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Diving Into the Details :: Parsing Into the Words of Texas Tech Offensive Coordinator, Neal Brown

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Last weekend, LAJ's Don Williams talked with new Texas Tech offensive coordinator Neal Brown regarding the offense. That particular day, I only had time to post a quick FanShot of the story, but promised to go into more detail at a later date. I thought we might take this article quote by quote and dive into some questions at the end.

First things, first. I took the time to chart at what appears to be the only lengthy recent video from the 2008 Troy Trojan's football team, which was apparently their first drive in a game against LSU, that ultimately led to a touchdown. Troy eventually lost the game, 31-40 and it was Brown's first year as an offensive coordinator, as well as the first year for their quarterback. I'll explain some of my abbreviations: SG = QB in shotgun; Rec = Receivers; 2 Rec L = 2 receivers lined up on the left side; Empty RB = Empty Backfield; Rec trips L = Receivers trips left. If you have any other questions or if I've gotten something wrong, let me know.

Play 1: QB SG; 2 Rec L; 2 Rec R, Empty RB, extra lineman at TE spot: pass complete for 8 yards
Play 2: QB SG; Rec trips R; RB to L, 1 Rec to L: pass incomplete
Play 3: QB SG; trips right; Empty RB; 2 Rec to L: pass complete for 4 yards
Play 4: QB SG; 2 Rec L; 2 Rec R; RB to L: pass complete for 12 yards
Play 5: QB Pistol; 1 RB behind QB; 1 RB behind LG; 2 Rec L; 1 Rec R: play action fake, pass incomplete
Play 6: QB SG; Rec trips L; 2 Rec R; Empty RB: pass complete for 24 yards
Play 7: QB SG; RB to R; 2 Rec L; 2 Rec R: pass incomplete
Play 8: QB SG; RB to R; 2 Rec L; 2 Rec R: pass complete for 9 yards
Play 9: QB SG; Rec trips R; 2 Rec L; Empty RB: pass complete 5 yards for 1st down
Play 10: QB SG; Rec trips R; 1 Rec L; RB to R: pass incomplete
Play 11: QB SG; Rec trips R; 1 Rec L: Penalty, no play
Play 12: QB SG; 2 Rec L; 2 Rec R; RB to R: run for 13 yards
Play 13: QB SG; 2 Rec L; 2 Rec R; RB to R: pass complete for 13 yards
Play 14: QB SG; 2 Rec L; Rec trips R; Empty RB: pass incomplete
Play 15: QB SG; 2 Rec L; Rec trips R; Empty RB: pass incomplete
Play 16: QB SG; 2 Rec L; Rec trips R; Empty RB: pass complete for 9 yards
Play 17: QB SG; Rec trips L; 2 Rec R; Empty RB: pass complete for 7 yard TD

We'll be using this film as a bit of a comparison to what we know in regards to the Air Raid offense.

 

Now that we've taken care of some of the details, let's get to some of Brown's comments regarding the offense after the jump.

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Empty Backfield:

The Raiders will use some empty-backfield formations, something Leach almost never did. Brown said he used empty sets three to five plays a game in his last job — offensive coordinator at Troy University, which finished third in the nation in total offense last season.

"It wasn’t a deal where we got in it and stayed in it a bunch, but we definitely will utilize it some,’’ he said.

I should preface everything by saying that this single drive against LSU isn't necessarily indicative of what's going to happen or of Troy's entire 2008 season. I think what it does say is that there may be something to learn from this and that despite what some are saying about the offense changing completely, Brown and Tuberville might be telling the truth.

In any event, by my count, Brown called 8 plays where there was an empty backfield. Now, I'm sure that this had something to do with LSU being a demon against the run in 2008 (18th in the nation) and Brown wanting to exploit what he thought was the vulnerable part of the LSU defense.

What I think this offensive play-calling speaks to is the idea of Brown calling and the quarterback executing what the defense gives him, which is what Leach taught his quarterbacks to do. Williams makes the point that Leach almost never ran an empty backfield, and this may be a significant difference. Leach always felt that the running back was one of the more important positions on the team and liked having a running back in the game as a quick out or to help block. Although the video has quite a bit of empty backfield sets, I tend to think that this was more circumstance than anything else and not standard operating procedure for Brown.

Running Back in a Pod:

There might be plays in which the Raiders line up with four receivers bunched to one side, with running back Baron Batch stationed in a pod behind three wideouts.

