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In lieu of links, DTN has five questions (Well, actually, I do have one link, which is from LAJ's Don Williams, who says that S Franklin Mitchem broke his thumb on Saturday and his status for this week is unknown, while WR Derrick Mayes is getting some time at cornerback because the team is so thin at defensive back.).

1.  WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY? | Let's get to the elephant in the room, LAJ's Don Williams talked with OC Neal Brown about the quarterback situation and here's what he had to say about QB Taylor Potts:

"Potts early in the game missed some throws," Brown said. "He was off. I don’t know if he got too excited. I don’t know the reasons why, but he was off. Our receivers actually made some really hard catches on some balls that he threw, and he missed some other throws.

"And then in the second half, he held the ball a little too long and took some hits. I thought we’d go in a different direction there, because he was taking some hits and wasn’t real sharp."

And about QB Steven Sheffield:

"He ran around some times when he shouldn’t have," Brown said. "He threw the (interception) there when the ball shouldn’t even have been thrown in that direction late in the game. He’s got to get a little sharper, but I thought overall he did some good things."

I have no doubt that my tin-foil hat theory as to why Sheffield hasn't seen time is that he does things his way and that could set a really bad precedent for the coaching staff.  No matter, all I care about is this year and winning games this year, so if the staff decides to make the move to Sheffield, are you in favor of that move, or would you rather get even younger at that position and take a look at Seth Doege or Jacob Karam (Scotty Young is being redshirted and would seem silly to remove his redshirt at this point of the season)?

2.  IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT'S BEST RECEIVERS?  It's unfortunate that Sheffield cannot play cornerback because the Texas Tech defensive backfield needs some help.  After practices yesterday, both of the coordinators spoke and here's the non-transcript of DC James Willis:

James Willis:  Keep making adjustments and always ready to make adjustments.  Doing a good job of toughing this out.  Keep positive energy up, they enjoy playing the game.  Played fast in the beginning, we didn't make enough adjustments.  At the end, we were gassed a little bit.  TAMU QB Ryan Tannehill is a good quarterback and worked the offense.  Good to see turnovers and the kids are having fun and they competed well, but gave up too many yards and too many plays.  Wanted to affect the quarterback, not game-plan around WR Jeff Fuller.

So DC Willis' game-plan was to hassle the quarterback and force bad decisions rather than double-up TAMU WR Jeff Fuller.  The problem of course is that Texas Tech has had a tough time hassling any quarterback over the past few weeks and OLB Brian Duncan has hardly been mentioned in terms of sacking the quarterback.  If you're the defensive coordinator and you know that the personnel is very young and very inexperienced, do you gamble and try to get to the quarterback with a pass rush that hasn't been around in quite some time or do you double-team the opponents best receiver?

3.  IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON'T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR? | OC Neal Brown spoke yesterday as well, and here's his non-transcript:

Neal Brown:  Going to get more guys involved at running back, RB Aaron Crawford played well, but Baron Batch and Eric Stephens are beat up.  Harrison Jeffers played, but didn't play well.  WR Darrin Moore hopes to get some more time.  Offense hasn't played well and doesn't think that the offense isn't playing poorly, hasn't looked at stats, but still in top 25 in total offense, but it's not about playing hard and they did play hard, but about execution.  The offensive line is getting better, both QB's got hit.  Running game wasn't as good and had to throw the ball to catch up.

I asked this question yesterday and I didn't get too many responses, most likely because everyone is afraid of the answer, but if the general consensus is that they want OC Brown because you don't think that the offense is performing at the level you expect, however, if given another opportunity, does anyone believe that Tuberville would hire a more explosive offensive coordinator or a more conservative coordinator?  Should you be careful what you wish for?

4.  DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY? | AAS.com's Kirk Bohls mentions in his very first note the following about a potential successor for the Texas Tech athletic director position:

Texas' Butch Worley will be seriously considered to replace Gerald Myers as athletic director at Texas Tech, I'm told by a solid source. The senior associate AD at Texas could put himself in that conversation or might decide to stay in Austin and in the mix as a future successor to DeLoss Dodds in the next three years. Worley's 57th birthday is approaching, and after his 24 years at Texas, he could have to make a decision soon about possibly taking the Lubbock job, after Myers steps down next May.

I've heard this name too, or at the very least a reference to someone at UT that was high up the food chain.  I couldn't find any information on Worley, although at the UT website, he's right behind Deloss Dodds.  Does anyone know anything about Worley or if he even attended Texas Tech and does that matter?

5.  WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS? | I failed to mention this, but after the game, Tuberville had this to say about the difference between the offensive and defensive side of the ball:

"Right now, most of the guys with experience are playing on the offensive side of the ball," Tuberville said. "They’re the ones that have to help the defense out. It’s a team game, you can’t play without one side or the other. Those guys on defense are scratching and clawing."     

Maybe it's just me and me reading too much into a quote, but it seems as if Tuberville is starting to point fingers at the offensive side of the ball, despite the fact that the defense gave up 623 yards.  Tuberville talked about how the defense is giving a lot of effort, but I was listening to the radio broadcast for the Cowboys game yesterday, Babe Laufenberg said playing hard does or playing with effort not win games, playing well wins games.  Everyone keeps complaining about the offense, but the defense has been absolutely awful and has the 119th worst pass defense in the country (out of 120 teams) and it's not even close as the defense is now 113th in total defense (again, out of 120 teams).  If you had to blame one over another, are giving more credit to the offense or the defense for the 4-4 record?

I've copied and pasted the questions after the jump as well as some video from the DT . . . all after the jump.

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1.  WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?

2.  IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT'S BEST RECEIVERS?

3.  IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON'T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

4.  DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?

5.  WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

 

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1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?
I have been a Sheffield fan. I was the the game and Potts didnt play any worse than he had all season. He just doesn’t place the ball in a position for the RB or WR to get YAC. It’s typically to low or to the wrong shoulder which causes the reciever to lose momentum.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?
Tre Porter played the best of anyone that was matched up against Jeff Fuller. CB height was the biggest problem on Saturday not necessarily experience.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?
I am going to give Neal another season. Turnovers at some very critical points in games have killed this team.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?
His credentials look good but am worried that he would come for a year or two and then give Tech the David McWilliams treatment.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?
The bad defense while not acceptable seems to be related to lack of depth, a new scheme and playing a very young secondary. The D plays hard but wears down by the 3rd Qtr and then things get ugly.

