Tale of the Tape: Part 2 - Comparing Performance
In this second installment of Tale of the Tape, we compare Leach's and Tuberville's respective performances.
In Tale of the Tape Part I we established that the scheduling differences between Leach's Texas Tech teams, Tuberville's Auburn teams and Tuberville's Mississippi's teams were largely insignificant.
There was little to no difference in the quality of their non-conference schedules.
Tuberville's Auburn teams played against more ranked opponents than did Leach's Texas Tech teams, but that difference stemmed primarily from playing in the SEC, and accounted for 7 more ranked opponents over a 10 year period.
However, when we examine the degree of difficulty of the ranked conference opponents, we see that Texas Tech faced more challenging competition than did Auburn by virtue of having to play Oklahoma and Texas on an annual basis.
Having established that the opponents faced by the two coaches were more or less equal, we now move on to compare their performances.
(Updated March 17, 2010. Corrected bad loss calculation (added loss to Kansas in 2001 as bad loss to Leach's record) and elaborated on the subject of division titles in the conclusion. Minor grammar adjustments.)
Achievements
Let's acknowledge some basic facts.
While at Auburn, Tuberville's 2004 team went undefeated, while finishing number 2 in the country. Tuberville's Auburn teams have captured 1 SEC championship and 4* SEC West division titles (asterisk to be explained later in the post). Meanwhile, Leach has never won the Big 12 South or the Big 12 title while at Texas Tech.
Table 1: Top 25 Finishes
| 1999 | 2000 | 2001 | 2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | |
| Leach | NR | NR | NR | NR | 18 | 20 | NR | 22 | 12 | 21 | |
| Tuberville-Auburn | NR | 18 | NR | 14 | NR | 2 | 14 | 9 | 15 | NR | |
When we review the two coaches' relative performance, we see that:
- Tuberville's teams finished in the Top 10 twice, while Leach's teams have never finished in the Top 10.
- Tuberville's teams finished ranked 11-25 on 5 occasions (including 22nd ranked Mississippi in 1997). Leach's teams also finished ranked 11-25 on 5 occassions.
- Tuberville's teams finished unranked 4 times, while Leach's team finished unranked 5 times.
Breaking Down Winning Records
In the table below we categorize the coaches’ records against non-conference opponents, conference opponents and bowl opponents.
Table 2. Records versus Non Conference, Conference and Bowl Opponents
| Record Against Non Conference Opponents (winning %) | Record Against Conference Opponents (winning %) |
Record Against Bowl Opponents (winning %) |
Overall Record (winning %) | |
| Leach |
31-6 (83.3%) |
47-33 (58.8%) |
6-4 (60%) |
(84-43) 66.1% |
| Tuberville-Auburn |
28-7 (80.0%) |
52-30 (63.4%) |
5-3 (63.4%) |
85-40 (68.0%) |
| Tuberville-Mississippi |
12-0 (100%) |
12-20 (44.4%) |
1-0 (100%) |
25-20 (55.6%) |
| Tuberville Aggregate |
40-7 (85.1%) |
64-50 (56.1%) |
6-3 (66.7%) |
110-60 (64.7%) |
As we can see, Leach and Tuberville benefited nearly equally from playing an accommodating non-conference schedule. The coaches’ respective conference records show that Tuberville, while at Auburn, slightly outperformed Mike Leach, and that at the bowl level the teams had roughly similar success.
Performance Against In-Conference Opponents
While at Auburn, Tuberville registered a slightly higher winning percentage against in-conference opponents than did Leach at Texas Tech. Tuberville’s aggregate record, due to his less successful tenure at Mississippi, is lower than Leach’s winning percentage.
Tuberville’s winning percentage differential while at Auburn is a function of playing 2 more games than Leach and winning 4 more conference games than Leach over a 10 year period.
Of course, not all opponents are equal.
A common belief is that the competition in the SEC is more challenging than the Big 12; ergo Tuberville’s performance against SEC competition is considered more impressive than Leach’s performance against Big 12 opponents.
Let’s take a closer look at this particular assumption.
Each year Jeff Sagarin ranks the most successful/difficult conferences. In this table, we compare the SEC and Big 12 conferences. According to the table below, for example, in 2008, the SEC was ranked as the most successful/difficult conference followed by the Big 12 at number 2.
Table 3. Sagarin FBS Conference Rankings (Source: USA Today)
| 1998 | 1999 | 2000 | 2001 | 2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | |
| SEC | 3 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | (X-1) |
| Big 12 |
(X-1) | (X-4) | 3 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 5 |
| Average SEC Conference Ranking |
2.63 | |||||||||||
| Average Big 12 Conference Ranking | 3.40 |
Notes: The items marked with an X show a particular year's ranking, but are not included in the average ranking because, for example, Leach was not a head coach in 1998, so that year is not included in Leach's average, but is listed for posterity. Unfortunately, I do not believe Sagarin's conference go back to 1996 and 1997 - please let me know if any of you have that data for those years.
Based on comparing the conferences using the Sagarin ratings, it would be logical to conclude that Tuberville has an edge over Leach in terms of having to play more difficult in-conference competition than did Leach.
On the other hand, if we take a closer look at the ranked in-conference opponents which both teams actually played, a different picture emerges.