I don't think we saw this once in the video, but then again, I wasn't paying that close attention nor do I know the Troy personnel.  I think this will be a new formation for the Red Raiders.

Quarterback Audible:

Tech quarterbacks will be allowed to switch from one play to another at the line of scrimmage, but won’t have the broad latitude that Leach gave them.

"Part of (the reason), he was here a long time, and those guys were on the same mind frame,’’ Brown said. "The guys we have at quarterback are smart, but I want to be careful about putting too much on them. I want them to be playing and not thinking. I don’t think either way’s wrong. There’s just different ways to do it.’’

In what Brown described as "the triple option,’’ Taylor Potts or Steven Sheffield would come to the line with three possibilities: Throw a quick screen to the three- or four-wide side; throw a slant, an out route or a fly pattern if there’s one-on-one coverage to the other side; or — if the linebackers empty out — run a quarterback draw.

I don't see this as being a huge deal. I think that sometimes when you gave the quarterback an awful lot of latitude that it tended to result in even less opportunities to run and as quarterbacks matured, they started to rely on the run a bit more, at least that was the case with Harrell and to a certain extent Potts over the course of the year. In any event, I don't think that Brown wants to completely neuter his quarterbacks, but rather limit their options.  And there are a number of times in the film where the quarterback makes a call at the line of scrimmage.  There's latitude that's going to be given there, but not quite the same amount of latitude that Leach gave his quarterbacks.

Motion:

Leach seldom used motion, but Brown will incorporate it a little bit more.

"We won’t be a huge motion team either,’’ he said, "but we’ll have a wrinkle or two of motion each week. It’s not going to be a deal where we’ll motion every play.. I don’t believe in that either.’’

Not one time during this offensive series did Brown utilize motion. If we learned anything, it's that Leach didn't like to use motion, but motion could be used as a tell as far as a defensive alignment. Towards the end of last year, especially when Potts was at the helm, Leach used motion in order to give Potts a bit of an idea as to whether or not the defense was in man or zone coverage, which I think made it easier for Potts to recognize where he needed to go with the ball. I tend to think that Brown and Leach are essentially on the same page in terms of motion. They'll use motion as a wrinkle (i.e. running Harrison Jeffers in motion or some other receiver for a quick hand-off), but ultimately they would prefer not to have to use it, but if they have to, then so be it.

Wide Splits:

In the Leach era, announcers and opposing coaches made frequent reference to the offensive line’s wide splits. Brown said the usual line splits at Troy were about 3 feet, the ones Tech has used at about 4 feet. Now he guesses they’ll be somewhere in between.

"We’re going to be as wide as we can and still be able to run the zone,’’ he said, referring to the Raiders’ bread-and-butter rushing play.

In looking at the film, it appears that the splits are as wide as Brown states. I would tend to think that they'll shorten up a bit, but if we're talking about a difference of 6 inches, then I'm not too concerned about that.  I think it's a misconception in that the wide splits would disappear and if that does happen, then obviously, we can look forward to a ground based attack.  Brown has been consistent in the fact that he wants to keep the wide splits, something that I think is crucial to having a successful running game in the spread offense.  Brown said it to Willilams and he also made sure to tell the crowd at the recruiting dinner in DFW that the wide splits would remain.

Looking to the Sideline:

Brown said he won’t use a system that Troy used at times in which all 11 offensive players looked to the sideline at the line of scrimmage.

"We won’t do that here,’’ he said. "The skill guys may, but the O-line won’t.’’

I'll be honest, I could care less about aesthetics. I know that this is a touchy subject with a lot of people, whether or not the entire Texas Tech offense will look to the line of scrimmage to get the offensive play. Honestly, I could give two shits as to whether or not just the quarterback gets the play or the entire team. Again, to me, it's superficial aesthetics and if the team is more successful and the offense is more efficient then I could care less. I get that it looks silly and it's aggravating to see other teams do it, but at least in my opinion, this is unimportant.

To satisfy the masses to hate for the whole offense to look to the sideline, it appears that Brown is just going to have the quarterback or the skill positions look to the sideline for the play. Whatever gets the job done. If the team plays better with just the quarterback looking over, then I'll take it. If the team plays better with the entire offense looking over, then I'll take it.