The Offense struggles stem from slow starts(surprising for an experienced team) and ball security issues.

"Well I’m glad you picked us last, we put that on the bulletin board and maybe we can circle around that" - Neal Brown, Offensive Coordinator

by ttu_porters on Nov 1, 2010 6:42 AM CDT reply actions  

#4

Yes, David McWilliams-type departure worries me. He has a JD from TTU but that does not equate to any loyalty to Scarlet and Black – see all the non-Red Raiders in the Law School.

by EthansDaddy on Nov 1, 2010 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

#4

But, remember T. Jones, a UT grad and I think was associate AD at Ut, he steadied the TT ship after the bockrath screw-ups and was arguebly one of the better ADs we’ve had in the last 30 years

by xwvr on Nov 1, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Could have inside track on realignment if and when it comes

Worley could have insider information that would help Tech if and/or when realignment comes

I too worry about a David McWilliams scenario

I do not like or want ut personnel using Tech as a training center

NUTS - Never Underestimate TEAM Strength

by RndRckTTU on Nov 1, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?

Sheffield. I’ve been a supporter of Potts but what Brown said after the game makes me think that SS could have done better if he had been in the game longer. TP was throwing crappy passes. WRs were dropping balls, but TP was not getting the ball to them w/o an effort on the receiver to make the catch. Start Sticks against Mizzou, bring in TP if it doesn’t work…..better yet, let’s play Karam.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?

That’s some tough lovin…..but hell no! Fuller should have been double teamed. Tannehill’’s first collegiate start and we make him look like Johnny-Freakin-Unitas reincarnated….sickening.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

YES. Don’t fire Brown. Don’t fire any of the staff. Tuberville needs two more seasons to make this dog work. For all those those with their pirate costumes on, that miss Leachy-poo, get over it. Leach is a corpse to me, ain’t coming back. Leach had the #10 recruiting classes in our conference in 07 and 08. That’s 10th place out of 12 teams. Leach successfully mined Tubs chances when he was reported as saying “the 2010 team would be my best team” – ha!

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?

Austin College undergrad…TEXAS TECH JD!!!!

All the info on Butch: http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/072108abw.html

Worley was the NCAA enforcement point man on the SMU death penalty. Link: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/MYSA030307_01A_smu-clements_36d2bf0_html12919.html?showFullArticle=y

In 98, he was a finalist for AD at Ole Miss: http://www.olemisssports.com/genrel//050898aaa.html

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

Problem is both. Can’t turn the ball over. TWO DROPS IN THE ENDZONE?!?!?! WTFH?!?! Let’s not forget special teams, the whole team is stinking and Tuberville, support ya bud but, but, but, IT ALL BEGINS AND ENDS WITH YOU, BRUTHA!!!!

by EthansDaddy on Nov 1, 2010 6:45 AM CDT reply actions  

HUH

Mike Leach changed this offense into what it is today and Mike Leach changed the defense as well, from beyond the grave? Wow!

"A pretty girl will leave you. An ugly girl will leave you too but then again who really cares?"

by FriscoRaider on Nov 1, 2010 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

regarding Leach torpedo'ing Tuberville

It was noted on the radio in Austin yesterday that at the start of the season Mack Brown thought this was going to be HIS best team also. I don’t think one can say with any CERTAINTY that comments about the players were INTENDED to be dishonest when they were made.

by HeeroTX on Nov 1, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

That is countrier than a biscuit. - Garth Brooks

by Austin, Tx on Nov 1, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only sabotage around here

was perpetrated by the James family and Jim Bob Sowell.

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Correct

The idea the Leach is the source of Tubberville’s failures is stupid. (as was the complicity of Sowell in this fiasco)

by bilesteve on Nov 1, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worley went to Tech Law School
A former Texas high school football coach, Worley earned both his bachelor’s (1976) and master’s degrees (1977) from Austin College and went on to earn a JD degree from Texas Tech School of Law in 1983. At Austin College, he was awarded six varsity letters in football and baseball. A native of Leonard, Texas, he and his wife, Angie, have two children, Whitney and Tyler.

http://www.texassports.com/genrel/072808aad.html

NUTS - Never Underestimate TEAM Strength

by RndRckTTU on Nov 1, 2010 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

1. I want Sheffield. I don’t know how much better he really would be, but he’s a ton more exciting. If we are gonna suck, I’d rather suck being fun to watch.

2. I’m torn. You either have a scheme, or you don’t. If our scheme calls for single coverage, then so be it. But is it not adjustable?

3. First, I don’t think anyone gets fired this year. Second, if we fire Brown, I am with Seth…the odds of a spread OC being brought in go way down.

4. I have no opinion on if an AD candidate went to Tech. I don’t think it’s germane to the job unless there is some weirdness about the school like at ATM or a service academy. I want the best person, regardless of background or affiliation.

5. Man, the problems with this team go to the core. It’s everyone. At some point they will ALL start pointing fingers.

by Tech92 on Nov 1, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Five Answer

1. Who do you want to play at QB and why?

Sheffield, Sheffield, Sheffield. Because he gives us the best chance to win games. Having seen Potts for the past two seasons I am convinced that we will not beat either Missouri, OU or Houston if Potts continues to lead our offense in the remaining games.

2. . IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?

Our secondary situation remains weak. Missouri also depends on its running game as much as it does with its passing game. So, I like the strategy of shutting down their run and making them unidimensional first. But a zone coverage could work in this case better I guess.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

I would be really concerned if we fired Neal Brown because Neal Brown’s offense is not bad. It was Potts who made it look bad, just as he did with Leach’s offense in most games that he played in last year. Sheffield in that last quarter against A&M proved that Neal Brown’s version of the spread offense can also be devastating if executed correctly. I think NB’s biggest mistake was choosing the wrong QB for the job, the same mistake that Leach made initially last year.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?

