Red Raider Hoops :: Looking to 2010 and Beyond

It's always incredibly popular to write basketball posts in the middle of the summer, but it should be noted that I probably won't write many more basketball posts until later in the fall. In any event, I had a few thoughts rolling around in my head, and although I agree with the majority of you, the 2010-2011 season is the season where Pat Knight is going to either keep his job or the very real possibility of Texas Tech looking for another basketball coach.
Why Is 2010 So Important? This is pretty simple, and although it may be a tad bit unfair, this is the life of a coach. First, I've never read a quote from PK where he doesn't understand that he's under pressure to win to keep his job. He almost always mentions that his job is to win games and he understands that if he doesn't do so then he's not going to have a job for very long. PK may be a lot of things, but I don't think he's hiding his head in the sand and he too knows that if you win, he'll stick around and if he doesn't, then he won't. I hate to give kudos to a guy that readily admits the reality of his situation, but I do appreciate the no-nonsense attitude that PK has in regards to his future employment.
The biggest reason that 2010 is so important is that the 2010-2011 version of Texas Tech will return 78% of minutes played, 78% of their scoring, 77% of their rebounding and 79% of their assists from 2009-2010. Quite simply, sans PF Darko Cohadarevic and SG Nick Okorie, essentially the entire team returns that finished 9th in the Big 12 Conference in 2010.
Herein lies the rub, which is that the same team essentially returns that finished in the latter half of the Big 12 Conference. Attrition is a part of every program more than a handful of other Big 12 teams, but Texas Tech has experienced very little, if any attrition. That's typically a good thing. I'm usually incredibly optimistic, and in this case, I do think that there's something to be said for a team that's played together for at the very least a full year, and for a handful of the to-be-seniors, almost three years, but this team must improve. If this team is going to hang it's hat on the thought that with so much returning talent and the fact that this group has played together for such a long time, that this team should be in the top half of the conference next year.
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The downside is, of course, the fact that this squad has six scholarship to-be-seniors on this team and in the 2011-2012 season, you can expect quite a bit of overhaul. More on the 2011-2012 season a bit later.
For the 2010-2011 season, the only reasonable goal for PK and the entire team is to make the field of 68. Although the progress has been slow, there has been progress with this team and despite the high expectations before conference play, last year's team fizzled after a terrific start. The fact that the team played well in the NIT is a small consolation prize, but perhaps this is the carrot that the team needed to motivate them to improve next year. Nevertheless, I have no doubt that this is a make-or-break season for PK and I'm guessing that he's fully aware of the implications that this season holds. I truly believe that if PK and this version of the Texas Tech basketball team makes the field of 68, he stays around at least for a few more years. If he can't get it done with this group then I'm not confident that PK can get it done. It would be silly to try to diagnose the problems at this point (especially since we're talking about something that hasn't happened), but if PK cannot make the field of 68 then it would be really tough for the athletic department to justify bringing him back. If for not other reason, than the fact that the cupboard will be virtually bare in 2011 and PK or the new coach will have to undertake almost a complete overhaul of the entire roster.
Looking at 2011-2012: With the departure of six seniors, and if Texas Tech, PK will be looking to plug at least six scholarships (although I think that there are restrictions on the number of scholarships that can be handed out in a given year). PK has done a couple of things, which may or may not pay off in the long run.
First, Javares Willis, committed to Texas Tech when he was merely a 2-star player that was headed off to prep school to hopefully improve his grades and his game. After a year in prep school, Willis is now a 4-star player that will look to receive significant minutes in 2011-2012. Willis not only improved his game, but he's apparently impressed a handful of folks, especially considering Willis is rates as the 74th best player in this year's recruiting class and he has the potential to make an immediate impact with his shooting and scoring, something that this team desperately needs.
Q. What about two or three "sleeper" recruits you think can make an impact as freshmen?
A. Look out for Javarez Willis, who will be at Texas Tech next year. Wills, a 5-10 guard from Humble (Texas) Christian Life Center, just might be the best shooter coming into college basketball next season. In Pat Knight's motion offense at Tech, Willis could be lethal coming off all those screens.
Not to mention, I think it would be in PK's best interest not to play John Roberson 36 minutes in 2010. Last year, Mike Davis backed up Roberson, but if Willis is as good as advertised, I could easily see Willis advancing in front of Davis. Davis gave good effort, but he wasn't spectacular and he didn't demonstrate much of an outside shot or real ability to score. Willis is supposedly an ace from the outside and this team actually needs more consistent outside shooting, especially in trying to replace Okorie. Quite a bit hinges on Willis being able to replace Roberson and step into a back-up role immediately.