Summing It Up:

It's been repeated a number of times here on DTN, there's really no way to really know until after the spring game and truthfully, that's probably only an indicator.  It's going to take a few games or even a full season to really know how the offense is going to perform and whether or not the offense is as efficient as we've known it to be.  Sometimes, I think we (and I'm including myself here) tend to over-analyze words.  Considering DTN is in written form, I think that this response is natural, but when Tuberville said he was going to keep the offense the same, I tend to believe that he meant the spread offense in general, which I think he has done. 

Of course, Tuberville also said that the offense would not change, and that's not entirely the truth.  The offense will change.  The only thing that could have kept the offense the same would have been if Tuberville hired Mike Leach as his offensive coordinator and kept the rest of the gang intact.  If there's one thing that I think we've all been able to agree upon, it's the idea that Leach was a completely unique coach that cannot be replicated.  That's a high compliment.  That doesn't mean that Tuberville and Brown are not trying to put his own stamp on the team and run a similar version of the spread.

**ASIDE:  Pouring over someone's quotes is certainly advantageous at times and I don't mean to discredit anyone here for reading a person's quotes and trying to translate the meaning.  A perfect example is this years Saga of Mike Leach, where myself, London Raider and a number of readers and contributors found numerous discrepancies in what the administration said.  The fact that we have a smart group here at DTN makes me proud in that collectively, we analyze the written word, especially when you consider writing to be somewhat of a lost art.

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This made my coffee much better this morning.

Thank you sir!

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by KWashburn on Mar 4, 2010 5:55 AM CST reply actions  

No problem.

There was absolutely no news this morning, except for the Baylor center punching one of our gals last night. I wasn’t scheduled to publish this until 10:00 a.m. but figured what the hell.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Mar 4, 2010 6:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm glad you did,

after 8:00 my day is going to get mucho busy. Well, it’s supposed to. Depends on what the majors want to due regarding crude oil.

So, it was better to read this now and have something to ponder all day.

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Mar 4, 2010 6:13 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

It made coffee much better too!

by ezed on Mar 4, 2010 6:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Play action fake from the pistol......

Troy’s first series with a scoring drive…..

The set of plays that Brown called in are well chosen. I would like to see more plays run from under center just to throw the defense off or keep them honest with their intentions. A 2-back set with 2 recievers on the right and 1 on the left has always seemed to be king around these parts.

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Mar 4, 2010 6:39 AM CST reply actions  

And to head anyone off at the pass

Leach did not draw up his offense on bar napkin, he had a real playbook. Feel free to compare with Brown’s offense.

Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Mar 4, 2010 6:54 AM CST reply actions  

Or here, I'm pretty sure they are the same.....

Leach’s Brain

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Mar 4, 2010 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

We analyze the written word......

I’m sure politicians on both sides are glad our scrutiny is on college football coaches and not the ethical vortex that is DC.
I’m not going to change the office, I’m just going to make it better. That quote is intriguing, if not an oxymoron.

" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me

by oldschoolraider on Mar 4, 2010 7:10 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Offense....not office

" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me

by oldschoolraider on Mar 4, 2010 7:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You just changed the offense.......

Which is quite offensive. Get outta my office.

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Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Mar 4, 2010 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Good analysis

Can’t wait to sse the Red/Black game. Tell me again why there has to be an off season for football?

Please stop ending every controversial comment with 'Just saying'. Drives me batty. Thank you.

by mbrown603 on Mar 4, 2010 7:31 AM CST reply actions  

Baseball and Hockey.

At least for me anyway…..

No, no no no, you’re right. Why is there an offseason?

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Mar 4, 2010 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

raiders took off

This basketball season

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Mar 4, 2010 8:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

We have a basketball team?

Oh, the women do, what a game last night.

"I find I'm so excited. I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitment only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope." Red-Shawshank Redemption

by cweber7377 on Mar 4, 2010 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Did you attend?

Did you see it !

If so, please consider writing a fan post about what you saw. We Lady Raider fans would enjoy seeing your perspective.

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Mar 4, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

No

Sorry, that was in jest based on the fight. I live in South Texas (SA) but wouldn’t mind seeing a game. Sorry, Tall Mike to lead you astray.

"I find I'm so excited. I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitment only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope." Red-Shawshank Redemption

by cweber7377 on Mar 4, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

You did not lead, I jumped !!!

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Mar 4, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Without an offseason

We wouldn’t know how much we how much we like football. On anothe note and maybe opening a can of worms, I wonder if by limiting the number of plays the QB can check off to one or two, will that affect the perfomance of the QB’s. Potts maybe better if he doesn’t have to think on the field. It is up to coaches of course. Wreck Em!!!!