No idea. He has a JD from Tech and I think he may be a friend of Kent Hance.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

I don’t think that offense is the problem. Neal Brown’s offense has looked good when it has been executed correctly. The QB was the biggest part of the problem. Willis seems inexperienced in his job as a DC, but I will give him a pass this year as well because he is making changes to the D.

by jef on Nov 1, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY? We will probably have more interceptions with Sheffield, but that is because he’s willing to take more chances and make more productive throws than the continual bubble screens all game.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS? There should have been an adjustment. Not sure why we’re determined to stop the run at all costs when our secondary has continually shown that they will let the other team have all the passes they want.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR? I’m willing to give it more time. I still think that there was something just a little bit off about this group of guys and that’s why there was trouble on the team last year. Not that is was all their fault, but it’s like the team is just ‘this much’ off synch with each other and it’s killing us.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY? No

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS? If you would have told me at the first of this season that our SEC defensive guys that we’ve been longing for for years would be worse than our ‘bend-don’t-break’ philisophy, I would have laughed in your face. Now, I cry myself to sleep at night. The loses along the dline as well as injuries have been brutal. I’m willing to give the d one more year due to this fact and this fact alone.

On a sadder note: Who would of thought that our one, big, quality win this year was going to be Baylor?

by theta12 on Nov 1, 2010 8:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Something I noticed looking at the Big 12 standings in the DMN this morning

For the first time that I can think of, Texas Tech has had more points scored against them than they have scored this year. Eight weeks into the season, including 2 non-conference games. That’s bad. At some point, somebody needs to put the heat on Kent Hance for cutting off our nose to spite our face. All it took was 8 games to drop Tech to last place in the Big 12 South with our two toughest conference games still to be played. I’m less mad at the new coaching crew who are only guilty of taking a job that was offered to them. They are what they are as far as coaching competence. The real blame for this 2010 debacle sits at the feet of Kent Hance. He has got to pay for this.

by mbrown603 on Nov 1, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cannot see the connect between a team's

one year performance under an new coaching staff and a Chancellor’s culpability in the current state.

Unless one is simply holding the chancellor accountable for the whole series of events.

This year’s season is horrible, no doubt, but the chancellor has nothing to do with what is happening on the football field or in the locker room…from what I am able to see.

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 1, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

In your quest to not be judgemental....

You have set a new bar….cheers

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

bars and cheers are good !!

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 2, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chimy's is apprently the new place

as my haunts of the Oyster bars are laughed at by RdrPwr and those his age….although Jazz is still serving up warm beers

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Na... I love Lonestar Oyster bar

Especially the 2.50 bloody mary bar on Sundays. Chimy’s is just…. Chimy’s. I’ve never been to another place quite like it.

by RdrPwr on Nov 2, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember

catching grief about it in the spring…I spent much time there. Will be checking out chimys during a visit for a hoops game….

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. – Sheffield should have started the season. Period. He probably would have been injured by now. But, I think this team would have been better off from a momentum standpoint because Sheffield would have created opportunities scrambling and helping the offense gain some confidence that I have really yet to see a complete game of. Pott’s is great when he has 5-10 seconds and when he can throw bullets 20+ yards down field but he’s terrible with short throws and placing the ball in stride of the receivers which is what our offense has fed off of for the past 10 years.

2. One on one for the rest of the season for game experience. As long as our offense continues to struggle with staying on the field our secondary will be terrible regardless of our defensive plan. I don’t care what kind of talent we have (i.e. look at Texas this year)….if our offense can’t sustain drives to gain momentum our defensive will miss assignments, tackles, get beat on the long ball, etc.

3. Keep for at least 3 years – hoping to find a Holgerson type or even the kid that went to ECU with Ruff is a crap shoot at this point. Plus, I’m not sold with Brown being the problem on play calling. I think it’s at the QB position and the ball placement/touch passes that get this offense going.

4. no idea

5. Offense is the problem. Defense would be night and day if they could rest for more than a few minutes a serious. Plus, the injury issue only compounds the problem.

by ashton99 on Nov 1, 2010 8:03 AM CDT reply actions  

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?

I want the guy to play qb that can qb this team. In the discussions about his subject keep this quote in mind, it is from the same AJ article that Seth sourced above:

In early October, Tech coach Tommy Tuberville mentioned Sheffield had a bruised shoulder that made him unplayable for a time at quarterback. Brown said that had remained the case until just days ago.
"His arm got healthy, and he practiced well for the first time last week," Brown said. "He really hadn’t practiced well. But he threw the ball, had some zip on it and looked a lot better last week. This is really the first week I thought it was a possibility that he could play in a while — probably since going into the Iowa State game (on Oct. 2)."

I will continue to accept that who ever plays is the guy who plays, I don’t see enough to know who is ready. We need a qb who can qb this team.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?

It looks as if we have an attacking defense. We have blitzes. We have people moving around…at the end of the day it remains a game of numbers. 11 on 11, if we are going to blitz, we have to be prepared to get burned, if we don’t want to get burned that way, we could go back to the thinking of Coach McNeill and get burned the way he got burned, running game. Make a plan and work it, it is going to be good some of the time and it is going to fail some of the time. A big part of the defenses current problem is 3 and out’s by the offense.

We are pretty much caught between a rock and a hard spot. The defense is terrible, terrible. (apparently the DC is great though !!) We are so beat up on defense that we played Neboh (Jeff Fuller loves playing against Neboh or our other last straw cb) I have nothing negative to say about Neboh, his is a good story, he is simply not ready for what he has been asked to do, and it is not of his doing. The significance of this is that we are out of people to play defense…depth.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

I don’t want to speculate on a fear coming out of a speculation….

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?

This is interesting, there will be a number of guys considered, surely. I would like to see what the deciding factors will be.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

Tuberville has a point, I think he is talking to his experience, and his entire offensive staff, saying you are not doing what you are capable of doing, momentum killing fumbles, inconsistent play, weak execution, we need more from you. At the same time, there is recognition that the defense is horrid. Part of that is guys who have been lost to whatever reason. We are weak on that side of the ball and need help.

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 1, 2010 8:12 AM CDT reply actions  

For what it's worth

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?
Sheffield. Period. He’s a better leader, more mobile and makes decisions faster. Potts has bettter mechanics, and a better arm, but he’s slow of foot, slow to make decisions, is not a leader.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?
Yes. They will need to “grow-up” on the field. Their job is to match up.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?
Of course. Tubby will hire another guy from an Alabama school, or maybe a Mississippi school that features a “balanced” attack. After all, it’s his team, right? The fans be damned.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?
Nothing. But does it really matter?

