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Post Game Thoughts :: Houston Cougars Edition

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The Result :: Beyond Frustrating: First off, a really patient game by Houston and the Cougars deserve credit for taking what the defense gave them. One of my reasons why Texas Tech would lose this game was that if Houston was willing to be patient, and they didn't seem to get settled until the 4th quarter, then the bend but don't break defense was susceptible to giving up yards and points. Houston is a very good team. Their defense still needs work (pot, meet kettle) and is undersized, but Sumlin is a damn fine coach and I'd be proud to have him on my sideline.

On to our beloved Red Raiders. Let's all just take a step back and consider a couple of plays and player situations before we start benching everyone. Part of the reason I have a tough time posting, even during games is that I'm a tad emotion, that is if you consider emotional me being on the verge of vomit during a game. It's my personality, I'm trying to be better not getting so worked up. I'd also say that I tend not to post after games because sometimes, we need a night to let things settle. For those ready to bench QB Taylor Potts that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but if you want to bench Potts for his mistakes, then you had better be ready to bench just about the entire team for their mistakes up and down the field.  Yes, a quarterback's play has a direct correlation on the rest of the team, but Potts wasn't the only player that made bad decisions.  That's not to say that there wasn't good plays and players improved, but the truth of the matter is that no player is without fault. No player played perfect.

And despite the tough game, this is what Leach had to say after the game about Potts:

"I thought he played really well. He had the focus and the tempo. Sometime he played a little bit tentatively. The numbers suggest he played really well, but he could have played a little bit better. But, the biggest thing is the last two games he's played in two of the toughest situations of any quarterback I've ever had. This being his fourth game, he's probably performed as good as anybody I've had. The best thing he can do is circle the wagons, expect good things to happen, and approach it with great tempo. We we're a little inconsistent on that."

That's the funny thing about this maturation process, is that we all have these expectations of where this team is headed, but the truth is that sometimes, these things take a while to take hold. Last Sunday, Potts was a tough S.O.B. who earned everyone's praise for picking his team back up and leading them down the field. It's funny how one game can change your perception as to whether or not Potts is still even capable of leading this team against New Mexico seems a bit much and I'm not ready to concede that Potts is an awful quarterback who can't get it done.

Personally, I'm not ready to give up on this team or these players. Was it a gut-punching loss? Damn straight, but there's a lot of football left to be played and despite this loss, the Big 12 South is far from over. Benching players who have played very well thus far seems like an over-reaction at this point.

If it were me, I'd say that it never should have come down to a Hail Mary at the end of the game and Potts having to lead his team without any timeouts.

4th and 1 from the UH 1, Part I: At the time, I wasn't sure who to blame for that abysmal call. The game was being played closely both both teams, sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor and although a touchdown would have been icing on the cake, sometimes you just have to take the points.

Here's two quotes that Mike Leach had after the game about that 4th and 1 call:

On the fourth-and-goal QB sneak:
"I called the play but there was a slight variation, but that doesn't change the fact. At that point in the game it was a better thing to do then send of the field goal team."

On the fourth-and-one:
"We needed to score and had a half of a yard, but in hindsight, I should have called for a field goal."

Potts didn't make that call.

It was Leach.

I'm a bit confused by his statement that during the game it was the right call, and that's how Leach always tends to roll, but the score that time was TTU 28, UH 23 with about 11 minutes left in the 4th quarter. If Leach goes for the field goal, then Houston has to score twice in order to win the game. By going for the touchdown, Leach put his team in a situation that they had to protect their endzone, again putting the defense in a tight situation. Getting that field goal would have meant that Houston would have been on the heels a bit more, needing to score twice. And for the record, I understand that statistically, it is an advantage to go for it in most situations, but this field goal puts UH on their heels as opposed to the Texas Tech defense having to absolutely make a stop.

That's not smart football.

4th and 1 from the UH 1, Part II: Leach admitted that he called the quarterback sneak, but isn't there inherently a bigger problem here. Prior to this point, the running game had found some daylight and the group was having success against a poor Houston rush defense. I get that the QB sneak is one of Leach's favorite plays in a short yardage situation, but why not give it to the guys who got you there? For two straight plays, the Cougars had gotten underneath the Texas Tech offensive line and I would have loved to have seen one of two things happen on one of those 4 downs. Last year, the slant inside was a huge part of the redzone offense and it seems as if this year's team lacks that option. It would have been nice to see Detron Lewis over-power a receiver in that situation, but what I would have truly liked was to have seen the offensive line give one additional shot the the running backs that were instrumental in this game, perhaps over the top of the line.

