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Texas Tech Depth Chartin' :: The Quarterbacks

Overall: I don't know if it's the time and place to discuss if it's going to be Sheffield or Potts, I think all of this plays out over the course of the spring and even into the fall.  There's absolutely nothing to base our decision on what type of quarterback OC Brown will want to start. Despite who starts, I think it's a saving grace for Tuberville that he has two veteran options at the quarterback position. And I'd also like to add that I'm starting to get the feeling that the decision at quarterback and the entire offense is going to be left to Brown. Tuberville is obviously going to have his say on the defense and special teams, but I think that the offense is going to be left to Brown to manage.

At this point, what I'm hoping for during the spring, and this goes without writing, but I'll write it anyway, is that each and every position is pushed to their limits and the best player wins. Right now, I'm pretty comfortable stating that the starter role will probably lie with Sheffield or Potts, and I'm more than happy to see the backup role shake itself out. And the thought that Texas Tech needs a three or four year starter is a nice thought, but I'm always of the opinion, that a coach should play the best player, which takes into account physical ability, experience, etc. A coach has too much on the line, whether it's Tuberville or Leach, not to play who he thinks is the best player. Players get hurt and things change, so you always put your best foot forward and to give deference to the thought that it would be best to start a quarterback for three or four years sounds good in theory, but ultimately, the best decision is always to play the best player. I think there's a couple of reasons why Leach recruited a quarterback each and every recruiting class, mainly that I honestly believe that Leach always thought that repetition trumped talent most of the time and as a result, he always wanted a player that worked his way through his system and was ready and available to start. I have no doubt that Leach would have been content to start a senior for as long as he coached at Texas Tech.

Who Is Gone: No one. I guess you could consider Stefan Loucks, who transferred to North Alabama last year, to be one of the quarterbacks who left, but for now, this position is fairly intact.

Player Ht/Wt Year Probable Role
Steven Sheffield 6-4/190 SR Starter
Taylor Potts 6-5/218 SR First Backup
Seth Doege 6-2/205 SO Compete for Second Backup
Jacob Karam 6-1/205 RS FR Compete for Second Backup
Scotty Young 6-3/190 FR Redshirt

Who Is Still Around:  Steven Sheffield: I know, I said that this may not be a time for debate, but that's why you pay me the big bucks. To make tough decisions. With that being said, from last year alone, I think the job is Sheffield's to lose. Right now, Sheffield gives you the best of two world's, a quarterback with a good head on his shoulders, a mobile quarterback as the offensive line is replacing three starters again, and a quarterback that doesn't make as many mistakes as his competitor. This isn't to say that Sheffield doesn't have his faults. He does, but right now, I think he's the better option.

Taylor Potts: I'm actually pretty interested to see if Brown will be as intrigued with Potts as Leach was. I'm not sure what it was about Potts that Leach loved, but I do think that ultimately, Leach saw a tremendous amount of potential, and if he played up to that potential, he should be one of the best quarterbacks to roll through Lubbock. Despite those physical traits, it's the mental game is where Potts struggles the most, quickly reading defenses and making the right calls. Despite his limitations, I still think he's better than the other three options as far as readiness to play in game situations.

Seth Doege: I tend to be really conservative regarding backups. It was just last spring that Seth Doege was apparently pushing Sheffield for the backup role. Leach even thought so much of Doege that he inserted Doege into the starting role against Kansas, only to replace him at halftime with Potts. And now, it appears that Karam may be the quarterback that everyone thinks can take this team to the next step or should even garner consideration to start this year. I'm not going to be so quick to bypass Doege. Again, Leach has a stellar track record for identifying quarterback talent. There's a reason why Leach gave Doege a scholarship after being injured his entire senior year. I'd also tend to believe that time, repetition and experience play a huge role in how well a player will perform on the field. Right now, Doege has had more of all of those items than Karam and until we hear something definitively, that Karam has officially passed Doege, then I think Doege starts the spring as the second backup.

Jacob Karam: I absolutely love Karam, and I think he has a bright future as a quarterback for this team, but don't get your hopes up to see Karam take meaningful snaps in 2010. As mentioned above, Karam only has one year of collegiate training and I think high expectations are a good thing, but it's going to take time. As far as those that have this thought that Karam can step into the backup role this year, what do we know about Karam other than the traveled with the team and Leach loved his leadership ability? I'm hopeful that Karam can be that dual threat quarterback that can add a different dimension to this team, but I'm also of the opinion that Karam's window of opportunity really starts in 2011 when I think he'll have the opportunity to make his mark.