Table 4. Ranked In-Conference Opponents (based on end of season AP poll)
| Number of Ranked Conference Opponents |
Average Ranking of Top 25 Conference Teams |
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| Leach | 26 | 8.8 | |
| Tuberville-Auburn | 33 | 11.3 | |
| Tuberville-Mississippi | 13 | 13.2 | |
| Tuberville Aggregate | 46 | 11.8 |
As covered previously in Part 1, over 10 years, Leach's teams played 26 ranked opponents within the Big 12. The average ranking of those 26 opponents was 8.8 (based on the end of season AP poll). Over 10 years while at Auburn, Tuberville's teams played 33 ranked opponents within the SEC. The average ranking of those 33 opponents was 11.3.
While you should concede that, overall, the SEC has been a more difficult conference than the Big 12 during the respective coaches' tenures, when you look at the ranked opponents played, you are able to argue that the degree of difficulty of Leach's opponents was actually higher than Tuberville's opponents.
Some of you might disagree with this approach. Some might believe that the Sagarin ratings are a more accurate means of measuring degree of difficulty between conferences. I am ready to surrender this argument, however, in doing so I would ask that the Sagarin disciples then acknowledge that Tuberville's 13-0 season be discounted on the basis that it occurred, according to Sagarin's ratings, during the SEC's worst overall year over the past 12 years.
(Personally, I find the Sagarin conference ratings important at an overall level, but not sufficient to answer whether Texas Tech or Auburn faced more difficult competition. The overall conference rankings also factor, for example, Vanderbilt's relative standing to Baylor. While that is an interesting measure in itself, it is less relevant to the question we are trying to determine here. Assessing the performance against ranked conference opponents gives us a better basis against which to compare the two teams.)
Performance Against Ranked Opponents
Let's now take a closer look at each coach's record against ranked opponents.
Table 5. Performance Against Ranked Teams
| Record Against Top 10 Teams |
Winning % Against Top 10 Teams | Record Against Teams 11-25 |
Winning % Against Teams 11-25 |
|
| Leach | 4-17 | 19.0% | 9-25 | 26.5% |
| Tuberville-Auburn | 6-11 | 35.3% | 18-25 | 41.9% |
| Tuberville-Mississippi | 0-3 | 0% | 1-12 | 7.7% |
| Tuberville-Aggregate | 6-14 | 30% | 19-37 | 33.9% |
At first glance, these statistics show Tuberville winning in a route. Tuberville has a 30% aggregate winning percentage against Top 10 teams (based on end of season ranking) while Leach has just a 19% winning percentage over Top 10 teams. Tuberville has a 34% aggregate winning percentage against teams ranked 11-25 according to end-of-season rankings (which includes a 42% winning percentage while at Auburn), while Leach's record scores lower at 27%.
Before we move forward, let's consider a rhetorical question. Is it more impressive for a 2nd ranked team to defeat an 8th ranked team, or is it more impressive when an unranked team defeats a 5th ranked team?
If you believe that the former is a more impressive accomplishment, then return to paragraph one in this section. You already have your answer and feel free to skip ahead. However, if you believe in the latter (or are just curious), see the discussion below.
In the chart below we create two definitions called Superior Team and Inferior Team. A Superior Team is defined as one which has a higher ranking than its ranked opponent (based on end of season AP Poll). An Inferior Team is defined as one which has a lower ranking than its ranked opponent (also based on the end of season AP Poll).
The chart then assesses the Win-Loss totals against ranked teams when a team played as the Superior Team and the Win-Loss totals when a team played as the Inferior Team.
Table 6. Performance against Top 25 Opponents (based on End of Season AP Poll)
| Wins as Superior Team |
Loss as Superior Team | Winning % as Superior Team |
Wins as Inferior Team |
Loss as Inferior Team |
Winning % as Inferior Team | |
| Leach | 3 | 1 | 75.0% | 7 | 21 | 25.0% |
| Tuberville-Auburn | 8 | 4 | 66.7% | 8 | 20 | 28.5% |
| Tuberville-Mississippi | 0 | 0 | 0.0% | 1 | 12 | 7.7% |
| Tuberville-Aggregate | 8 | 0 | 66.7% | 9 | 32 | 22.0% |
As we can see from the table, Auburn and Texas Tech beat the teams they were supposed to beat, and upset a number of higher ranked teams with similar rates of regularity.
The difference in winning percentage ultimately comes down to the fact that Tuberville's teams were superior to its opponents more often than were Leach's teams, but both coaches shared relatively similar winning percentages as Superior Teams. When playing Top 25 teams as Inferior Teams, their performance was likewise almost identical.
In the chart below which examines Tuberville's performance against Top 10 teams, we see separation in favor of Tuberville.
Table 7. Performance against Top 10 Teams (based on end of season AP Polls)
| Wins as Superior Team |
Loss as Superior Team | Winning % as Superior Team |
Wins as Inferior Team |
Loss as Inferior Team |
Winning % as Inferior Team | |
| Leach | 0 | 0 | 0.0% | 4 | 16 | 20.0% |
| Tuberville-Auburn | 3 | 0 | 100.0% | 5 | 11 | 31.3% |
| Tuberville-Mississippi | 0 | 0 | 0.0% | 0 | 5 | 0.0% |
| Tuberville-Aggregate | 3 | 0 | 100.0% | 5 | 16 | 23.8% |
As the chart shows, in the three instances when Auburn was favored against another Top 10 team, Tuberville's teams delivered on each occasion.
