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Jeffers' Big Day:  LAJ's Don Williams has a full recap from yesterdays scrimmage and the it appears that the offense was pretty good (not great, but pretty good).  RB Harrison Jeffers had 9 carries for 139 yards and 2 touchdowns and 4 receptions for 51 yards.  Not a bad day, except for the fact that if Jeffers had this sort of day, the defense may not have looked very good and Tuberville and Willis commented on the fact that there were too many missed tackles. Before getting to Williams article and some quotes, I wanted to take a minute and look at some statistics, in particular the quarterbacks:

Seth Doege:  24-46 : 1 INT : 332 Yards : 5 TD :  That's 7.2 yards per attempt (not bad) and a 56% completion rate, which needs to be better.  You love the 5 touchdowns, but the scrimmage was apparently set up to give the offense some scoring opportunities so take all of the touchdowns with a bit of a grain of salt.
Jacob Karam:  19-34 : 0 INT : 314 Yards : 5 TD :  Karam had 9.2 yards per attempt which is very good for this offense, and demonstrates that he's maybe not taking all of the easy stuff underneath, but looking a bit down field.  A 55% completion rate isn't much worse that Doege's and maybe Brown wanted his quarterbacks to throw the ball deep, especially if the cornerbacks were pressing (which they apparently were).
Running vs. Passing:  The offense ran the ball 37 times and passed the ball 80 times for a 117 play scrimmage.  For those of you keeping score at home, that's a 31% running rate.  The offense had 262 yards on the ground and 646 yards through the air for a total of 908 yards which works out to about 7.7 yards per play offensively.
Alexander Torres:  8 receptions : 110 Yards : 4 TD : Pretty good day for Torres who has touchdown receptions of 12, 11, 19 and 19 yards.

From the Williams article, here's head coach Tommy Tuberville on his two quarterbacks:

"It’s obvious Doege had a pretty good day throwing the ball deep down the field,’’ Tech coach Tommy Tuberville said. "Receivers caught the ball. We didn’t tackle very well on defense. That was the obvious observations, but it was a good scrimmage. Guys looked like we had a lot more concentration and ran to the ball better on defense.’’

And defensive coordinator James Willis again says the defense didn't make mistakes, but needs to finish plays:

"There wasn’t many mental errors, not a lot at all,’’ Willis said. "But to me, the biggest thing was tackling and finishing tackles. A lot of times we don’t go full speed tackling in practice, but what you have to do is make sure you get your body in position to make the plays, and sometimes we don’t.’’

Doege said that the corners pressed and the quarterbacks took shots down the field:

"It’s what the defense gives you,’’ Doege said, "and the defense pressed today, so we took a lot of shots down field and it worked for us.’’

I have a tendency to think that this effort was intentional on both sides of the ball, pressing the quarterbacks to get the ball down the field and testing the cornerbacks all at the same time.  As Wills says in Williams' article, it's better than they figure this out now.

Tuberville was also very complimentary to the day Torres had:

"He plays the ball so well in the air,’’ Tuberville said. "For a quarterback, you know if you’re throwing it to him, you just kind of hang it up to his outside shoulder and he can adjust to it. Having hands is one thing, but being able to adjust to the football the way he does is amazing.’’

And last, but certainly not least, Tuberville liked the way Jeffers ran today:

"Heck, Jeffers ran the ball hard again,’’ Tuberville said. "I think he really learned from that first scrimmage how to play and the speed of the game.’’

Notes, Notes and More Notes:  LAJ's Don Williams writes that the defense wasn't all bad, especially near the goal line:

The ball was placed at the offense’s 3-yard line to begin six consecutive series. The defense got three-and-outs in four of the first five possessions before allowing a nine-play, 97-yard drive for a touchdown. That drive also could have been a three-and-out except a defensive holding penalty wiped out an incomplete pass on third down from the offense’s 10.

During the defense’s hot stretch, Defensive tackles Colby Whitlock and Britton Barbee got penetration that led to tackles behind the line for Bront Bird and Donald Langley. Defensive end Kerry Hyder had a quarterback hurry and a tackle for loss, and outside linebacker Aundrey Barr tipped a pass that safety Brett Dewhurst nearly intercepted.

. . . Williams talks about a new play (and I think that TTUMAR actually broke this down before) where a receiver and/or running back goes in motion and under Leach, the quarterback would hand the ball off (possibly resulting in a fumble) and would generally only use one or two players but under offensive coordinator Neal Brown, it's a shovel pass (possibly resulting in an incompletion) and will use multiple players . . . OC Brown wants WR Lyle Leong to step it up:

"Lyle Leong wasn’t very good early in the week, to be honest,’’ Brown said. "He’s done some things in practice that we’re not going to stand for, and we’ve played (Eric) Ward in front of him some, and I thought he bounced back and had some really good plays today.’’

