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This will be somewhat of a combination post.  Lots of links and five questions.  First things first, you can find the transcript (PDF) and the video at the official Big 12 website.  You can also go to the Big 12 page at Fox Sports Southwest to find some video.  The official Texas Tech site has some photo opportunities with head coach Tommy Tuberville, DT Colby Whitlock, QB Taylor Potts and QB Steven Sheffield.   I would also recommend listening to Ryan Hyatt as you're answering questions.  A little bit of recruiting and a little bit of Big 12 Media Days.

1.  Run Pass Ratio:  Tuberville continues to say (check out the transcript where he says he thinks it's going to be a 60 : 40 or 65 : 35 split on passes to runs), yet we still have people who continue to rehash Tuberville's statistics at Auburn.  The only evidence that we have about the new offense is what happened during the spring game, and even that needs to be taken with a grain of salt.  And although it was tough to put together the stats, by my count, the quarterbacks threw 102 pass attempts and there were about 30 rushes.  Is anyone else concerned about the pass to run ratio or are you more concerned that the national press doesn't seem to get it (or is this a situation where I'm not getting it)?

2.  QB Controversy:  Tuberville said that part of his decision-making process was to bring both quarterbacks to see how they handled the press.  Sheffield and Potts had this to say about the competition:

Potts: "We don't hate each other."

Sheffield: "We're not best of friends, but we aren't arch enemies or anything. We understand it. We're both competing for the spot. It's business, and we've got to be professional about it. It would be a waste of time if we went around writing hateful messages to each other and slipping them in each other's locker."

I'm guessing that Potts quote was taken a little bit out of context.  Sheffield also talked with FWST's Dwain Price who said that either quarterback is going to be supportive of the program, otherwise they won't be around:

However, each player missed games last season because of injury, and they both missed the spring game while nursing injuries. Each said they will support whoever ends up as the Raiders' No. 1 quarterback.

"If the other guy doesn't jump on board, then he doesn't need to be around the program, because at the end of the day, it's the team," Sheffield said. "It's not the quarterback battle. The other guys in Lubbock right now, they need the best guy on the field. If the best guy's got to win, the other guy can't affect that."

If I had to guess, I think that they're relationship is just one of those that they're not calling each other to go out to the bar, but they get along just fine.  They aren't best friends like Rob and Big Black, but then again, who could be as close as Rob and Big Black?  As far as the decision, Tuberville said that he wants to stick with the quarterback that wins the job and they'll both be given a very long leach in the spring (articles can be found by LAJ's Don Williams, DMN's Mike Heikaand DMN's Chuck Carlton).  Do you agree with Tuberville's method?  Would you change anything in terms of player evaluation?

More after the jump.

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3.  Forgotten Man:  Because Tuberville brought the quarterbacks, you might say that Whitlock was somewhat of a forgotten man.  NewsOK's Berry Tramel talked with Whitlock, who said that he he really likes the structure that Tuberville has brought to the program and also has some thoughts on the defense:

 

Tuberville has switched Tech’s base defense from 4-3 to 3-4. "It’s a lot more aggressive mindset on the defensive size of the ball," Whitlock said. "You can definitely tell that defense is important to Coach Tuberville."

How do you think Whitlock will fare in this new 3-4 defense?  Give me your prediction for tackles, tackles for loss and sacks.  For comparison purposes, here's Whitlock's statistics from last year?

4.  Bringing the Offense and Defense Together:  ESPN's Jeff Caplan and DMN's Rainer Sabin wrote stories about Tuberville is hoping to change the attitude of the defense.  From Caplan's article:

"We want our defense to take a step up. We want to let them know that they're part of the team. For us to win a championship, they have to be accountable," Tuberville said. "The one thing I noticed about our defense is they didn't have a lot of confidence. You know, there wasn't a lot of talk about them. If there was, it was about not playing very well, there was no credit on that side. For some reason, everything was focused on offense."

And from Sabin's article:

"It's not going to be about special teams or defense or offense," Tuberville said. "It's going to be about team. Everybody is going to play their part, play their role, and get the job done. If we do that, then we've got a much better chance of winning a championship than we do if we separate the team."

Do you think that this is a real issue with the defense, i.e. that the defense did lack some sense of confidence?  How much affect can coaches that obviously knows defense in Tuberville and DC Wills have on a team?

5.  Apologizing:  With all of the stuff that's happened over the course the winter and spring, I don't recall that I remember Tuberville saying that he apologized to the team upon his arrival, per DMN's Mike Heika:

"First thing I did when I went in to them, when I first talked to them, I apologized to them for what they went through because players are there to get an education and have fun playing college football, and they went through a season that was hectic and Coach leaves and the bowl game was a mess in terms of it wasn't about them, it was about who's going to be the coach. So we had to get our players back. So it's really been good.

It could have been very difficult had the players just said, you know, we're not doing this. We don't want to play for a new coach. Or we don't want to change defenses. Or we don't want new assistant coaches here.

So I've been very proud of the players and their maturity and how they've handled it. They're usually a lot more mature than a lot of people making the decisions of what goes on. They know really what needs to happen.

So I've been fortunate that we've got good leaders on the team. We've got guys that have stepped up. Again, I put their feet to the fire.''

Pretty interesting and I think my respect level for Tuberville went up a bit.  He didn't have to apologize, none of it was his fault, but obviously he and the new staff was going to be the only people they could voice their opinions.  Is an apology like this a good first step in building some trust within the players or is this more a reflection of the type of players on this team?

Bonus Coverage:  ESPN's Jeff Caplan had some interesting quotes from Sheffield, including the fact that there was apparently a $500 reward if a player or anyone found an agent at the football facility and that the players thought that it was illegal to talk to agents, and Sheffield said that OC Brown is very detail oriented: 

"Every single step, if our drop is not straight back then it's wrong, it's marked down wrong, it's on our sheets," Sheffield said. "I think it's good to see. We get to see more of our stats that we do everyday in practice and what we really need to focus on. You know, NFL scouts look at that stuff, they look at the first step being straight back, not false-stepping, stuff like that. That's just stuff we were never coached up on, which wasn't a bad thing because we were successful. But, just a different coaching style."

. . . Per ESPN's Jeff Caplan BCS head-honcho Bill Hancock said that by not having a playoff, it protects the regular season:

*Problem with a playoff: "It's so important to remember that we have the most compelling and meaningful regular season of any sports and it's the cornerstone of what happens on college campuses during the fall, and it's just too important to risk. The playoff would end the bowl games as we know them. I always get into discussions with reporters and others about this who say the bowl games would survive, look at the NIT. And my response is, 'Yes, look at the NIT.'

"If we had a playoff, a four-team playoff, team five would be very upset about not being in the field. Team nine, team 17, team 33. And just in summary, this is the best format. Every game counts."

Bullshit.

. . . LAJ's Don Williams said that Big 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe thinks the Big 12-2 is totally awesome and that the expected changes in revenue sharing have not been implemented and that nobody got more money:

He also made it clear no changes in revenue sharing have been implemented.

"There’s been a lot of misinformation," Beebe said. "Whatever institutions at any level in our conference were able to achieve before, they still have the same ability. Nobody got more money."

Beebe said the conference members "understand" the inequality of revenue and have "agreed to go forward with it the way it is."

"It’s not discriminatory," Beebe said. "It’s based upon your appearances, your market value. You need to do better in the program and you get a chance to achieve like everybody else."

I'll be waiting patiently to see if UT, OU and TAMU get their promised $20 million or if Beebe is being a tad bit dishonest here, although he does say "market value" which could be so many things.  Seems that distributions should be more equal than not, but no one is really asking for my opinion.

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You are not crazy Seth and yes you get it.