As an underdog, Tuberville and Leach fared similarly, although Tuberville's Auburn teams were more successful than Leach's Texas Tech teams at knocking off Top 10 teams.
On this metric, we must give the nod Tuberville, especially as this category includes an Auburn victory over the 2006 National Champion Florida Gators. Tuberville's reputation as a Big Game coach might be a bit overhyped (isn't everything by definition?), but there is certainly substance on which to base the claim.
The Bad Loss
If there is anything that has driven Tech fans crazy over the years, it has been Texas Tech's penchant to absorb a bad loss on what seems to be an annual basis. The most common understanding of a ‘bad loss' is a one which involves defeat at the hands of an inferior opponent.
While this is true, I also expand the ‘bad loss' definition to include losses to teams by 21 points or more (the equivalent of three touchdowns). This is a somewhat arbitrary decision on my part, but generally I would struggle to define a 31-10 loss, for example, as an acceptable margin of defeat under most circumstances. Such a score usually demonstrates a wide disparity of performance between two teams that cannot easily be explained away by an untimely turnover or other such examples which might sway an otherwise close performance.
For those who wish to increase or decrease the 21 point hurdle rate, I concede that there are plenty of justifiable reasons to do so.
Let's examine the breakdown below:
Table 8. Overview of Bad Losses
| Bad Losses vs Inferior Opponent |
Bad Losses by >21 points |
Total Bad Losses |
Bad Losses as a % of all Games |
Bad Losses as a % of all Losses |
|
| Leach | 6 | 13 | 19 | 15.0% | 44.1% |
| Tuberville-Auburn | 10 | 12 | 22 | 17.6% | 55.0% |
| Tuberville-Mississippi | 0 | 8 | 8 | 15.6% | 35.0% |
| Tuberville-Aggregate | 10 | 20 | 30 | 17.6% | 50.0% |
As we can see from the table above, contrary to some widely held beliefs, Tuberville actually experienced more bad losses in his tenure than did Leach by a fairly significant margin. Tuberville suffered almost twice as many losses against inferior competition, while both coaches experienced a similar number of losses by more than a 21 point margin. Over half of Tuberville's losses are represented by bad losses, while 44% of Leach's losses are defined as bad losses. Leach suffered 1.9 bad losses per year, while Tuberville's Auburn teams suffered on average about 2.2 bad losses per year. When you read some of the past critiques of Tuberville's time at Auburn, one of the laments was that Tuberville's teams were susceptible to the bad loss. These numbers seem to support that criticism.
Table 9. Bad Losses (21 points or more)
|
Leach |
Tuberville-Auburn |
Tuberville-Mississippi |
|
2000: Nebraska (50) 2001: Texas 2002: Ohio State 2002: Colorado 2002: Oklahoma (30) 2003: NC State 2003: Missouri (30) 2003: Oklahoma (30) 2004: Texas (30) 2005: Texas (30) 2006: Missouri (30) 2007: Oklahoma (40) 2009: Texas
|
1999: Tennessee 1999: Arkansas 2000: Florida (30) 2000: Florida 2001: Arkansas 2002: Arkansas 2003: LSU 2003: USC 2006: Georgia 2007: Georgia 2007: Wisconsin 2008: Alabama (30)
|
1995: LSU 1995: Florida 1995: Auburn (30) 1996: Tennessee (30) 1996: LSU (30) 1996: Alabama (30) 1998: Arkansas (30) 1998: Mississippi State
|
Of course when we look at defeats by a margin of victory greater than 21 points, we see that Leach's teams were slightly more susceptible to the spectacularly bad loss (i.e. losses by greater than 30 points or more). On this basis, Leach's teams suffered defeat by 30 points or more on 8 occasions, while Tuberville's teams suffered such defeats on 7 occasions (twice while at Auburn and five times while at Mississippi).
Of Leach's 8 spectacular defeats, he suffered losses by 30-39 points 6 times, a loss by 40-49 points on one occassion, and a loss by 50 points or more 1 time (these particular losses and the margin of victory are denoted above, i.e. 2002 Oklahoma (30) represents a loss to Oklahoma by 30-39 points).
All of Tuberville's 7 spectacular defeats were decided by 30-39 points.
Why were Leach's Texas Tech teams more subject to spectacular losses than Tuberville's Auburn teams?
One explanation could be that Leach's teams were more grossly outmatched by its opponents on those handful of additional occasions. In the case of Texas Tech's loss to Nebraska in 2000, this is probably true.
Another explanation (and in my view more likely) is that by the nature of Leach's offensive philosophy, Leach's teams were susceptible to slightly higher rates of lopsided defeats due to the risks that he was willing to take to overcome early deficits that other coaches are not.
One only needs to watch a Leach-coached bad-loss to see the difference in coaching styles. Most coaches usually accept at some point that a comeback is unlikely, and largely stick to the core game plan. The loss might still be considered ‘bad', but by burning the clock and shortening the game, other coaches in a similar position are less liable to endure a spectacular loss.
Opposing coaches, recognizing that a losing team has waved the white flag, will likewise limit the game plan in acknowledgement. Leach's teams, in contrast, continue for the most part to take the same risks whether winning or losing.
