What the heck is up with this?
by bmaxw on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
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I like to window shop online, and I like coming to Seth's place just to hang out and read what you guys post.
Here is the thing, I have been shopping some new camera gear at B&H. We are talking a serious investment so I have accelerated paying down the small amount of debt that I have before making this purchase.
Now all of sudden ever time I come to Double T Nation ever item I have looked at is flashed before my eyes in a B&H banner ad across the top of the page, or in that box on the right side of the page. I am all for free enterprise and SBnation paying it bills, but come on this is sadistic. Here I am trying to be a good steward of the family finances and Seth is whispering in my ear like the Devil to Faust. I am starting to think that Seth is really a Goldman Sachs Executive out to get us all into hock.
Seriously how does this work? How can they get that personal in the Ads? It really is amazing.
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Love B&H !!
BMAX, I noticed the same thing when I was shopping for some artwork for my wife. Art websites popped up everywhere, strange.
I buy all my Nikon photo gear from B&H and have to hide the bills from the wife. When she catches me with the new toys my defense is " you bought a new horse, I bought a new body or lens!!" What type of gear are you looking at?
"I thought happiness was Lubbock, Texas in my rearview mirror" Mac Davis
I am a Canon guy, but........
Right now I a considering a brace of Eos 5D Mark II with a group of L lens to cover from 17mm to 200mm. I like the full frame frame sensor, big bright view finder, plus the fact that I have been looking at the world that way for years.
My other choice is an Olympus system. They have some incredible glass (70-200 F2. equivalent!!)
The trade off is the 4/3 sensor, mainly in exposure latitude and high ISO. I can live with the ISO issue but not so much the narrow latitude.
I have faced this issue before years ago but at that time is was the compact size and incredibly bright viewfinder of the OM-1 system verses the robust build and lenses of the Canon F-1 system. I went Canon, as I most likely will this time unless Olympus really improves that sensor. The differance between 4/3s and APS-C sensors is not that great but when you jump to a full 35mm sensor It really makes an impact.
But OLY really does make some fine glass…….
Who is John Galt?
Oh how I long for the 5D MarkII
I got a hold of a review unit right before they came out.
It’s not something I NEED…it’s something I CRAVE.
If you’re already shooting Canon don’t you already have some Canon glass or are you wanting to upgrade your glass as well?
by Damien Franco on Mar 12, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
Yes I have Canon Lens
but I am planning to up grade. The 5D will make that necessary to get the most out of it.
To be honest I do not need high speed glass, other than a portrait lens, so that big sensor will be what gets my money.
Who is John Galt?
Understand.
Best portrait lens IMO for a full frame sensor on Canon is Canon EF 85mm f1.2L II USM Lens if you’ve got the coin.
I’m a huge fan of the 85 prime for portraits.
by Damien Franco on Mar 12, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
I am with you on the 85
I have a FL 85 f1.8 that I bought at a Good Will store. 10$
A FD 85 f1.2 ssc that I got with an AE-1 attached at a Pawn Shop. 25$
A FD 85 f1.8 that I purchased new. 325$
They each have their own look.
Too bad none of these will work on a Digital Camera.
The EF 85 f1.2 is on my list.
Who is John Galt?
85 vs 135
I assume y’all are talking about the 85 on the APS-sized sensors? 135mm was always the classic portrait lens on 35mm film cameras. While the mag. factor makes the 85 about the same as the 135 enlargement-wise, isn’t the perspective different than the 135?
My 85 is a tilt-shift macro Nikkor. Really fun to play with, but it doesn’t get much use.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
Actually...
I was referring to the 85 on a full frame and prefer a 50 on an APS-Sized sensor.
To get “technically” perfect perspective you have to take the diagonal measure of the film or sensor your camera uses and multiply it by two.
Without going into too much detail a medium format 8×10 “normal lens” would be 160mm which is why they make the 150mm lens for those cameras.
35mm film or full frame DSLRs would require a 105mm lens which is why they make the 100mm lenses.
There isn’t really a lens for APS sized cameras that fits that category. It would require a 60mm lens or something close to that.
I like to be a little closer when doing portraits so I can interact with the person so I’ve always opted for the 85mm on full frame/35mm or a 50mm on APS sized cameras. That’s my personal preference.
Clear as mud?
by Damien Franco on Mar 13, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Someone had to say something eventually.
by Damien Franco on Mar 11, 2010 1:36 AM CST up reply actions
Yes you did.
I was only doing my duty as one of the pot stirrers who happens to be awake at this hour.