Alas, as stated above, the quarterback sneak was Leach's call. He's the one living with that decision.

Keenum Rushing: Houston QB Case Keenum keyed the last two drives (one of those drives being an interception) in part because he had completed passes all night long, but the other part of it is that his wheels is what put Texas Tech on edge. It occured to me during those last two drives that McNeill really needed to just rush 3 and leave one guy, probably Bront Bird or Marlon Williams to read if and where Keenum might run. Keenum seemed dead-set on looking down the field, but if it was open, that he had the green light to take off down the field. Keenum bailed Houston out of one crucial 3rd down situation and one 4th down situation. I don't know if Bird and Williams are fast enough to keep pace with Keenum, but it just seemed that rather than give Keenum an escape route for a first down and eventually a touchdown, that having one player dedicated to containing Keenum seemed like a good idea.

Return of the Running Game: Silver lining, folks. The running backs and the offensive line were huge on Saturday as they opened up enough rushing lanes for 191 yards on 28 carries. Baron Batch looked like his old self, while Harrison Jeffers demonstrated how explosive he can be and Eric Stephens, despite an awful fumble, was still very solid. Perhaps it was the offensive line, where offensive line coach Moore, tried another offensive line combination, perhaps the combination he started with at the first of the year, with Terry McDaniel at LT, Chris Olson at LG, Shawn Byrnes at C, Brandon Carter at RG and Marlon Winn at RT. I'm going to have to go back and watch the game, but I think Leach leaned on the right side of his line, which is why Moore put the Carter-Winn combination back together a few weeks ago. The thinking was that if there was some continuity along the line, that perhaps it would eventually open up some running lanes. This makes me wish that McDaniel was starting from the beginning as I thought he was very solid in his first start. I think there's still work to be done. As far as the actual backs themselves, I hope like hell the running backs watch Baron Batch find those lanes inside the line. Not everything needs to be bounced outside.

Timeout Mismanagement: Perhaps this irks me more than just about anything else. The first timeout of the second half came with 7:51 left in the 3rd quarter and Houston is on the Texas Tech 3 yard line. I understand that McNeill is trying to save a touchdown here, perhaps one of his come-to-Jesus timeouts where he reads them the riot act, or perhaps he wanted to get in a different package of players, but what's the cost-benefit of calling this time-out so early in the 2nd half, especially where the teams appeared to be going back and forth quite a bit.

The 2nd time-out of the half was at the Texas Tech 21 yard line, 2nd and 1 with 0:56 left in the 3rd quarter. Again, the same question applies here. What's the point? On the very next play, Keenum had a simple draw play for 17 yards and an easy first and goal from the Texas Tech 4.

The third time-out was during the ill-fated 4 downs from the Houston 7 where Potts couldn't punch it in on the quarterback sneak (referenced above). In this case, the play clock was about to expire and had Potts not called the time-out, then Texas Tech is backed up to their own 9 yard line. For some reason, I seem to recall that there was some confusion as to which personnel package was to be used on that next play.

There's got to be something to be said about the team figuring it out and if there's anything to take away with the way that Bob Knight managed a game is that he'd let his players play the way they've been coached and would not call a timeout to set up plays. It just seems strange that with TV timeouts and everything else, that McNeill would needs these timeouts continually over each game.

The Offensive MVP :: Baron Batch: Despite the loss, I think it's good to look back and discuss the good that happened, not just all of the bad. Baron Batch looked like the Baron Batch of 2008. To be honest, I was shocked to see him run so well after three weeks of running poorly. Running over defenders, knocking off helmets, and getting yards after first contact. I think I may speak for the group here, but let's hope this continues the rest of the way.

The Defensive Co-MVP's :: Daniel Howard and Cody Davis: Neither player had perfect games, in fact, Howard took responsibility for the final drive where Keenum scored:

On the last drive:
"I put that on my back. I had opportunities to stop the drive. That's my fault."

Leaders take responsibility and I can apprecaite that, but the truth is that Howard didn't come off the field and he was consistently the best pass-rusher on the field. Howard finished with 11 tackles and 1.5 sacks.

