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Heisman Trophy is a joke


Hey All,

I posted this comment on another thread, but wanted to see what your thoughts were on this.  I think it's a good topic and wants to hear from DTN:

The Heisman trophy now is a joke. It no longer is ran by an organization that believes in rewarding college football’s best athlete, but is a political organization influenced by campus lobbyist and big dollar alumni. The Downtown Athletic Club is a classless organization and all former trophy winners should return their awards until something is changed. Leach is right—it is a popularity contest and a lifetime achievement award, not a single season award. For them to tout Graham last year as a candidate and ESPN showing his clips, BUT NOT TO INVITE HIM, has baffled me as of today! We know he was not going to win after the OU game, but invite the freaking kid for heaven’s sake!!!!! They invited Tebow,Bradford, and McCoy and that’s it! This year they invite 5. A few years ago they invited that kid from Hawaii who was a “system quarterback”!

I'm a little biased because this happened to Graham, but more upset about the inconsistencies of this bogus award. College football puts this award on the pedestal for what reason?? All the winners do nothing in the NFL (Eric Crouch, Gino Toretta).It seems like they just want to award a player from a big time program.  They have their head coach politicking all year for the award. 

It’s a popularity contest and if Colt wins this after that bad performance Saturday, this will confirm the politics and lobbying that is now invading college football. THe NCAA (National Communist Athletic Association) will not do anything and will continue to let this organized crime continue.



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Uber hype for the annoited one

C. McCoy is not the best football player in the nation. It’s just in a word disgusting. I would compare this public affairs hype to the cryers on the carnival midway. Hey Horns put a sock in it.

"do routine things routinely"

by centexraider on Dec 8, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

They are too influenced by the world wide leader

ESPN is who decides this award. They say who is on the list, they say what a kid has to do this game to stay on the list, they take kids off the list. Any network, who’s lead dog (Herbsteit) is on the record as continually saying team A deserves to be ranked higher because they are more talented, vs. a team that actually wins their games, I cannot take seriously. It has become a pro sport with 15 or so very large state universities and a few very wealthy private universities ( USC, ND, Miami) having the most tee shirt fans, which means they have to craft all their programming around those teams to make sure those alums/fans tune in. Example: an undefeated Tech squad facing an undefeated Texas, college game day does a human interest on the Texas QB/Reciever love affair which is a repeat airing from weeks before, and does a 2 minute silly piece about Tech’s line, when they knew all week they’d be IN LUBBOCK for the show. If you ever wonder how money and ratings control these types of shows, watch ESPN Suday morning NFL program. They’ll tease a Cowboys piece for an hour and a half before every commercial every week because they know there’s more Cowboys fans out there than any other team.

back to the Heisman, I’ll purposely put every TV in my house on FSN Saturday night while I’m away so Verizon can tell the ratings service that I was NOT watching that sham of an awards show. That feels better.

by Plano Jeff on Dec 8, 2009 11:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Are you a Nielsen family too?

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Dec 8, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NO

But you can’t tell me Verizon doesn’t keep track of that stuff, if not individual names of households, raw numbers for sure because they sell local ads during national shows.

by Plano Jeff on Dec 9, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's true...

The plus side with the Nielsen crap is that they pay you to use their service. It’s not much but it covers my HD channels that I have to pay extra for every month….

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Dec 10, 2009 5:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we were a Nielsen family back in the 70's or early 80's

We actually had to write down stuff on a chart and I remember they paid us like 50 cents. It was cool. But the funny thing was we lived so far in BFE, we only got 3 channels with a 50 ft. antenna.

Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!

by Plano Jeff on Dec 10, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It is a joke and it's no longer a lifetime achievement award....

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Dec 8, 2009 2:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

true...however

it’s a business….period! you always here about the cowboys even if they were shitty, you never stopped knowing how bad the yankees were last year, or good they are this year, and its simply because they are going to give what the majority of your clientel what they want. i dont blame espn or whomever decides this because they want to be successful just like the rest of us.

by chad0454 on Dec 8, 2009 5:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ESPN

ESPN certainly has a lot of influence. I think typically their analysis is decent, but you are right that they cater to the bigger, more popular schools. The fact that Notre Dame is news for anyone pretty much proves that. However I think ESPN did back Harrell last year in the Heisman race; they showed the Harrell to Crabtree play more than anybody. And they’ll freely admit that they cover schools, programs, teams that have more following because following = ratings = money.

My beef with the Heisman is that you have to basically be playing for the “national championship” to win it. Tebow doesn’t really have a shot because when he went “head to head” with Ingram, Ingram had a good game and Tebow didn’t. If it’s an individual award it should not matter if your team is 0-12 or playing in the “national championship game”. I think they should announce the MVPs of each conference and invite them all to New York. Then pick one to be the MVP of the country.

Then there’s the novelty argument that people are making for Ingram. That should not enter into a decision on who is the best individual college football player (who plays a position that accumulates statistics) this year. Alabama never having a Heisman winner and no RBs picked in a few years doesn’t mean jack. Pick the best player. In the nation. That year. That’s what the Heisman is. Don’t turn it into a freakin Emmy.

by merrik on Dec 8, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

But Ingram IS quite possibly the best player in the nation. Colt McCoy and Tim Tebow would be nothing without the amazing teams around them. Ingram or Gerhart man….. maybe Clausen haha.

by RdrPwr on Dec 8, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For perhaps the first Saturday in 2009, McCoy did not have the flu, but instead did not understand the rules of Football.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4725231

This guy has an excuse every time he plays like shit.

by boar_amour on Dec 8, 2009 10:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He’s a frickin mouth breather! I keep expecting him to scream “Ice cream, when the F*** did we get ice cream?!” And saying he wasnt worried with 0:00 on the clock just shows that UT arrogance.

by RdrPwr on Dec 9, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Knoxville reference!! hahaha

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Dec 9, 2009 5:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One example why McCoy should NOT win...

Potts = 46/62 420 yrds 6.8 yrd/catch 3 TD 1 INT
McCoy = 24/34 205 yrds 6.0 yrd/catch 1 TD 2 INT

This is one example. You can talk “system” all you want if you are a UT fan. But everyone knows they couldn’t run the ball worth a crap most of the year. So they did their share of passing.

The bottom line is he was out-played by Potts the first big road game of his career and that shouldn’t happen if you are a Heisman front-runner. Quite frankly, he doesn’t lead the nation in ANY statistical category at his position. So how exactly is he the ‘best’???

by imisswesttexas on Dec 9, 2009 8:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

IMO, they didn't even invite the player that should win

To me, I believe CJ Spiller was the most outstanding player this year. Read yesterday he averaged over 270 all-purpose yrds vs 4 top 15 teams this year. He rushed for 274 yrds and 4 TD’s in the ACC championship. THAT is a Heisman performance.

My other top player would be Misoli the QB from Oregon. He’s another outstanding player that helped Oregon win the Pac10. He basically put that team on his shoulders this season.

by imisswesttexas on Dec 9, 2009 8:45 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think the top 3 were invited. ingram, gerhart, and suh. I think suh should win it.

Spiller could have been there, dude is a beast, but he’s disappeared on the ground too often this season when he wasn’t playing up to his competition.

I don’t think any qb’s deserve to be there.

by kayakyakr on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Colt didnt even make the show?! Hahahaha

by RdrPwr on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ingram

has my vote. kid is a player. I would put Spiller as a close second. McCoy has no business being considered at this point. Think about how Harrell got dissed last season and he had a better finish than McCoy. In the end it’s politicking and popularity that win out. This award used to mean something.

by Raider1992 on Dec 9, 2009 1:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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