Carry on.
by Damien Franco on Mar 11, 2010 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
If you're using Yahoo for search
it’s probably saved in the cookies. I assume that SBNation has access to those cookies if you also sign in with a Yahoo or facebook profile here at DTN.
Yes, BTW, ads are getting THAT personal and refined.
About your gear:
While I am a fan of B&H I always price compare with Amazon before a purchase. Often times you’ll find that the gear is listed at the same price and you’ll end up getting free shipping from Amazon if you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.
Sometimes you’ll find that Amazon has cheaper prices to begin with and the free shipping is an added bonus.
90% of my photographic purchases come via Amazon not B&H but I always check both places.
I've spent a small fortune on Nikon gear at B&H
Just not lately. A combination of age getting to my eyesight and frustration over the hours spent in Photoshop has dampened my photo passions in recent years (although hours spent in the darkroom weren’t much fun either).
MFAB 91 and bmaxw, what kind of gear are you using?
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
F100, D2H & D2Xs and numerous SB speed lights and lenses. Can they just make a programable body that you can download new software and upgrade the system so I don’t have to lose sleep over the latest & greatest processor, light sensitivity and MP count? Ofcourse not, how else could they get $3-5K out of you every couple of years. My cell phone has the same MP count as that D2H, amazing how fast the technology improves!!!
"I thought happiness was Lubbock, Texas in my rearview mirror" Mac Davis
F5, F6, D1X, D1H, D2X, D2H
And more lights and gizmos than I can remember. Lenses from 20mm to 800mm. And a refrigerator half full of film.
I went for years trying to keep up with the latest and greatest, but finally gave up a few years ago. What’s really a pisser is that some of those digital bodies I paid $3-5K for are worth about $500 today. The first few years of digital would have been a good time to stick with film. At least the glass holds its value pretty well, although adding VR has cut the price in half on my 300 and 600 2.8 AF-S.
I will say that new body that shoots HD video with the SLR lenses has got my attention, but I’ll have to wait till they move up to 1080. I figure that’s coming since the price on this body has dropped considerably.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
$$$$$$$$
TF, that is some serious money lying around. Are you a free lance PRO or former photo journalist? I say former since there are not many newspapers left.
I am not sure where I stand on the HD video abilities of a DSLR. I have a hard enough time with editing my still images and trying not getting to creative in post production. Now I have to worry about video and adding terrabytes of memory just to store it.
If I buy a D3S then the price will drop the next day, because that is when the D4 will hit the market. LOL I have to stop chasing technology and just wait till my current bodies go kaput.
"I thought happiness was Lubbock, Texas in my rearview mirror" Mac Davis
Realistically you don't have to worry about editing video.
Here’s the deal with the video in DSLRs:
It’s a feature!
You don’t have to use it. I don’t. I concentrate on the still images because I wanted to be a photographer not a videographer.
That said…there are many photographers doing some really cool things with the video capabitlies in the newest gear. Guys like Vincent Laforet and Chase Jarvis are tearing it up in that arena.
If you’re using Lightroom for your editing Lightroom 3 has video editing now which is pretty awesome.
by Damien Franco on Mar 11, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Editing is an issue for me, too
One thing that kinda burned me out a few years ago was all the time sitting at the computer. And I was only scratching the surface of Photoshop, more touch-up and sharpening than real alterations.
MFAB91, being a sports stringer for local newspapers was the closest I ever got to being a pro. Just a serious hobbyist (you know what they say about a fool and his money). I was more into nature photography and the competition is too fierce to try to make a living at that. I won a few contests and had a few pics published in magazines, but all of that together wouldn’t buy a good piece of glass.
What I’d really like to do is shoot some Tech games from the sidelines.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
Nice.
I always ALWAYS suggest using either Lightroom or Elements for editing.
I get 97% of all my editing done in either of those programs without having to open up Photoshop anymore. Faster, cheaper, organizes your photographs (both of them do this BTW).
Here’s an aritcle I wrote on my photography tutorials website where a reader asked a question on which photo editing software to get for her husband at Christmas.
by Damien Franco on Mar 12, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks, Canon Man
I’ll read that. I’ve heard many times that Elements will do almost everything I use PS for.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
That's just because you are a man
And that is about all you think about. At least that is what my wife says.
"I find I'm so excited. I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitment only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope." Red-Shawshank Redemption
Cookies My Friend
The magic of targeted marketing. Th reason the founders of Google are so wealthy.