I know, Davis had some trouble down the field, and there was one play where Davis failed to look back on the ball, but Davis was in on 15 tackles last night (as was Brian Duncan) and Davis did the one thing that he was supposed to do, which is not give up a long touchdown. Yep, yards were gained and passes were completed but Davis is playing better than a redshirt freshman should play. He's not the most athletic free-safety I've ever seen, but he does his job well and whenever he gets a chance he'll take one for the team and try to lay out a receiver, let the receiver know he's there.

The Special Teams MVP :: Ryan Erxleben: This is the second week in a row that Erxleben has earned this honor, but it's the second week in a row that he's been forced into action to dig the offense out of some holes and the second week that special teams hasn't been anything to write home about. In his second game of his young college career, Erxleben averaged 46.4 yards a punt and looked good doing it.

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Good write up Seth,

I agree that we shouldn’t give up on Potts. He can lead this team.

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by KWashburn on Sep 27, 2009 7:48 AM CDT reply actions  

i disagree with you… lets give out potts and put on sheffield or doedge or jacob karam! or lets look for a fan on our half time to throw a ball, just like matt williams.. he turned out pretty good

by cfraider on Sep 27, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, let’s prove to Leach that we know better than him.

I'm not worthy. Really.

by Campeador on Sep 27, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said Seth,

The best quote of the day "Support your team, don’t back down, and NEVER QUIT!!" KWashburn

Thanks for bringing me back to where I need to be.

by ezed on Sep 27, 2009 8:40 AM CDT reply actions  

anytime bud, anytime!!

On a side note, the University Website has Zouzalik (sp) listed playing receiver and free safety last night…….. anybody?

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by KWashburn on Sep 27, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Suggestion for easy fixes...

- Take the the 4th down-punting situation-lineup to draw offsides and call a time out play out of the playbook. Never works and burns a T.O.

- Take the QB sneak at the goal line out of the play book.

- Leach should take the FG kicker to lunch, get to know him, get some confidence in him, and USE HIM!

by natkcole on Sep 27, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

This was a terrible loss, one that should have been an easy win. Because of Leach’s and McNeil’s ridiculous play-calling, Tech lost. I thought they both had improved, but they both took a step back last night. Seth, you already covered Leach’s bad play selection. As for McNeil, where were the blitz packages he introduced last week. I think he went back to being fuddy duddy Mac, probably because of the return of the three DEs. He needs to keep coming with some blitzes. I do not recall any being called last night. Also, as Seth mentioned, who the heck was supposed to be covering the QB? Everyone knew he could run. COVER HIM! Lastly, the defensive line was horrible when rushing the QB. Absolutely no pressure to speak of. As much as I thought this team could be a really great one, the above things need to desperately be addressed if they expect to finish with a flourish. If not, the dreaded 7-win season is looming, as we are going to be facing some more pretty good teams down the line, none of which looks like a sure win anymore.

TTpilk

by TTpilk645 on Sep 27, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Ruffin should be forced to play without a couple starters every week

just so he can’t play his base defense for entire quarters

by mojavereject on Sep 27, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Jeffers!!!!

the one guy that looked to be unstoppable was only given 6 touches (4 run & 2 pass). If he can’t pass block just give him the ball!!!!! The QB sneak business needs to be pulled out of the play book unless they actually use that formation for something else.

by ashton99 on Sep 27, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions  

agreee

he is just amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!11

by cfraider on Sep 27, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

I was hoping that this had all been just a bad dream. What irks me the most is that as inconsistently as the team played, they could still have won this game but for coaching errors. Also, I can’t help but think about Potts calling that last timeout instead of taking a 5 yard delay of game penalty AND HOW MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE OUR OFFENSE IS 9 YARDS AWAY FROM THE GOAL LINE THAN 1 OH GOD THE PAIN

by mojavereject on Sep 27, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

“OH GOD THE PAIN” pretty much sums it up for me.

by merrik on Sep 27, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

4th and Goal QB Sneak
“I called the play but there was a slight variation, but that doesn’t change the fact. At that point in the game it was a better thing to do then send of the field goal team.”


I said last night that Leach calls the formation and play. Potts makes a read and does the variation. But who runs standing up tall in that type of a play?

The offense Line should have blown the defense back 3 yards too. But its something that I chalk up to lack of experience. I guess no one ever taught the right way to do a QB sneak before this season to Potts. So its on Leach.