Video after the jump.

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Video:  Wreck Em TV's Travis Cram with video of the scrimmage with thoughts from Tuberville, OC Brown (with some compliments about IR Cornelius Douglas) QB Seth Doege, RB Harrison Jeffers, DC Willis and LB Brian Duncan:

 

 

And Fox34 with a practice report:

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probably dropped passes.

"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach

by Raider1992 on Apr 11, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three Thoughts

1. News Flash! Lyle Leong is mediocre and Eric Ward should start.

2. Glad to see that Torres is still impressing coaches. He’s got alot of heart.

3. Do we have the speed/size at corner to play press? No. There’s a reason Ruff always lined them up in off coverage. Scheme is dictated by personnel.

4. Attaboy Jeffers! I hope he earned those stats and they weren’t given away by the D… I’d like to see him succeed.

by battledome on Apr 11, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

And a similar play at Lincoln, both of which plays were huge in scoring drives.

I also recall a play againt UT in ’08 – the play where Harrell dropped back 20 yards before hitting Leong for a first down to keep a scoring drive alive.

"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James

by TechFirst on Apr 11, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big Deal...

Michigan State was practically a JV team last year.

by battledome on Apr 11, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm confused...

are you implying Leong can’t jump as high against better competition? This is pure athleticism, regardless the opponent.

"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach

by TTUMAR on Apr 11, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm saying that he had...

2 catches for 11 yards at Houston
3 for 46 at Nebraska
2 for 12 at O$U
2 for 15 vs A&M
2 for 25 vs OU

Oh yeah… he’s really elite… no one could put up those kinds of numbers…

Vertical leaping is for the track team. I want my receivers to be able to get open.

by battledome on Apr 11, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't he a back up last year to Edward Britton?

"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach

by TTUMAR on Apr 11, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so...

Then again… I wonder why he could have possibly been a second stringer…

by battledome on Apr 11, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I didn't know better

I’d say you were Beergut in disguise

"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James

by TechFirst on Apr 12, 2010 5:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

You’ve said that there probably isn’t an elite receiver on this team, and there wasn’t one last year. I would agree with that. My definition of elite is Michael Crabtree and right now, the only other player that’s comparable to the Crabtree effect was Welker, but Crabtree was on his own. This offense is predicated on not having elite talent, but still producing offensive results, with a senior quarterback and an offensive line that gave up one sack a game, to go with Crabtree, you saw the perfect storm. To expect the same results last year was really unrealistic. New QB, 3 new starters along an offensive line and replacing a 2 time All-American at receiver. Not exactly easy.

But to get to your point, I don’t think that Leach or Brown necessarily need an elite receiver, although if it happens, then I’m all for it. Leach didn’t have success because he always had elite talent, that’s not the case, but he did have success because of the system he ran.

And please show me how you think the entire decade of Texas Tech receivers is better than this group, which may be true as I haven’t done the analysis, but again, it’s easy to make the claim without backing it up.

What I’d love to see is your definition of elite, good, mediocre or however you define receivers.

You’ve made the claims that the offense isn’t going to be the same and I’ve always responded that yes, that is true, it won’t be the same because Leach won’t be calling plays and coaching up the offense. You’ve never responded to that. Quite simply, it’s a claim that’s easy to say and claim that spread offense will be dramatically different, but thus far, the evidence suggests that the team will run a little more, but we really don’t know if that equates to continued success. We’ll just have to wait. (And as an aside, to make the claim that because Leong was behind Britton, he must be mediocre, however, Leach also thought that Crabtree needed to redshirt his first year, which means that he was beyond 2nd string.)

You’ve also made the claim that Jacob Karam was recruited by Leach as a receiver, but you’ve never responded to my request for a link. Again, if it’s a subscription based service, then that’s where I’ve missed it, but I have never read where Leach ever intended for Karam, a 4-star under Rivals and 3-star under Scout, to be anything other than a quarterback.

Somtimes I think your intent is to throw out comment-grenades . . . pull the pin, roll it out, and then walk away.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Apr 12, 2010 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Thanks,Seth. I too have noticed battledome’s propensity to eschew any and every post, regardless of content. It is very disconcerting, and his replies to anything anyone writes, especially my own, is not desired, much less warrented. Even beergut has better responses, and he is aggie all the way. Just an observation of something (someone) that has really become irritating to us all.

TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.

by TTpilk645 on Apr 12, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're misusing the word "eschew"... dictionary much?

If you don’t want me to reply… uh… I dunno… maybe don’t post comments on a public forum! Otherwise, you’re just going to have to learn to live with people disagreeing with you.

by battledome on Apr 12, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The point is

That we try to treat each other a certain way here, and you are counter to that. You fling poo until someone calls you on it and you move to someone else when you are called on it.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Apr 12, 2010 2:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

show me where I've been flinging poo...