PK then secured his future shooting-guard in Marshall Henderson. The biggest problem with Henderson is that he comes with a certain amount of baggage. He is apparently a very confident individual (i.e. cocky), and although this has been pointed out a handful of times, he was the player that shoved/punched a BYU player last year that led to a one game suspension. Henderson does have talent, as he averaged over 11 points a game as a true freshman. There's the thought that by the time he dons the scarlet and black, that he'll have another year under his belt in terms of maturity, and he'll hopefully add to that 175 pound frame where he could be a legitimate shooting-guard in the Big 12. Henderson improving on his freshman year and being able to walk into the starting shooting guard role for Texas Tech in 2011 is going to be a huge part of that year's success.
The downside to all of this is that I'm surmising that Henderson took the scholarship of SF Corbin Ray, who had a concussion in the early part of the 2009 season and it is my understanding that he's had to effectively end his basketball career. You never like it when a player has an injury that keeps him from playing, but this is the hand that PK was dealt. Prior to the most recent signing period, PK went after a power forward from Findley Prep who later decided to play at Loyola-Marymount rather than Texas Tech.
I'm also guessing that PK took a look at his 2010 recruiting class and after the incredibly lackluster effort that PF Paul Cooper put forth during his sophomore year at Gulf Coast C.C., PK decided that he needed another big man. Truthfully, PK still needs another big man and PK probably decided that he wouldn't find a basketball talent like Henderson waiting forever and if a coach has the opportunity to add talent, then add talent. This means that PK will be forced to sign at least 3 or 4 post players once all of the 2010 seniors graduate. The 2011 season will only have Robert Lewandowski and Paul Cooper as seniors and the only true post players on the roster. PK is going to have to sign a mix of high school players and more than likely some JUCO's in order to field a somewhat competitive team in 2011. As stated above, the backcourt is in place, it's the frontcourt that is going to give this team fits.
The Other Recruits: There's one player from the 2009 recruiting class that we didn't see in 2009, Jaye Crockett (6-6/186). Crockett is a small forward type, one of the best players in the state of New Mexico after his senior season, but he redshirted last year. Personally, I think that this was the absolute best thing for Crockett. He was a slender 186 pounds as a freshman and it's my hope that he can develop as a true small forward in the sense that he maintained enough quickness to guard perimeter players, but is also to play some inside due to his length. The truth of the matter is that Crockett is the only option for that small forward position currently on the roster after 2010.
SG Jame Outler is an unknown to me, although he apparently is a true shooting guard with a pretty decent offer list. When Outler committed to Texas Tech, this was his ESPN scouting report:
Outler is a true shooting guard that attacks from the wing in transition and in the half court. He runs the floor and can beat his defender off the dribble for an acrobatic layup. Outlet can get to the rim and elevate over smaller defenders and score with his good athletic ability and length. He goes to the defensive glass and can initiate the fast break as well. He is a good mid range shooter off the catch or dribble but must be more consistent from beyond the arc. Outler must work on his shot preparation. He seems to always be straight legged when he catches the ball and is open to knock down a jumper off the catch. He is a good on ball defender and plays with energy and effort. He is a good ball handler that can help break pressure from the wing or attack from a ball reversal pass against the press. One to watch to see how much he will improve his game this summer.
Outler averaged 15.3 points a game as a senior, on a team that was loaded with Division I talent. I think that right now, Outler should be redshirted, especially with all of the returning talent for the upcoming season.
The Knight Influence: I'm not naive enough to think that Bob Knight doe not have some influence regarding the direction of the basketball program. The only reason why PK is the head coach is because of his father and I don't think that PK has ever denied this. The question I have is how much of an influence does Bob still have with the direction of the program? If PK doesn't make the NCAA Tournament and assuming that Gerald Myers is still the athletic director, does he have the stones to let PK go? Much has been made about the fact that Gerald and Bob are good friends and their friendship brought Bob to Lubbock. But that friendship may eventually get in the way of a successful basketball program and that bothers me. There's the prevailing thought that Myers won't be the athletic director by the time this question is raised, but that doesn't give me any sort of assurance that the right thing will happen.
I don't necessarily think that PK is a bad coach, but the problem has been that there just hasn't been enough talent in Lubbock to compete at the Big 12. I made plenty of excuses for PK early in his career about how PK couldn't recruit the players he wanted because of his father's influence. After having a couple of recruiting classes under his belt, I'm getting less and less confident about this group's ability to recruit when you compare Texas Tech to their peers. Missouri, Texas, Kansas and Baylor had a top 25 recruiting classes in 2010 while Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Baylor and Kansas St. also had top 25 recruiting classes in 2009. I will say that if there's one thing that shouldn't go unnoticed is the fact that Pat Knight and his staff don't play the AAU recruiting game. PK doesn't hire coaches close to high profile AAU players and that may be to his detriment, but truthfully, I hate this aspect of recruiting and I'm glad that PK is above this practice.