Scotty Young: I think that Young's commitment was a culmination of the time and effort it took to make the Texas Tech offense so prolific and the expansion of the spread game to the high school level. Despite playing in a spread offense in high school, Young was labeled as the best quarterback coming out of the state of Texas last year. And this isn't one of those situations where Young is going to be saddled with the thought that he's a weak-armed quarterback who can only succeed in the spread offense. Young is also one of the best high school pitchers in the state of Texas and has the opportunity of being drafted in April's MLB draft. Young is probably a better prospect at quarterback than Graham Harrell was and that's saying quite a bit.

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RE: Scotty Young…not to pick nits, but Young was not the top rated HS QB in Texas. He was behind Connor Wood (UT), James Frankilin (Missouri), and Zach Lee (LSU). But he WAS the fourth highest rated QB in high school, which is pretty much just as good.

by Tech92 on Feb 16, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions  

I think was referring to....

The opinion of many insiders in the state who disagreed with the national pundits, and ranked Young as our state’s best.

"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach

by TTUMAR on Feb 16, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, and I probably should have written

that Young was the best “passing” QB in the state, which he absolutely was. Hands down. Plus one of the reviews that I read also stated that they thought he was the best passing QB in the state.

Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Feb 17, 2010 4:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Bravely written Seth !

pretty much spot on.

I continue to find irony in the Pott’s / Sheffield debates. Potts was always starter between the two when it appeared he was physically able while Mike was coach and even when the very popular interim OC chose a starter for the bowl game. He was replaced by Sheffield when that OC determined that Potts was injured…at least as it was worded at the time.

Poor Brown is in in unenviable position (perhaps much to Mike’s relief) of having to pick a qb from two guys who are at the heart of the greatest qb controversy of Mike Leach’s tenure. He ain’t gonna come out on that one unless there are lots and lots of wins…regardless of qb play.

I honestly think we can win with either. Maybe Potts has more upside…he certainly had that as a hope from Mike who seemed to be for ever wondering why Potts could not transfer what he did in practice to game time. Twelve or 13 games is all they get to play who ever they are at the helm…geeesh, I hope it is not ‘they’ again. I also think winning will be more of a function of OL and receivers than the qb…but he will get the focus of attention anyway.

Doege, Karam, and Young are the next generation, neither of them see much if any playing time unless he has caught Brown’s eye (perhaps with Cumbie’s influence) and earns a spot ahead of a senior either as starter or 2nd…not likely. Of the three, I am willing to guess that Young has the strongest arm, he is the one who worthy of consideration as a major league pitcher candidate.

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Feb 16, 2010 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

I hope Coach Brown's eyes work as well as mine do

How anybody with a working pair of glasses can watch real time film of the games last year & not see that Taylor Potts has dozens of fatal flaws as a Div 1 QB is beyond me. At least this year the coaches have more than just practice performances to go on. I find it interesting that in the Red-Black game last year the starting defense shut down the starting offense for the 1st time in the Leach era. Nobody at the time mentioned that it could have happened because that is the 1st time Potts was directing the Air Raid against a full speed D. We all gave the credit to the defense at the time.

Please stop ending every controversial comment with 'Just saying'. Drives me batty. Thank you.

by mbrown603 on Feb 16, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn't you just love to get into Mike Leach's thinking

and see how he saw this qb thing?

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Feb 16, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

This is tough

QB’s are one of the strengths of the team. Getting the ball every snap is how they get rated. They are entrusted to enable the key spread component of distribution. The success of the offense has been built on the principle that if you don’t cover them they will catch it. If they catch and you don’t tackle in space then they will get the first down by the time the free safety runs them out of bounds.
I agree the starting QB job is Sheffield’s to lose. But the question becomes does he lose it to Potts, Karam or Doege?
IMO. What Leach saw in Potts was arm strength simply stretching the field out another 10 yards. All that reading and evaluating was happening for Taylor but for variety of reasons he was geting wacked around. The only decision Coach Brown has to make by spring is how to put a simple naming convention in place so the O line, backs and receivers are all on the same sheet of music and it doesn’t t sound exactly like what Leach called it.(sarcasm inserted) So IMO whoever gets it quickest gets to start. Yes over simplistic reasoning. What do I know they may keep the same plays just because it’s easier. The truth of the matter will boil down to how many Red Zone opportunities the offense can generate and convert. So no worries on the spread being executed in Lubbock. I will be very interested in the definition of success – will it be a balance achieved by distribution of the ball among positions or type of play calling ?
I think that is where you get to see the hybridization of what Coaches Cumbie, Brown, Mainord the younger and Moore field. It’s gonna be pretty exciting at any rate.