But I make this last statement now that Leach has circled the wagons for Potts. If North Dakota was the preverbial bad game…….. Now what is the excuse from Leach about player performaces. Nevada last year was a simular performace game. But now we have seen it three times this type of performace this year.

Thus when you see it more than twice, its where the team really is. Its not some fluke or bad game.

by Pablo M on Sep 27, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Could you be anymore down on somebody?

Lord help you if we win down the stretch, because I’m going to give you hell about this!!

In good fun of course……

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by KWashburn on Sep 27, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will eat what you give if they go undefeated!!

But think about what I am being critical about?

Am I being critical about Potts the player? No. What I am talking about is those things which is taught or experience brings out.

Maybe because I learned most of that stuff back early in High School and Potts never was taught. Who knows. But the issue is that players must improve! Must learn from mistakes. That is my song and I will stand by it.

It is not ok to lose. LET ME REPEAT! Its not ok to Lose! So I hate people who try to smooth over a loss as no big deal. It is a big deal! The sooner the players and fans understand that principle, the more motivated everyone is to never let it happen and the effort level goes up.

When you see a player not improving you have to say what is going on. Why is his head not in the game? And so forth.

That is what I am referring to. Do I hate Potts? No. If anyone wants to go back and look at my original preseason assessment of Potts, I ask you to do it now.

I said then that Potts has issues and is not showing to me that he is the best QB I think we have. I am not Head Coach so its only my appraisal of Potts ability. But Leach never backs away from his choice for good or ill. I accept that. But I can challenge it for the good of the program!

As I pointed out to Seth, I have accepted that Potts is the QB for this season. He will start all the games bar being injured. But the truth is that sometimes you have to wake a guy up. Leach did it to Harrell and it worked. Harrell got his head on straight and played lights out the rest of the season.

So its not unheard of. Benching Potts is not replacing Potts. Lets keep that in mind.

by Pablo M on Sep 28, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seth, I love your optimism. But the Big XII south is no longer in play for Tech. You know it, I know it. We may very well end up with losses to aTM, OU, Neb, Kansas and maybe even Baylor. 7-5 is probable, 8-4 if we get things straight, 9-3 if we catch every possible break in every game.

I thought 8-4 was likely at the beginning. I was suckered by Potts’ toughness last week. Still think he’s tough as nails. Still think he makes way too many mental mistakes for this team to experience a high level of success this season. He’ll improve, but it won’t be enough to make a huge impact this year. If the pocket presence doesn’t improve by leaps and bounds, this season could be very ugly.

We are what we are.

by Tech92 on Sep 27, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I'll take 9-3, I'm willing to run with you on that one....

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by KWashburn on Sep 27, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's hard to accept...

but I completely agree with you. This team is not the ’08 group and needs great improvement to reach that level of play. I see at least 4 losses on the horizon. Sucks.

by Raider1992 on Sep 27, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see it that way.

Tech took two teams with every advantage over them down to the wire. Tech had just lost a close one to the number 2 team in the nation leaving everything on the field. One week later they were back in 120% humidity of Houston. Houston had two weeks of rest and preparation for Tech and as the number 17 team in the nation barely took a one point win. Now either Houston is not as good as everyone thinks or Tech just plain sucks. If Tech would just take care of penalties and dumb mistakes they win this game. Texas Tech is just proving the old adage the easiest way to beat a superior opponent is to let them beat themselves, and Tech is allowing it to happen.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Sep 27, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

120% Humidity

That is conditioning of the players. Thus it should not have been a factor. It goes back to desire, want and drive to be the best.

We played sloppy. Our offense never really got its head in the game. Yea we got lots of yards. But the effect is we did not finish drives and score TDs. That is a major mental problem offensively speaking.

Not trashing here. But pointing out something that is so easy to fix given the right leadership and motivation.

by Pablo M on Sep 28, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

How it that conditioning of the players?

You can’t condition for humidity when Lubbock is so dry. All you can do is drink fluids and try and stay hydrated. Any game that is played that far south has players falling out due to hydration, on both teams.

How the hell was to Texas supposed to “condition” for their game against Wyoming? Start practicing far above sea level with an abnormal density altitude? I don’t think so. That’s what some call home field advantage. That’s why it’s always a pain in the ass to play in Greenbay in the winter if you’re from a southern team.

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by KWashburn on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

Its easier for conditioning for humidity in a dryer climate. May seem wrong or backwards. But its darn impossible for anyone to do it for a Dry climate.

