Tech gets 2011 QB
Good to the QB out of the way, now they can focus on the rest of the offense.
Ed. Seth C: I'm working on a write-up that will probably go to the front page on Monday. Nevertheless, cuss and discuss here.
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This a huge get!
Someone needs to throw this on the big board. This guy is a stud, a steal from UT, and wow….wholly crap we are loaded at QB.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Again...
not a steal from UT… he was only offered a grayshirt there.
According to Rivals.com..
he holds an offer from UT. Again, these guys do it of r a living so forgive me if I use them as a source over perpetually pessimistic bloggers. =)
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Scout specifically says that he got a grayshirt offer...
last I checked, they do it for a living, too.
LOL...it doesn't matter what the offer was.
Different types of offers do not exist. Either UT offered him a scholarship or they didn’t. Whether he red or greyshirts is a decision not finalized until after national signing day. The process is the same regardless. Once again….the process is you get an offer, you choose whether or not to commit to the offering school, and then you sign. They made an offer, we made an offer, theirs was not as good as ours, we win.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
He was offered on the condition that he would grayshirt (which is to say not enroll in the Fall) his freshman year
that is to say he wouldn’t be on the practice field in 2010… just like we’re doing Ben McRoy. Grayshirted players can still Redshirt during their freshman year… keeping them off the playing field for two years rather than one.
Now, tell me, why would you do that to someone you thought could be an impact player? Answer, you wouldn’t. Brewer may be a good athlete, but at 6’0" and 175, he’d never be a starting QB at UT. So, again, saying that we stole him is… unrealistic.
Actually I think we should greyshirt Brewer too...
truth be told. Unless I’m missing something, If Karam gets a year or more, and then Scotty gets the remaining years of his eligibility, i don’t see how this kid sees the field, do you?
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
No...
but at least HC TT is sticking to the Leach plan of recruiting a QB every year. Nice to see that hasn’t changed.
Leong was a grayshirt and I think that a grayshirt would have worked the same way as a redshirt year. No matter what, a player has 5 years of eligibility (unless there are other circumstances). The problem with Brewer at UT was that they signed 2 QB’s in the 2010 class (Connor Wood and Case McCoy) and signed a QB for the 2011 class (someone from Belton I think). The QB position was really crowded at UT (haven’t even mentioned that it appears that Gilbert will be starting for the next 3 years).
In any event, if Brewer or McRoy had grayshirted, it would have counted as a redshirt, but it would not have counted as part of the 2011 recruiting class, but rather the 2012 class (I think).
Go Raiders . . .
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Indeed
They have a lot of people on the bench, but are very young and inexperienced.
The question about this qb being wanted or not wanted is going to be more answered for me if the whorns continue to recruit a qb this year.
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
I didn't realize they had taken that many QBs...
and thanks for the good info on grayshirting.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Correct me if I'm wrong...
but the way I understand grayshirts, the player doesn’t practice with the team (or receive a scholarship) during the Fall of their first year on campus. Often, athletes won’t even enroll until the spring. Therefore, eligibility is not affected and the athlete has five years of eligibility beginning with the spring semester following their graduation from hs.
I may be completely off
(I’m going off of memory here) but I thought that the student-athlete showed up on campus (often not enrolling until the spring, but some show up in the fall) and the main purpose wasn’t to defer eligibility (the clock starts running once the student-athlete starts college) but for the scholarship to count towards the next recruiting class (i.e. Ben McRoy might not have had a spot this year, but perhaps due to some players not qualifying, he’ll be here in the fall).
Go Raiders . . .
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Here is a definition
http://en.allexperts.com/q/College-Football-2792/Definition-Gray-Shirt.htm
Grayshirt is another new term and is applied to the prospect that signs a letter of intent in February, but doesn’t report in the fall with his teammates. He delays entry to college until midyear, i.e. January. That NCAA five-year clock doesn’t start ticking until the player enrolls as a full time student, so gray-shirting is really a delayed version of red-shirting. For Example, Texas Tech, signed 34 players in February 2006, but NCAA rules prevent them from enrolling more than 25 to start the fall. Some of those nine other players gray-shirted during the 2006 fall season. They cannot enroll in college as full time students, can’t receive their scholarship, nor practice. It is like getting an extra year of practice, because most of these players don’t see the game field until two years later and they have the advantage of going through an extra spring practice.