Without a doubt, 2010 is going to be an interesting year and I believe that it's the year that Pat Knight must make something happen because his job is on the line.
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The graphics on the pic are just great
And so professional grade. Great work Seth…oh and the content is good stuff too. My take on the situation is that I just don’t see this thing being any better than it has been in the last few years. I don’t see PK making it and I honestly hope GM is already gone. With a new AD, you’re right about one thing, PK will need to make the tournament.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
That photo isn't anything special
I uploaded to this website http://tiltshiftmaker.com/ and it makes me look like a great photographer, which I’m not.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
Not to be a debbie downer
i am usually never pessimistic about our sports programs, but PK has done enough over the past 3 years to show that he doesn’t have it in him to either recruit or turn the program around. Under Knight senior we went to a post season every year but once. Most of these trips were to the NCAA. Tech finished as Big XII runner up once, made the sweet sixteen once and usually spent a few weeks in the top 25 national rankings. PK’s immediate impact was a downward spiral on the program, much the same way Kristi Curry’s impact was on the lady raider program. We need competent coaches that can keep us atleast in the top half of the big XII, which was never an issue before these coaching changes took place. The conference realignment showed the importance of doing well even in the non-football related games and since we are paying our basketball coaches so well, I think as fans we can demand a little more production than we have seen so far. The onus is on the athletic director to make the change, I am not sure if this would happen though.
hard working players
but the coach has to get them ready to finish. This team could not finish last year and that’s why they were in the bottom half of the big 12. I think the reason Papa Knight got us into some post season play was because of D. They have got to play D!
"A job well done is better than a job well said."
by I bleed Red and Black on Jun 29, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions
Red and Black hit the nail on the head
The players and PK have got to learn how to finish a game. Our added depth helped out last year, but we still fell apart in the last 10 minutes of a lot of games. If you take a look at last year’s games, we had 4 overtime games, one of which they one (against U Dub – possibly the high point of the season), the other 3 were losses with two of them going into double overtime including the final NIT game against Ole Miss – which was a great game if you missed it. Combine that with five other losses of 5 points or less, where the Raiders were in the game and had a chance to win it, but either couldn’t find the offense or the defense to close out the game, including games against Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma. If we win half of those games, we are talking about a 20+ win season and likely a trip to the dance and maybe we all feel a little better about our team.
That said, what’s it going to take for this team (which as Seth points out, is basically the same team as last year) to get better? Free throws have got to get better, especially Singletary leading the team in FT attempts – 71% (Singletary) and 70% (Team) isn’t going to cut it. Team rebounding has to get better – Roberts has shown that he can be a monster on the boards when he wants to and I am hopeful that Cooper’s big body will be able to make up for the boards that Darko’s departure will leave available. Singletary has to play strong every game and not wilt every time he has a more athletic forward guarding him. Lastly, they have to value each possession. How many times did we see a trapping defense from different teams only to see our guys panic like it was the first time and throw the ball away? Or silly outlet passes that are way too strong and go out of bounds when calmer heads would have taken time and controlled possession of the ball.
PK seems to be fair coach, and appears to be getting better (I seriously doubted some decisions his first season). Although I seem to recall, PK had issues with commanding the team’s respect at one point in the season – perhaps it was during their 7 game slump and players were getting frustrated, but that can’t be a good thing when a coach loses control. I think PK finally gets through to these guys this year and they are able to close out some of these games, and probably make a post season tournament. Unfortunately, I don’t have much hope for a team with so many unknown variables and an unproven coach going forward after that. Sounds like we have some talent coming in, but I am not sold that PK can mold that talent to provide 20+ win seasons from here on out.
You're right about
this team needing to buy into playing great defense. The teams that play the best defense are the best teams: http://kenpom.com/conf.php?y=2010&c=B12
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
PK
As much as I hate to admit it, I just don’t think PK is the gy moving forward. This team needs a make over from top to bottom. It’s really hard to get excited about Tech basketball when making the tournament any time soon seems unlikely. One or Two great players can’t do it all. This team needs depth and quality coaching. We are a head coach away and probably a few recruiting classes to say the least.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
I cannot see next season making any difference in the Red Raider program. I thought when we landed Singletary, Roberts, and Roberson that recruiting was turning especially when Lewandowski came the following year in a small class…but that early success has not developed into continued improvement…we are still trying to fill holes with JC’s rather than get good hs players and develop them into great college players.