This is why so many NFL teams went to Arizona or looking for other very dry places to practice. Its why every year you have some NFL team look at Texas Tech facilities for Off Season conditioning and so forth.

The truth is that humidity is not a factor or no more of a factor or anything else. Tech’s conditioning looked good from my stand point. I mean, Our defense was under the gun for 94 offensive plays. That is a lot. I think the record is 121 plays.

But wether it was 109 in the Jones at 3pm or 83 and 98% humidity in Houston at 9pm it was not a factor in our loss.

by Pablo M on Sep 29, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree but I'll leave it at that......

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by KWashburn on Sep 29, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

All that talk about...

the humidity or elements is crap. You need to win on the road and their team faced the same conditions we did. They flat out out-played us and out coached us. Losing by any margin of points is a loss. Forget how close we play people as we need to come away with a win or it’s worthless. This is the Big 12 south and losing to a con USA team is unacceptable if you want to win in this league.

by Raider1992 on Sep 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

It either is or it is not.
I’m a bit confused by his statement that during the game it was the right call, and that’s how Leach always tends to roll, but the score that time was TTU 28, UH 23 with about 11 minutes left in the 4th quarter. If Leach goes for the field goal, then Houston has to score twice in order to win the game. By going for the touchdown, Leach put his team in a situation that they had to protect their endzone, again putting the defense in a tight situation. Getting that field goal would have meant that Houston would have been on the heels a bit more, needing to score twice. And for the record, I understand that statistically, it is an advantage to go for it in most situations, but this field goal puts UH on their heels as opposed to the Texas Tech defense having to absolutely make a stop.

That’s not smart football.

I think it is smart football. It either is smart football or it is not. It cannot be the case that it is the wrong call when we don’t get it, but the right call when we do. I believe that is what Leach is saying.

We get the points, it’s 35-23 and we’re at their jugular. All the reasons that we just flat out needed those three points justified the needing of a 35-23 lead. We have a tired defense that historically gives up points against a phenomenal offense that is rolling over everyone they play. On the road. You don’t usually win those games with three points. It’s unfortunate that this happened to be the game that we would have won (MAYBE — THAT NEEDS TO BE STRESSED) had we those three points.

Field goals are a bad call, statistically. Most coaches send out the FG unit for precisely this reason: Coaches who deviate from the standard play calling maneuvers are criticized in disproportionate measure after losses than those rewards flowing from close wins after gutsy calls. A good coach shouldn’t give a shit about post-game criticism flowing from anomalous statistical circumstances. A good coach grabs his balls and says the FG unit isn’t going to do it for me, today.

Statistically speaking
, that’s the right call.

A lot of people don’t agree with that call. But it’s not going to be right or wrong because it was unsuccessful. It’s going to be right or wrong because it did not work in that particular instance. We either have a coach who is habitually wrong or we have a coach who has adopted a winning strategy that sometimes does not work. But it can’t be the case that we get the gutsy coach and the stupid coach. He made a decision that I think is totally justifiable, and whether or not I’m right has nothing to do with whether we got that yard.

Just my two cents.

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by Skin Patrol on Sep 27, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Er...
It’s NOT going to be right or wrong because it did not work in that particular instance.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Sep 27, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

as much as it pains me to still admit this now...

touchdowns wins games, field goals keep coaches’ jobs

I support the decision, just not the play call

by kevinkinsler on Sep 27, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone calling for Leach’s head after this game needs to calm the F down. Whether you agree with the decision or not (and let’s be honest for at least a second, if you don’t think the call is 50/50 to go for it from Leach, then obviously you’re new to the “fanbase” anyway) Houston is still a good (not great IMO) team but we can still do well over the season. Can we at least play a full season before screaming for the head of a coach who is (overall) doing a good job and has us worked up enough to be calling for his head after a loss to #17 Houston?

by HeeroTX on Sep 27, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

um, when did I ever call for his head

going for it there is why I love the guy. You can’t expect your players to play with balls if you don’t coach with balls, i.e. Wade Phillips

by kevinkinsler on Sep 27, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry,

did I misread this bit:
“touchdowns wins games, field goals keep coaches’ jobs”

Did you mean that cynically like “winners go for it, guys who don’t want to get fired kick the 3”.