Recognizing that Leach has no intention of conceding a loss, being somewhat mindful that Tech's prolific offense has the ability to comeback from early deficits, and possessed with the knowledge that a Leach-coached team refuses to relent when it is in the process of overwhelming its own opponents, opposing coaches see no reason to offer a Leach-coached team similar leniancy.
Personally, I think a bad loss is a bad loss whether by 25 points or 40 points just as I consider its corollary, a ‘convincing win, ' a convincing win whether by 25 points or 40 points. I appreciate that others may disagree (which is why I also supply the data for their counterargument).
Bad Loss - Inferior Opponents
Defining a bad losses to an inferior opponent is more subjective than defining a bad loss based on a pre-defined margin of victory.
The after taste of a bad loss also tends to linger based on perceptions prior to a game's outcome.
If a team is expected to win overwhelmingly, based on pre-game expectations, yet loses instead, such a loss for most sports fans is still considered a bad loss, even if the victorious team in question proves over the course of the season that it was indeed the better team based on its overall record and end of season ranking.
Table 10: Bad Losses versus Inferior Opponents
|
Leach |
Tuberville-Auburn |
Tuberville-Mississippi |
|
2001: Kansas 2002: Iowa State 2004: New Mexico 2006: Colorado* 2007: Colorado 2009: Texas A&M*
|
2001: Alabama* 2003: Georgia Tech 2005: Georgia Tech 2006: Arkansas 2006: Georgia 2007: South Florida 2007: Mississippi State 2008: Vanderbilt 2008: Arkansas 2008: West Virginia
|
No losses to inferior opponents |
As Tech fans, we know that bad losses to inferior opponents are pretty self evident. The losses to Colorado in 2006 and Texas A&M in 2009 are marked with asterisks to demonstrate losses by 21 points or more (rather than counting such losses twice, I consider losses to inferior teams a greater sin than losing by a wide margin, hence losses to inferior teams of any sort are reflected in this category).
I did not include the 2009 loss to Houston, because I personally believed before the season that it was going to be difficult game coming after the Texas game, being on the road and playing a quality team. I appreciate if others feel that the game should be included here.
Tuberville's losses require a bit more explanation, mainly because as Tech supporters, most of us are less familiar with his record. I justify attributing Tuberville's bad losses as follows (figures in parentheses represent final season records, followed by end-of-season rankings):
2001, losing 31-7 to a then 4-5 Alabama (7-5, NR). 2003, lost 17-3 to unranked Georgia Tech (7-6, NR) on the road as a pre-season #6 team, 2005, losing the season opener 23-14 to unranked Georgia Tech (7-5, NR) at home as the #16 ranked team 2006, losing 27-10 to then unranked Arkansas (10-3, #15) at home as the #3 ranked team 2006, losing 37-15 to then unranked Georgia (9-4, #23) at home as the #5 ranked team 2007, losing 26-23 to South Florida (9-4, NR) at home as the #17 ranked team 2007, losing 19-14 to Mississippi State (8-5, NR) at home 2008, despite a #10 preseason ranking, Auburn would lose to then #19 ranked Vanderbilt (7-6, NR) on the road (the first time Auburn had lost to Vanderbilt since 1955) 2008, losing 25-22 to Arkansas (5-7, NR) at home as the #23 ranked team 2008, losing to then unranked West Virginia (9-4, #23) on the road
As we can see from the discussion above, Tuberville's teams actually were more vulnerable to the bad loss than were Leach's teams over the years.
Division and Conference Championships
This should be an easy one.
Leach's teams never played for the Big 12 Championships nor won the Big 12 South outright. Conversely, Tuberville's Auburn teams won 4 SEC West crowns and 1 SEC Championship. End of discussion right?
Let's take a closer look.
First of all, let's examine Auburn's 4 SEC West crowns under Tuberville.
Auburn won 2 outright SEC West championships with a 6-2 conference record in 2000, and with a perfect 8-0 conference record in 2004.
In 2002, Auburn tied for first place in the SEC West division, along with Arkansas and LSU, each finishing with 5-3 conference records. However, that year the conference's best team was actually Alabama which finished with a 6-2 conference record, but was ineligible for the title due to previous NCAA sanctions. Furthermore, Arkansas, by virtue of a tie-breaker, having defeated both Auburn and LSU, would ultimately go on to represent the SEC East in the 2002 SEC Championship game.
In 2005, Auburn again tied for first in the SEC West with LSU, each finishing with 7-1 records. However, LSU defeated Auburn in head-to-head competition and represented the SEC East in the 2005 SEC Championship game.
To claim that Auburn won 4 SEC West titles is a stretch by most sensible interpretations. I doubt there are many Tech supporters who believe Texas Tech, having tied Oklahoma and Texas for the best record in the Big 12 South in 2008, find consolation in that achievement given that it was Oklahoma, based on the Big 12's tie breaking formula, which represented the Big 12 South in the Big 12 Championship game.
Auburn's two outright division championships in 2000 and 2004, as well as Auburn's SEC crown in 2004, however, are without question impressive accomplishments.
Winning the Big 12 South Division
Since we are on the subject of division championships, it is worthwhile seeing if we can answer Chancellor Hance's and other critics concerns about Leach's inability to defeat Texas or Oklahoma on a more frequent basis, and about Leach's inability to win the Big 12 South championship.