"I find I'm so excited. I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitment only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope." Red-Shawshank Redemption

by cweber7377 on Mar 4, 2010 8:16 AM CST reply actions  

My spelling is terrible

On another note

"I find I'm so excited. I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitment only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope." Red-Shawshank Redemption

by cweber7377 on Mar 4, 2010 8:17 AM CST up reply actions  

This was great. Nice to see some to read about the concepts and reasons behind it. I’m with you on the Prairie Dog. It doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s fun to make fun of, but beyond that it’s not an issue. I would venture a guess the coaches tend to be smarter than the QBs and skill players, plus they have the eye in the sky relaying formations over the headet.

As for line splits, I think that’s also an overrated part of our offense. It wasn’t copied by very many teams, so was it truly a difference maker? I don’t know, but if we are a half a foot closer to eachother, that also doesn’t bother me.

I think a LOT of the issues people have with the “new” offense have much more to do with affection for Leach than it does the formations or personnel packages. Their guy isn’t here, they didn’t want him to leave, so they need a target to vent towards. I think that pretty much sums up a lot of the frustration and fear.

by Tech92 on Mar 4, 2010 8:41 AM CST reply actions  

I mostly agree.....

but you do have history to look at with Tubs, and his offensive style. You can say he didn’t have Brown, but even those on board should be the slightest bit concerned that when push comes to shove and the head coach is making the call….will he not go back to what he has been for the last 15 years? I think picking apart minute details of TT is due to him not being Mike, but to have a little hesitation about what he really wants to do offensively I think is logical. Since I didn’t follow Troy football prior to January, I am hoping for the best.

" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me

by oldschoolraider on Mar 4, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree with you…I don’t think, though, he’s the type not to realize what the situation is. He knows full well he can’t go to a running attack at Tech and win. But keep in mind that for 15 years he has focused his energy on defense. The fact that Auburn sells itself for the most part made his job easier on the plains. Tech is not Auburn as it pertains to tradition and perception, as much as I’d like to think it is. He knows that the type of player who would be interested in Tech has expectations of what they’re getting.

by Tech92 on Mar 4, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Not yet, anyway...
He knows full well he can’t go to a running attack at Tech and win.

But if he starts recruiting FBs and TEs now… he can have us back to the SWC days in a recruiting generation or two… I’m just saying…

by battledome on Mar 4, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

But he knows he probably won’t win with that, so why do it? That helps nobody, least of all him.

by Tech92 on Mar 4, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

You think he's not still committed to the run?

A tiger can’t change his stripes. He can’t run the ball now… but… if he recruits right…

by battledome on Mar 4, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell, Texas can't even run the ball any more

Why would anyone think we could.

Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!

by Plano Jeff on Mar 4, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Almost agree...

Oldschool is correct in that it is entirely natural to be hesitant with CTT since he tried a spread and then 7 games in reverted. But it was a different situation, forced on him by a lunatic admin. I don’t blame anyone on this board or the others for worrying. But i also believe what CTT has said and I think his hires only solidify that intention.

But..Tech 92, you have to understand that within the state of AL, Auburn has always been the stepchild. And they have to recruit against Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, Georgia Tech, FSU, Florida, Ole Miss, LSU….ALL in a gegraphical area smaller than Texas recruiting. Auburn had a great class this year…but it HAS always been a struggle
Auburn still has no NC…but at least we do have 1 more Heisman than Bama! LOL.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-Benjamin Franklin.

by G. Kevin on Mar 4, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Prairie dog...

I think some of my problem with the prairie dog is that I have seen a very effective offense without it…
(we all have over the past ~ 9 years…)
So… by your judgement that it’s fun to make fun of… Why would we want to run an offense that’s fun to make fun of when we can be as effective as we have been without it?
Personally, I like the players on the field to be focused on the QB on the field… they need to be in case the QB options away from the call anyway… The QB has some time to get the call from the sideline toward the end of the previous play or as the other o-players are getting back to the line. so it seems that would be more efficient from a timeing perspective… and would help maintain offensive momentum…
Plus, I had a baseball practice field when I was a kid that became infested with prairie dogs… I hate those pesky varmits…!

by Houston Raider on Mar 4, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Outstanding Analysis

I’m excited about this guy, I think he’s a very innovative offensive mind. To turn Troy’s offense into a national leader leaves little argument. Having Brown and Willis on either side of the ball really gives you the sense of one of those genius coaching sidelines that every program with a coaching vacancy will be salivating at come offseason.

