be rooting for aTm because if they win, it makes Okie. State’s win over UGA seem insignificant. Plus, I HATE the SEC.

Arizona v. Nebraska – I want NU to win. Their fans are awesome and I’m not necessary a Stoops fan.

OU v. Stanford – I’m going for Stanford, just because I want to see OU have a losing season.

Navy v. Missouri – I’m rooting for Mizzou, just to make the B12 North seem not so pathetic.

Minnesota v. Iowa State – I like ISU. I’ll be rooting for them for the same reason I’ll be rooting for Mizzou.

Okie State v. Ole Miss – I hate the SEC. Ole Miss’s “SEC SEC SEC” chant last year disgusted me. Plus, their fans are racist. “The South will rise again!” chant is awful and the university “took action” to stop it. My cousin goes to Tennessee and the Ole Miss section was chanting it the whole game when their fight song ended. I can’t stand “Me Too State” but Ole Miss is worse in my book.

Texas v. Alabama – I hate UT more than any other school. I read their posts after the aTm game and they put down aTm’s team, traditions, and university for 4 paragraphs. We all saw what they wrote after the Tech game this year and what they had to say about how we beat them in a “fluke” game last year and the whole 45 > 35 campaign. I can’t stand Mack Brown and his politicking, their legions of t-shirt fans who didn’t graduate junior college, and their “We’re the class of the Big XII, the other school are like 11 red-headed cousins.” Their arrogance, ignorance, rudeness, soreness in losing and winning, seemingly getting every call go their way, celebrating others’ misfortunes, fair weather fan base, sense of entitlement, wealthy boosters who pay kids to play football there, lack of attention paid (and caring in general) to graduation, thinking they’re the best thing to happen to the sport, and lack of perspective makes it extremely difficult for me to root for their teams and university. I have relatives who are the same way. The fact that I can come up with over 10 reasons off the top of my head as to why I hate UT isn’t a good thing. The media is always quick to jump on the UT bandwagon. When they score on TV, I always hear clapping in the background of the booth. When they lose, it wasn’t their fault. I would love nothing more than to see a 70-0 blowout loss to Alabama. It might doom the conference, but I don’t think UT would recover from that for a while, especially in terms of recruiting.

I root for Tech and whatever results most benefit Tech. We have to recruit against all the teams in the conference as well as play them so everybody else doing well doesn’t do anything for us.

because i want the conference to look strong. but Roll Tide

Other than OU and UT, I guess you could say I want every other Big 12 team to win, though I am fairly indifferent. If my past experiences with UT and OU fans could have gone a little better, I would probably root for them too. The absolute worst though is UT. I would rather them lose than OU. I hope they get demolished against Alabama and I think they will. Alabama looks like a pro-team out there. I definetaly do not want UT winning another national title. We will never hear the end of it. At the end of the day, I don’t really get the whole rallying behind the conference thing. It’s like at the Cotton Bowl last year. Ole Miss is kickin our ass in the 4th, and instead of showing some school pride they do their stupid little “SEC, SEC, SEC” chant. That is the dumbest thing ever. I never have and never will be heard chanting “BIG 12 BIG !!” at any sporting event ever.

This may be a shock to everyone, but the UT fans I know still believe they were screwed out of the Big12 championship last year regardless of the fact they lost to Tech.
And it isn’t just UT fans. Either Herbie or Musburger made reference to this year’s win being that much better after “what happened last year with UT not going to the Big12 championship” (i.e. they got screwed out of it)
That being said, I don’t think there was an easy solution to 2008. But that doesn’t take away from horn fans omitting Tech from the conversation.

That as I was talking to our waitress about which school she should attend after HS, and within 5 feet next to people wearing aggie shirts, I rattled off every reason I hate ayunem loud enough for them to hear over my wife’s prompting not to. They need to go back to their hole and keep that crappy coach so long that there is no one alive that can remember the last time they were relevant in any sport. I even made a remark about how she’d be the prettiest girl on campus the moment she got there, so that would be a plus should she choose ayunem. Fake soldiers, cult, sheep humping, I didn’t hold back. My wife was mad at me all night, it was worth it to see the looks on those aggies’ faces, I’m sure they talked about my lack of class. Suck it aggots!