While the sentiment might be the correct one (I, for one, concur in principle), perhaps the better question is, "what does it actually take to win the Big 12 South Division?" Does winning the Big 12 South Division require the same effort as winning, say, the ACC Coastal Division, the Conference USA West Division or, more specifically, the SEC West Division?
There are 12 conferences in the FBS (Division I). Of these conferences, 5 conferences are separated into 2 divisions. These conferences are the Big 12, SEC, ACC, Conference USA and the Mid American conference.
In the following discussion we attempt to establish the degree of difficulty which Big 12 South teams face to win the division.
Let's examine the national rankings of the top finishers in the Big 12 South division and the SEC West division during Leach's and Tuberville's respective tenures.
Table 11. Big 12 South and SEC West Top 3 Finishers (and end of season rankings)
|
1999 |
Alabama (8) Mississippi State (13) Mississippi (22) |
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2000 |
Oklahoma (1) Texas (12) Texas A&M (NR) |
Auburn (18) LSU (22) Mississippi |
|
|
2001 |
Oklahoma (5) Texas (6) Texas A&M (NR) |
LSU (7) Auburn (NR) Alabama (NR) |
|
|
2002 |
Oklahoma (5) Texas (6) Texas Tech (NR) |
Alabama * (11) T-Auburn (14) T- Arkansas (NR) T-LSU (NR) |
|
|
2003 |
Oklahoma (3) Texas (12) Oklahoma State (NR) |
LSU (2) Mississippi (13) Auburn (NR) |
|
|
2004 |
Oklahoma (3) Texas (5) Texas Tech (18) |
Auburn (2) LSU (16) Alabama (NR) |
|
|
2005 |
Texas (1) Texas Tech (20) Oklahoma (22) |
T-LSU (6) T- Auburn (14) Alabama (8) |
|
|
2006 |
Oklahoma (11) Texas (13) Texas A&M (NR) |
Arkansas (15), 10-4 Auburn (9), 11-2 LSU (3), 11-2 |
|
|
2007 |
Oklahoma (8) Texas (10) Texas Tech (22) |
LSU (1) Auburn (15) Arkansas (NR) |
|
|
2008 |
Texas (4) Oklahoma (5) Texas Tech (12) |
Alabama (6) Mississippi (14) LSU (NR) |
|
|
2009 |
Texas (2) Oklahoma State (NR) Texas Tech (21) |
||
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Average Ranking of Division Winner |
4.3 |
7.9 |
|
| Average Ranking of Top 2 teams |
7.9 |
12.2 |
|
As we can see from the table above the average ranking (according to end of season AP poll) of the Big 12 South division winner during Leach's tenure was 4.3. In contrast, the average ranking of the SEC West's division winner during Tuberville's tenure was 7.9.
By this comparison, we can see that in almost all instances, winning the Big 12 South over the past decade has required the division champion to be one of the Top 5 teams in the country on an annual basis.
The Big 12 South winner's highest AP ranking occurred twice when two teams finished number one - once in 2000 when Oklahoma won the National Championship and once in 2005 when Texas won the National Championship.
The worst finish for a Big 12 South division champion occurred in 2006 when Oklahoma finished number 11 in the AP final polls.
The best AP poll finish for a SEC West division champion occurred in 2007 when LSU, the SEC West division champion, was crowned National Champion.
The worst AP poll finish for a SEC West division champion occurred in 2000 when Auburn, as the 18th ranked team in the country, secured the division title.
However, as the above table indicates, the challenge in the Big 12 South is not just overcoming a single Top 5 opponent.
Over the past 10 years, the top two finishers in the Big 12 South have achieved a combined ranking of 7.9. Over the past 10 years, Texas and Oklahoma have finished in the top two slots on 18 of 20 occasions - 90% of the time.
In contrast, in the SEC West over the past 10 years, the top two finishers have achieved a combined average ranking of 12.2. The larger number reflects a more significant drop-off in the quality of the competition between the SEC West's top two teams.
For the record, the average ranking of the SEC East champion was 6.3 from 1999-2009 - think Florida, Georgia and Tennessee. The average ranking of the SEC East's top two finishers was 10.7 (indicating a slightly higher degree of difficulty than the SEC West).
Likewise, in the Big 12 North, the average ranking of the Big 12 North champion was 11.9 from 2000-2009. On three occasions from 2004-2006, the Big 12 North division champions finished the season unranked.*
The level of competition in other divisions does not compare with that which is faced in the Big 12 South. No other division requires defeating the equivalent of two Top 10 teams on an annual basis. To compare Leach's inability to win one at least one division title over the past 10 years to the Big 12 North division championships won by Gary Pinkel at Missouri or Bo Pelini at Nebraska blatantly ignores the differences in degrees of difficulty between divisions.
To put it another way, if Texas Tech had been a member of the Big 12 North, and only had to face either Texas or Oklahoma once a year instead of twice a year (or in some cases not at all), one can easily envision Texas Tech winning the Big 12 North division title on multiple occasions over the past decade.
When we compare the SEC West and Big 12 South teams here, we see that the two most consistently dominating teams for 10 years have been Oklahoma and Texas. Texas has been consistently dominant (1 national championship, 6 Top 10 finishes, 3 finishes ranked 11-25), while Oklahoma has finished just one season ranked outside of the Top 25 (1 national championship, 6 Top 10 finishes, 2 finishes ranked 11-25).