Also, I WANTED Leach to go for, (as awful as it is to say) because we needed the points if we were going to crack the top 25. A narrow win would have left people thinking “Houston is overrated” more than “Texas Tech played great”. A strong win gets us more credit.

by HeeroTX on Sep 27, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, I see your inferrence

and yes, winners go for it.

I remember Leach trying too many times in the past to use field goals to keep up with OU’s TD’s (2006) and it just didn’t work. of course, we were in the lead this time, so that might have dictated timidity among some coaches, but give me the chance for the TD anytime

by kevinkinsler on Sep 27, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

nobody is calling for his head...

but we definitely have a right to be critical of his play calling on that 4th down. I love Leach but he was out coached in this game completely. I not throwing him under any buses either but lets face facts. It was stupidity not to go for the secure 8 point game on the 4th down. Face facts people.

by Raider1992 on Sep 27, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Compelling argument.
Face facts people.

That’s really fair.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Sep 27, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anybody...

is calling for his job here. he made an awful decision that cost Tech the game. He admits that and we’ll all move on. The FG was the right call no matter how you look that this game. 8 Points ahead would have been enough to force them to a 2 pt. conversion and possibly OT if successful. Bad Call!!!

by Raider1992 on Sep 28, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mad but over it

Everybody take a deep breath. First it’s a game right? Second its college not pros right? Third how much better can you get if you are Houston? I mean who plays their progeny in 100% humidity, at their place with a veteran opposition quarterback (who is a good as your last years senior QB i.e. G. Harrell ), after you have been knicked up in arguably the toughest game of the year for this squad? Everybody take a deep breath. It’s just the beginning stanza of the second 4 game stretch coming up. No doubt the Raider pick themselves up, dust off the grass, blood and sweat and get after the next opponents. The Raiders have a persona, they have guts, character and cojones. So let’s forget this one – learn from it Coach Leach(damn gambler) – get going on the next enemies of the Raider nation and have some fun. OBTW just as a ceremonial hand wringing in a second guessing sort of way we did win this one i.e. J. Wall successfully intercepted the UH 2 x point conversion. That is if you assume Matt Williams hits the 4th quarter field goal vice running a stinking QB sneak. Ugh!. There are no guarantees. .but I still love the Raiders. On to the next series in the 09 campaign. "Row well and live"

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by centexraider on Sep 27, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Discouraging

Yes Very! But not the end of the season. If we are fighters and as disgusted at losing as we should be this is just motivation to win. The old days of accepting loses and trashing OUR program should be over. Have faith in Leach Potts, Ruff and all the rest, don’t be a fair weather a hole.

by Gus Mitchem on Sep 27, 2009 11:47 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Exactly, like I said earlier...

Take your butt somewhere else if you can’t support your team….

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by KWashburn on Sep 27, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

well..

On the “silver lining” side, I think it says a lot about our program that some people are actually calling for the head of our coach after we lose to the #17 team in the country. I expected this to be a transition year and we’re on track for that. If we extrapolate (which never reallys works, but…) that UH is better than OSU then we can still make my initial projections and we can still come out #2 (or even #1 with a LOT of help) in the Big 12 South. Luckily this doesn’t affect our conference record.

As for the game itself, this one hurt, BAD. We knew we could win this game, we were about to win this game but in the end we lost. That leaves a bad taste in the mouth. I can only hope it leaves an awful taste in the mouths of the players and they buckle down for the rest of the stretch.

Re: 4th & Goal – I agree with Skin Patrol. I actually like the call to go for it, but HATE the play call. Hand off to Batch or WORST CASE, Potts should’ve done a read, heck when he hit the line and had no push he should’ve pitched back to Batch, let Batch try. I appreciate the second effort, but it was a waste of time.

But I like the call because we needed a strong win. Say all you want about “just get the W” blah blah. But one thing we DO need to fix is that we need to FINISH teams. If we get the TD then UH’s playcalling shifts dramatically because desperation becomes a factor. You can argue that the entire game momentum shits on that one play, and you’d have a point. But here’s two points that should be considered:
-If we can’t get a 1 yd TD against Houston, then we had no right to win that game. (We didn’t, and we lost)
-Even if we can’t get the TD (which we didn’t) we should be able to get a safety (or at WORST) a 3 and out, from a drive starting on the 1 yard line for Houston. (but we did not)

In the end, this game falls SQUARELY on the lines. PERIOD, IMO. If we still had Rylan Reed and Louis Vazquez, I’ll bet Potts goes 42-50 or better. Potts needs to get better about his progressions, but he had too many plays where he simply could NOT step up due to a collapsing pocket. If we think we’re better than Houston (in terms of team and “talent”) then we should NOT be losing to smaller guys on the O-Line, end of story.