The run pass mix I counted in the spring game was 99 passes and 32 rushes. I think there may have been 3 – 4 bad exchanges as well. I recall 2 busted plays by the QB’s so those are rushes but they were intended to throw.
The folks who keep saying Tuberville won’t change his spots are not embracing the bigger picture of group dynamics in organizations.
1. See the picture/situation for what is – its a Pass oriented hurry up offense
2. Footbal is a copycat endeavor – whatever works is adapted over and over
3. The head coach got fired for being unable to outscore his opponents – now he has the scoring machine of the decade
4. The offensive coaches did not even change the terminology – they demonstrated the pass first at the spring game so what is mysterious or hard about not seeing minor change in game planning philosophy?
5. Rushing the ball is all about maximizing your weapons- that is what all coaches do – don’t stress about the subtleties

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by centexraider on Jul 28, 2010 7:10 AM CDT reply actions  

lot easier to avoid problems like what USC had and UNC and a few others are being investigated for if your player just don’t talk to agents at all until they complete their final year of eligibility. I like the idea of a bounty on the head of the agents, scummy bastards that they are.

by kayakyakr on Jul 28, 2010 7:22 AM CDT reply actions  

My 1st thought was "Don't offer the players $500, we'll get probation again"

Maybe Tubs will give them $500 more worth of steaks in the cafeteria.

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by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

The problem is not the agents directly. Aparently there is a certain level of scumbag what you have seen mentioned in the media as “runners” these guys get involved with players earlier than the agents are allowed (illegaly) and then they act as brokers between the plaeyers and the agents. I would also so that as the quality of our recruiting goes up the risk of this type of scandal goes through the roof.

by Gus Mitchem on Jul 28, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't recall the apology being mentioned either

I do think it was a good first step by CTT, especially to enhance his role as a mentor to the players. I think he had to acknowledge the roller coaster the team had been on rather than ignore it. So much of the game is mental, especially at the higher levels of competition. It probably also allowed CTT to assess who the actual leaders are on this team.

by Dub Parks 88 on Jul 28, 2010 7:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Perhaps that's the bigger point...

Just maybe – the reason none of us remember hearing about an initial apology is that the apology wasn’t to us the fans, or to the media, or to anyone else besides the players. It was not an attention grab, a media ploy, or a PR move. It was a sincere communication between a coach and his new team. Just maybe, the men who needed to hear it heard it. IMO that speaks volumes about Tubs’ credibility and class – of course, assuming that it actually occurred.

by AmarilloTechster on Jul 28, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

#2

Sticks performs better on the field, and interviews better lol start ‘em coach! Why do I get the feeling from Sticks’ response about nasty notes in lockers that Potts may have been guilty of this at some point?

by RdrPwr on Jul 28, 2010 8:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Great set of questions

1. Is anyone else concerned about the pass to run ratio or are you more concerned that the national press doesn’t seem to get it (or is this a situation where I’m not getting it)?<

First of all, the national press does not get it. Second of all, I think we will see a reduction in passes thrown based, not on Tuberville’s track record at Auburn, but on Neil Brown’s track record at Troy.

Brown’s Troy offenses in 2008 and 2009 generated a 54/46 run/pass ratio. Under Leach, in both 2008 and 2009, Texas Tech’s run/pass ratio was 67/32.

Given that so much of our talent is concentrated in the backfield, I would expect Brown to lean more favorably toward the run, especially as we get to the meat of our schedule beginning with Texas in Week 3 and ending with Oklahoma in Week 10. Brown might be more aggressive with the pass against weaker opponents like SMU, New Mexico, Weber State and possibly Houston, but the real indicator of which approach Brown takes will be better understood, not against the likes of SMU or Weber State, but versus UT and Oklahoma.

How do you think Whitlock will fare in this new 3-4 defense?

No idea. I don’t know if nose guard’s statistics increase or decrease in a 3-4 scheme versus a 4-3 scheme. My initial reaction is that if the the nose-guard is lined up directly opposite of the center, as in a 3-4 scheme, he would be more limited in his initial movement, but would be further away from the opposing guard, making him more difficult to double team. In a 4-3 scheme the nose guard is lined up more in the gap between the center and the guard which gives him a little more initial mobility, but makes him easier to double team. I’m not sure which scheme plays to Whitlock’s strengths.

QB Controversy. Do you agree with Tuberville’s method? Would you change anything in terms of player evaluation?

This is a tough call, and very much depends on how much Potts has improved over the off season. If Potts improves and as a result wins the starting job, he must overcome his in-game decision making inconsitencies. Poor throws, bad reads, mental errors and interceptions plagued Potts throughout the season. Last season, when Potts was sputtering and Sheffield came on in relief, most notably against New Mexico, he provided Tech’s offense with a sorely needed shot in the arm. In this example, rotating quarterbacks, versus sticking with the incumbent, was a more successful strategy.

Maybe its just me, but Sheffield’s comments going back to lack season and reconfirmed in these interviews raise a few red flags. It is clear that Sheffield is a fierce competitor, badly wants to win the starting job and probably harbors a little of ‘chip on the shoulder’ animosity which is commonplace in all underdogs and overachievers.

My concern is whether or not that source of motivation can lead to some negative consequences if not properly channeled, If Sheffield loses the starting job, is he the type of guy to hold the clipboard and wave the towel, or is he the type of guy which lets his resentment get the best of him and infect the lockerroom? Right, now I tend to believe that the latter might be more likely, but again, maybe that’s just me.. I am less concerned about Potts’ reaction should he lose his starting spot. Potts will undoubtedly be disappointed, but he seems a bit more grounded and better suited to weathering that kind of setback. Maybe the players respond to Sheffield’s back-against-the-wall mentality better than they do to Potts’ more affable demeanor. Sheffield’s obvious intensity, which I absolutely love, seems like it might be a double edged sword.

Do you think that this is a real issue with the defense, i.e. that the defense did lack some sense of confidence?

I’m not sure how much I buy this.

Our teams in 2008 and 2009 featured NFL caliber players such as Brandon Williams, Darcell Macbath, Brandon Sharpe, Daniel Howard, Jamar Wall, returning All Big 12 players Brian Duncan, Colby Whitlock, and Big 12 Defensive Rookie of the Year, Cody Davis. That’s a pretty talented group, and I doubt any of them would tell you that they lacked confidence as players or as a unit.

Furthermore, this year’s team features 8 returning starters from last year, led by 4 seniors.

That said, this year’s defense features a new system along with presumably better coaches (at least in Tuberville’s case, he has the track record to back it up. In Willis’ case, he shows promise, but let’s not forget that this is Willis’ first season as a DC).

It is possible that the players’ natural confidence might a) be currently absorbed by learning a new system or b) completely fine, and Tuberville is just playing a little ’possum, or c) Tuberville could just be restating the facts here (i.e. over the past couple of years, despite sending 8-9 defensive players to the NFL versus 5-6 offensive players over the same period, all anyone talks about at Texas Tech is the offense).

Apology: Is an apology like this a good first step in building some trust within the players or is this more a reflection of the type of players on this team?

Absolutely a good first step. No question. The players were always collateral damage in this affair (well, except for one).

Bonus Question: Playoffs

Total bullshit. A 4 team playoff which otherwise preserves the bowl system would work fantastically well.

Bonus Unsolicited Comment

At what point does a guy like Beebe, stop drinking his own kool-aid? What a ……<——(insert derogatory comment here)

"This time it's different."

by LondonRaider on Jul 28, 2010 8:05 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

So what you're saying in your response to #2...

is that all problems with attitude and team and what not are all solved if Sheffield is named starter, right?

by RdrPwr on Jul 28, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

So are all team performance issues on the offense

Sticks is the only rational choice. He is the difference between an 11-2 or an 8-5 season this year.

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by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The TD – Int ratios should be enough to settle the argument. I think Potts is in the negative

by Gus Mitchem on Jul 28, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

is exactly why all of us Potts supporters scratch our heads. To support Potts (for us) does NOT mean bashing Sticks. BUT to support Sheffield means to blindly hate on Potts. Potts was 307/470 3440 yds 22 tds and 12 ints. NOT EVEN CLOSE to being negative

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 28, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Potts need a rescue against New Mexico and Michigan State

He almost needed one against Baylor. It’s not hating on a football player you have had enough time to judge to say they aren’t cut out for the role of leading your team’s offense.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fine

then lets have that conversation. If you wanna say Sticks has a better td/int ratio then Id agree. But Id come back saying that exactly 50% of Sticks’ ints went back for six points.