"do routine things routinely"

by centexraider on Feb 16, 2010 10:36 AM CST reply actions  

Featured players

I might add that what would seem to be the worst construct for this “new” spread offense is to have some sort of featured player set up. The fact that anybody could catch it and move it made all defenses equally vulnerable.

"do routine things routinely"

by centexraider on Feb 16, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I mostly agree with Seth

And I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night so there’s no need to question me.

by Boarder on Feb 16, 2010 11:06 AM CST reply actions  

I hate it when that happens

"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James

by TechFirst on Feb 16, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m going to take a screen shot of this when I get home.

Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Feb 16, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

QB

I agree that Sheffield probably gets the nod as the starter for Tech. Potts will makes for a good solid back up and will get play time. My concern with Sheffield is mainly his physical appearance. He needs body weight and a a good summer in the weight room. If he gets hit the way he’s built now we are in trouble. Surely these coaches will beef him up when evaluating him.

"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach

by Raider1992 on Feb 16, 2010 11:46 AM CST reply actions  

Taking a bit of an early lunch,

and I’d agree, that Sheffield’s biggest problem is his slight frame. The thing that concerns me is that it’s really hard to put on good weight during one offseason. It’s really hard to put on weight on your legs and torso. Not saying it’s impossible, but it’s just really tough thing to do. I’d also imagine that Sheffield probably has the metabolism of a rabbit, which makes putting on weight really tough.

Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Feb 16, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Seth, the part of your analysis that I took most exception with was...

listing Sheffield’s weight at 190.

If Sheffield’s 190 pounds then I am buying the next round, which of course, is what I’d do anyway. ..

"This time it's different."

by LondonRaider on Feb 16, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Finding a Team Leader

at QB makes Tech a challenger for the conference championship. Sheffield had an electrical jolt effect on the entire team. I hadn’t seen the same impact on a Texas Tech team since the days of Rodney Allison. Despite his build, Sheffield actually took less hits than Potts and probably stands a better chance of staying injury free. He’s mobile and makes quick decisions. Getting his foot stepped on at Nebraska was somewhat freakish. Broken ankles and feet are a drag.

Potts, on the other hand, held the ball too long and got clobbered on blindside hits quite often. Potts will always have my respect because he is physically and mentally tough. Despite the BS he has taken from the fans, Potts was able to stand in and lead Tech at QB quite capably.

Both guys appear able to lead Tech to many wins. I think the difference is that Sheffield could lead Tech to a championship. For the rest of the QBs, patience and practice reps are the key. The future looks bright at this position.

by EPRAIDER82 on Feb 16, 2010 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

Potts takes the job easily

I dont think there is any question that Potts gets the nod over Sheffield. Sheffield is like any good back up. He comes in and gives his team a spark that they need when the team is down. Potts on the other hand by the end of the season picked up the desire that he needed to lead the team. Was it just me or did anybody else see how upset he was when he got benched when his hand got hurt in the Alamo Bowl. This kid is a fighter and I would be really surprised if he lets Sheffield take his job from him. I expect Potts to have a great year and turn a lot of heads after the experience he gained this year. And lets not forget how great we thought he was after the Texas game staying in the pocket taking hit after hit and delievering the ball where it needed to be.

by zcole04 on Feb 16, 2010 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

It was the New Mexico game Part 2

Potts led a superior Texas Tech team to a haltime scoreboard deficit, was replaced and Sheffield brought the team back to a victory that should have been easy for a mildly competent starting QB. Injury or no, if Potts had finished the New Mexico and Alamo Bowl games, Tech likely loses both. He almost led Tech to a Baylor loss in Jerry World. That game was like watching grass grow. Game 12 of the season & the super sized TV screen showed terror in Potts’ eyes as he barked out the signals every play. Against Baylor!

Please stop ending every controversial comment with 'Just saying'. Drives me batty. Thank you.

by mbrown603 on Feb 16, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

NEW MEXICO

Lets not forget that Potts took a beating the two games before that. Our offensive line threw him to the wolves pretty much those two weeks. I want the guy to lead my team that can stand in and throw passes like he did after Kindle came in unblocked and rang his bell. If Sheffield would have taken that shot he would still be in the hospital.

by zcole04 on Feb 16, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Due to Sheffield's mobility and terrible statue impersonations

he doesn’t have to take a shot like that. Sticks, along with BJ Symons can get the hell outta the way and make a play happen. Potts stays in the pocket to long while it collapses and doesn’t look for his out route. Locking onto ONE receiver and waiting for him to get open will get you murdered.