In contrast, during Tuberville's tenure, Alabama finished in the Top 25 just four times and LSU finished in the Top 25 a total of six times. Georgia, which is actually a member of the SEC East , was Tuberville's only consistently dominant competition during his tenure finishing in the Top 25 during each of Tuberville's 10 years at Auburn (despite playing in different divisions, Auburn plays Georgia every year as part of the oldest rivalry in football dating back to 1892).
During Leach's tenure, Texas and Oklahoma were consistently better teams, and Tuberville now assumes Leach's previous unenviable task of playing two such teams, usually on an annual basis, just to escape the division. When you look at Texas Tech's in-conference rivals, how can a knowledgeable football fan (or certain chancellor) be overly critical of Leach's performance against two of the top teams over the past decade, both of which have won national championships? That comment continues to boggle my mind.
As Leach experienced, and Tuberville will soon learn for himself, winning the Big 12 South division is a challenge like no other in college football. We as fans can sometimes be guilty of underestimating the uniqueness of Texas Tech's challenge and the challenge of all Big 12 South teams for that matter.
For Texas Tech to win the Big 12 South, the goal appears to be a simple one: finish the season as a Top 5 team.
If Texas Tech is unable to win the Big 12 South but still hopes for an at-large BCS bid, then it is required to finish the season as a Top 10 team. Texas Tech must also hope that either Oklahoma or Texas finishes ranked 11 or below while also hoping that the gap between Texas Tech and its nearest ranked division opponent is sufficiently wide enough to enable a bowl selection committee to ignore one of its larger, wealthier traditional rivals and justify selecting Texas Tech instead.
Of course, the other strategy is to hope that Oklahoma and Texas both have down years and that Texas Tech outperforms both schools in such an event. That has not been the case for the past decade, and based on performance, recruiting trends, enduring coaching tenures and the like, does not appear to be likely going forward either.
*(Note that in calculating the average rankings for each conference, I assigned a score of 25 for any team which was not ranked at the end of the season. Of course in the case of the Big 12 North, SEC West and SEC East, this approach actually inflates the average rankings of the top 2 division leaders as reflected here, particularly for the Big 12 North. I don't include a combined average for the top two teams in the Big 12 North, because with so many unranked teams accounting for the top two slots, the measurement is not meaningful. In the Big 12 South, only one year included a non-ranked team among the top 2 finishers - Oklahoma State in 2009 which finished second.)
Conclusion
As we can see from this discussion, there is little which seperates Leach and Tuberville in terms of performance. The discussion indicates that both coaches are nearly as impressive as each other.
Leach and Tuberville have roughly similar winning percentages across the board.
Tuberville holds a slightly higher winning percentage against conference opponents, but Leach's degree of difficulty was higher than Tuberville's degree of difficulty based on the quality of actual ranked opponents played.
Tuberville has a higher winning percentage against Top 10 opponents, while Leach and Tuberville have roughly similar records against teams ranked 11-25 (although Tuberville's Auburn teams significantly outperformed Leach's teams against opponents ranked 11-25).
However, all success is relative. As favored opponents against top 25 teams, Leach and Tuberville performed similarly. As underdogs against top 25 teams, Leach and Tuberville likewise performed similarly.
Tuberville's teams were nearly twice as likely to suffer a loss to an inferior opponent than were Leach's Texas Tech teams. Texas Tech under Leach and Auburn under Tuberville suffered losses by excessive margins at a similar rate.
Over half of Tuberville's losses can be defined as bad losses, while about 44% of Leach's losses can be similarly defined, although Leach's teams, by virtue of style of play, are more susceptible to spectacular losses than are Tuberville's teams (or most other teams for that matter).
As the head coach of Auburn, Tuberville distinguishes himself from Leach based on his ability to defeat Top 10 teams on a more frequent basis than Leach. Tuberville's tenure also shows some distinct advantages over Leach's tenure. He has won an SEC Championship. He has won the SEC West division on at least two occasions. Leach has never played in a Big 12 Championship nor has he won the Big 12 South.
The key point in assessing the degree of difficulty in winning the Big 12 South is to emphasize that Leach's inability to capture the division title is hardly due to lack of ability. The Big 12 South, during Leach's tenure, simply happened to be significantly more difficult than all other divisions in college football. Teams ranked less than 11 did not win the Big 12 South during Leach's tenure.
In the Big 12 North, teams ranked less than 11 in the AP Poll won the division title on 7 occassions (3 were not even ranked). During the year that Kansas tied for the Big 12 North division in 2007 and finished 7 in the final AP Poll, it never had to play Oklahoma or Texas. Missouri, the other Big 12 North co-champion in 2007, also did not play Oklahoma or Texas in the regular season. When Missouri, then ranked number 1, finally faced Oklahoma in the Big 12 Championship game, it was slaughtered 38-17.
When we compare the Big 12 South's degree of difficulty to the SEC West, the Big 12 South has proven to be a more challenging division overall. I am not discounting Tuberville's achievements, but a reasonable person cannot hold Leach's lack of division titles against him either given the circumstances.
Over 10 years, not once have I heard Leach complain about Texas Tech's situation. That's the job. When he does ultimately land another head coaching job, free of the Big 12 South yolk, we are very likely to see Leach's teams achieve a number of division and conference titles.