Judge is the operative word here. Plenty of people ‘judge’ potts to be better. When people judge Sticks to be better, and say so by spewing some silly imagined stat like the one above by gus.

Potts needed a rescue against NMexico? He got injured. BADLY. Guess what characterizing a players injury as needing a rescue IS hating on a guy.

I like Potts. For a lot of reasons. I have a suspicion he WILL win the QB duel. When he does, (when and if), how will the Potts Bashers reconcile the fact that TWO top tier head coaches have decided the same thing?

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 28, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Easy killer

I have said before that I will support whomever hits the field wearing red and black. But I also have a sneaking suspicion that Sticks will end up as the starter by season’s end, no matter who starts week one.

by RdrPwr on Jul 28, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then,

my comments werent directed at you. But you obviously get what Im driving at. Where as YOU fall in the same % Pro Sticks as I do in the opposite direction (same % Pro The Stache), MOST people that are Pro Sticks are so much so they go so far as to bash a 20yr old kid by characterizing injuries as “needs for rescue”. I just think its counter productive.

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 28, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since when did an injury with a minute left in the half excuse a 27 minute scoring drought?

Tech scored on its first drive in under a minute, then the Tech offense did nothing the rest of the half. It doesn’t matter whether the reason Potts was replaced was an injury or a response to his lack of success moving the offense. He still needed to be replaced. And the team started scoring TD’s on every drive with Sticks under center. I believe what I see with my eyes. My eyes told me over and over last year that Taylor Potts is not an effective QB for the Air Raid system. That isn’t hating on the kid. It’s reporting what I saw on the field. I would be a terrible QB in the Air Raid system. I’m 51 years old, 5 10 and weight 165 pounds. Is that self hatred? No, it’s just stating facts.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Youre not gettin it
He still needed to be replaced.

what part of injury do you not understand?

Its proclamations like these that I have a problem with. People sayin, “Potts wouldnt have done anything in the 2nd half” of the NM game and yet on the other hand, sayin, “Sticks would have been great in X situation” he was not actually in.

And yes, of course. Because you say YOU would make a terrible Air Raid QB, that makes bashing potts OK.

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 28, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Needed to be rescued against New Mexico?

Really? After suffering a concussion two weeks prior to that game, then receiveing another one during the game, you’d have to be “rescued” too.

As far as MSU goes, all Potts would have had to do is get the ball in the endzone once in the last 8 minutes to win that game. With our offense, that’s possible even when the QB’s off.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

RE: NM

Well, to be fair, yes, Potts had to leave because of injury.

However, up to the point when he left, he and the offense did not play well.

Potts was 13 for 23, 0 TDs and 2 INTs against a then 0-5 New Mexico team. At that point we were tied 7-7 in the second quarter.

Sticks’ stat line was 16 for 23, 3 TDs and 1 INT. Sticks led to the team to 28 straight points, before fumbling on one drive and throwing a ‘pick 6’ on the subsequent possession which brought the score back to 35-14 before Tech pulled away to win 48-21.

It seemed pretty clear that Sticks brought a fire to the team that had been lacking up to that point.

(I would still be happy with either player as a starter. Both bring good qualities, but did display some pretty significant weaknesses at times last year).

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by LondonRaider on Jul 28, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sticks...

is the better QB… enough said… leave it alone.

He will win the job.

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly..

What in the world would Graham Harrell vs. Chris Todd have to do with Potts vs. Sticks?

Your logic is flawed.

Did you watch a single game last year? Sticks is clearly the better QB.

Discussion Over.

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Furthermore...

I’m not Bashing Potts or anything… he’s just not as good as Sheffield…

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm saying...

Harrell had shitty games too, and look how he turned out. To totally write off Potts after what he did last year is juvenile at this point.

Harrell had Colorado and Mizzou, Potts had UNM and Houston.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not...

writing him off completely. However, if I was to gamble…. I would bet that today Sheffield is more likely to win us more games than Potts….

Oh yeah, Potts also had A&M and the Baylor game in addition to the UNM and Houston games… all of them being utterly embarrassing.

Sheffield played lights out in all appearances albeit limited.

I sincerely doubt Potts can lead us to a 10+ win season, while I honestly believe that Sheffield can.

I’d support whoever wins the QB battle. I’m betting Sheffield wins it.

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

OSU was Potts...and not great......

but he was hurt form the NU game.

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by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sticks played a short while against OSU wearing a Mr Heavyfoot Boot

Which was bolted into the turf. Needless to say, the coaches jumped the gun on getting him back on the field.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harrell had Baylor too

Lets not forget he almost lost that one too in the 11-2 wonder season. And I’m not even addressing A&M cause even had Potts showed up we still would have allowed too many damn points to win. No one on either side of the ball had their heads in the game there.

Also, Sheffield did not play “lights out” in all appearances. Look at OSU, our biggest scoring drought the whole game came during a time where he took every single snap (about a 20 minute period), and he wasn’t pulled until the pick 6. Guess what happened? Potts was put in and marched right down the field to a TD.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly,

Are you Taylor Potts?

Also, Sheffield did not play "lights out" in all appearances. Look at OSU

OSU is on Potts… Potts played the majority of that game. Don’t blame Sheffield for not saving Potts’ ass again with a half broken foot, down handily in the 3rd Quarter.

Potts was put in and marched right down the field to a TD.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Potts just march down the field to a TD. He’s gotten lucky and scored a few because others have made plays. But, he hasn’t marched anything anywhere.

Who in their right mind doesn’t see that Sheffield absolutely outplayed Potts last year??

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly....

Potts had 35 pass attempts to Sheffield’s 23…. it’s obvious what QB carries the responsibility for that game.

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Potts had 35 attempts to Sheffield’s 23…. How could you blame Sheffield, he played with a broken foot. You need to read it yourself. Honestly, cut your losses.

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets see...

Tech scored with 3:05 left in the first half and didn’t score again until 6:59 left in the game. That a scoring drought of 26:06. Guess who took all the snap during that drought until that scoring drive…Sticks.

Sticks actually created more TD’s for OSU during that period than he did for Tech…

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

With his foot and 175 pound boot anchored to the turf

You might as well have thrown a one legged man in there as QB. That failure is all on the coachs’ shoulders. He was not in playing shape yet.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's beside the point

I agree with you, but “Bryan Leav” is trying to say that Sticks played “lights out” every game that he touched the field, and the OSU games proves him wrong.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

For an injured kid...

He played as well as a healthy QB… so I’d give him some credit….

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

The one legged man...

was obviously in the game because a healthy QB wasn’t performing… GEE, I WONDER WHO THAT WAS.

If Potts played so well during the OSU game, why did he get pulled?

BECAUSE HE’S NOT THAT GOOD.

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he played outstanding

I’m saying that Sticks didn’t play “light’s out” as you claim he did every game that he was out there.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHICH IS...

Because he had a giant boot on his broken foot, and he hadn’t played in several weeks.

Mike Leach obviously had some faith to put in an injured kid for your healthy Nephew or whatever relation TP is to you.

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no relation to Potts

I just think it’s silly that most of the fan base blindly attacks him as if Sticks had a Heisman like performance everytime he was out there/

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody's attacking him...

but c’mon you blindly defend him, when he has constantly underperformed.

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by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

I know he has his short comings (throws off his back foot, puts too much air under the ball, takes too long to make a decision, etc.), but the whole point is, Sticks has issues too for which most people that support him will never say he has.

I’m a fan of whoever goes out there, and wins games in fall/winter ‘10/’11.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...

with you bout supporting whomever…

But, the smart money’s on Sticks.

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

My money's on...