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Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Feb 16, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Offensive Line

The pocket last season would close down instantly in most circumstances. A pocket passer is suppose to stay in the pocket and deliver the ball. Thats why they are called a POCKET PASSER.

by zcole04 on Feb 17, 2010 8:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I understand what a pocket passer is. That isn't what I'm discussing.....

If the o-line collapses, wouldn’t you rather have a guy that can get away and still make a play? Sheffield is an excellent passer in the pocket and outside the pocket.

One to many of those Kindle hits is going to cause problems.

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Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Feb 20, 2010 5:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Harrell

also almost lost to Baylor.

Also, the deficit against MSU was not too much to come back from and we never trailed at anytime against UNM (it was 7-7 when Potts went out).

I look for Potts to be MUCH improved over last year. Competition will do that to people.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Feb 16, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

With a hand shattered in 30 places wrapped in tape

That was a total team snooze after getting shellacked by UO the week before. It took the team a half to realize the season handn’t actually ended in Norman the previous Saturday. Then they were fine. Harrell is the last guy I would blame on the weak Baylor showing at the end of 2008. And Crabtree was hurt too.

Please stop ending every controversial comment with 'Just saying'. Drives me batty. Thank you.

by mbrown603 on Feb 16, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Granted

Harrell was injured but I still don’t see Potts being the sole reason the Baylor game last year was close either. Our D kept them from scoring but allowed their O to stay on the field for entirely too long at times and the secondary gave up some huge plays that hurt.

We had receivers dropping too many catchable balls and other struggles that happened all year long no matter which QB was in.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Feb 16, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

ZCOLE...

I think that Sticks is the better choice based on what I have seen thus far. That said the scenario you lay out is not far fetched, and if it happens, I will give you the props you deserve.

"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach

by TTUMAR on Feb 16, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Sticks

Dont get me wrong I like it when Sticks comes in and gives us that little spark but thats what you come to expect when you have a guy that has come all the way from a walk on to being on the field. Ever heard of the movie Rudy……..thats pretty much Sheffield. Potts is the guy.

by zcole04 on Feb 17, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

What's Einstein's definition of insanity?

Performing the same experiment over and over (Potts) and expecting different results

"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James

by TechFirst on Feb 17, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Your optimistic

I like that but I think Potts has had his best days. I just don’t see him adapting mentally to the game. Leadership has to be earned or demanded and these players won’t just decide that Potts has what it takes. SS came in and cleaned up for Potts on many occassions and he was instantly gaining players respect. That leadership quality will follow SS into next season but as for Potts…not so much.

"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach

by Raider1992 on Feb 16, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder

If Sticks could be like Major Applehite was for ut. Comes off the bench and lights the world on fire but, as a starter just above average.

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by cweber7377 on Feb 16, 2010 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

Wait...what?
Again, Leach has a stellar track record for identifying quarterback talent.

This is a somewhat questionable statement in my opinion. Leach has a really good system. I think in the 10 years Leach was at Tech he had one elite quarterback, Graham Harrell, and a couple of good ones and several very iffy guys (See Hodges, Cody and Cumbie, Sonny). I believe that Leach’s biggest problems at Tech was not having a really good quarterback for most of his tenure. Let’s not start saying that Leach was a great evaluator of talent when he’s only had a handful of players drafted and none of them were QB’s.

by Big50 on Feb 16, 2010 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

+1

TallMike, you are giving KWalsh a run for his money

"This time it's different."

by LondonRaider on Feb 16, 2010 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

LOL !

Is there a race ?

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Feb 16, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

You again....

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Feb 16, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

No kidding!?!?!

What did I miss? Ha!

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Feb 16, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

With Sticks we can win the Big 12 next year. With Potts we go 8-5.

by logan5555 on Feb 16, 2010 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

More of a chance than you might think.

I refuse to run around this website and defend Sheffield everytime that you want to shoot someone’s theory down. You are more than welcome to disagree, but I think it would be better if you could give other readers a few reasons as to why Sticks with the starting role wouldn’t work as opposed to why Potts is better than Sheffield.

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Feb 16, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok, I’ll back up my claim a bit. We would have lost NM without Sticks coming in. We were behind and looking horrible. K state we still would have won. NU, no way we win that with what Potts had been doing. The second half, D won it for us, but Sticks was better that Potts ever was. Kansas was won because of Batch, but Stick would have killed them. BU would have been a loss without Sticks. OU was great, but like the Holiday Bowl against Cal, a total anomaly for the season.