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
Right...
That’s the definition that I was using to build my case. The way I read it, the player’s eligibility runs out six years after he leaves HS, not five years.
Still doesn’t seem to me that you’d want to grayshirt someone who was going to be a real gamer.
If the logic does not follow
likely something about the assumption is false.
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
Can you read?
It is like getting an extra year of practice, because most of these players don’t see the game field until two years later and they have the advantage of going through an extra spring practice.
For crying out loud! This is from your own quotation! What part of “extra year” of practice don’t you understand?
well...
I’d say we “stole” him, if only because his daddy (and I think granddaddy) were both Longhorn players. Yeah, maybe he wasn’t gonna be their starter anytime soon, but having a kid pick our school over “legacy” tracking at UT is a good thing. But yeah, he was offered a grayshirt. According to the Austin paper he was also their current QB’s backup in high school.
Yep, both have now won State Championships.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
he was not their current qb back up
he was back up to gilbert, 2 yrs ago…he won the state championship
Via John Mackovic of The Desert Sun:
"Grey shirt is a term used to designate an incoming freshman who waits until the second semester to enroll rather than the fall. College athletes are allowed a five year calendar to play four seasons. The calendar begins once one is enrolled. By waiting until the spring to start college, a player will be playing his last season in the sixth year after high school rather than the fifth. "
Nothing in that definition about the greyshirting being anything but a legitimate way to extend eligibility to a time where there is less competition. If UT says “we are stacked at QB, but we want you so lets delay your entry”, most kids are jumping at that very reasonable and legitimate offer. Luckily Tech made a more enticing offer.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
I add:
Saying UT’s desire to have Brewer Greyshirt is no different than our own 2010 signee Ben Mcroy. Whether you have a grey, red, or no shirt…..you receive an offer, you commit, and then you sign. In this case Brewer intends to follow this process with Tech as oppose to UT. If that isn’t good news…..I’m putting you on suicide watch.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
He chose Tech over...
… the chance to greyshirt at UT, or the chance for a real scholarship at Auburn, Tulsa, Rice, or Baylor…
OU, OSU, and A&M did not offer.
So the offer scholarship we offered to McRoy was not a real offer?
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
If we tell a kid our offer includes a plan to red shirt him.....
like we do to most skilled players we recruit………does that too mean these are not “real” offers?
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
The fact that UT....
discussed their plan for him if he commits is no different than he discussions we have with our players, he simply chose a different plan.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Either way....it beats the offer we just
Made Adam James. He is going to redskirt 2010.
" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me
by oldschoolraider on Mar 6, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
Nope....redSKIRT
" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me
by oldschoolraider on Mar 7, 2010 12:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dual Threat
I think this will be a trend with the new offense.
by TTUAlum on Mar 5, 2010 6:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's not every day...
that will get a kid who was offered by Texas.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Did anybody else notice that this link says AssHOL?
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Why is that?
Of all the combinations of letters, numbers, and symbols that’s what showed up….
Something doesn’t quite smell right.
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Pulled pork sandwhich.
" Answers -- Become Resources."
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*get
I just noticed I left out the word get in the description. My first fan shot and I fumbled.
by TTUAlum on Mar 5, 2010 6:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This guy already looks like a Red Raider!
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
And a little like Sticks?
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Its KK....even down to the number....
" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me
by oldschoolraider on Mar 6, 2010 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
Great Catch TTUAlum !
And a tip of the hat to Neal Brown for getting his man. Brewer is a legacy player for UT, grandfather and father both played there.
The horns will always be able to maintain they did not want him all that badly, they offered gray shirt….