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

I have yet to hear Tubby say “It’s my fault”. Until that happens, he does not have my respect, or my support. It’s like Obama blaming everyone else. Leaders step up and accept the responsibility. Non-leaders play the blame game. Which one are we seeing?

by candyroll on Nov 1, 2010 8:12 AM CDT reply actions  

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?

Potts to start.

If Potts’ slow starts hurt us again, put Sheffield in the early first or second quarter to pick up the pace. If Sheffield plays well, ride that horse until it doesn’t run anymore.

If Sheffield stinks up the joint, put Potts in after a couple of series.

This is supposed to be hard?

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?

No you do not match them up one-on-one. What is the point – to give the secondary more experience for 2012?

If something’s not working, adjust. adjust. adust.

Other than rotating bodies to get 11 players on the field, Willis’ lack of flexibility is disappointing.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

I don’t see the value of pretending to utilize a spread offense any longer than we have to.

Brown said it himself. Sheffield did not make Nascar look better. Sheffield made Sheffield look better.

The NASCAR itself features short passing plays and very little passing upfield. This approach might fly in the Sun Belt where the defenses are less sophisticated and talented. It does not work as effectively in the Big 12.

Now would be the best time to put the spread to bed. The OL is maturing and the key starters in the skill positions are graduating.

Will there be a better time to get a more traditional OC? Next year, we’re pretty much starting over any way, so why not replace the OC now?

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?

No. Worley seems unlikely to come to Texas Tech after 24 years in Austin and just 2-3 years removed from assuming the top post there. If he was going to leave, he would have done so a long time ago.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

Uh, no. That’s pretty lame. The defense has been terrible from day one.

"This time it's different."

by LondonRaider on Nov 1, 2010 8:29 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't follow so well your comments about Brown

He came in talking about wanting to play vertical, get the ball down field, more vertical than we currently are…at least that is my impression of what he was advocating earlier in his tenure.

We have not seen that to the degree that makes sense. So it is automatically his leadership when he may be using what his qb is able to give in a game situation. Is Potts checking to the wide plays ? I don’t know.

HC has said that we are playing too much to the horizontal and not enough to the vertical…so there seems to be a disconnect there also.
Brown is a spread protgee, that is his game, that was his game at Troy…he is going to try to do it…but something is not in sync…it is not working. Many want to blame the qb…I think we have sucky recievers as well as a qb who is not as accurate as we are accostomed to seeing…that is an ugly mix.

For some reason, one which I cannot finger like I would prefer, I believe that given the opportunity, we would be playing a lot more vertical, a lot more spread, than we currently are because that is what the OC wants to do.

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 1, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?

Sheffield deserves a shot at a whole game. It’s an injustice not to try to this guy at this point. He absolutely gives Tech opportunities that Potts can’t. Forget about burning Scotty Young’s redshirt as that would be really stupid. We have 3 capable QB’s behind Potts that deserve looks at this point. Sheffield not starting against Mizzu makes no sense.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?

Defense needs to adjust per the game and we don’t seem to be doing that. Fuller was killing these guys. I think we have little to pick from and Willis is desperate at this point.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

No. Even if Tuberville went with a more conservative OC we stand a better chance if that OC comes in with experience and proper credentials to coach at this level. We are dead in the water today and it’s apparent that Mike Leach’s offense can’t be replicated by this staff. It’s time to move on and find a savvy OC that has his own brand and I could care less what it is as long as we score points.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?

No to knowing anything about him. I like the idea of alligning ourselves with father horn. We could easily fall out of sight especially now and we need some power players behind us. I would prefer a PAC12 or SEC connection but I think staying well connected with UT has it’s benefits despite them controlling everything. Better to be a little brother to them versus an orphan.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

They are both horrid at this point. The only thing I can say about the defense is that it’s been neglected for a long time and always been spotty. We have some decent athletes that can fill in the voids occassionally but it’s not enough to build on. We need better athletes pure and simple on that side of the ball. We need tall and faster DB’s badly. The new scheme is also requiring these guys to think more and that’s a whole lot harder to do with guys that didn’t have to do too much of that in the past. Ruffin had a much simpler defensive package that worked for what he intended. Willis wants a more versatile 3-4 defense that he was used to seeing at Alabama. Problem is Kirby Smart was the brain child of that scheme and not Willis. Willis is going through a learning curve and has no DC experience and we are reaping the benefits of that. I still think with better athletes we can get there with Willis. I may be wrong but I speculate.

Offense I don’t feel the same way regarding Brown. He’s very predictable and this offense is lost. My earlier rants about Brown still have me thinking the same way today.

"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
"We started too late" - Neal Brown

by Raider1992 on Nov 1, 2010 8:29 AM CDT reply actions  

5. horrid...great choice of words....

This is not at you in particular, but the following is a thought that I cannot get out of my mind….

When TAMU started their change the coach of the week campaign with Frannochi, they went to a 3-4 we are gonna blitz the qb strategy and we ate their lunch…somehow I am seeing those tables turned…it is not comfortable at this point.

I think too many people are riding the heck out of Brown and giving Willis a bye when neither side of the ball is performing well…and I cannot see a rational that jusifies that thought.

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 1, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Based on my opinion

I have been hard on Brown and I think it’s only because he had weapons to utilize. I don’t know the interworkings of what Brown does to game plan or if he even has the lattitude to make his own calls. I speculate Tuberville gives these guys full control and that is why I have issues with Brown. Player technique is a huge problem on the offense and I also see poor clock management. Too many 3 and outs and in the end somebody has to be held accountable. Unfortunately Brown manages that department and it was producing very well in the last 2 years.

Defense is a whole different story. We lack athletes in general. I can see Willis trying to make adjustments with what he has. I doubt Saban would have kept him around very long if he didn’t know what he was doing. I believe Willis will look a whole lot better once we get some talent to that side of the ball. Presently we are undersized and slow in the secondary and that is killing us. Technique is bad with pass coverage and man tackling. These problems are nothing new to Tech’s defense but further exposed by the new scheme. I say keep the 3-4 and build that side of the football with the talent we need.