By my estimation, without Stick and with Potts all year, we lose another 2 or 3 games.

And I think that with Stick we can win next year. Thats my opinion.

by logan5555 on Feb 16, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

?????

I don’t know. That’s a bold statement to make. I think we will kick ass with either at the helm. However, I do think there is a mental lapse now with the team when Potts is on the field. It seems like the team plays harder when Sticks is on the field and if that is the case then Sticks should be the man. We should all want the team to give 110% every down of the game.

by TTU '04 on Feb 16, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry...

I’m done with that. No more of Captain Obvious…maybe.

by Damien Franco on Feb 16, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Name Calling????

I’ve been warned a thousand times for name calling…..does calling me captain obvious meet criteria? That’s hilarious!

by TTU '04 on Feb 16, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Being from the Abilene area

I know Potts’ history, and regardless of his lack of performance, the dude can play.

My take is that leadership is going to play a major role in Coach’s decision. It just seems like he wants a good leader who will take care of business. Now, I don’t know the work ethic of all these guys so I can’t make a prediction, but I wanted to put my two cents in.

by LBKpiratefan on Feb 16, 2010 3:54 PM CST reply actions  

Throwing off the back foot

I drive from DFW to go to the Jones games. I paid big $$ to see the Raiders at JerryWorld. I went to the Cotton Bowls and the Valero Bowl.

I love the Raiders!!!

But I am sick and tired of seeing Potts’ passes go “high and outside” (or worse yet, get intercepted) after throwing off his back foot. Where is the daily practice/quarterback coaching, please?

I vote for Sticks! I believe his body guards (the o-line) really play harder for the guy, rather than Potts. Sheffield was always patting the line on the back, encouraging them. I didn’t see that with Potts.

by redraidertom on Feb 16, 2010 5:57 PM CST reply actions  

On a side note.....

is Dustin Eskew still practicing with the team? I doubt he has a chance at the starting role but I was just curious.

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by KWashburn on Feb 16, 2010 8:25 PM CST reply actions  

Excellent preview, Seth

There have been only two other occasions the last decade where Texas Tech has had the fortune of a returning starter, but we have two, three if you count Doege, returning this year. There are two training sessions to go through before the starting QB NEEDS to be selected. Potts and Sheffield have the upper hand due to their possessing the most experience of returners. The possibility of someone other than them being named the 2010 starter is remote. Because Doege has an extra year and a small bit of experience places him slightly over Karem. So, until the decision is made, the starter is a tossup between Potts and Sheffield. What can throw this whole thing into a mixer is if Doege and Karen display enough moxie to push one or both of the leaders down. None of the four can be discounted. That is what Spring and Fall sessions are for: to determine the best option. What may be lost in the speculation is the fact that all four are very talented and capable of leading a BCS division team. While we all have our preferences, the choice of the starter rests with the coaches, with Tuberville having the last say. I can’t read his mind, especially not from about 380 miles away. But, he is an experienced coach and has the people in place to make sound decisions based on what they see and approve of, sorting through it all to make their choice for that coveted slot. I give in to them and can only hope that whomever is selected will lead the Raiders to the best possible year. The rest of you guys can continue arguing, but remember, you have zero say on who plays, so be ready to accept someone you may not prefer. But be happy. Tech will be fine.

TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.

by TTpilk645 on Feb 16, 2010 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

I know how to get 100 responses

Just say Quarter Back!!!
Interesting term. You don’t really have half or full backs anymore. Now we never had 3/4 backs right. Where did tailback come from? I guess the power I. Then you’ve got wing backs, slots, hell even nickel backs on the other side. Long live the wildcat.

Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!

by Plano Jeff on Feb 16, 2010 9:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Exactly.

Let’s see how many comments we get when we talk about linebackers.

Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Feb 17, 2010 4:32 AM CST up reply actions  

My preference is kick back....

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Feb 16, 2010 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

Potts will start come fall

he has more playing time than sticks does because potts played quite a bit of mop-up time in 2008 and he looked pretty good. I think potts gets his mental game straight and coach brown and cumbie fix his mechanics. Potts comes out and wows us and we have a great season. :)

by wrench_raider on Feb 17, 2010 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

That's second marriage logic

The triumph of hope over experience.

Please stop ending every controversial comment with 'Just saying'. Drives me batty. Thank you.

by mbrown603 on Feb 17, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Been there, done that, slow learner am I

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by TechFirst on Feb 17, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks !!

A Lot !!

I will mark that down as lessons learned and not consider #2 any more !

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Feb 17, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

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