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Week 4: Big 12 Power Rankings


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Source: cbssportline.com

 

Updated Power Rankings (and a mind-boggling outcome) after the break.

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Texas Tech dropped 10 points in the Power Rankings after its loss on the road to second ranked UT - the largest fall in the polls among Big 12 teams. 

Meanwhile USC dropped just 9 points after its pathetic performance against unranked Washington.

Did anyone actually watch the game?

Does anyone credibly believe that UCLA (which struggled to win over ULL defeated Kansas State at home), or Kentucky, West Virginia, Washington, South Florida or Notre Dame are actually better teams?

Meanwhile, OSU’s lackluster win over Rice enables it to move up 1 spot to 17 and Missouri moves up 4 spots because of its win over Furman. 

This ladies and gentlemen is the perfect of example of why teams decide not to schedule tough non-conference opponents, because they are disproportionately penalized for losses while wins over teams like Furman offer the opportunity to move up 2 to 3 points every week.

Week 4:  Big 12 Power Rankings

  Week 4 Week 3  Week 1 Change from previous week Change From Start of Season

UT

2

2

2

0

0

OU

10

12

3

2

-7

OSU

17

18

7

1

-10

KU

19

20

20

1

1

MU

26

30

47

4

21

NU

27

21

21

-6

-6

TTU

39

29

29

-10

-10

BU

59

54

69

-5

10

TAMU

63

68

74

5

11

ISU

78

85

93

7

15

KSU

90

88

80

-2

-10

CU

92

101

49

9

-43

Week 4:  Big 12 Strength of Schedule

In the ever-volatile world of Strength of Schedule which seems to change by as much as 59 points from week to week, your Red Raiders have escaped the cellar and graduated to the 80s along with UT – for now.

 

  Week 4 Week 3  Week 2 Change from previous week Change From Week 2*

BU

20

3

13

-17

-7

KU

35

81

81

46

46

KSU

45

104

104

59

59

OU

54

35

79

-19

25

MU

56

11

19

-45

-37

OSU

63

13

98

-50

35

ISU

66

105

105

39

39

NU

76

52

38

-24

-38

UT

84

54

10

-30

-74

TTU

86

106

106

20

20

CU

105

95

62

-10

-43

TAMU

116

57

82

-59

-34

* Week 1 figures not available

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i wonder

if we’ll even be considered close to the top 25 after beating the @#$( out of U of H this weekend….

Did anyone hear Herbstreet on the GAC show (ESPN RADIO)? He loves his longhorns.

by bleedredandblack on Sep 24, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe and, uh, no. I try to avoid Herbie the vacuum-minded talking head as much as possible.

TTpilk

by TTpilk645 on Sep 24, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Herbie has a gag reflex, at all

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Sep 24, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s the way most casual observers on the coasts see us, IMO: Tech is a perennial 7-5, 8-4 team that played over its head the last year or two because of a few great skill players. Those players are now gone and much like Kansas St. a few years ago, Tech will return to mediocrity without them. Yeah, Potts and the passing game look good but Tech leads the nation in passing every year whether the team is any good or not. It’s just their system that puts up those numbers. Passing is what you do when you don’t have the talent to field a complete team. And we all remember the humiliation OU put on them last year.

Tech hasn’t shown us anything this year (points against Rice don’t count). If it weren’t for UT’s habit of starting games slowly this year, they would have blown Tech out of the water. Once they got cranked up in the 2nd half, they scored on every possession but two (and one of those was a silly INT by McCoy). After being completely shut down the 1st half, Tech managed to score 21 in the 2nd, but that’s still less than the typical Tech team scores in Austin. Bottom line – when the game was on the line, Tech folded like always. And they can’t run the ball to save their souls after the big talent left.

Obviously, we think this is hogwash; but just as obviously most folks around the country don’t. We’ve got a lot to prove to the world (and to ourselves) this Saturday.

by TechFirst on Sep 24, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m still baffled by the “pass because you don’t have talent” angle. Was listening to Troy Aikman on the radio this morning and he made a statement that the whole “you have to run and stop the run to be a champion” is a lot of hot air still perpetrated by “traditionalists”. I don’t know how many years of turnover we’ll need in the coaching and media types in order for that thinking to go away.
I would throw out the example of the 1999 St Louis Rams as a team with talent that won a championship based heavily in the passing game. How heavy? Marshall Faulk finished with more receiving yards (1381) than rushing yards (1048).
So are we to believe that Amy is the most talented team in the nation because they don’t pass?
Such horrible arguments to justify shooting down a non-traditional (in play-calling and in name) team on the rise.
[I know, I know…preaching to the choir : ) ]

by TracySaulRulz on Sep 24, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can you name the last team that didn't have a running game of some type that won the national championship?