On Defense, it is inexcusable that we pretty much never got a hand on Keenum in the pocket (maybe we got ONE hand on him, like twice all night). From what I watched, both teams knew what the other was doing in the secondary, but ONE team was able to disrupt the receivers AND the quarterback, and the other was only able to disrupt the receivers. I don’t know if it’s lack of experience or if our guys really can’t handle a lot, but the only thing I can think of is that we were trying to do too much. We looked slow and confused in their backfield and I don’t think I EVER saw more than one defender (at a time) within 5 feet of Chase Keenum.

Bottom line, we should have done better, we CAN do better and I can only hope we WILL do better. So let’s take this loss and a lesson and something to motivate the team for the rest of the year.

  • - Much like where I satrted, I think it should also be noted that we ARE playing lots of new starters, we need to root for our guys and push them to IMPROVE, but we should also understand that it’s a process.

by HeeroTX on Sep 27, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

4th and goal playcall:

Leach should have called a Pitch to the left. We had 1 receiver and they had 1 defensive back. If our WR holds the defender, it’s a TD. If not, Batch runs over said defender for a TD. That would have been the nail in the coffin.

by techfan5730 on Sep 27, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a good game

Potts did well for his 2nd game on the road in front of a sellout crowd on national TV. The running game reemerged. The D looked good most of the game. I felt like the D was really wiped out at the end. They gave it their all. I wondered if they had rotated the D linemen in and out to keep them fresh. I thought that the O line did great. Potts missed some wide open guys, but it was a bowl game atmosphere there and he will only get better.

The coogs were well coached and prepared for this game. I like how they run effectively out of the spread – Tech might study those running plays and incorporate some of them. Coogs have some really solid running backs…

by DoubleT on Sep 27, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Still consider...

We showed up against Texas on the road and made them play 4 qtrs. We went on the road against a ranked team that beat OSU at home and took it down to the wire in a great game. So, we’re better than OSU and just below Texas, technically. And I don’t think we’re as good as we are going to be right now. The Big XII is still open for us.

Keep hope alive!

by natkcole on Sep 27, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Bad coaching lost...

this game. I’m a huge Leach supporter but the 4th down gamble in a must win game on the road against a ranked team is just plain stupid. We would have been ranked with all the ranked teams losing Saturday. As far as I’m concerned the players did what they could and our captain cost us this game. I could also argue the same for the UT game in a couple of instances on 4th down but I won’t even go there. Mike needs to realize that last seasons team may have been able to convert these 4th downs but this group isn’t seasoned enough to handle that pressure. This game should have been Tech’s victory and could have been with some smart coaching.

by Raider1992 on Sep 27, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

cannot disagree more

If we beat UH by a narrow 2 pt margin I don’t think we are ranked today. We started the season “got votes, outside the top 25”. We beat North Dakota and a few top 25 lost, where were we ranked the next week “got votes, outside the top 25” We beat Rice handily the next week, more top 25 lost, where were we ranked? “got votes, outside the top 25” Heck, Houston beat OSU and yet many people still ranked OSU above UH. If we beat UH 31-29 I think everyone the next morning just talks about how Houston couldn’t handle being ranked and they were being overrated, and we’d still be “got votes, outside the top 25”

That’s why I supported the decision (again, not the call tho) and why we needed more points.

by HeeroTX on Sep 27, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree to disagree...

as I think Tech would have made it in to the top 25 had they won by any margin of points against a ranked team. The number of teams falling out would have helped our cause as well.

by Raider1992 on Sep 27, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

just to point out...

Current NEW additions to the AP top 25 (ie. were not ranked prior to this week’s rankings)

  1. Iowa (Beat prev. #5 Penn St)
  2. Oregon (Beat prev. #6 Cal)
  3. Ga. Tech (Ranked earlier in the season, back up after beating #22 UNC)

Top 3 “also got votes”:

  1. Missouri 175 (currently undefeated)
  2. Auburn 171 (currently undefeated)
  3. South Carolina 154 (beat prev. #4 Ole Miss)

USA Today top 25 looks even worse since only “new” arrivals are Iowa and Oregon. So why do you think we’d have cracked the top 25? I was sure we’d have cracked the top 25 after week 2 when we were undefeated and “got votes” the previous two polls, but we just spun in place, and I think if we’d beaten Houston in a close game that’d just have been seen as “Houston was overrated” rather than “Tech is better than they were given credit”. Heck, half our own board was saying UT was overrated after the UT game rather than praising our team.