Based on many comments here at the DTN and elsewhere, a common sentiment is that Leach could not take Texas Tech to the next level and now we have a coach in Tuberville who can. One of the aims of this post is to quantify what it actually means to ‘take it to the next level.'
Many of us now hope that Tuberville will be able to achieve what Leach was unable to accomplish in his tenure at Tech - which is to win the Big 12 South division, capture the Big 12 championship and play for a national championship. Tuberville himself has set the same goals. Some of us are more hopeful than others.
For Texas Tech to capture the Big 12 South title, it is effectively required to finish the season as one of the Top 5 teams in the country.
Similarly, based on the performance of Big 12 South teams over the past decade, for Texas Tech to win an at-large BCS bid, it would have to finish the season as a Top 10 team while significantly outperforming either Oklahoma or Texas.
For Texas Tech, by virtue of playing in the Big 12 South division, to achieve any one of these distinctions, completing no less than a near flawless season seems to be the minimum requirement.
Since commencing competition in the SWC in 1958 and the Big 12 in 1996, Texas Tech has reached this level three times: 1973 (11-1), 1976 (10-2), 2008 (11-2). In all three instances, Texas Tech failed to capture an outright conference or division crown.
Wreck 'em!
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Respect...
After the first pass, I have even more respect for London, for the Big 12, for Leach, and yes for Tubs, who will have to have “no less than a near flawless season” to keep it.
Another great read LR.
If I understand all the tables correctly, basically an even match – historically.
That being said, its kinda like driving from Lubbock to Ruidoso, you can get there in a convertible at Mach2 or you can get there in a Buick sedan. One will be more fun however.
"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach
+1
I see what you did here. Very nice. However, if Ruidoso is a championship, the Buick has already been there and back a few times, and the convertible hasn’t made it past Billy The Kid’s Gravesite.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
I wouldn't give Tubs credit for winning titles at Tech until he wins a title at Tech
I would say the level of talent coming to Tech is comparable to the level of talent Ole Miss gets in the SEC.
John Hancock
I didn't give Tubs credit for winning titles at Tech...
I gave him credit for winning titles period. Nothing in LR article or Blackbeards comment had anything to do with Tub’s future at Tech, and neither did my comment.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Er...."play out"
Slight slip of the tongue there:>p
TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.
One difference
Ole Miss was Tubs first stop and he did not fare as well as Leach did in his first stop at Tech. The Auburn gig, Tub’s second gig, for him was a much better ride as they are traditionally better overall in the SEC as opposed to Tech in the Big-12. It will be very interesting to see this all pay out for Tubs at Tech and for Leach wherever he may wind up.
TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.
HUH!?
Must have missed that somehow. The previous reply was meant for this, my own post….apologies to Jeff.
TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.
Can I borrow you to do my taxes?...
On a serious note – London, thanks again for the stats. They don’t lie and just offer clarity that Leach and Tuberville are basically equal. I for one have been proven wrong in my thinking that Tuberville did not incur as many ‘bad’ losses as he did and that he didn’t have as many inferior opponent losses as Leach. It’s definitely a wake up call for sure.
Nonetheless, I will stay positive and keep hopeful that if the offensive is only tweaked, instead of dismantled and take into consideration that our defense will be much improved, then by simple reasoning, it’s possible a Big 12 South Championship and subsequent Big 12 Championship is very possible. TU and OK always pose the biggest threats and headaches (far superior talent), not to mention an up and coming ATM, so winning these games will be critical in obtaining our goals. Preparation + Luck will be key, and a blessing from the Football Gods wouldn’t hurt…
Agree. Whether it's too much free time, or borrowed time, or stolen time, thanks for your work.
It’s information like this that make DTN the most addictive website I’ve ever been on. I especially like the comparison between the 2 divisions. Sometimes we might overlook the fact that our football team has been pretty successful in an era where UT and OU are on a great run too.
Thanks again.
"I swear, I'm gonna stab you with a fork."
-Gerald Myers or Kent Hance
by San Antonio Red Raider on Mar 17, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Great stuff......
London you have a real talent and time to do this stuff……I think one thing to remember for TTech now is that we are getting the South Plains Drifter 10 years into his HC run. We got the Pirate at the beginning and just how remarkable the Pirate did @ TTech. I do think the SPD is smarter now than when he was @ ole miss, and I think he learned alot from taking the year off and just watching games as an analysist, and I think listening to his sons, especially the older one, about what they like and obviously they like a Spread O…..so to me this just underscores what a great job the Pirate did( I wish he was still our coach but he is not!) and that very possibly the SPD can use what his football wisdom form the previous years(especially the last year) and push to another level……he has the talent and maybe the schedule falls right in 2010 to make a real push!!! Wreck’Em Tech
For the record...
I DESPISE the polls and would be more likely to take Sagarin rankings. The polls are RIDICULOUSLY flawed (example, Texas only got to #5 in the ‘04 season by leapfrogging California for NO REASON (granted, we beat them in the bowl, but like our ’08 Cotton Bowl performance, I don’t think that’s a reliable indicator)). The problem with the polls is they are WAY too subjective and all too often tainted by “this team SHOULD be ranked higher just because their reputation/history/fanbase/dollars says so”.