I will agree that the idea that you have to establish the run to set up the passing game has completely changed in the past 20 years, but being able to run the ball and stop the run are fundamental to football.

If you can’t stop the run, you won’t win games. Where being able to run the ball comes in most handy is inside the red zone, where the field is shortened, and the defense can squeeze you to death. Funny that Aikman would make that statement considering how well he did with a strong running game with Emmitt Smith and Moose Johnston leading the way.

by Beergut on Sep 24, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would say I agree with you somewhat. You have to be able to stop the run (and we are doing a great job so far and did pretty well last year). That is a must. However the discussion always centers around the offense so lets talk about running the ball. Being able to run in the red zone is extremely important. And if you can run and pass then your offense is that much better. However, as you say, you don’t have to run to set up the pass. Certainly not in college.

So yeah I’d say you have to be able to stop the run to win a championship. And you have to have some running game. For instance Tech’s running game last year was more than ample enough to win a championship. I guess the jury is still out on this years squad in that respect. But to suggest you have to have an even balance is totally wrong. I would bet that Florida, OU, UT, and the other top teams have more passing yards than rushing. I guess I could look this up but I don’t have time right now.

by logan5555 on Sep 24, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The running game does more for an offense than just gain yards. It keeps the defenses honest. If we keep rushing like we have been, everyone will know they can just tee off on the QB and play nickel or dime packages schemed to stop the short passes.

by TechFirst on Sep 24, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like our style

During my days in the Tech Army ROTC program, I participate in Ranger Challenge. Our motto was, “Quiet Professionalism” meaning do your job and let it speak for you.

We will continue to win and the media will have to notice our performance. The TU game was a microcosm of this. During the Gameday show, Herbie dropped hints of a blowout. But afterwards, he noted that Tech was an overlooked team this year.

I fully expect that if we put up the same effort for the rest of the season that we did last Saturday, we will not lose another game. Respect and rankings will come.

Quiet Professionalism!

by Red Raider in South GA on Sep 24, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Troy Aikman is smart

At least I think he is now. After thinking about these same themes (running game, perceived bad defense, the annoying ‘time of possession’ critics) as they relate to Tech, I’ve decided this is simply a defense mechinism. Basically the talking heads in the media can’t figure out how to classify Tech’s offense and results, so they look for the easy way out.
Classic example, Saturday night telecast just before the end of the half. Herbie in the booth throwing out some wild idea about coach Leach calling pass plays to “pad our offensive statistics”. Huh? Seriously?
Stupidest thing I heard from him in some time. Tech will get their yards. You play to win the game, ALWAYS.

This is the kinda of statement that causes people to call out or speculate about ESPN having some sort of agenda. It’s irresponsible in my opinion. But it is an easy way out in terms of explanation of an unconventional move or decision.

I’m with RR in South GA, Quiet Professionalism.

by imisswesttexas on Sep 24, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Re:
This ladies and gentlemen is the perfect of example of why teams decide not to schedule tough non-conference opponents, because they are disproportionately penalized for losses while wins over teams like Furman offer the opportunity to move up 2 to 3 points every week.

I’m not disagreeing that this is the psychology of why teams schedule patsies (though I would add it is one of a number of reasons) but would dispute that it’s the correct strategy. OU’s superior non-conference schedule is what catapulted them ahead of Texas last season, despite the latter having a tougher conference schedule. Without wins over Cincy and TCU (right?) OU doesn’t go to the National Championship game. A victory over a University of Houston could be the reason we move ahead of the likes of OSU or even a UT or OU later in the season with an identical record — although I would caveat by stating that I am by no means predicting a similar record to any of those teams.

But let’s be clear: OU went to the NC at 11-1 despite losing to the University of Texas by 10 points on neutral field. We lost to Texas by 10 points in their home, we could have a road victory over a ranked opponent by Saturday, and if we’re near the end of our season with only one or two conference losses, we’ll be in a much better position to accomplish a Big 12 Championship than we would had we scheduled, say, Idaho State in Houston’s stead.

Put differently, without the University of Houston on our non-con schedule, we would have NO chance of participating in a Big 12 Championship against conference opponents with identical records.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Sep 24, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you beat Houston, they will not be ranked

It’s possible they will climb back into the rankings at some point, but they will have to win out.

by Texas Wahoo on Sep 24, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHO CARES

Tech just needs to win games.
I think Tech’s schedule is very tough with road games at #2 UT, #17 UH, #24 NU and at #16 OSU. They also play #20 KU and #9 OU at home. Now those ranking can change but at this point Tech’s schedule looks to be one of the hardest in the Big 12 with 6 games against ranked teams.

by GPD on Sep 25, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I'm not worthy. Really.

by Campeador on Sep 26, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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