Double-T Nation Daily Diatribe :: D-II Transfer and Batch Ready for NASCAR


Big 12 Media Day Coverage: Per the official Big 12 site, you'll be able to watch all sorts of coverage from the Big 12 Media Days. You might want to bookmark this page if you happen to have a job that allows you to do nothing all day.
Behind the Scenes: Per the official Texas Tech site, RB Baron Batch and P Jonathan LaCour go behind the scenes regarding the strength and conditioning program. I wasn't able to get the video to work (I think you have to have Silverlight), but I couldn't get the video to start. It would be a lot cooler if this was posted on YouTube.
Tubs' Travels: LAJ's George Watson with a bit on head coach Tommy Tuberville's recent travels where he was at St. Andrews and then back in San Antonio for the Texas High School Coaches Association and a Red Raider Club event yesterday. Here's Tubs:
Tuberville, accompanied on the trip by a large portion of his coaching staff, spent the majority of his hour-long lecture discussing Texas Tech’s defense, which will be similar to what he has run in past stops at Miami under Jimmy Johnson, at Texas A&M under R.C. Slocum and as the head coach at Mississippi and Auburn.
How well the Red Raiders will be able to run the five-man front and 4-3 schemes will be determined in the next few weeks, but Tuberville is optimistic about what his team can do.
"That’s probably our biggest question mark," Tuberville said. "I know we have seven or eight guys who we can play with right now and can play with anybody. But we don’t need seven or eight, we need 20 or 25. We’re going to play a lot of players on defense because I’m from the school that you play two deep, you rotate in and you play young guys. It’s all about, how much can they learn and how much can they adjust from week to week?"
National Football Post Looks at Seniors: National Football Posts' Wes Bunting is looking at every BCS school and their senior NFL prospects. Making this list were QB Taylor Potts, RB Baron Batch, WR Detron Lewis, LT Chris Olson, DT Colby Whitlock and LB Brian Duncan. I think Bunting is dead-wrong about Batch and a little bit off on Olson. Here's Bunting on Batch:
But overall, he isn’t real physical and has a tendency to get tripped up and goes down easily on contact. Isn’t real patient inside and lacks an ideal feel of the run game. Doesn’t look comfortable setting up blocks and just doesn’t have to type of vision to quickly decipher information and react to defenders around him in tighter quarters. Seems to get a bit ahead of himself at times trying to burst into the second level and will simply lose balance in his lower half trying to outpace defenders.
That isn't Batch at all is it? Maybe I'm watching someone else, but to start off by saying that Batch isn't real physical just isn't true and Batch has made a living letting his line set up blocks.
So much more after the jump.
And Bunting on Olson:
Coming from the Texas Tech offense he’s consistently asked to play from a two-point stance and doesn’t look real flexible off the ball. Lacks ideal balance and/or body control when asked to reach the corner, gets doubled over at the waist and doesn’t exhibit any semblance of a kick-slide off the edge. Looks content to simply back straight up off the line, but fails to keep his legs under him and hands cocked ready to punch. Struggles to move his feet through contact, isn’t real heavy handed and fails to anchor with much consistency.
I wonder if Bunting's thoughts would change if Olson isn't really projected as a tackle in the NFL and may not play tackle this year for Texas Tech. I think there's a reason why Olson struggles to find a spot along the line, but on the other hand he's versatile. I do think that Olson needs to get stronger.
I also wonder if Bunting took a look at LG Lonnie Edwards or LB Bront Bird. Bird has limitations, but it seems like he could receive some sort of free-agent look and Edwards may be a guy that's got to prove himself over the course of the year, but I think he's a draftable player.
Batch Ready for NASCAR: Fanhouse's Terrance Harris talks with RB Baron Batch and Batch sounds a tad bit excited about the quicker-paced offense:
"This could be one of the best things for me. It is. That's a fact," Batch said to FanHouse recently as he sat in the room that will soon be Texas Tech's Hall of Fame. "The running back will be used more in this offense. But at the same time, it's still the spread, it's still a pass-first offense but, at the same time, you have to be able to run the ball to win championships. You can't show me a championship team that can't run the ball effectively."
Batch also talks about running backs coach Chad Scott:
"The thing about it, coaches come and go," he said. "We've had coaches come and go in the past. This is my third running backs coach now. It's just one of those things you have to learn how to adjust and take everything you learn and add it to your game. That's one thing I am really excited about with Coach Scott. He absolutely loves the game of football and knows his stuff in and out.
"It's kind of like taking another book off the shelf I can read from. It's definitely going to help me this year, especially going to the next level."
Matters' Defensive Ballot: I wish more beat-writers did this, CT's Dave Matter released his All-Big 12 Defense and LB Brian Duncan made the list:
Linebacker (three): Travis Lewis, Oklahoma; Von Miller, Texas A&M; Brian Duncan, Texas Tech
* Also considered: Will Ebner, Missouri; Keenan Robinson, Texas; Emmanuel Acho, Texas; Drew Dudley, Kansas
* Why? Lewis and Miller put up production numbers that speak for themselves: Only Missouri's Sean Weatherspoon posted more tackles in the Big 12 in 2008-09 than OU's Lewis; Miller led the country in sacks last year with 17. Duncan gets the edge based on a solid career in Lubbock - he's been the Red Raiders' most active tackler each of the last two seasons.
D-II All-American Transfer: Hat-tip to aggieraider, but it appears that Central Oklahoma safety Giorgio Durham (6-0/190) will be transferring to Texas Tech, thanks in part to WR Tramain Swindall. Here's the story from uco360.com about Durham:
"When Tramain told me there might be an opportunity to come down there I was really excited. I have always been a guy who likes to compete against the best, and going down there will let me showcase the skills I know I have." Tramain Swindall, who plays wide receiver for Texas Tech, and Durham go back to the playground days on the east side of Oklahoma City. So naturally when Durham was given the chance to catch on with Tech he jumped at it.
And here's Durham's profile from Central Oklahoma and his 2009 highlight video:
Giorgio Durham Highlight Film 2010 (via mikey82288)
THSCA All-Star Game: LAJ's George Watson has a short write-up on last night's THSCA All-Star Game. QB Scotty Young was 4 of 16 for 25 yards and 2 picks. There were some other Texas Tech players, but I haven't found any detail on how they performed. Although I enjoy reading knee-jerk reactions, hopefully we can all agree that Young is still a tremendous prospect and I'm excited as all get-out that he'll be in Lubbock for the next few years.