I would also dispute your characterization of the Auburn ‘04 season, first, regardless of opinion on the conference, they DID finish undefeated (which we still have not done yet, IMO 2009 was a “down” year for the Big12 and UT only got to the BCS NC game due to “they should be there” (and a lack of believable other options), last year’s UT team was NOT that great and neither was most of the conference). Also, here’s Auburn’s ranked opponents of 2004 (parenthetical, PreBowl BCS rank, final AP rank):
LSU (11, 16)
Tennessee (twice) (15, 13) *
Georgia (7, 7)
Va. Tech (8, 10)
- - Tennessee finished the year at 10 – 3, TWO of the 3 losses were to Auburn (reg. Season + SEC Championship), without that double whammy they’d likely have been Top-10.
It should also be noted that if we exclude Va. Tech (who was their opponent in the bowl) all but one of their competitors IMPROVED their ranking in the bowl. (Ga. was ranked #8 in AP prior to the bowl, even though they were ranked #7 in BCS)
Compare, Leach’s Best Season (2008), ranked opponents:
Texas (3, 4)
Oklahoma State (13, 16)
Oklahoma (1, 5)
One can easily argue that ‘08 UT & OU were better than ’04 Ga. & VT, but if we call OSU & LSU a push, then I’d call it at LEAST even since Auburn had to play a very good Tennessee team TWICE, and Tech had no appreciable competition outside of these three. The fact of the matter is that Auburn has 1 outright conference championship and we have none.
In the data you listed, Tuberville finished outside of the top 3 in his division 2 times, we finished outside the top 3 4 times in the Leach era (and one of those times, 2006, was a terrible year for the conference).
Most important is this, whether you think Toberville can (or cannot) do better than Mike Leach against the Big 12 South will be seen over the next few years. But regardless of that (and don’t get me wrong, I think Leach got jobbed and I loved having him as our coach) if the “answer” is that Leach never won a conference championship (or even outright division title) because he had to play UT AND OU, well that’s not going away. So if he couldn’t do that then may we DID need a change at the top. I disagree with that view, and I think Leach was just starting to hit his groove with recruiting and the staff and the next 2-3 years would have told us a lot. But no matter what you think on the record or the comparative teams, Tuberville took his shot when it came (2004) and was able to push his team to a conference title and an undefeated season. The Arizona Cardinals played in an AWFUL division in 2008 and the Houston Texans played in one of the toughest in the league. One made it to the Super Bowl, the other didn’t make the playoffs. You play with the cards you’re dealt and try to make the most of the opportunities you’ve got.
i think we are in agreement on most points
I actually think Tuberville’s 2004 13-0 season is a great accomplishment.
I do not disparage the achievement at all. My intent on referencing Auburn’s record to Sagarin’s rating of the SEC in 2004 is to actually call into question those who would prefer that the Sagarin ratings be the sole method of comparing the quality of Tech’s and Auburn’s conference opponents.
You are correct about Auburn’s 2004 conference opponents.
At the end of the day, in 2004 Auburn defeated one top 10 SEC team and two top 25 SEC teams – no matter how Sagarin assesses the quality of the conference.
How Auburn performed againt Vandie, Ole Miss, and Miss State is less relevant than how Auburn performed against ranked competition like LSU, Tennessee, etc.
Also, of the 12 SEC teams, Auburn only plays 8 of them in a year, so whether the remaining 4 teams are among the top 5 teams or the among the worst 5 teams is irrelevant to assessing Auburn’s conference competition so long as Auburn never played them.
Similarly, the Big 12 may have been the second best conference in 2008, but given that neither Kansas or Missouri actually played the two best teams in Texas or Oklahoma in the regular season (and in Kansas’s case not at all), why would we point to the Sagarin conference ratings to justify the quality of their specific conferences performances?
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Mar 17, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks again LR...top notch
One take away for me is “never fire a winning coach, but if you do, make sure your hire another winning coach”. Your data suggests there is reason to be hopeful the winning will continue.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Yes, Yes, and crossing your fingers would not hurt!
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Mar 17, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Unrelated...
has tech always had these practice unis, or are they new this year?
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
TTUMAR.....
From the practice pictures I have seen we have always had practice unis but only the jersey and helmets were consistant(D was black and O was white). But it appeared the players could wear whatever( black or red) shorts, socks, and shoes they wanted. I think it will probably be more uniform with the South Plains Drifter…That will be a more “professional” atmosphere to the Pirate’s “laidback” atmosphere( no cut here just an observation). Wreck’Em Tech
Tuberville getting us in a BCS bowl versus Leach
We are the “RED RAIDERS”, Leach likes “PIRATES”. Tuberville gets us into a BCS bowl it’s like West Virginia getting to one. Nice story, next. Leach gets us to one and his personality gets us SO MUCH attention. I support our new coach, but we aren’t special anymore. I liked being special. We can’t be Texas, yet we hire a Texas-lite coach. GET RID OF THE AD AND ALL THE OTHER IDIOTS WHO GOT RID OF LEACH! But, again, I support Tech, and the football program, but we’ll be lucky if we have a higher profile during the next 30 years. Personalities in college football make news, and storied, traditional program make news. Leach became a personality, despite our decent records. You think if Tuberville had been coach the last 10 years while we haven’t even won a division title that 60 Minutes or the NY TIMES WOULD HAVE BEEN IN LUBBOCK? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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