John Hancock
The google is a beautiful thing
Too bad it’s going to end so badly. After gathering all of this information from us for years, the google will someday morph into a huge, evil robot and will shoot us all with fireballs and thunderbolts.
"I swear, I'm gonna stab you with a fork."
-Gerald Myers or Kent Hance
by San Antonio Red Raider on Mar 11, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
But the film of all our familiar landmarks being obliterated will be very cool to watch
I’m up for any movie that blows up the White House and the Hoover Dam with laser weapons.
John Hancock
That, my friends
is the definition of optimism.
"I swear, I'm gonna stab you with a fork."
-Gerald Myers or Kent Hance
by San Antonio Red Raider on Mar 11, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
There are no fireballs or thunderbolts
what they are doing is subtley taking a little bit out of you each time you log on or change sites…it shows first as the color of your hair goes away, then your skin starts showing as the rest of you kind of dries up leaving it wrinkley and pruney….
You gotta have a heavy gauge aluminium head gear for the inter doings….
women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans
That makes sense
And it explains why I would still get carded for beer when I first started reading DTN and now I get the “early bird” special at Golden Corral with no questions asked.
"I swear, I'm gonna stab you with a fork."
-Gerald Myers or Kent Hance
by San Antonio Red Raider on Mar 11, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
And the whiskey had nothing to do with it. ;-)
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
First Aid is not
a prescription, it is a respone…
A prescription comes later…and it may be that a considered analysis prescribes more of the initial first aid response….
women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans
I see...
I think.
Hard to read. I’ve been drinking my prescription/first aid all day.
by Damien Franco on Mar 12, 2010 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
It is like a lot things, the detail is really not all that important
the key is effective treatment !!!
women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans
I’m having the problem of picking a wide-angle. I currently shoot on an APS-C sensor, so my only option is the EF-S 10-22. In the next year or two, though, I’m going to upgrade to a FF (either the 5d mk II or the mk III if it’s out by then), and then I’ll need another wide-angle. I’m going to keep my XSi when I upgrade, mainly for telephoto.
All EF-S wides are L, so my options are:
- spend $800 now on a lens I won’t need later, and then spend about $1500 more on whatever wide L glass is available at the time;
- wait until I upgrade to FF to get a wide-angle, saving the $800 now;
- spend $800 on the EF-S and totally scrap the idea of going FF since I’ll have every effective focal length from 16-408.
Right now my only L is the 70-200 f/2.8 L non-IS. My favorite lens though is probably my 50 f/1.4. I really want to upgrade for several reasons, the primary one probably being to get a camera with dual D!GIC 4 processors. The 7D is more affordable and a great camera, but it doesn’t make sense since it’s also an APS-C.
After all is said and done, more is said than done.
That's a tough delemna because you're looking for wide.
Usually the question of full frame vs APS-C is a matter of “what are you doing with the photographs?”
I know it’s all great and dandy to have the finest equipment but…
I still (STILL) get along fine (mostly) with my old Canon 30D. I have great glass that I’ve been collecting for that day that I do upgrade the body but because I don’t do weddings anymore it’s hard to justify getting a 5D MarkII. I like the 7D as an alternative and really the only compromise (once you’ve gotten used to adjusting lens mms) is getting your hands on a solid wide angle lens.
If you’re outdoors alot you’ll benefit from the tighter seals on the 5Ds but you have to ask yourself if it’s worth the added investment.
You can spend $800 dollars on the wide angle now…and get the 7D (which will also save you tons of money even without Geico!) and I still find it hard to justify the 5D MarkII pricetag unless your a fairly successful pro where it’s an investment in your business.
by Damien Franco on Mar 12, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaCU
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Damn whipper snapper
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
Since this FanPost has evolved into a discussion about
photography, I thought I’d share this video (http://vimeo.com/9679622?hd=1). Tilt-shift video of NYC and it was well worth the 5 minutes.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
glad you cleared that up Seth,
I thought they were either typing in tongues, or talking about a new Tuberville defense.
"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach
Ok, enlighten us.........
How was that video done?
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Without going into too much detail.
They’re using a tilt-shift lens which allows the camera to distort the viewing plane.
It’s an optical illusion where a very small depth of focus allows the foreground and the background to render out of focus.
This messes with your internal “sense of scale” and makes things appear to become minature as we’re used to seeing ultra short depth of field images found in macro photography or when our eyes are “focusing” on small objects.
by Damien Franco on Mar 13, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
So that was in fact not a minature NY City?
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
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