Brown making the right choice and not looking at the shit that happened with both of them last year to make that choice.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sticks

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a sticks supporter,

I would like to know what these “issues” you speak of are. I promise they are far less concerning than the issues Potts presents as the starter.

by techtom4 on Jul 28, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it helps you feel any better...

I totally agree with you. How anyone can still say with a straight face that Potts is the better choice for our program is beyond my understanding.

by techtom4 on Jul 28, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

What was that yesterday about homerism

and Sticks fans bashing Potts for his injuries? Don’t be hypocritcal here. Sticks played that OSU game with a damn boot on his foot! And I’d have to agree with the posts below in saying OSU was Potts’s game to shoulder, along with aTm. And in the Baylor game where you mention Harrell above, lets not forget he played the entire second half with a completely shattered throwing hand. You want to make excuses for one, make them for all.

by RdrPwr on Jul 29, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

My point exactly...

Sticks supporters say he wasn’t to blame for OSU because he was injured. Yet when someone says Potts was injured ever since UT they just blow it off.

Have you ever played football with a concussion (much less two); I have.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 29, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not blowing off injuries

I do feel that Potts wasnt performing all that well before the injury though. And yes, I have played with multiple concussions. Don’t remember it, but I did it. Apparently said I didnt need a catscan because my mom had cats at home, this after picking up a flag in the middle of a play. Ended up with 4 sacks in a row before they took me out though oddly enough. But guess what? I played the next week. I realize you aren’t fully recovered from a concussion for months, but your mind is there after a week. So I’d have to say IMO Sticks playing with a boot on was more hampering than Potts playing with a two month old concussion.

by RdrPwr on Jul 29, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Concussions also vary in severity

and affect everyone different. Also, the QB position is probably the most important spot on the field in terms of being able to think straight (especially in the air raid), and as mentioned he had two not just one.

Potts isn’t Aikman or Young who get knocked out of a game with a concussion one week and go out and thrown 3 TD’s the next.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 29, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

“Potts isn’t Aikman or Young who get knocked out of a game with a concussion one week and go out and thrown 3 TD’s the next.” …So you’re either saying he’s not as good, or not as much of a gamer. What are you getting at there?

by RdrPwr on Jul 29, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Is there anyone in college football right now that you think will be Aikman or Young (or who could come back from a conscussion after a week and still perform)?

It was an offhanded comment that I didn’t think someone would actually be anal enough to call me on it….

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 29, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just pushing your buttons

Of course I woulld call you on that. I see what you’re getting at when you say the bashing stuff, but the arguments just don’t quite add up. I guess neither side’s do really. Lets just go with its a new season and no one knows, and be done with it. That is until whomever is chosen stops performing to expectations.

by RdrPwr on Jul 29, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're both seniors

No need in sticking with either of them if they arent performing.

by RdrPwr on Jul 29, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if you didn't write Potts off after the Baylor game....

you need to put your pom pons downand see how poorly he played. My assessment doesn’t make me juvenile, but the fact that I just pooped my diaper does. FYI, Harrell got stronger as the year went on….cant exactly say that about Stache.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harrell got stronger as the year went on?

Harrell damn near lost to Baylor in the last week of the regular season in 2008…

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well there...

We have a reason not to play him!!!!!!!!

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's clear,

You don’t really understand what actually happened.

The team had their sights set on a national championship. When their dreams were dashed in Norman, I understand if they lost motivation to play lowly Baylor…..

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Harrell had his hand broken in 26 places in the 1st half

He taped it up & brought the team back to win the game. I have no complaints about Graham Harrelll vs Baylor in 2008.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finally,

someone with some sense….

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Jul 28, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have any complaints about him either.

My point was that like him or not, Briles knew how to play Leach. No matter how good a team Tech put on the field, Briles kept it close against the Captain.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harrell got worse as his career progressed?

Take two deep breaths and chant serenity now. Harrell had his blowups early and played his best foolball as each season went on and in his senior year. How can that really be debated?

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Harrell got stronger as the year went on….cant exactly say that about Stache."

Exact quote from you. Notice year, not career. I was talking about the 2008 campaign not his whole career

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are arguing a point just to argue....

My thoughts were that Harrell got stronger throughout his career and as the season went along in each year (minus the last two game in 08). At that point, he had lead the team to a #2 ranking in the nation and looked like shit against OU and Ole Miss.
Having said all that, I am still juvenile for writing off Potts. And I am a Potts Basher…..happy?
Sticks is clearly the better QB, but that Manning camp trophy sure is pretty.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's your problem?

I agree with you that Harrell did get stronger as his CAREER went along BUT in your ORIGINAL post you said YEAR not CAREER and he didn’t look that great his last two (three if you include the OU debacle, although he didn’t look that bad just the team as a whole sucked).

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

My problem is we are arguing about Stache and Sticks

and you want to debate whether I said Harrell got better in his career or each season….I think that is goofy. Stick to the point….Potts or Sticks. I already said that I think Harrell got better throughout his career and as each season went along ( bowl wins) other than 08. What the f that has to do with Potts and Sticks is a waste of time.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was paralleling Potts' struggles to Harrell's struggles

I’m saying looking at one year might not be the best thing to do when of the best QB’s in school history started out slow too.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Potts didn't start out slow....

He started out like the QB I expected. Even throughout the UT and Houston game….and he fell off a cliff after that.
I would have much more hope if I though he had gotten better as the year progressed…that wasn’t the case. I really did feel for the guy when he lost it last year, after the effort he put into the first few games….but that Baylor game is scarring.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

concussions

Just as they brought down Leach (well that was a “consussion”), they also brought down Potts.

I’ve taken hits on the football while under the effects of a concussion; it sucks (and that was in high school; we’re not talking about hits from 250 pound DL’s).

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Leach was still here...

I would say almost without a doubt that I think Sticks should start, but since the Captain’s in Key West; I’m waiting to make my judgement.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brown is supposedly a fan of letting the QB run out of most formations....

Sounds more conducive to Sticks.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think...

Sticks will be as mobile as he was pre two foot surgeries.

If they’re going to run more deep, verticle passing (as has been hinted) then Potts definately has a chance.

I’’m not here to convince anyone that Potts is the right man or that Sticks is. I just think it’s pre-mature to write off either of them at this stage based only on what we saw last year (since most of us probably don’t see practice time).

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think…
Sticks will be as mobile as he was pre two foot surgeries

Is this to say that he won’t still be many, many, many times more mobile than Potts? Throw the kid a fricken’ bone here.

by techtom4 on Jul 28, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's to say we need a mobile QB?

Yes, it’s nice, but Sticks isn’t Vince Young, Kaepernick, or Jerrod Johnson. He’s not mobile enough that the offense should be built around his mobility. Plus, we all know the clip of LSU-Troy, and there is not a single QB draw play. There was ample opportunity, and LSU most of the time had only 4 or 5 players in the box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPw2tS9lyMk

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 29, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Potts...

is the better QB… enough said… leave it alone

He will win the job.

FORZA ROSSI

by bmaxw on Jul 28, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is Potts the better QB? Oh and you can’t use the terms stache, mustache, or stronger arm in your claim.

by techtom4 on Jul 28, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is better

based on an origami algorithm founded by a 12 year old Asperger syndrome patient who lives in a corn field in Lamb county doing work for the NSA, PLO and Sinn Fein. She is a red headed green eyed Irish Mormon who can give you minute by minute accounts of every battle of the civil war. While she is a complete figment of my imagination, her comments have as much relevance to the real world of predicting the outcome of the QB competition at Texas Tech as any thing posted in this thread today. Oh yea , her name is Polly.

FORZA ROSSI

by bmaxw on Jul 29, 2010 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

There are

rare occasion of girls. I actually went to school with one. This was in the ’70 and know one knew what aspergers was. One day I was listening to NPR and the were describing aspergers and it hit me like a brick to the head; Polly (not her real name) was not just weird she had this. FYI she has done well in life learning to interact with others and control her intellect in a productive manner.
Her life would make a great TLC movie.