(But who knows what’s gonna happen now with the team in disarray it seems, altho looks like Baylor has it worse)

by HeeroTX on Sep 28, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Missed opportunity on the final Houston conversion attempt

I could strangle the Tech player who caught the interception on the extra two point attempt after Houston took a 1 point lead. He had open field in front of him & didn’t make an attempt to return the INT. I suspect he didn’t know that a return for score on a conversion attempt is worth 2 points. Which would have given the lead back to Tech. The guy just laid down after intercepting it.

Woulda coulda shoulda.

by mbrown603 on Sep 27, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I think he was going to his knees as he caught it and didn’t have the opportunity to run.

by kayakyakr on Sep 27, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought I’d be able to level-headedly post up grades, but this is the downside to becoming as invested in this damn game as I have. I won’t be posting grades up this week, largely because everything that I could say has already been said, to an effect.

I can add few minor things:
1) Eric Stephens is a steady player, but that fumble, the 2nd most important play in the game, in my opinion, is what you get with a true freshman.
2) The most important play of the game was a 2nd a 4 in the 4th quarter. Run the ball and you eat up clock and, with the way you were running it, probably get a first down. Throw the ball deep (which we didn’t try much of), and you take a shot at breaking the game open and ending it. Instead I think we saw Potts throw a short slant to a covered receiver who dropped the ball. Out of rhythm, the next play was also a short slant to a tightly covered receiver who dropped the ball. That 2nd down play wasted the opportunity to finish the game.
3) I hate our coverage tendencies. I think that we play man coverage but we play it so loose that it’s like receivers are running into zones. We’ve gotta play tighter coverage against a team that can actually throw the ball.

4) (And this is the most important thing, so pay attention) Pablo M, you need to lay off Potts. Like now.

by kayakyakr on Sep 27, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

And if he doesn’t lay off Potts are you going to beat him up? Ha-Ha-HA!!!

by Tech92 on Sep 27, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm tempted....

I got my arm broke for Whitlock and Co. during the Texas game last year….

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by KWashburn on Sep 27, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a reason that UofH is ranked at 17, they were a good football team, we out played them and we lost. It happens. The call on 4th and 1 was the right call to go for it, that would have put a dagger in their heart, as far as the QB sneak, well maybe we should have given it to a back. It is hard to sneak it on the goal line with 2 defenders playing the 1 technique. It was a tough game and that humidity took it’s toll on our guys, if you noticed all the cramping going on. We play the #2 team to within 10 and play #17 to a 1 pt margin, Come on, these guys are bustin their a@@ for you to watch, and most all of you give in return is negative criticism. We will be fine, just keep pullin for ’em. OBTW when was the last game you saw a DE with 11 tackles and 2 sacks with numerous Qb hurries, let alone how many times Case was chased out of the pocket running for his life? He is a good Qb.

by dbled53 on Sep 27, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Potts is our guy, and he's still learning

I think same can be said for Leach. Potts and Leach know what to do, just maybe unsure, like all of us, of what we have. I said last night that his decisions were not up to par. What I meant was that he, like all Tech QB’s, is in his learning curve. He will get quicker with his decisions and his reads. What a way to start your career playing your first two road games against good opponenents. Stay cool, guys, last year was no fluke. We’re almost to the point of reloading. Most of us were expecting around a nine win season, and for legit reasons, but many of us got our hopes up after Texas. This season is still in play, and next year will be awesome. I won’t stop rooting for our guys. Our guys are still young, and will get better.

by djollie111 on Sep 27, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Our new-found running game

is going to be sorely tested with the indefinite suspension of Carter. It’s taken us 1/3 of the season to try and get stable play from two new linemen and now we’ve got to find another. The upside? Next year (the year when we are supposed to be so good) we are going to have to replace Byrne, Carter, and Winn. I guess this way we can start the rebuilding a bit earlier than expected. sigh……

by TechFirst on Sep 27, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

House of Cards.

What is happening to our team?

¡Viva los Matadores!

by jwhitettu on Sep 28, 2009 3:09 AM CDT reply actions  

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