Measuring Attendance: LAJ's Courtney Linehan has a short bit on how she figure out attendance. As most people know, most programs use tickets distributed and not the actual turnstile attendance:
I decided to go with turnstile figures, which I obtained through the Texas Tech athletic department. In truth, there are likely people who purchased Texas Tech basketball tickets but for whatever reason did not make it to the game. However, while attending every home basketball game last season I could look around the gym and see a significant difference between the number of people I was told were in attendance and the number I could see in the stands. Turnstile seems like a much more reasonable estimate of attendance in this case, so that’s what I used.
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Wes Bunting = Epic Fail
I’d rather they didn’t write anything at all if they are going to just slop thru it. What a waste.
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WTF
…he isn’t real physical and has a tendency to get tripped up and goes down easily on contact
Just reading that about Batch lets me know this guy’s an idiot. In fact, is there even a back for Tech that that describes? Batch and Crawford both run through people, and Jeffers and Stephens always find a way to escape.
by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 21, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
who was he watching?
If that describes BB then Wes is Lindsey Lohan…..I’m just stunned on how bad the national reporting is about TTU…just amazing! Wreck’Em Tech
Someone
needs to email Wes the highlight clip from Seth’s favorite player post. I realize that is just a sampling, but someone who ’isn’t real physical’ couldn’t put together a highlight reel like that.
Wes
He is just a critical guy, I remember reading his evalutaion from the 2010 NFL Draft and he basically points out bad things about eveyone outside of the top five picks. I dont really have a problem with his evaluations because they are just that critical evaluations, at the college level there are few perfect atheletes. See his evalutaion of Whitlock, its about fifty fifty good/bad and this is someone he likes.
Speaking of strange things on the internet........
www.iamthe12thman.com linked to a story about our stadium rendering from years back. Kinda strange stuff….
http://www.iamthe12thman.com/2010/7/18/1575661/texas-tech-marketing-stealing
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Giorgio Durham
Hey, he looks like the real deal. Too soon to tell, but he should play this year, right? If we play true frosh on D, we will develop great depth and talent during the season. Time to get excited, get out your checkbooks, wear your Double-T logos everywhere you go and put a sticker on your car. Talk up the school and always always be positive. It is going to be a great year!
Yes, really
D-I to D-II: play immediately (with a one-time exception and other conditions met)
D-II to D-I: sit out one year (must complete one academic year in residence)
He doesn’t lose a year of eligibility but is still subject to the 5-year window . . . which shouldn’t be an issue since he burned his redshirt during this freshman year. Had he kept the redshirt, we would likely lose a season of eligibility unless granted a waiver. I would think this rule is in place to keep programs from using D-II schools as a farm system. Plus, imagine the recruiting chaos if every D-II player was immediately available.
Source: http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/TGONLINE2009.pdf
Question
Does anyone know of any previous examples of Division II players who transfered to DI (FBS) football programs and were able to make an impact (i.e. started, received a post season award or played in the NFL after playing on the FBS team)?
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Jul 21, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
The question does not apply to JUCO players of which there are many examples.
Thanks!
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Jul 21, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I would consider JUCO below Division II......
but that’s just me.
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I disagree
JUCO’s are filled with incredibly talented players who simply do not have the academic skills or commitment to make it in D-I. On the flip side, many D-II’s are limited on talent simply because they must rely on the student’s ability to obtain financial aid or self-fund (as opposed to riding on scholarship). The lack of scholarship is Giorgio’s primary reason for leaving OCU; he was only on partial scholarship.
In basketball, the skill gap is even more narrow. At top JUCO programs, the academics are the only reason many of these kids aren’t playing D-I. Many D-I schools, including Tech, prefer to avoid top JUCO’s for pre-season because they routinely get an embarrassing loss.
Or kids that went to small schools
that didnt make the news because the team around them didn’t do so great.
I have no examples
But clearly there are some Appilacian State guys who could have done it!
Good catch