"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
"We started too late" - Neal Brown

by Raider1992 on Nov 2, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

The fall off on both sides of the ball are similar...

Both sides had returning players, TTU’s defense last season was heads and shoulders above this one.

We do have a difference of opinion on the offense because I do not believe that we have the athletes, the O-line went through a rebuild that was very similar to last season, our wr’s do not get open and when they do they are not reliable with their hands, and the qb is not what we are accostomed to seeing, but he did better over all last season with the wr’s.

At the end of the day regarding the coaching staff, I have expected all along that there would be a transition, that happens more often than not…examples to the contrary not withstanding.

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 3, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

QB?

And all other positions for that matter. Play kids. If T’ville’s mantra is “Playing for championships” play for next year or the year after that’s championship. We can’t win anything this year. Move on. I guess technically one could say we could ge a bowl and thus more practice time for the youngsters through that, so I can see fighting for a bowl, but getting an underclassman QB 4 games seems the right move to me.

Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!

by Plano Jeff on Nov 1, 2010 8:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Great Idea !!

/s/

Current not ready to play QB at Ut…..

I jest !

I am going to disagree with the crux of the idea of throwing the seniors away so that we can be better next season. I have a sense that the hs coaches in would revolt to that happening…somewhere in college football there lies some level of respect for seniors, for what they have done to get the program to whatever current state, for the work that they have done, and the expectations that they somehow rate from their pespective because of their prior work and achievements…that seems to be something that is going to be respected…at whatever cost.

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 1, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?
Sheffield. Potts is a known entity and he’s not leading the team effectively. Sheffield provides a “spark” to the team and mobility that Potts doesn’t have. If Sheffield falters I’d like to see him backed up by Karam or Doege.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?
No.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?
Honestly, I hadn’t thought about this until you brought it up yesterday but I think you’re right and it scares me. But Tubs view for offense may be a reality that we don’t have any choice but to accept at some point.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?
Other than his bio, no.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?
The problem is on all three sides of the ball. Guess I’ve been more willing to give the defense a pass this year because it’s always been the red-headed stepchild of Tech football, and due to all of the injuries and young, inexperienced players. But they are killing us.

 

That is countrier than a biscuit. - Garth Brooks

by Austin, Tx on Nov 1, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

While Texas Tech has one of the wortst defenses in the country…
http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category10/sort01.html
…look a Texas with the fifth best. Okie lite is 86th and Okie regular is 69th.
I believe this demostrates the fact that a high scoring offense can still compete and Tuberville is acknowledging the fact that we just don’t score enough. Maybe he is just desperate enough to start Sheffield.

by Llanonite on Nov 1, 2010 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Is the HC being stubborn about putting Sheffield in

or has he be too sore with a bad should to play ?

I think the difference in perspective is significant opposite this comment: “Maybe he is just desperate enough to start Sheffield.”

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 1, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?

At this point, I don’t know who gives us a better chance of winning because I think the issues are deeper than just QB play. If I was making the call, I would probably start Potts and bring Sheffield in like they did at the Alamo Bowl.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?

No. You cover-up, strengthen, or support your weakness, you don’t expose it.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

No … and others should go as well. Robinson, our DB coach, is probably as stand up guy (seems like Tubs has a pretty good handle on character) and is a good recruiter, but these DB’s need a proven veteran to lead them. Robinson has coached two years (one at Western Kentucky and one at Southern Miss) prior to coming to Tech.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?

No. Maybe a strategic short-term hire with the instability of the FBS.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

They are both bad. The coaches better learn how to make better decisions and put the players they have in the best positions to succeed.

by Arizona Raider on Nov 1, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm worn out.

I am drained after the aggie game. And I vowed that I would not invest as much mental energy nor post or spend much time on DTN for the remainder of the season.

But…if I may paraphrase Tommy Lewis, the Alabama player who came off the bench to tackle Rice’s Dicky Moegle in the ‘54 Cotton Bowl, I guess I’m just too full of Texas Tech. So…

1. Sheffield, without doubt. Potts is a great kid, and I wish him much success in the future. But, for several reasons, he doesn’t have the “it” and Sheffield does. It’s Coach Leach’s ego (I think he wanted an NFL quarterback, and Potts had— maybe still has— a chance to make it) and Coach Tuberville’s, um, lack of perspective, that made Potts our starting quarterback for the last two years. If Sticks struggles or can’t get it done, bring in one of the other guys. (I’d like to see what Karam can do in an extended opportunity.)

2. I realize this is a little bit contradictory to my answer to 1, but I think the “now” vs. “future” question is necessarily different for offense and defense. Coach Willis needs to keep on doing what he’s doing, because for the defense now, it’s all about the next couple of years. They’re going to continue to struggle this year, but it all amounts to a “trial by fire” for the future. The situation reminds me a bit of Gerald Myers’ “eight is enough” basketball team in ‘83. That young team, decimated by injury and suspensions, played poorly that year— but won the conference championship two years later. I think there’s a parallel here. (Ok, I know it was a LONG time ago and the analogy is a bit of a stretch, but cut an old alum some slack.)

3. This is a moot question. Coach Brown won’t be fired after one year, unless Coach Tuberville is as big a chicken s**t as many of you think. And you’re right, Seth, any new coordinator is likely going to be more “conservative.”

4. According to an article about Mr. Worley on the official UT athletic site,he has a B.A. (‘76) and an M.A. (’77) from Austin College and has a ‘83 J.D. (!) from Tech. Nice academic credentials and a TTU connection; however, I know this isn’t very rational, but I don’t want a 57 year old who’s spent 24 years in the UT organization for our athletic director.

5.The defense is a problem, certainly. Personnel losses and the introduction of the “really new” system are primary issues. But the offense shouldn’t be as mediocre as it has been. Most of our losses were winable games with better perfomances by the offense— not to mention several fewer three-and-outs would have helped the defensive cause.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

This is all I have to say

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?

Start Sticks and then bring in either Karam or Deoge. Let NB start the preperation for next year. It really won’t matter because Tubberville is not going to let go of the offense. Since when does Tech recruit punters. At turn over is a punt in our offense.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?