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
And we all know is a bunch of bs
Texas has a sophmore starting next year, gray shirting Brewer would be the idea option for Texas.
by TTUAlum on Mar 5, 2010 6:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
family gatherings will be awkward..
Birthdays and Christmas might be a little on the light side from dad and gramps. Your new family in Lubbock will appreciate you. 4,450 yards and 43 TDs, that is insane!!! I feel better now in case MLB comes knocking on Scotty Youngs door.
"I thought happiness was Lubbock, Texas in my rearview mirror" Mac Davis
“The horns will always be able to maintain they did not want him all that badly, they offered gray shirt….”
No, we won’t.
Michael Brewer is a Texas legacy. If his best chance to play and succeed is at Tech, everyone wishes him the best of luck.
Robert Brewer was a walk-on at Texas (if my memory is correct) and went on to not only earn the starting QB job, but ended up as a Cotton Bowl MVP. If his son has even half the determination his dad did, you will have a great quarterback.
just goes to show
that not all UT fans are bad.
We gon rock it to the wheels fall off
by wrench_raider on Mar 9, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
AMAZING!
This started with Leach and has passed on the Tuberville & Brown. With another year of school to go, he could easily “grow” into quite the specimen of a QB. He led Lake Travis to a state title last year and is poised to do so again this coming year, after Garrett Gilbert di so for two previous years. I have seen film highlights on the Austin news and he is a legitimate top-flight QB on par with Graham Harrell, Gilbert and Scotty Young. The quarterback mill just keeps rolling. With the talent available, there will be little decline should a starter have to leave the game of miss some games. The Raiders have set themselves up with huge talent at that position that will cover six to seven years. LONG LIVE THE MATADOR! WRECK ’EM TECH!
TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.
WATCH THE FREAKING VIDEO
He looks like freaking Colt McCoy!
He throws amazingly well on the run
His improvisational skills are incredible! Look at how quickly he changes from running to throwing. The play at 9:07 speaks for itself.
Extremely accurate.
Shows a live arm, he can get the ball anywhere on the field. Not afraid to hit it deep.
There is only one issue. His mechanics are a little tebow-like. Granted, his release is much MUCH quicker than his but he needs to learn better mechanics.
This dude is legit.
If he looks like Colt McCoy....
lets hope he has a Jordan Shipley to throw it to. Colt never impressed me much at all……. ever.
Come-on man!
Fine, then he looks like a stronger armed, taller Todd Reesing. Is that good enough for you?
Not once?
Not in the 3-1 record against Tech?
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
I was impressed by his leadership abilities...
but I still say that if you take away Jordan Shipley, McCoy was a mediocre QB and Texas was probably no where near as good the past couple years.
Yeah, but we'll be running I-formation with double TE's in a couple of years...
so an option qb might come in handy. ;)
I love it when
we screw the evil empire.
"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach
I'm not sure this was a screwing
Hard to say when UT didn’t offer him a scholarship.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
And for those of you without a subscription, here's some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEbvBrHIX3s – highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwGQLEkZwL8&feature=related – Lake Travis Highlights
Go Raiders . . .
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1:38 Holy Rocket Launcher!
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I like the kid.....appears to not have the measurables
so he’s a great fit here. By the time he’s up and running, CTT should have us in a power running setup where the zone read will be our bread and butter…..so he should be a perfect fit (relax, just kidding….my pom pons are up).
" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me
STUD
I watched this kid in a couple of games this year and he is an absolute stud. I’m pumped
by zcole04 on Mar 6, 2010 8:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Looking at the CG, he won't have to change uniforms
Thought I was watching Tech for an instant. Now I know why he selected Tech, he liked the cool threads. He is mobile, tough, and can hit the seam. I’m impressed, with another year to hone his skills, should be ready to follow Young or compete with him for qb.
"doing what is right is easy…the problem is knowing what is right"
Sick
Dude is a playmaker. In the first video at 9:07 is just beast. He throws extremely well on the run. He’s not afraid to throw the deep ball, which is good. Kid is very accurate. And he chose us over UT? Lake Travis is a pipeline school the whorns, and this kid chose us over them, awesome. :)
We gon rock it to the wheels fall off
for the*
We gon rock it to the wheels fall off
by wrench_raider on Mar 6, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
I’m glad we stole this recruit from UT!