Someone mentioned Coach Curry above…a major difference in the two programs is that there are signs of recruiting success, ongoing success that gives rise to hopes for a growing program…after early weak attempts at filling the voids with JC’s who could not carry the program. Last year’s freshmen = or are better than the three mentioned in the men’s program…the following two classes are much much better than the men’s—the current class has room for only one schollie and she is commited and is a good basketball player.
women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans
I'm surprised Curry still has a job at Tech
how much of her struggles are due to things she has done, and how much of it is the improvement of programs in-state at A&M, Baylor, and texas?
Put another way, can the State of Texas support four strong women’s basketball programs, or does the success of the other three mean one will always be down?
I am surprised that anyone who touts himself as a sports blogger
would make a statement like that with out any rational.
I clearly do not know what happens when a coach does performance reviews so I cannot speak to that…but that a coach who is not winning contiues to hold a role makes me believe that there is something other than the win/loss column that is being evaluated.
And yes, there is plenty of room in the State of Texas for at least 4 basketball programs…the mere idea if that is parochial at best.
women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans
well
So I guess it is just coincidence that as Baylor, A&M, and texas have risen, Tech has fallen off?
It is a pretty common cycle in most college programs.
women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans
I'd be careful about comparing yourselves to peers in recruiting
Kansas and Missouri care about basketball the way Texans care about football, so comparing the programs to Tech is kind of unfair. I’m not saying Tech shouldn’t recruit well in basketball, I’m just saying trying to put them up against the tradition and history of those two programs is unfair. Pat Knight is never going to be willing to cheat enough to keep up with Baylor, so comparing y’all to Baylor doesn’t make sense; y’all aren’t willing to drop to that level of sleaze, and that is a good thing. As for texas, they have a terrific coach, and they’ve had some success recently, so they’re going to do solid in recruiting. Kansas, Kansas State, and texas all seem okay with pursuing one-and-done players, and I’m not sure PK wants to do that.
Looking at those recruiting rankings reminded me again of why I’m glad I don’t follow basketball recruiting; we now have one player in the top 150 coming in after the tragic passing of Oyedeji, and he looks like he will need a redshirt year to put on some weight. And wow, did texas and OU underachieve last season, given those rankings.
Sure they underachieved
but I still think there is something to those rankings and Texas Tech isn’t even in the discussion and haven’t been in the discussion for a long time. Texas Tech has to get more talent on campus.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
when was the last time y'all had a decent
big man? by decent I mean the kinds that can get you 12 points and 8 rebounds every night and throw in a 20 point game against a bigtime opponent. I can not think of a Tech big man I have been worried about since Tony Battie left. Knight has done a decent job recruiting the perimeter. He has not done well on the inside.
I hear Eric Dampier might be available..,
"Fill it up again". "It's so good! Once it hits your lips it's so good!" -Frank the Tank
Knight(s) has(have) not recuited well in the least
it is sad to see and sad to say….there is little that I see as encouraging in recruiting for men’s basketball…..
women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans
Pat Knight is still in a learning mode
When Bobby Knight left the program and Pat took over, there was no strong recruiting base to continue. Bobby hated recruiting, at least near the end of his Tech career, and it showed. Also, several players were lost for various reasons not associated with recruiting. Pat Knight, while I am still not very encouraged about as the Texas Tech head coach, has had to pick up a whole lot of slack in the recruiting wars. It appears he is turning that around, but he will still need at least two or three years to solidify his stature as Tech’s basketball coach. He may not have that much time allotted to him as many have become disenchanted with the direction taken by the basketball team for the last three years and pressure is being placed upon him and his program to get it done immediately. Beergut doesn’t think Tech can compete with some Big-12-2 teams in the recruiting end, but Tech used to compete there and on the court pretty darned well. Before this team can compete on an annual basis, Pat must become a great recruiter as well as a great coach. Right now, with him still learning, that is not happening.
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1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.
it isn't that I don't think you can compete
Beergut doesn’t think Tech can compete with some Big-12-2 teams in the recruiting end, but Tech used to compete there and on the court pretty darned well.
I’m talking about recruiting classes, which is a totally different subject from playing on the court. I’m simply saying that if you consistently compare yourself to Kansas in recruiting, you’re never going to be happy, b/c they’re going to win that comparison 99.9% of the time (I supposed there is a chance you might pick up a bigtime recruit like a John Wall or a Michael Beasley that will push Tech’s class over Kansas, but that is about as likely as winning the lottery).
Being competitive on the court is a completely different matter; for instance, y’all swept OU last season, who according to the Rivals rankings had a team a lot more talented than Tech did. Talent doesn’t matter on the court as much as discipline and willingness to play as a team, though, and that is something Tech had that OU didn’t.
I’m not saying y’all can’t compete, I’m just saying don’t compare your program to other programs that are not on the same level. A Kansas basketball fan would laugh if you told him Tech was a peer program, just as a Tech fan would laugh if a Kansas fan tried to compare football teams right now.

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