Hell No and Hello No. Bend and don’t break. Keep the assignments simple and just keep you man in front of you. Its just football. Way too much for these kids to handle. What the heck was Willis thinking. Rush four and stay in your gaps. Worked well in the pasat.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?

Go back to number one. I don’t think it matters who the OC is. Tubby is not going to let OC go. We are going to run the draw on second down. Period, and we are going to throw the ball side to side.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?

Nothing, but his only tells me how much Hance and the Board must be jealous of Texas. If they want to be Texas so bad, why the hell don’t they just transfer. Oh, that right, you can’t get in. Sorry bunch of terds. We are Texas Tech.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?

Point fingers, turn it towards yourself. You are the problem. You have no enthusiasm, you coach like its 1920, and why don’t you just leave and get the hell out of the way. He is right, it is all three phases of the game. We have a QB who is slow and can’t read his progressions, we have a defense that is so confused they don’t even know what day it is, and we have a special teams coach who thinks we are playing backyard football. Fire the CEO so we can start rebuilding.

"I spent 18 months, off and on, with the script writer. I might as well have not spent one second with him." Don Haskins.

by Btech on Nov 1, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

"Since when does Tech recruit punters"

Since Mike Leach started giving shollies for guys will legs…..

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 1, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my point

Purbred punters with legs

"I spent 18 months, off and on, with the script writer. I might as well have not spent one second with him." Don Haskins.

by Btech on Nov 2, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

ADD Monday

 1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?
My brain says Doege or Karam, my gut says SS. My gut likes beer and tex mex, so I’m going with it.
2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?
I just wish they would turn around and find the damn ball
3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?
Yes, I think this is a good point. I think Brown should do things over the off season to increase his manly level….go to bullfights, MMA matches,Buffalo Wild Wings in Midland and WurstFests.
4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?
Is he named Gerald Myers? No? OK, I’m good.
5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?
You can skin a cat by being an exciting offense first team or a boring defensive minded SEC team…what you can’t do is suck at both of them and be a YouTube sensation because of your boneheaded special teams play.

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Re: #3

Maybe spending time with Mike Gundy would help. He’s a man.

That is countrier than a biscuit. - Garth Brooks

by Austin, Tx on Nov 1, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just wish they would turn around and find the damn ball

Kind of remind you of ML’s first DC ???

I am with you on this thought…LOL !!

as for me and my house, we chose the Lord.

by TallMike on Nov 1, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope

they don’t hire a Longhorn to be our AD. What are they thinking?

Some people think football is a matter of life or death, but it's far more important than that.

by DoubleT on Nov 1, 2010 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I think it's a strategic hire to get included with UT when realignment happens again

I would prefer a hire from the Pac 12 office so we can secure our invitation independant of the University of Texas. But Hance is comfy riding in Deloss Dodds’ pocket, so there we are.

by mbrown603 on Nov 1, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Nov 2, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why is Tubbs

blaming the players? Leach never did that – except when he blamed the players for listening to their fat girlfriends. These are the same guys who went to a bowl game every year. These are the same guys who have won 8 or 9 or ten games a year. This is the same team that has rebounded every year even after the loss of key players like Harrell, Crabtree, McBath to name a few. Does Tubbs think we are all that stupid?

Some people think football is a matter of life or death, but it's far more important than that.

by DoubleT on Nov 1, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I've noticed stupid people typically assume everybody else is as dumb as they are

And they always seem shocked when they are called out on their lies. They would have fallen for it. Why wouldn’t you?

by mbrown603 on Nov 1, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gameplans

We dont stink to the core, were not the worst team in all of football. Our main problem is that the Tubs gameplan isnt suited to the players style of play. Their is no flow to the offense, be that playcalling or the QBs placement of the ball most plays just dont get exectued on the field. I thought Atm did a good job because they knew that Potts/Brown wouldnt stretch the field. It was easy for their atheletes to defend the screens and runs up the middle.

The gameplan is horrible when you cant kill two minutes before the half. What they are trying doest work, be it too conservative or too running oriented whatever it doesnt work. Its a game thats played ten yards at a time and it seems that our new style of football is to use all three of those downs to try and get that ten yards. Seems rather risky than say gettting eight or twelve every down.

Dont buy the Espn/Disney/ABC hype ! Playoffs are just spin to hide their agenda of owning our favorite sport.

by Gus Mitchem on Nov 1, 2010 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Bull Drurham

“You throw the ball, you catch the ball and you hit the ball” seems kind of easy like for football

“You line up and you go to where they aint” then you go upfield as fast as you can and maybe you get then yards and get to do it again

Dont buy the Espn/Disney/ABC hype ! Playoffs are just spin to hide their agenda of owning our favorite sport.

by Gus Mitchem on Nov 1, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

I think that Tubbs should make the decision on who should QB, not the fans. You want to make that decision, get a job making a cool million smackers a year coaching a team and then you get too.

He watches them practice, he has watched many QBs practice and play in games, he gets to make the choice. He lives with the choice.

Whats up with the defense? We were steadily moving up in the Defensive rankings til this year.

I can’t believe you want to get rid of the OC. As he develops his talent, this team could be crazy good. He did amazing things last year at Troy. He likes the Pistol and wants a running passing QB. Thats what teams like Oregon, OKie State and Baylor are all running and all ranked.

Already commented on 4 and 5 in above posts…

Some people think football is a matter of life or death, but it's far more important than that.

by DoubleT on Nov 1, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

So only those who are at every practice can have an opinion?

Lets just make shallow observations like whats up with the defense?

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?
Sheffield w/ Doege at back-up

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS? Nope. Very little pass rush this year. Can’t expect any corner to cover the WRs for too long.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?
Not real worried. I would like to see a more proven commodity at OC if the season progresses along the same path. I think Brown’s observations are a little late. “Potts early in the game missed some throws,” Brown said. "He was off. I don’t know if he got too excited. I don’t know the reasons why, but he was off. Our receivers actually made some really hard catches on some balls that he threw, and he missed some other throws.
“And then in the second half, he held the ball a little too long and took some hits. I thought we’d go in a different direction there, because he was taking some hits and wasn’t real sharp.” Are you kidding? With the exception of the Oklahoma game in ’09, this is Potts method of operation.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?
Don’t know.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?
Bad offense = worn out defense. Couple the three and outs with our lack of depth…..look out.

by Tn Raider on Nov 1, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Just two points...