It also shows how completely opposite Tubs and Leach are….whereas Leach was very hands-on with his approach, Tubs likes to surround himself with smart people, and let them do their thing. I don’t think there is a right or wrong way…both can be effective…just different leadership styles.

What does worry me is our quarterback situation. No matter what your coaching style, no matter how innovative your offense….if your QB just doesn’t get “it” (Potts in ‘09), we’re doomed. One of Brown’s comments gave me some hope about this issue:

The guys we have at quarterback are smart, but I want to be careful about putting too much on them. I want them to be playing and not thinking.

There’s no way of knowing for sure, but it seemed to me this year that Potts just didn’t pick up the “signal caller” mentality that Leach had instilled in every other TTU QBs….to read the defense, recognize formations, audible at the line accordingly, and then pick the D apart with confidence.

Maybe for the first time in a decade, we have a QB who needs to be coached rather than be the coach.

Or then again…maybe Sticks is the better option anyway!

by 2001Raider on Mar 4, 2010 8:53 AM CST reply actions  

I think

That even though Leach was hands on he did hire smart people on his staff as well. Ex Leach assistants out there that I can remember are Dana Holgerson OC at OSU and U of H, Sonny Dykes HC at Louisiana Tech, Lincoln Riley and Mcneill OC and HC respectively at East Carolina, Mistek (Spelling) is HC at Hawaii, and isn’t Littrell OC of co OC at Arizona. Lots of movement this year and I am may be wrong on some and may have missed some. But, no doubt I think the South Plains Drifter has filled his staff with excellent people as well. We probably have the best defensive staff in 30 years and still have an excellent offensive staff.

"I find I'm so excited. I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitment only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope." Red-Shawshank Redemption

by cweber7377 on Mar 4, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Hoping your Potts or Sticks question

was rhetorical

" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me

by oldschoolraider on Mar 4, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I got a real charge watching that Troy drive on Youtube

But the very idea of Taylor Potts being our signal caller again this year has me severely depressed. Please no Neal. Watch all the game film from last year & discount what you see in practice where no hitting the QB is allowed. Look at film of last years’s Red-Black game, where for the 1st time in Leach’s tenure, the 1st team defense shoutout the starting offense. That was Potts’ debut against a full speed defense. We should have figured something was wrong then.

Please stop ending every controversial comment with 'Just saying'. Drives me batty. Thank you.

by mbrown603 on Mar 4, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Because I remember seeing something similar with

the defense the year before..with Harrell, Crabtree, Elf, and Lewis in the lineup, I did not give much consideration to the Red-Black game. And the consideration that I did give was aimed more at the receivers than the qb…who were mostly new also.

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Mar 4, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't honestly say I'm sold one way or the other.....

Yes, based on last year’s performances by Potts and Sticks, Sticks has the edge. But I still can’t 100% honestly say I think he’s the better option because….

1. I just don’t think his porcelin frame can hold up throughout the course of a full Big XII season. If I did think he could make it through a whole season, I’d say he’s the better choice…but since I really don’t think its possible, I think we’d eventually see Potts come in even if Sticks was named the starter initially. If he’s going to play eventually, and considering how much time we’ve already invested in developing him, why not try to develop Potts rather than cast him away (presumably in a dark closet).

2. Potts showed flashes of greatness at various times throughout the season. Yes, he showed more flashes of screw-ups, misreads, forced passes, etc. But remember also, that it was his first year to start and there are learning curves for all first year starters.

3. I wonder if simplifying the offense for Potts could improve his play.

by 2001Raider on Mar 4, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

It is also possible that if the QB has only one or two plays to check down to, Potts may play better because he doesn’t have to think as much. I’m not saying he’s stupid, but less thinking under pressure may allow both to play by feel and instinct. Under that scenario the better QB could be different. Then maybe not. Whomever is the QB, I will say, Go Tech, because they are just kids. Wreck Em!!!

"I find I'm so excited. I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitment only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope." Red-Shawshank Redemption

by cweber7377 on Mar 4, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

It's his lack of touch that's fatal

Watch his screen passes. The recievers always have to break off their route to come back to the ball. He almost always throws the short passes near their feet. Then on the long balls they have no arch so the reciever has no chance to get to them in time. He has a pretty looking long pass but if nobody is there to catch it, we can’t use it. Then the mid-range passes are all rocketed in leading to drops right and left. That’s just the passing flaws. The decision making, the gracelessness under pressure, the happy feet, the always present look of fear in his eyes. He’s not QB material. Make Sticks the starter & get a RS Frosh or sophmore ready as his backup in case he goes down.