FORZA ROSSI

by bmaxw on Jul 29, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

How exactly did you manage to become this way?

by techtom4 on Jul 29, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finally, somebody with some reason!!

" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Jul 31, 2010 6:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget OU

To be fair, you have to consider Potts’ play vs OU. He played a fantastic game overall. And I thought his performance in a loss to UT was admirable for not giving up with adversity.

I’m truely fine with either QB. I think a fresh set of eyes with Brown and other Offensive coaches will be a good thing for both. Bottomline is I have confidence in the staff to pick the right guy based on performance.

Given some of the discussion on coach Brown’s approach with the QB’s in terms of knowing where they are going with the ball prior to the snap might help Potts perform better (not as many progressions). But I also think Sheffield’s mobility might be an asset for him.

IMWTx

"We thought we were too good to play Texas Effin' A&M" -Leach et al

by imisswesttexas on Jul 28, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one was critical of Potts vs OU.

If I am remembering correctly. The talent is there from either QB as we saw last season. Both have pro’s and cons.

IMWTx

"We thought we were too good to play Texas Effin' A&M" -Leach et al

by imisswesttexas on Jul 28, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree. Both have pros and cons. I can also tell you that there is more to being a quarterback than raw talent. When Sticks came onto the field to sub for Potts, the rest of the team suddenly had a livlier step (offense and defense) and seemed to play harder. I know that’s a subjective assessment, but it for sure looked that way. And yes, maybe that’s just because the team needed a change in the midsts of a poor performance, and maybe the same would have happened had Potts been coming in to replace a poorly performing Sticks.

I can tell you what I saw during the games, though. During bad play and during those performance/scoring droughts, time and again I saw Potts slump over to the bench and sit there with his head down. Time and again, during the same period, I saw Sticks up talking to players on both sides of the ball and trying to kickstart some life in the team. Heck, even when Sticks was injured and everything was on Potts, who was the guy sitting on the bench by himself during a performance drought? It was Potts. Sticks was up hobbling around on crutches basically vaulting across the side lines talking to everyone and trying to rally the troops.

That to me says a lot about the two quarterbacks. Potts looks better on paper. Sticks is a better leader. It may be that Potts has more talent. However, if he wants to LEAD the team, he’s got to become more selfless and ACT when he doesn’t feel like acting. Just like he did in the bowl game when Sticks went in. He sulked for a minute, but then he came back to the front of the lines and started talking to the players. Do more of that, and for PETE’S SAKE, STOP THROWING OFF YOUR BACK FOOT!!!, and Potts, you will have my support.

by silver_ on Jul 28, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every time Potts throws off his back foot.....

a baby seal dies.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is some super funky evolution at work there

I’d like to see Charles Darwin make some sense of THAT.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even Darwin didn't agree with the theory he came up with.

" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Jul 31, 2010 6:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Troy averaged 46% runs during NB's tenure

If we apply that percentage to our total number of plays since 2004 that would average 12 more runs per game. This would mean trading our 7 yard per pass average for 5 yard per run (Batch’s average) so the overall effect would be minimal. By throwing in more QB runs when all the receivers are running deep that could go up. The bigger impact may be to the goal of running 100 plays per game.

by RedRaider78 on Jul 28, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.

And I wrote an article about that a few months ago.

By the way, I mixed my terminology above. I meant to write:

Brown’s Troy offenses in 2008 and 2009 generated a 54/46 run/pass pass/run ratio. Under Leach, in both 2008 and 2009, Texas Tech’s run/pass pass/run ratio was 67/32.

"This time it's different."

by LondonRaider on Jul 28, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Make that

Under Leach, in both 2008 and 2009, Texas Tech’s run/pass pass/run ratio was 6768/32. Yeesh.

"This time it's different."

by LondonRaider on Jul 28, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

The run sets up the pass...

and the pass sets up the run. I don’t think there’s any set ratio that if you do X% of passing and Y% of running that you will win. It’s all about ball distribution, and getting the ball in your playmaker’s hands. Tech has alot of playmakers that can run and catch the ball. I think we’re going to be alright.

Plus, last I checked Troy outgained Tech last year in total yardage while running the ball more (and Baron/Jeffer/Stevens are probably all just a little better than the RB’s at Troy).

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Run / Pass

The fun of the Red Raiders in person (vs TV) is that based on the defensive alignment you could almost see the run about three seconds before the snap of the ball, especiall in red zone situations. Its almost like taking candy from a baby.

by Gus Mitchem on Jul 28, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

1. Pass ration will be fine, your correct its just a lazy story for the national media
2. Whitlock is the man, has been for quite a few years now. He will do great and take on the double team no matter where he lines up.
3. QB Evalution Tubbs is doing fine giving both guys a fair shake and will eventually start Sticks, with Potts repping 30-40 % in practice
4. Yes I think there was an issue with the defense, definitly second class under the captian! Look how happy these young men are for change, they are so excited they are going to squash a few ponies come Sept
5. The apolgy was a great move – Shows that Tubbs is concerned about the players as individuals and young men with pride in their own reputation. They didnt ask to be drug through the mess on ESPN

by Gus Mitchem on Jul 28, 2010 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope 'ponies' is metaphorical?

Ha ha! I hope they squash some ponies and then some Bevos and some Aggies and dominate the opposition this season.

by jef on Jul 28, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Playoffs

Sorry but I agree with Hancock, protecting the value of the regular season is very important. Thas why evey game is exciting, thats why this sport can turn on a Thursday night game in Provo, or Beaverton that excitment is rare in modern day sports. The playoff hype is largley greated by the TV networks trying to grow the gen pop fan base and basically turn our sport into Saturays NFL. The common fan doesnt want to set through the regualar season and watch every game, but sorry I do !

by Gus Mitchem on Jul 28, 2010 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

And the playoff system is not foolproof either. What if a 11-1 team losses in a play off to a 7-6 team because the 11-1 team had an off day and the 7-6 team was just lucky on that day and would lose its next game. Does that mean all of the hard work by the 11-1 team does not deserve any credit at all because it has lost that 1 game on a bad day to a decidedly inferior opponent? So, I think the arguments for and against playoffs are just as strong and by no means is it a superior system, just a different one. The controversies will remain regardless (look at the NCAA basketball Big Dance: every year there is a controversy on who gets invited and who does not, especially for those teams that are on the bubble). Also, in a playoff, will a 12-0 Boise deserve a higher ranking (and hence easier schedule) than a 8-4 Georgia for example that has come through one of the toughest leagues in the country? So I am not entirely sold on the playoff system either.

by jef on Jul 28, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's the "Cinderella Story" scenario

Everybody likes a Cinderella Story in sports. The Mavericks had a best team in the NBA a few years back & lost in the 1st round of the playoffs. They should have been better prepared. Undefeated teams in college football lose in the conference championship game or the BCS bowl game they go to all the time. I would love a 24 team playoff over 5 weeks. Seeds 1-8 get a bye the 1st week while seeds 9-16 host seeds 17-24 in their home stadium. Week 2 games are held in the home stadiums of the top 8 teams. To be a Cinderella, you need to win either once or twice on the road in front of a hostile crowd to move on the the 4 neutral site games week 3.

What kills the regular seasons in basketball, baseball and hockey is the number of games. Over 100 each per season. As long as college football teams are playing 12 of 52 weeks a year, those 12 games will all still mean something.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Another problem with the playoff system is that each year is a unique situation. Some years its clear other years there is three or four teams and “the system” would have to be adaptable and you know in our contractal world that would never happen.

by Gus Mitchem on Jul 28, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

So why don't we just give the '07 Pats the title then?...

Oh wait, that’s right, it’s cause the NFL has the right system in place to determine a real champion.