D-2 is not FBS. For context, D-2 is West Texas A&M, Abilene Christian, Angelo State, Tarleton, Eastern New Mexico, Texas A&M – Kingsville and Commerce, etc. Perennial powers are North Dakota State, Grand Valley, Northwest Missouri, etc. Granted, if D-2 experience was good enough for our OC, it should be good enough for this kid.
Transfer from Howard Payne to Texas Tech a few years back
I don’t remember the specifics, but a few (say 5) years back a player transferred from Howard Payne (Division III) to Texas Tech, and he saw action for the Red Raiders.
by TTNDIUalumni on Jul 21, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I cannot think of anyone, but I believe most players that enjoy a degree of success in D-II prefer to stick with what’s comfortable. For someone to enjoy D-II All-American status and walk away is a very unique situation, perhaps unheard of. Unless UCO is in dire financial straits, I cannot imagine how this kid wasn’t put on full scholarship and retained. Hopefully, their loss is our gain.
This kid is a young player already at the top of his division class--all american
maybe he is good enough to play Div1…if he did not have something why would our coaching staff consider bringing him on board.
The Howard Payne player who walked on from Div-III is Khalid Naziruddin, he played good football for TTU as a starter in 05. Got some looks in the pros afterwards.
women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer cans
How about Abilene Christian to the Bears
There are a large number of players that went directly from D2 to NFL . . . but we haven’t been able to find anyone who went D2 —> D1-FBS —> NFL. I am sure it has happened but it doesn’t appear to be a common path.
That is an interesting
phenomenon, I know that Daniel Manning was an extraordinary athlete but why he did not take at a d-1 school I never really understood.
FORZA ROSSI
Durham
This kid could be a diamond in the rough. An All American D-II player on the roster can’t be a bad thing. His video shows he has really good hands so I could see him remaining a DB or WR possibly. Does anyone know what he runs in the 40?
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
I did some searching for a 40 time and couldn’t find anything. I even looked for any old high school track results. He did snag 8 INT’s (plus one on a 2-pt conversion) last year, and that is difficult to do without decent speed (even in D-II). He also has aspirations to be a model (knowledge courtesy of Google), which should provide robust ammunition for some locker room razzing. CBS Sports has him identified as the 37th strong safety prospect for 2012 draft. He might have been a D-I prospect out of high school, but it sounds like he moved around a lot (admitted family drama) which likely hurt his stock.
THSCA All-Star Game
Unfortunately I didn’t make it to the game. I had a pair of tickets and was set to go, but had an issue at the last minute. Sorry I couldn’t provide DTN with an analysis. Will try again next year.
Live big.
by San Antonio Red Raider on Jul 21, 2010 9:29 AM CDT reply actions
Fired!
Just kidding.
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caught red handed......
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Maybe this will make it up:
A few minutes before the Tech luncheon was supposed to start yesterday, Katfish was walking around the parking lot of Hemisfair Park dropping F- bombs because he couldn’t figure out where he was supposed to go or how to get in.
It’s not a game breakdown but it’s a nice bit of info you won’t find in the newspapers.
I’m liking him more and more everyday.
Live big.
by San Antonio Red Raider on Jul 21, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting to come around myself...
Just need some video of the Katfish unloading F-bombs on Sweet Baby James during practice and I’m a big fan…
"Winning isn't everything"... Bob Knight
by raider realist on Jul 21, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
just for you:
If only we could get this kind of intensity out of Potts the world would be ours.

Balls of steel, six weeks away from a compound fracture in his leg
Rossi is doing this

German Paddock girl for the rest of you

FORZA ROSSI
I heart Valentino Rossi!!
bmaxw – you’re a gentleman and a scholar. First MotoGP or Fomula 1 race in Austin is on me.
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S&C Video
The student-athlete produced videos are an excellent idea, and I thought LaCour and Batch did a fine job. I thought the article and video were very interesting and provided great insight into Coach Walker’s philosophies and techniques. I always appreciated Wylie’s excitement level (and thought he looked like a quintessential badass), but I think the new S&C philosophy is going to pay solid dividends on the field. The fact that nutrition was never been a point-of-emphasis is a startling revelation. Much of Wylie’s experience came from the pro game, and it makes me curious if he was unfamiliar with certain aspects of the S&C program (i.e., on a pro team, the S&C coach is perhaps isolated or compartmentalized from the nutritional experts). I also wonder if Leach put blind faith in Wylie for the S&C philosophy, especially since S&C doesn’t seem like a topic that would get Leach’s juices flowing. While I wish Coach Wylie the best of luck on Rocky Top, I am impressed with Coach Walker and the team’s positive reaction.

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