Please stop ending every controversial comment with 'Just saying'. Drives me batty. Thank you.

by mbrown603 on Mar 4, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

or simply start

Karam and win a B12 championship

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Mar 4, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

BAZINGA!!

Yes, I said that yelling…..

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Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Mar 4, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

knew you would

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Mar 4, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that why our receivers as a larger group do not do all that well in the pros

because they cannot catch a pass from a strong armed qb ?

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Mar 4, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

excellent question

and personally I think that is why GH is not in the pros……….to weak on the hot throws.

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Mar 4, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Every flaw you point to with Potts is correctable.

Its unfortunate that they weren’t corrected last offseason, but its a new season this spring. It really doesn’t make sense to completely give up on him with all the time that has been invested already. Even if he loses the starting position to Sticks, he’ll see action at some point in the season.

Also, the fact that he got banged up, benched for a walk on, and booed by his own fans and classmates and still got out there and gave it his all…shows that he has heart in my book.

by 2001Raider on Mar 4, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

YOU GOT IT BUBBA.

well said

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Mar 4, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I would like to admire Pott's moxy ....

from the sidelines. I see a lot of toughness in the kid, but he is not to the level that his predecessors have set for our offense. Good kid, and I feel for him….but I will upchuck my pancreas if I have to watch a season of his backfoot throws that look more like me throwing lawn darts than the top notch passer we have had.

" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me

by oldschoolraider on Mar 4, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Fade-aways work great in basketball…in football, not so much. maybe we should put Potts in a tank top?

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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
-Benjamin Franklin.

by G. Kevin on Mar 4, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

2001

I can use your same argument in favor of Sticks.
A. Potts is a statue, which will cause…
B. Him to get another cuncussion, he’s already had at least one bad one and they’re like even worse every one you get.
I think the QB is more than just a signal caller or passer, he’s a leader of men. For me, Sheffield just inspires the kids to get 100% of their potential. Makes it fun, and I love the demension he gives our offense. I liked the comment about triple option, where the third option is QB draw. That doesn’t seem like Potts was in mind when Brown said that.

Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!

by Plano Jeff on Mar 4, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Great write up Seth

Really good information here. I agree with most that the offense won’t be identical. How could it be? Leach was very unique to say the least and unless we clone him we won’t see the same offense. I say this not to take anything away from Tuberville. Lots of CEO’s come into companies stating things will remain the same. It’s not untruthful so much is it is an attempt to keep what works. Brown will do his absolute best to instill an offense that mirrors what we are all used to seeing. It will be close but certainly not the same. IMO I think it could get better in some cases. We may be on the verge of a more successful offense. I speculate just as much as the next guy but I do think this staff as a whole is a very motivated group that will burn the midnight oil to succeed. If the right QB hits the field in the fall I am convinced we will score a lot of points.

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by Raider1992 on Mar 4, 2010 8:58 AM CST reply actions  

This youtube clip is sloooowwww loading

Had to settle on watching the LSU cheerleaders perform “Jungle Boogie”.

"It might look like zombies destroyed it, but that’s just Garland"

by Raider2010 on Mar 4, 2010 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

More motion.....

I like the idea of using more motion and in fact we say the Pirate use more after the uh game. It seems to cause even more trouble for the D. I do like the wide line splits and I think that that is the real indication that fundamentally the O will be very similar. Because unlike what bob davies’ thinks the splints are there for bigger passing lanes not for running lanes! Wreck’Em Tech

by techgolf44 on Mar 4, 2010 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

Nice write, Seth.

The playbook linked by KWash is also interesting.

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Mar 4, 2010 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