4. As long as the AD isn’t Myers, I’m OK with it. Remember, T. Jones was a really good AD for Tech back in the 80’s and 90’s—and he was the guy who finally fired Myers as the BB coach. He also wasn’t afraid to stand up to the school president when he thought he needed to.

5. Tubbs pointing fingers shows no class. Bear Bryant would always take the blame after a loss and say he’d “done a poor job of coaching his team.” GQ Tommy could learn something from this—but, NO! The one guy who deserves to have a finger pointed at him (for wrecking our football team) is the guy doing the pointing. Tubbs—shut up and go back to the house to count your millions and eat your sacred catfish so we can get us a REAL coach again!

by djn on Nov 1, 2010 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Start looking at next year for experience

. WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AT QUARTERBACK AND WHY?
Steven Sheffield as QB. Potts is just not responding quickly enough and the team does not appear to be responding to him as the team leader. If we lose against Mizzou, then I say we start looking at next season and use Seth Doege or Jacob Karam. Let them get some real game experience this year.

2. IF YOU KNOW THAT THE CORNERBACKS ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, DO YOU STILL MATCH THEM UP ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE OPPONENT’S BEST RECEIVERS?
The Defense is banged up and has no depth. The one-on-one is at least providing a learning experience that hopefully will assist the team next season. I think they just need to do the best they can this year and that is all we can ask of them at this point.

3. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ON DTN GET THEIR WISH AND OC NEAL BROWN IS FIRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR, DON’T YOU THINK THAT TUBERVILLE WILL HIRE AN EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR?
I would like to see what OC Neal Brown can do in a second season. I am slightly concerned that Tuberville will repeat history and try to throw out the Air Raid Offense like he did at Auburn. I think CTT will retain both Brown and DC James Willis and the rest of the staff since this is the first season.

4. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL AD CANDIDATE BUTCH WORLEY?
Worley went to Tech Law School.

A former Texas high school football coach, Worley earned both his bachelor’s (1976) and master’s degrees (1977) from Austin College and went on to earn a JD degree from Texas Tech School of Law in 1983. At Austin College, he was awarded six varsity letters in football and baseball. A native of Leonard, Texas, he and his wife, Angie, have two children, Whitney and Tyler.

http://www.texassports.com/genrel/072808aad.html

Worley could have inside track on realignment if and when it comes. Since he is the Assistant AD at ut, Worley could have insider information that would help Tech if and/or when realignment comes.
I too worry about a David McWilliams scenario.
I do not like or want ut personnel using Tech as a training center.

5. WITH TUBERVILLE STARTING TO POINT FINGERS, DO PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE OFFENSE RATHER THAN ONE OF THE WORST DEFENSES OF ALL FBS TEAMS?
Tuberville needs to start taking responsibility for the decisions. He is a CEO type coach and ultimately the buck stops and starts with him. There are issues on both sides of the ball. The only consistent play maker we have is Matt Williams. The Defense is the worst, but part of that is no depth and the injuries.

NUTS - Never Underestimate TEAM Strength

by RndRckTTU on Nov 1, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

1. I would like to see Sheffield get the nod, as I feel he should have from the get go. But at this point I just want to see anyone other than Potts. Taylor just doesn’t have what it takes.

3. After seeing Sheffield get 129 yards passing, and the RB’s get a bunch of yards in the 4th quarter, I really don’t think the offensive struggles are due to Brown’s scheme anymore. I lay the blame for that at the feet of Taylor Potts. But then again, I lay the blame for Taylor starting on Brown and Tubs because he has no business being out there.

by RdrPwr on Nov 1, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

The good ol' days

Some of you guys are driving me crazy with your short memories and/or your revisionist history.

I am a Mike Leach fan, I think Steven Sheffield should have been the starting quarterback, and I agree that the current coaching staff has done an inadequate job of running the offense. That should establish my cred for the following comments.

First, Coach Leach also picked Taylor Potts as his starting quarterback. It was the injury to Potts in the New Mexico game last year that gave us all the opportunity to see Sheffield’s ability as a gamer. My psychic powers are not good enough for me to state authoritatively what Coach Leach would’ve done had Sticks remained healthy for the entire season. All I know is that Coach Leach expressed regret for those rare times when he switched quarterbacks for no reason other than the fact that his starter was struggling.

Second, there were several occasions over the years when Coach Leach called out his players in public. Most of those were a variation of the memorable “fat little girlfriends” comments and usually came after a bad loss like last year’s A&M game. Coach was fond of the “inflated egos” approach and was inclined to talk publicly about how the players spent too much time reading their own press clippings. A related mechanism he used was limiting media access to his top players, ostensibly to keep them from being distracted by the attention, but also as a thinly veiled form of punishment.

Coach Tuberville should be held accountable for the success or failure of the football program, this season included. But when we criticize him in comparison to Coach Leach and forget that Coach Leach did some of the same questionable things, we are being unfair.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's the thing though.

After Sheffield got a chance to show what he could do in game situations, Leach started putting him in even when he was injured. This tells me he knew Sheffield gave the team a spark. Seems to me that new coaches should look at film from the previous season and see that Sheffield is a gamer, and not wait until after 8 games of stagnant offense to put him in.

by RdrPwr on Nov 1, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are absolutely correct on your second point.

That’s why I think Sticks should have been the starter. It was obvious to me when he came on in the New Mexico game that he had “something” that Potts unfortunately doesn’t. Some call it spark; I call it exceptional recognition. In any case, shouldn’t actual game performance trump practice? I’m not the coach, but you’re right— should it have taken 8 games to reach the conclusion? (Of course, we’re hearing now that Sticks may not have been healthy for some time.)

On your first point, if you’re referring to the ill-fated substitution in last year’s Okie St. game, this is specifically what I was referring to when I said that Coach Leach had expressed regret for switching quarterbacks. (I don’t recall another example of substituting in Sticks when he was injured.) After expressing the thought in a post-game interview, Coach was asked if his regret was because Sticks was obviously not 100%. He said that no, it was about the “disruption” that was caused to the offense and that he had similar regrets about the Harrell-Todd thing a few years earlier.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagreed with Leach on that point back then

I just don’t see what changing QB’s does to hurt an already stagnant offense.

by RdrPwr on Nov 1, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

I understand what you’re saying. You disagreed with Coach Leach sometimes; I disagreed with him, too; so did a lot of us.