I’m critical of the team… but have never been willfully rude to another user… at least without being provoked

by battledome on Apr 12, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dictionary much?

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Apr 12, 2010 9:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gesundheit

When I eschew, I tend to do it 4 to 6 times in a row. People get sick of saying Bless You after the first two or three.

John Hancock

by mbrown603 on Apr 12, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah...

and there’s a big difference between trolling and calling things like they are… 3 of the 4 points that I started this thread with were positive…

by battledome on Apr 12, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

The point is...

most people here are turned off by your contentious attitude and constant belligerence.

We get it, you’re not happy with the state of TTU football right now. That doesn’t mean you have to try your damnedest to escalate everything to an arguement anytime someone says something you don’t like around here.

We’re all (mostly) Tech fans here. We all want the best for the program. There’s no need in being an ass to your fellow fan while here.

Sorry Seth if any rules were broken here but it needed to be said.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Apr 12, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry if your feelings got hurt...

but I still don’t see anything worth getting bent out of shape about in any of my comments.

Again, 3/4 of my initial comments were positive. If you want to focus on the 1/4, I guess that’s your prerogative.

by battledome on Apr 12, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not hurting my feelings

but it’s obvious that there are people here who are tired of your spiel.

3/4? 1/4? What? I’m not talking about JUST this thread. I’m talking about your overall tone across everything you post here. You are the epitome of negativity here at DTN. Congrats on going 3 for 4 in this thread. Maybe by the time football season rolls around you’ll lose a little more of that sour taste.

As far as that 1/4 goes, there’s a difference in telling people how it is and going out of your way to force your opinion down everyone’s throat. ANYtime ANYone says ANYthing about the receiving corps you’re always there with the “ZOMG ALL THE RECEIVERS SUCK EXCEPT ERIC WARD!!!!!” spiel. We get it, you don’t like any of them except Ward. But, if you’re going to make that claim, BACK IT UP. Don’t say that the receiving corps as a whole sucked (mediocre…whatever) then run the other way when people tell you to state why you think that.

With that said, I’m done talking about this. Anything else would just bring more attention then it’s worth.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Apr 12, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay... I get it...

No negativity allowed here on DTN. Every offseason, talk like the 2 and 3 star recruits that we have are the second coming of Jerry Rice and Joe Montana. Then when the season rolls around try not to be surprised when we lose to A&M and O$U. Got it… sorry…

by battledome on Apr 12, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay one more...

To clarify, I don’t care what your outlook/opinion is on the team. We’re all allowed to have an opinion here, and you’re no different.

Be negative all you want, but don’t act like people that have a different opinion than you are ignorant. There are many others than you that have a bleak outlook on the team. and no one has a problem at all with them.

The constant “all the receivers suck except Ward” is annoying to read day after day after day. You act as if anyone that says any different is completely ignorant and couldn’t read it the first 27 times you typed it (why else would you say the same thing verbatim to the same people daily?). However, you still fail to justify why you think this is so.

If you’re going to continue saying this receiving corps is bad then atleast back up what you say with stats. Otherwise you look like a troll who’s just spouting things off to get a reaction.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Apr 12, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are not near good enough to play in the Big12, we have got a lot of work to do said by Coach Tuberville in both videos and the expression on his face leaves me hoping for lots and lots of improvement between now and SMU…Lots !

women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans

by TallMike on Apr 11, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny

Tuberville said
“We are not near good enough to play in the Big12.”
Did we NOT play in the Big-12 last year and 9 many years before that? This is a statement from a coach who still does not believe in his personnel. I know Tech has the talent. A team does not win 8, 9 or ten games, without talent, in the Big-12. The staff has moved some people around and installed some new plays, as well as a new direction on defense. Yea, they are raw, but that should be expected. He needs to start trusting his players and actually SEE what they can do. Get rid of that smugness and stiff shirt and loosen up a little. I am encouraged by the fact Tech has many returning players from a pretty successful season that bordered on being great. Despite Tubs’ blurred vision, this team is going to respond and do very well. As for concerns about Leong, maybe he isn’t straight-laced enough for Tubs, but we are all aware of what he can really accomplish. Just get the ball to him. At any rate, I feel the team is about where anyone would hope it would be in a transition year. By September, it will be more than ready for the Big-12.

TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.

by TTpilk645 on Apr 11, 2010 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you might be reading too much into this my friend..