Lets not forget, the name of a national championship for FBS football is a mythical national championship, because there’s no playoff system to determine a real national champion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythical_national_championship

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pats

We dont give the SB to the pats because the NFL is all about getting into the playoffs, get the general public interested and then put on the most over hyped game in all of the world, shut down a host city for a full week, sell multi-million dollar TV ads and declare an unofficial national holiday that most years becomes about corporations selling products.

College football is all about the season, the regional rivalries and brother vs brother hatred.

So out of the last four or five years did the BCS miss? Do you think that Boisie State could have had a shot against Alabama? The last guy to get screwed was Tubbs.

by Gus Mitchem on Jul 28, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm saying that anything that's determined by humans will be flawed...

and who participates in the BCS is largely determined by human voters. Why not have a playoff system to determine a real national champion instead of a voter system that determines a “mythical” champion.

In the last 5 years, the team that was #2 in the BCS win the championship 4 times. That right there shows you it’s flawed. If a #2 can win it, then who’s to say a #3 or even a #8 shouldn’t have a chance?

I agree with you that rivalries are what make college football great, but there’s no doubt that schools like Tech would be helped out tremendously by a playoff system.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

And...

I think that a playoff system can be just as profitable as the current bowl system.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed that too. Freudian slip of some sort perhaps? Subconcious yearning for the captain??

by pcrawttu on Jul 28, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. Run/Pass ratio will be fine. Tuberville is probably tired of answering the question about as much as I am hearing it. The passing game will be just fine and most will not even notice the differences.
2. QB’s. This is a true competition and TT has played this thing very well by not being bias towards any one player. SS certainly seems like he keeps his game face on at all times and he’ll beat. In either case I just want what works best for this team as both these guys are great athletes.
3. Whitlock is NFL bound. This guy will play lights out this season no matter where he lines up. I picture him having a Zach Thomas mentality on the field.
4. Tech’s defense has always had issues. Ruffin made it work in the last 2 years but it always seemed like it was an after thought behind the offense. I like the idea of promoting this side of the ball under Willis and Tuberville. Tech needs a dual threat on the field and we can win games with a solid defense when we suffer offensive injuries such as last season. This side of the ball wasn’t completely neglected as we did pretty damn good under Ruffin but I expect a much greater sense of attacking the ball and forcing turnovers in this next chapter.
5. Apologizing for the meham that took place I completely agree with. Our school looked like a bunch of idiots between Leach’s contract and the shed. The drama that took place in the last 2 years would make an excellent movie. I just want an offseason that doesn’t involve major disruptions to this teams dynamics. Tuberville is a class act from all indications and I feel like we are in good hands. This guy has a great attitude and work ethic that will bring top shelf recruits to Lubbock.

0.(Beebe) I have say it still makes me sick to my stomach hearing Beebe talk about how unequal distribution has to do with fair market value. He’s trying to put logic to favoritism. I just want this league to collapse and for Tech to move on. I like playing rivals every year but I feel like we got screwed. If by chance we succeed I hope qualifying conferences come calling the next time this weak conference blows up. Tech is every bit as valuable as TAMU. Beebe is now working for UT and he looks like a fool and it will only get worse as this league moves along. The good thing is I believe in karma and we’ll see how this thing ends.

"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach

by Raider1992 on Jul 28, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Beebe is not qualified for this job

I wonder why the other schools are not clamoring for a dismissal of Beebe. I think we would have still been the Big XII, had he been more proactive. I mean how can someone so useless be the leader major BCS conference is beyond me.

by jef on Jul 28, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then Big 12 Commisioner is the perfect job for Beebe

Because the commisioner doesn’t lead the Big 12, Deloss Dodds does.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would take BEebe over hance.....

just sayin

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Jul 28, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

How bout over Gerald?????

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least Hance...

can make cognitive thoughts (even if they are stupid at times).

Beebe can’t even sneeze, piss, fart, or breath without first asking DeLoss Dodds if he can and how he should carry out the action….

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

and hance does not have a "dallas hotline"?

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Jul 28, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

but you gotta admit, being Dan Beebe right now has to be more embarrassing than being Kent Hance (I don’t hold either very high in my book, but Hance not hold words back and saying what he thought about the re-alignment gave him a point in my book).

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. This site has been talking about run/pass ratio from the moment the OC was named, we are going to see maybe 5 or 6 more runs per game. Going to the specific comments most recently ‘quoted’ from the HC in which a phrase was taken from the paragraph of words that consituted his reply-read his reply…it finished with words to the effect that we would throw a hundred if we are playing a team that does not defend the pass…but let’s be sure to wring our hands again at the next ‘quote.’

2. QB position is pretty important to an offense. But so is center, or guard, etc. Every spot has guys vying to play. Coaches will decide and fans and media will talk about it, second guess it, find ways to justify a preference. I think it mostly much ado about little. We are soooo deep at qb. Regarding the controversy, it is media driven. Create the thought, interview the people involved, pick out words that support the idea….yawn. Having more than one player vy for a spot is football.

3. I think Whitlock is more a natural NT, he has the nice wrestly/leverage background to go with his quickness and strength. I think he is going to like it…and we will also.

4. That the HC chose to enlist the support of the players first when he came on campus is astute…very smart and indeed even genius in a humble kind of way. He speaks often of this being their team, the player’s team, the fan’s team, almost anyone’s but his-I believe because he wants the focus on the team more than himself…he knows he is going to get more than enough focus. Again it ties in with being valued and validated as contributors to a team effort. Using an apology is a way to convey the thought, that is clever, it gives an opportunity to exhibit sincerity and humility to a bunch of people who had been pushed aside when they should have been the focus. I had read this earlier, don’t remember when or where.

5. The prespective being offered by the HC is dead on the mark regarding lifiting the esteem of the defense. Prior coach often spoke to all sides of the ball, but he rarely spoke to the defense in the same manner in which he did the offense. That is pretty significant if you are a defensive coach or player in a team sport…everyone wants to be valued and validated as a contributor. IMHO, the concept of speaking to both or to the team as such is more the balance that I hear the HC referencing in some of his words.

Bonus: I really do not give ten cents for any deragatory comment towards Beebe from me. What is he supposed to say ? I think he is playing his role, his part in a badly written drama. As far as 10 team vs 12 team, I like the PR (and pay off) that comes with a play-off game. I have zero value for a 16 team conference that is spread to either coast and does make it more difficult for alumni and families to travel to see the players…zero value. I think it would hurt TTU’s recruiting, or any team’s other than the top 10% programs.

My Bonus Question: Anyone noticing that the qb’s like the new coaching with all the detail on what they are being evaluated against in the light of a prior comment by either Potts or Sheffield, I think it was Potts, from an earlier interview in which the qb was quoted saying something like…it was more us coaching ourselves?

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by TallMike on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Bonus Question

Seems to be true for most all the positions. The strenght / conditioning video posted on the official site also mentioned that there wasnt even a nutrition program, seems to was a real pirate ship after all come and go and do as you please

by Gus Mitchem on Jul 28, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. We are not going to run a different offense and everyone knows it. We will run more but in the same offense, possibly with a more running focused formation or blocking scheme at some point. We will still pass more than run. The national pundits are morons and can’t listen. They probably don’t want to, and just want to follow the storyline presetup by the man.

2. No reason they have to be best friends and Sticks will win the job!

3. Whitlock will have a better than average senior year and go on to be drafted in the third round.

4. The no confidence on defense thing is just coach speak. Which is fine I guess. Of course the leaders had confidence. That being said, there is more of a focus on defense now and a more aggressive scheme. I can’t tell you how happy this makes me. Its hard to look confident when you have to play 8 yards off a receiver on a 3rd and 3. I think the D will have some swagger this year. They will get burned sometimes but thats football. However, when we need that stop, we are going to be more likely to get it now. If that doesn’t happen then I’m very confused about Tubs and Willis.

5. Tubs is a class act and although I don’t require some apology for what happened from Tubs if I’m a player, it helps build trust. Tubs knows what he is doing with Team and Fan chemistry. Now all he has to do is win.

by logan5555 on Jul 28, 2010 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I am a Potts basher......