parse smarse its just coach speak

Folks all good points. Fans want continuity, change is bad and anything different is held up to scrutiny. There is no doubt the new regime of coaches will establish their own system, get their own drills and terminology established. I can’t see anything which leads me to believe they won’t run a "spread" attack. They clearly want to win games and cutting on them for their press releases wherein they set the conditions for expecting a championship is just not honest. It is just normal Coach speak. Tubs is on public affairs (fence mending tour) sweep to get the disaffected fans back into the fold. It’s glaringly apparent he’s the CEO above the fray manage and lead the organization. Long way to say he’s going to demand success and expect to control the pace of the game thru the two coordinators. They are either going to perform or get the axe. The success path that Dykes and Leach put the program on has set up these folks to be successful in their own right.
On offense watch for a more deliberate attack with rushes interspersed with the short pass. Can’t see this crew ever going for it on 4th down in the Raiders end of the field. I do see them throwing scads of short passes to receivers and backs. I do see a up tempo spread much like OU’s just because this is a demonstrated way to wear out a defense and deny them a substitution package or two per drive . Harrell seemed to be better getting to line than Potts so this tool seemed to fall off in 09. Hard to tell. Coach Neal will certainly try to get good at this prior having ut arrive in Lubbock. But the run game plays to the strength of the offense lots of big O linemen and 4 x quick scat backs.
Defense the rub is can Our def. coordinator conjure up a few more stops per game. I think Coach Willis will put an extra Safe at Linebacker on most plays if they embrace the 3-3-5 defense. Speed in the zone blitz. If they stay with 4- 3 then it’s probably a short yardage or goal line situation.
 Special teams I like the kicking game now that M. Williams has really replaced Alex Trlica. The other kickers punters seem to be more than adequate on kick offs and punts. The above mentioned not going for it on 4th down tendency will manifest itself in more punts – if the offense isn’t effective in scoring converting 3rd downs etc. This is the thing that battledome, chad 0454 and others have complained about i.e. a perceived lack of productivity by injecting a slower, more conservative approach to managing the game. Leach tried to break peoples backs by refusing to get off the field. I don’t doubt we have seen the end of that – former – go for broke attitude. Thing is with the Head coach being in charge of the Special team I would expect to see an uptick in block packages and way less penalties on returns. Just hard to go back to the sidelines and get yelled at for screwing your team. With demonstrated fearless returners like Stephens and Zouzalic may haps we see a score on a returns trend. (Release your inner W. Welker please). With kick blocks comes momentum. In 08 T. Carboneet seemed to be getting very close in 09 not so much. For now I will take Tubs at his word.

"do routine things routinely"

by centexraider on Mar 4, 2010 10:35 AM CST reply actions  

can't spell

 ..extra Safety at Linebacker..
..in 08 T. Charbonet

"do routine things routinely"

by centexraider on Mar 4, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

About looking to the sidelines

What’s the difference whether or not the team looks to the sidelines or the QB gets the play then everyone looks at him?

Does it really matter how they get the play as long as they…get the play?

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Mar 4, 2010 12:36 PM CST reply actions  

Also

About motion. I don’t think necessarily that Leach hated the motion as much as we just didn’t have the right players to make it effective all the time.

Look at Crab’s freshman year. Our biggest play was a two back set with him split wide and an inside receiver with him. Then on the back side of the play we had another receiver split wide. Split Y Flex Mesh or Split Y Flex Y Shallow Cross (God I play NCAA Football too much) where the two plays we ran out of it and Crab was good for 15 yards a catch on them.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Mar 4, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

We both play it to much.

But I’m undefeated and damn proud about it.

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by KWashburn on Mar 4, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

welker was in motion on his sweeps, same with amendola

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Mar 4, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Time factor is important

Last year we ran 988 offensive plays in 13 games (76 plays per game avg).

Assuming you add 5 seconds to look over, get the signal and relay the play (conservative estimate) on say 2/3 of the average (51 plays). You’ve just added almost 3:00 minutes of game time which could take away an entire possession.

Now some of this is play clock time when the game clock is not running (after incompletion for example) which is why I’m doing the math on only 2/3’s of the plays. Regardless of the math, it will clearly take longer to run the play vs. the QB having options and calling another play at the line after seeing the defense alignment.

That said, I also think it takes away from the momentum and flow of the game. And we’ve all seen Tech get on a roll and use that momentum to keep the defesne on their heals. My $0.02

IMWTx

by imisswesttexas on Mar 4, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

What if the look over saves the 5 secs ?

But more specifically, why does a coach do that ? What is the return ? Surely it is not because a qb cannot read and communicate a signal to the team ?

I honestly do not know…so I am at a loss to really comment whether it is a + or -.

It does looks strange…but so did the Dallas Cowboys in their glory days when they did the line up, pop up, before set under Tom Landry.

Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.

by TallMike on Mar 4, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

me either

just thought it would be something to consider. but Beergut had a good point about the number of plays from atm last year.

IMWTx

by imisswesttexas on Mar 5, 2010 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Well done Seth

Really enjoyed this analysis.