But I hope this is the last QB offer we give this season. Our team has enough QB’s now. Let’s go after some studs on the defensive end of the ball.
This recruiting class is likely one for the offense, it will be small
compared to last, which was heavy on defense.
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
I thinK I read where we will only have room for something like 13 guys in the next class. Good way to start it with this kid.
by Tech92 on Mar 6, 2010 5:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We need #88....
- seems to be his favorite target and he is tall and catch. Brewer can throw the seam route(which I love) and the fade!!!!!! I also liked the motion and the pistol lool from their Offense…I think TTech will use some of this. I also like it that he can run….the more options the tougher it is on the D!!!! Great steal from the teasips!!! Wreck’Em Tech
Please put your pants back on...
" I crammed 4 years of Tech into 5"- me
by oldschoolraider on Mar 7, 2010 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is exactly why I don't wear leather pants.......
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
I was refering to your pants.
I promise I won’t tell anybody that Adam has seen you in leather pants. That would make the Red and Black game kinda akward for everybody that is attending.
This conversation is getting a little weird and about to head south, I encourage such acts…..
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
Only leather I even own is in my boots, belt, and baseball glove...
But I am willing to bet you have worn your share of leather pants. Kinda funny how you talk about Adam James and say anything about “head south”. But yeah… thats where this conversation is going. I condone it as well.
Well played.
They are chaps for really cold riding weather……..seriously.
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
KW, stop digging
You are more and more sounding like one of those Wyoming cowboys….
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
Motorcycle riding weather.
Ha!
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Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
Yeah, he rode b****...
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Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
I just got this very disturbing image of you and adam james on a bike.
Him straddling behind you holding you around the waist, and you with a shit eating grin on your face.
He's a woman as far as I'm concerned.
Put him/her in a skirt and it’s fair game.
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
Dude, appreciate your youth
getting old sucks. Hemroids and all. Excessive drinking and nicotine are one of the known causes among other things. Not that it would stop me.
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Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Oh I do.
Not looking forward to all of that nonsense. I have decided that im cutting way back on dip though, and plan on quitting once im out of school….. good plan at least.
On a side note,
I think I changed my signature 3 times this evening. Not bored, not bored at all.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Rec'n this one for you to remember.
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Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
That's a bit embarassing
It’s not neccesarily hard, just hard to keep focused and do it. Then again, im not drunk at all anymore, just tired. Guessing they have you on nights again btw?
Oh yeah, rotating DuPont shift.
It’s a good thing but it messes with your sleep schedule. On a high note, I only work about 15 days a month. In that time frame, I always have 7 days off in a row. I ride my motorcycle entirely too much.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
KWashburn, you caught my attention with the DuPont comment
I was retired from DuPont in 01, which location are you working ?
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
I don't work for DuPont
but we use their shift rotation. I work for Plains Pipeline.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Good for You !!
You probably enjoy PP more than you would DuPont !
I have seen so many different shift rotations in DuPont, I had to be confused that another entity would call theirs the DuPont shift.
Whatever it is, sounds like you have deal that you like, that is what it is all about.
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
None of your business!
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
I have a different perspective about TTU/UT and recruiting Brewer.
We did not steal anything or anyone from the whorns…their offer was not good enough.
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
Not to mention...
You can’t really say we stole or took Brewer from UT b/c NO ONE has signed yet. Certainly I hope he honors his committment. But how many times did we see people change their mind prior to signing day???
Nothing is a done deal until they enroll and are on campus!!
IMWTx
by imisswesttexas on Mar 9, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Also, not to mention...
see the comment by “burntorange” above… Brewer NOT OFFERED by UT
Well, indeed, no one is signed yet.
That is not possible until next February. I took the context as being the commit…that is all anyone can do at this point.