That’s my point. I think many of us are forgetting that we, as fans, didn’t always see eye-to-eye with Coach Leach. We’re criticizing the current coaching staff for some of the same things we criticized the former staff, but often with remarkable vitriol. Coach Leach earned the benefit of the doubt, ultimately, for his accomplishments at Texas Tech. Shouldn’t an established coach like Tuberville be afforded some latitude?

I loved Coach Leach, too, but our tendency towards his “beatification” is a bit much.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Established coach"?

Would you mind giving some clarification to that? Other than that one miraculous season at Auburn when the SEC was absolutely terrible he’s done nothing. Look to my fanpost from a couple of weeks ago to see overall records and such. We’ve had the wool pulled over our eyes and told that we have a great coach coming in. We have a coach that imo is the definition of mediocre. Accomplished about the same record as Leach (actually not quite as good) with top ranked recruits. I don’t see this turning around anytime soon.

by RdrPwr on Nov 1, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew...

… the word “established” would generate another debate as soon as I wrote it. But I couldn’t think of a better one. I’ll try to clarify.

Don’t read more into it than need be. I didn’t say that Tuberville is an elite or even “top 20” coach; I didn’t say that Tuberville was or would be better than Coach Leach. But he did have a reasonably credible body of work behind him when he was hired.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

And fired....

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some coaches are fired...

… unjustly or prematurely.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

His body of work

includes telling ole miss he was staying there one day and leaving the next and then running his course at auburn. He also has canned oc’s in short order.

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Auburn obviously made the right decision.

Our guys… not so much

"grinnin with big ears, this could be my last year, someones future is starting to spoil" - The Lexington Brothers..

by raider realist on Nov 1, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Geez, you guys...

… I get that you’re not willing to give the man a much of a chance.

But your certainty in the ultimate outcome is puzzling to me. I’m not that good at predicting the future from a limited data set.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't just wave pom pons..

I’m counting on him doing this but look for him to be more forthright first. That’s pretty tough I know

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, “established” seems like a good adjective. vin61 didn’t say great or totally awesome, but rather established, which seems appropriate.

Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Nov 2, 2010 5:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have to have money in the bank before you start making withdrawls.

Leach had lots of money in the bank so even when he made withdrawals there was still a good balance.

Tommy hasn’t made any deposits yet. He can’t make withrawals without going into debt.

That is countrier than a biscuit. - Garth Brooks

by Austin, Tx on Nov 1, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great metaphor...

feels right to me

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

It took Coach Leach some time...

… to build up his bank balance. He didn’t walk into Lubbock with a much of a “stake.”

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he didnt withdraw too much

until he had equity

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

But leach was able to follow spike

when the program and expectations were not high…..tubs has to follow leach and didn’t downplay expectations. I hate following recruiting, I hope it makes a big difference next year

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 1, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe you remember...

…, oldschool, how it was back then.

We’d had some winning seasons under Coach Dykes. We’d been to a few bowl games and won a couple of them. After the Rex Dockery (RIP) and Jerry Moore years (and I won’t mention the Mc-something-or-other guy) this was serious improvement. Then Spike retires and the dumb Tech administration hires this quirky, unproven coach who’s going to install a gimmicky-looking passing offense.

The rest, as they say, is history. But it is worth remembering that we were not instantly enamored with Coach Leach. (Unconventional thinkers— dare I say geniuses even— are often misunderstood, as Coach Leach still is.) I watched the GalleryFurniture.com Bowl loss to East Carolina. I thought, this’ll never work. We can’t win consistently with this offense. Much happened in the years after and he won us over, but what is obvious now was not so obvious then. I think we’ve lost sight of that in our angst over the whole coaching change situation. And as you correctly point out, expectations are now much different.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 1, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I remember when Leach first came on board…I don’t think I knew a single alum who liked watching this team the first two seasons. Three yard passes? Dink and dunk between the 20s then stall. That’s what I remember most…and the beat down a semi-coherent defense could lay on us. But over time, it obviously worked out.

Do I think the same thing will happen now? It’s tough to say because the circumstances are so radically different on the hires. But I don’t buy the idea that we’ll never, ever, ever, EVER be good again. I just don’t. I have it on semi-solid background that Tuberville has almost no input into the offense during the week and only makes strategic decisions in-game. He is a true CEO coach, and I have no problem with that. I do think Brown should be given one more year to get this going, same for Willis. I may regret that, but that’s where I am with this.

by Tech92 on Nov 1, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't argue the depiction of Leach's first few years....maily because I was busy with very yound kids

In today’s environment we get way more content then we did then….who knows it could just be that that seems different. I want to have hope, but I do need some signs of life. The Potts thing just beats me down, and makes me discouraged at what might be ahead. I’m a Red Raider, I’m not going anywhere….but I like the fact that our bar has been raised (whether some are semi-delusional or not it beats apathy).
Bottom line is that I am really most shocked by the defense, that is scary. I would almost prefer to hear Tubs say that he hired a ST coach and he is going to help focus on that side of the ball (two birds, one stone).

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you've got something there.

Your suggestion on the coaching staff change makes a lot of sense. And Coach Tuberville, the politician that he seems to be, should immediately be able to see the value and pull it off with aplomb. It’s appears to be a positive change, but allows coach to save face by saying that he’s doing it because the defense needs the extra attention. He says, “Coach Willis is still the DC and he has my full support and now also my full attention and assistance… blah, blah, blah.” The fans— at least those of us who are not yet totally mired in cynicism— should view the move favorably. As you said, two birds, one stone… and a smart change of course, all egos remaining intact. I like it.

By the way, oldschool, it has been a pleasure sparring with you.

Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney

by vin61 on Nov 2, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you think what we've done is sparring.....

meet ttumar :) If tubs is astute as I’m told, he does this…he can coach d so it makes sense. He is going to need a badass defense if our o stays this far from our past production.

"It's fun to do bad things"- Latarian

by oldschoolraider on Nov 3, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

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