This is the same language being used in Lincoln, NE right now by Bo Pelini. Apparently Bo has hated every practice Nebraska has had up to this point and they are just stinking to high heaven. Now we know that is not true, and Bo is using coach speak to keep his kids heads on the ground where they should be. Under promise and over perform. Tubs is doing the same here. Leach was actually prone to the same understated analysis as well. Let’s hope it does what it is designed to do, and motivates these kids to continue to improve.

"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach

by TTUMAR on Apr 11, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry about that

I just feel these players are on the verge this year, regardless of whom the coach is, of having as good or better year as Tech had in ‘08. Yeah. The coach is doin’ his thing, as do all coaches, but I really hope he understands the Raiders are maybe not as bad or as untalented as he and others from the SEC believe, therefore expecting certain things that aren’t there in the same form he may be used to seeing…….I hope that comes across right. I know he is a good coach, but I also know we have some good players. Together, good things will happen.

TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.

by TTpilk645 on Apr 11, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe the problem is that...

Tubs isn’t good enough to coach Tech’s talent to play in the Big XII

by battledome on Apr 11, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to LondonRaider....

he is just as much of an elite coach as Leach, with the hardware to prove it. But like I always say, don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.

"We have a running game at Tech......sometimes we throw short passes." -Mike Leach

by TTUMAR on Apr 11, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he can bring the next Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams to Tech...

then, yeah, we’ll be just fine. ‘Til then, he’s got to coach a bunch of 2 and 3 stars. Leach won with them. Can he? Guess we’ll find out.

by battledome on Apr 11, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your eternal optimism amazes me everyday.

" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Apr 12, 2010 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

elsewhere...

Gary Patterson said TCU is a 6-6 team right now. Last year’s Red Raiders were 8-4, last year’s TCU was in the BCS. Coach speak in the pre-Season is coach speak in the pre-Season. I’m HAPPY if our coaches are not satisfied with our performance. There is ALWAYS room to improve, especially right now when we haven’t won anything yet.

by HeeroTX on Apr 12, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree 100 percent

The coaches don’t believe that the Tech players are untalented or cannot compete; quite the contrary. It is the fact that after 1 more week the team has several months of individualized work until August and each player needs to understand that they are nowhere near where they need to be to reach their full potential, both individually and as a team.

It would serve no purpose in April for Tubs or the other coaches to tell the players or fans that the team looks great, everything is set, and that he can’t wait untl September. Way too much work to do between now and then. These players – like all players – need to know there is much work to be done by them when the coaches won’t be with them. It’s all that Tubs is doing. Leach did exactly the same thing.

by jeffinhouston on Apr 11, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tuberville knows the talent on this team, he has spoken to having good talent repeatedly. That blurb given to a handfull of reporters following a 3rd scrimmage is not about talent. It is not about coaches, it is not about players, it is about the progress they have made to date with all the stuff that has been loaded into the player’s minds…they have spoken to that repeadedly also throught the Spring work…“their heads are spinning,” “our heads are spinning,” there has been a ton of new through out this Spring. They do not have it to the level that the HC thinks is necessary to be ready to play Big12 football yet…well isn’t that kind of expected…I thought about what I wrote and believe I showed too much concern with my words. Gosh, I would love for him to come off the field and say “where the heck is Alabama, Texas, Notre Dame, USC, etc.” but he gave a different thought…and perhaps as TTUMAR indicated, it could be coach speak a la BoPo…

He was not belittling the players or the coaches.

women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans

by TallMike on Apr 11, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess the one thing we can’t really simulate in a scrimmage is genuine pressure on the QB. As we have noted previously this may be one of the reasons Potts won the starting job last year. I am impressed by the young guns and believe this is a great opportunity for them to get quality reps. I like the critical but constructive attitude of the defensive coaches and players. Alabama’s success last year was largely due to their ability to dominate on D and I believe Willis is bringing that approach to the Hub city. The playing field in the Big 12 seems relatively even from top to bottom so we may have to win a few squeekers along the way. I love gaudy stats just as much as the next guy but a win is a win.

I hope you all are having good weekends. Take care.

"Life's a garden, dig it."

by Remington870 on Apr 11, 2010 1:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm excited.

My only concern is that the D makes tackles. I thought it was just coach speak until I saw Duncan say it. We look salty otherwise.

by RdrPwr on Apr 11, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

regarding PDF

can’t you type something in Word now, and save it as a .pdf file?

by Beergut on Apr 11, 2010 5:33 PM CDT reply actions  

If so, Word can open the HTML page Seth already created

I just tested it in Word 2007 with an old fantasy football website I had on my hard drive. The resulting PDF looks like the web page & the even the hyperlinks work. In Word open the webpage you want to publish in PDF format, select “Save As – PDF or XPS”. Name the file with a ,pdf extension (or let Word handle that).

John Hancock

by mbrown603 on Apr 11, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

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