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
true
My point was that we really shouldn’t get all riled up over any recruit. Seems to be trendy that the more stars next to their name, the less a verbal committment means. So using that rationale, I hope Brewer is a 1 star b/c I really want him to sign with Tech. Really seems like a good kid.
IMWTx
by imisswesttexas on Mar 10, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks, Seth
The video is great. As said above, Brewer is quite a play maker, capable of scrambling if he has to and throwing on the run appears to be an easy thing for him.Tech has some great depth at QB so I hope he can be patient and learn the offense to perfection until his number is called. He should be a monster by then. I think Tech’s future just continues to brighten as the recruiting talent level keeps moving upward. Brewer is very poised and makes quick decisions. I see nothing wrong with his throws as they are perfect almost all of the time. I can’t wait to see how he progresses this year. His commit makes the rest of Tech’s recruiting for next year easy by eliminating a major position from the equation. WELCOME TO TEXAS TECH, MR. BREWER!
TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.
TECH on Roll
Seth, I am still pretty new to the stie, but I can’t thank you enough for all of your hard work and maintenance on DTN. I watched Brewer in a state playoff game in San Antonio and thought that there was no way this kid would ever consider TECH. He is a lot like Sticks, but he’s faster and is deadly accurate. Remember, this kid is only a junior. Another year in the weight room, and there is no telling what this kid can do. I have always wonder what the TECH offense could do with a QB who could run the ball. There is a reason Leach went 10 years without an injury to his QB’s. They had to stay in the pocket. Can you imagine how many extra possessions this team will have when the QB can run the ball five or six times a game. And this guy can make space for himslef, buy some time, and find the open receiver. Then if Tubs defense can make two extra stops a game, Big 12 Championship is not out of the picture. Go back to the Nebraska game. Look what Sticks did to them. Colt McCoy could not figure out the Nebraska defesne. I think we are looking at a really good run here. Again, thanks Setch, and Go Red Raiders. I cannot wait until College Game Day.
Leach's qb's did not get injured
because he would not disclose injuries…there were plenty…but, indeed, not because they ran the ball.
Sometimes a river boat can out run a pirate ship.
All of us seem ready for the football season
And when we see this type of a commitment we all tend to get even more hyped. The quality of the last three quarterbacks signed on by, or verbally committed to, Tech is a whole lot better than most years previous to this. Tech has signed top quarterbacks before, but because of the type of offense Tech now runs there is much more expected from them. I like a quarterback with some mobility. He can then give the opposing defenses much more to be concerned with when preparing to play the Red Raiders. What is real nice about Brewer is his ability to escape tackles and make plays for positive yards. All these qualities are similar to what Sticks, Karem and Young bring to the table. Doege once had similar traits, but we have not been able to witness that, yet. Anyway, when Potts and Sheffield complete their eligibility, the quarterback position will be well taken care of, and our opponents are going to have many sleepless nights trying to figure out how to defend Tech. Sweeeet!
TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.
Based on the first couple sentences, this is for the newer guys.
We here at DTN tend to get EXTREMELY excited and feisty during football season. There will be arguments about what players should do what, and what the coaches need to do. But, at the end of the day we are all still friends and support our team no matter what actually happens. So new guys, dont be surprised when you see more and more bickering as season draws nearer. It’s all good.
Couldn't help myself.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
Something about a sock comes to mind...
"do routine things routinely"
by centexraider on Mar 7, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
No way
Leach was a horrible recruiter. Remember?
"I swear, I'm gonna stab you with a fork."
-Gerald Myers or Kent Hance
by San Antonio Red Raider on Mar 9, 2010 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
That is ridiculous...
Just because he recruited Adam James, who subsequently took down the whole coaching staff, and upended DTN, doesn’t mean he was bad recruiter……What a Leach hater, your better than that. =)
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
terrible fundraiser too
and can’t dance worth a crap. I heard he never really roller bladed either. It was all made up.
"I swear, I'm gonna stab you with a fork."
-Gerald Myers or Kent Hance
by San Antonio Red Raider on Mar 9, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Now your just being hurtful...
just mean spirited.
"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach
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