Because my eyes saw the worst qb effort at tech in 15 years against Baylor? Fine, I can live with that. Potts is a tough kid, but never recovered after ut and Houston. If he is our starter, tubs seat will be hot quickly.
I saw sticks have a ho hum game for him in Lincoln, but one that would have been a major nailbiter had Potts been playing. Sticks evaded suh and company with ease until the injury. Passion level on this point for me is 10 out of 10.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 12:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I can't speak for other Sticks fans

But my passion is based more on not wanting to go through another season watching Tech’s Ferrari offense sputter & belch like a 12 year old Volkswagon Rabbit (I had a few Rabbits in my 20’s and boy do they sputter & belch burnt oil). There are a half dozen guys walking around who stepped into the role of Air Raid QB over the years and the offense kept clicking every year. A whole decade of pretty consistent play at the QB position. That all stopped last year. Was it because of the Sergio Kindle hit week 3? Was Potts gun shy after that game? Maybe, but my role here is not to be the team shrink. I’m a fan. A passionate fan. I want the most effective player starting at QB. Especially at QB when you have a spread offense that requires active direction from the QB. That’s why the idea of another year with Taylor Potts as the starter gets me riled up. This site is a place to share our thoughts on Texas Tech football. If these thoughts are off base because the players are all 20 year old kids, we aren’t going to have a whole lot left to talk about. Maybe the coaches? And the administration of course.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The administration is the gift that keeps on giving...

IMWTx

"We thought we were too good to play Texas Effin' A&M" -Leach et al

by imisswesttexas on Jul 28, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Consider Harrell

The thought came to mind that if you consider Harrell’s path to success, it wasn’t all roses from the moment he started. The Mizzou game from ‘07 (I think) with all of the damn INT’s for TD and we were down 21 before you could mix the wiskey in your softdrink of choice is up there as one of my worst memories.
Now I’m not suggesting that Potts is Harrell 2.0 or anything. But the point is he deserves the oppty to respond to a less than ideal season. I don’t think it is a fair basis to say b/c he sucked at times last year that he’ll certainly suck this year.

We should give both the benefit of the doubt until proven based on play on the field THIS year.

IMWTx

"We thought we were too good to play Texas Effin' A&M" -Leach et al

by imisswesttexas on Jul 28, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he did. You're right about that and it's a good point.

But he continued to improve the following season with a great 2008. That is my point. Just hoping last year is a stepping stone to what we will see this year from either player.

IMWTx

"We thought we were too good to play Texas Effin' A&M" -Leach et al

by imisswesttexas on Jul 29, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

So if both Potts and Sheffield have their issues, why is it that Potts deserves a chance to bounce back but Sheffield doesnt?

by techtom4 on Jul 28, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point

I’m not suggesting he doesn’t. Sorry if it came across that way. My expectation would be to give them equal reps in fall camp and let the best man win. I’m behind either guy and I like them both…

IMWTx

"We thought we were too good to play Texas Effin' A&M" -Leach et al

by imisswesttexas on Jul 29, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

you for got about Zebbie

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Jul 28, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heartless....

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Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Jul 31, 2010 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stache and Sticks......can't we all just get along.....er...move on.....aw screw it

Great discussions from the fan base on who should be the starter based on last year’s performances……LAST YEAR…..

A lot has, uh, happend since THEN…..let all just hide, watch and pull for the guy who gets the ball from center, while forever holding one’s breath.

I just want TECH to beat the fuck outta Texas.

"There's going to be ups and downs but you have to enjoy the battle." Mike Leach

by blackbeard on Jul 28, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

The last line of Blackbeard's post won me over ha

I dont know about "hatcchie or Midlothian, I can’t seem to get out of Corsicana and Navarro Mills. Where you at?

by RdrPwr on Jul 29, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

So a quick question for the group....has anyone else looked at the new expansion season tix for $149?

I know they are in the end zone, but will I need a Sherpa or oxygen? I am seriously thinking about these, as I have promised my son going to the UT game and it is the same price to get a UT ticket or these season tickets.

"Life is short, tell me how you really feel"- me

by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

They're no worse than sitting in the upper section anywhere else in the stadium.

They’re just located at the corner of the endzone, and that’s why they’re cheaper.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

My parents sat up there last year for the A&M debacle. They said the view was great except that you can’t see the jumbotron from most of the seats b/c they are behind it. But hey for 150 a season its still a deal.

And the thing about Tech’s stadium that is different than many of the SEC stadiums and A&M is that the seats are at a lower grade. In other words there seems to be less of a slant to me. So we have a flatter wider bowl than many teams have. Our bottom section has 34 rows or something and theirs has 24. Then they stack upper decks on top that are all kind of on top of each other. Ours just goes back further. I could be wrong on this but it seems that is the case. I’d like to know the distance to the field of the second deck at Kyle and at Tech. I bet they are about the same distance but there’s is higher and ours is wider.

by logan5555 on Jul 28, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said they're no worse than...

Meaning they’re not ideal, but they’re no worse than the rest of the upper deck.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have one of the lowest looking stadiums I've ever been in

I think the lower bowl being dug out of the ground gives it that appearance. But compared to the upper deck at College Station or even TCU, the highest seats in Jones Stadium are pretty good seats. Heck, the luxury suites & club seats are all at the very top of the stadium. If it’s good enough for the West Texas swells, it should be fine for you & your kid.

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Going to A&M for a game sucks.....

that stadium is the poorest design possible….and the line for coke and sprite are too long and you have to drink straight 7 because of that.

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by oldschoolraider on Jul 28, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

amen brother!

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by Raider1992 on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

is the reason we cant have a civil debate on The Stache vs. Sticks…

  • Stache supporters acknowledge his shortcomings
  • Sticks supporters think Sticks can do no wrong
  • Stache supporters allow for Sticks’ injury in the Neb & OSU game
  • Sticks supporters dont make any such acommodations for the massive concussion Potts suffered (he had to be rescued from a concussion. way to go guys)
  • Stache supporters look to to his good games and the numbers he put up in them
  • Sticks supporters cling to etherial criteria like “teams playing for him”, etc.
  • Stache supporters have not bashed the other guy in any way
  • Sticks supporters sound like broken records, “Potts throws off his back foot”, blah blah blah
  • Stache supporters will support the qb that gets the nod from Katfish Jesus
  • Sticks supporters will rend their clothes and wail unconsolably if their guy doesnt win the job

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 28, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

The reason

The reason these varying standards occur is because Sticks has the leadership quality and excitement people want. Potts doesn’t. Sticks does have better stats as well, but the reason people feel the way they do about the items you list above is the “it” factor. And if someone wants to explain to me that Potts has more “it” factor that Sticks, well I really don’t get that.

by logan5555 on Jul 28, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly think this whole Potts v Sticks issue would go away if just one Sticks supporter would admit something negative about him.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 28, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again

if you wanna argue a specific point…..like IT factor. Then fine. Lets do that.

Just someone, please! lets not take it as a GIVEN and procede from there. Who is to say that Potts could not develop said factor.

To say sticks has an IT factor and THAT is why Potts is so unmercifully and biasedly bashed is absurd.

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 28, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just watched several interviews with both on FSSW

Potts needs to take up coffee drinking in a big way. There is such a thing as charisma. Tuberville even mentioned Sheffield’s charisma in his interview. Sticks has charisma & Potts looks lost most of the time. Which type makes a better leader?

by mbrown603 on Jul 28, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I watched the replay of the Alamo bowl

And for the life of me cant see why anyone would think Potts should be the starter. Not only does Sticks make better throws, the team plays with fire and has fun. I will say that no matter who starts, we could very well have the best backup QB in the country though.

by RdrPwr on Jul 29, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Youre making excuses

for having a double standard.

Consequently we cant have an honest debate after that.