Maybe this is too optimistic, but I could see a scenario where our offense improves compared to last season. Time will tell.

But one factor I think we should consider is the other Big 12 teams are kinda in the same boat as all of us. They won’t know what to expect until next year either. They can study Troy game film and other avenues, but they won’t really know what to expect.

So we could potentially use that to our advantage and add some wrinkles to the offense. At a minimum, I think we can use this factor against UT early in the season.

IMWTx

by imisswesttexas on Mar 4, 2010 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

Offense does change

I have always admired Leach’s offensive genius. He developed a system by changing and thinking differently than his opponents, then coaching execution. I hope Tuberville and Brown continue offense changes to match ever innovative defenses. What I hope they don’t do is remove the exciting brand of offensive football Tech plays. The knowledge that no matter the score, Tech can score quickly and get back in the game. Having said that, we can’t keep running the same offense without it eventually being defensed. Nothing is static. So change is inevitable, good coaches do it effectively and mediocre coaches don’t.

"doing what is right is easy…the problem is knowing what is right"

by jdhud on Mar 4, 2010 5:53 PM CST reply actions  

the reason for going to 0 personnel (or an empty set)

is to see how the defense reacts and tries to defend it.

Troy went to 5 wide receivers (empty set) and kept going back to it b/c LSU had trouble covering their WRs. If the defense responds to you going empty by putting a LB on one of your WRs, you keep going empty and throwing to that WR, b/c you have a personnel advantage there, until they stop you. If they don’t stop you, you keep doing it.

You can also go empty b/c you want to help your QB run game. I was breaking down film of Patrick Lewis, and began to review the A&M-Tech game from last season (his first start). I think just about every one of Jerrod Johnson’s scrambles came out of the empty set, and he kept the ball b/c every time we went empty your defense either split the LBs out to cover the WRs, meaning the middle of the defense was deserted, or only one LB was in the middle, which was just an open invitation for an OL to trap that poor sucker, and to run right up the middle behind the OL. It was really a poor job of coaching and scheming by Ruffin McNeill.

As for the so-called ‘prairie dog’ look, A&M went no-huddle for the majority of offensive snaps last year, and I think the offensive skill positions got the call from the sideline, so they looked. I think the offensive line got the call from the QB. The offense ran a total of 1,053 plays last year in 13 games, or 81 offensive plays a game, so I would say making sure you get the calls off in time or making sure you run enough plays isn’t an issue.

by Beergut on Mar 5, 2010 12:55 AM CST reply actions  

fair point

Good reply on the number of plays for ag’s last year. Kinda negates my reason for not doing it.

IMWTx

by imisswesttexas on Mar 5, 2010 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Good stuff...

"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach

by TTUMAR on Mar 5, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

What can brown do for you?

Looking at that video, scoring points and racking up yards. Ill take that any day of the week. Yeah the offense changed, from Leach’s to Brown, and thats about really all that is. I do like seeing the 5 WR sets, just means more of your skill guys on the field, so theres a better chance to get a mismatch on the defense. Im still very intrigued by the whole “pod” set with 3 WR’s around a RB. The spring game cant come soon enough.

We gon rock it to the wheels fall off

by wrench_raider on Mar 5, 2010 1:42 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed...

hey, didn’t leach run a similar Pod formation early on? I think we called it the “ninja” formation?

"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach

by TTUMAR on Mar 5, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

correct

each pod was a tackle and WR split wide from the formation, standing next to each other, with a WR aligned behind them

the center, both guards, QB, and RB were in the middle of the formation

main plays from Ninja were the WR screens and the QB run game

by Beergut on Mar 5, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Protect the Quarterback

I think it is important that we keep a running back in the backfield, especailly with the talent that we have at running back. When you play top defenses, like Texas, OU, and Nebraska, the key is protecting the quarterback. In addition to pass protect, the running back can get the ball in open field, and that is where they get most of their yards. And with the receivers we have this year, Batch should have alot of open field ahead of him. And when you add the element that Brown is going to add a few QB draws, Bath will get to hit some of those defensive backs. He is going to love it. I cain’t wait for the Spring Game and the first College Game Day. Go Red Raiders.

by Btech on Mar 5, 2010 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

Watching that Troy drive was my "Move On" moment

That sure looks like Air Raid to me. I’m pumped for next season. Now let’s fatten up Sheffield & we’ll be all set.

John Hancock

by mbrown603 on Mar 5, 2010 5:50 PM CST reply actions  

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