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 28, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look, I’m not debating on the various games or who stats said what. All I’m doing is explaining why the Sticks supporters refuse to give leway to Potts. Its because of the “it” factor. When Sticks came in the NM game or the BU game, and yes even the OSU game (where yeah he didn’t play that well but yes he shouldn’t have been playing b/c of his foot) it was really exciting. You could see people start to work harder. And remember Sticks would have scored on his second drive had Nancy James not dropped a pass in the endzone (i think it was his second drive).

Anyways, my point is not that Sticks doesn’t screw up, he doesn. My point is not that Sticks didn’t have a bad game, he did when his foot was hurt. My point is that Sticks gives us that good ol’ fashion Leach feeling that we can win at any time. With Sticks I feel that we could put up 4 TD’s in the 4th quarter if we had to. With Potts I don’t get that feeling at all. Now maybe we all get this feeling b/c of actual events, and maybe sometimes those actual events contradict this. I just know that I’ve never seen Potts throw a bomb down the sideline that Lyle Leong dropped (i think it was him) for about a 35 yard gain, and then run down the sideline to pick that receiver up and pat him on the helmet and say lets do it again. Because Sticks did that in a game last year and it was awesome. The whole team sees that. Sticks brings excitement.

I’ve said it before and I will say it again, Potts = Dirk. When it comes down to the clutch, uh oh.

by logan5555 on Jul 28, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again with the "he only has bad games when he's hurt" spiel

Potts had not one but two concussions last year too. How come Sticks supporters can use the he was hurt card to get out but Potts fans can’t?

Point is, both QB’s were hurt last year, and therefore their performances should be thrown out when deciding who will start this year.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 29, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats a LOT of typing

to basically just say, “I like Sticks and Im gonna hold my breath until everyone agrees with me”

Way to go. Very Mature.

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 29, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then
Sticks gives us that good ol’ fashion Leach feeling

…why didnt Leach himself name him the starter. There IS a lack of congruity to your logic.

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 29, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stache supporters acknowledge his shortcomings

They obviously don’t, or else they would clearly be able to see that Sticks is the better choice.

Sticks supporters think Sticks can do no wrong

This is ridiculous. I will be the first to admit that Sticks made a few poor decisions last season. However, Potts made more than a few poor decisions…way more. He was also extremely unaccurate. And has next to NO mobility. And continually makes the same mistakes over and over again. INT’s are going to happen with any QB. The fact that Sheffield had a few of them cannot be the sole reason that he should not undoubtedly start over Potts. If the only thing Potts ever did wrong was throw the occasional INT, I would be fine with him starting. This is clearly not the case, but with Sheffield it is.

Stache supporters look to to his good games and the numbers he put up in them

I think 739 yards of total offense against K-state speaks for itself. As does rescuing the team from what looked like was going to become one of the most humiliating losses in Texas Tech football history to UNM. As does the ass-whoopin the team put on NEB, largely because sticks was able to avoid sacks on several plays to keep drives going, something Potts could never dream of doing. Not everything is about numbers all the time though. Would anyone on this site honestly refute that Sheffield is not the more versatile/athletic QB?

by techtom4 on Jul 28, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why bother having dialogue if you will...

Just recap it in your own delusional way….good talk Russ

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by oldschoolraider on Jul 29, 2010 8:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good Questions..

1. Not this year…the ratio will be reduced next year and more so the third year if Tubbs is still at Tech.
2. One thing I notice in all the videos was more smiles on the face of Sticks and less so with Taylor. Many of the shots showed a Potts clearly uncomfortable with his role. Having said that, I agree with Tuberville’s approach that the qb that wins the evaluation will start. Tubbs also stated that he won’t alternate qbs, but will make a change to up-tempo the offense if the need exists.
3. I am not sure. He has two gap responsibility and it depends on how the inside lb’s back him up.
4. I believe under Leach, the defense was expected to "hold its own" and the offense was expected to excel. Under Tubbs the defense expectations are higher. I think the D.C. Willis will have a great impact. The question will the players step up.
5. I believe as a new hire, he apologized to the players on the behalf of the college which I think is a class act

"It's time to get down to serious business." Tuberville

by jdhud on Jul 28, 2010 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, I didn't think I was going to stir up all of this.

After reading everything, I’m not sure I’ve reached a conclusion, but I think there are some interesting things in play here.

1. There is so much that goes into making a decision about a player, in particular a quarterback. We really don’t know what these guys are like, but what if Sheffield just goofed off for three years and didn’t really put any time into being a good quarterback? Circumstances changed and he got his opportunity. I firmly believe that there’s a really good reason that Leach chose Potts last year and went back to that well so many times. We may not know ever know those reasons, but he did. That’s not to say that it don’t think that Leach didn’t get fed up with Potts (see the game that Doege started), but he went back to Potts for a reason.

2. I find it interesting how people have different perceptions about how the players acted in interviews. Completely fascinating that my initial perception is completely different that someone else’s perceptions. I think that’s a good thing for DTN.

3. Ultimately, I still think that both Potts and Sheffield will play this year and I hope like hell we cheer them both. I think that those that are defending Potts and I’ve defended him before as well is that although Sheffield played lights out, those sorts of numbers typically don’t hold up for an entire season. Even for C. McCoy, who had an unbelievable 2008 (76% completion; 34 TD’s 8 INT’s). I remember the guys at Football Outsiders saying that this was a statistical anomaly and that he would come back down to earth in 2009 (70%; 27 TD’s 12 INT’s) and he did. I think Sheffield, as awesome as he was, just doesn’t keep up at the pace that he did (177 QB Rating). It was a terrific pace, but he’s likely to come back down to earth. Even Harrell had to progress over his three years (145 QB Rating; 157 QB Rating; 160 QB Rating) and as good as he was, he was never going to get there.

4. I too get tired of the argument that Potts throws too much off his back foot. Harrell threw off his back foot and if you were to carefully look at every quarterback, pitcher, or any other athlete, they’re going to have flaws in their games. I thought that Sheffield’s comments about how the prior staff maybe wasn’t as technical with the finer points of playing the position. Perhaps Leach was more about how to read defenses and less about having the correct mechanics. Maybe OC Brown will do both. What if some minor adjustment helps Potts solve that issue of throwing off his back foot when under pressure? Honestly, I don’t know and this will be the most interesting thing about the spring practices, is who wins this battle.

As stated above, I hope the best man wins because as much as I may cheer for a certain player, I still cheer for the laundry and whoever is on the field.

Go Raiders . . .
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by Seth C on Jul 28, 2010 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Lotsa Logic

I have to agree with you, Seth. Although I count myself as a Stache supporter, I have to imagine that most of us Stache supporters do so with logic an open mind. Thats why Sticks deserves a shot under a new regime. We just think Potts is the better choice and should win the job. No one is threatening armed insurrection if we dont get our way. I just dont think Stache supporters are as ardent as Sticks supporters are at it.

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 29, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stache...Sticks...

Why can’t we just support Tech? I know that most of what I’ve said was directed at Sticks people, but that’s because I feel like they’re the only ones that are trashing the ones on the other side of the issue. I stand firmly on the fence at this time, and support whoever’s on the field taking snaps in fall.

Sticks was the better of the two last year under Leach, and if Leach was still here then I think Sticks’ touch and finesse with the ball would win him the spot. However, there’s a new posse in town, and I think it’s way too early to write either of them off for the starting spot.

by TheScarletandTheBlack on Jul 29, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

From

my perspective those are debates im willing to have. MOST, if not ALL Stache supporters are willing to let the better man take the field. The problem is the same cannot be said (I generalize) of the other camp.

If it needs to be said, then I will say it. I will support the man Tubbs chooses and there is no looking back.

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by Tortilla Pirate on Jul 29, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

A Sethism..
I still cheer for the laundry

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by bmaxw on Jul 28, 2010 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

We may have found the new DTN tagline!

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by G. Kevin on Jul 28, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

T-shirt!

DTN, quality laundry since 2009! (when the shirts were first made)

by logan5555 on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know....

we really need to start a list of Sethisms.

FORZA ROSSI

by bmaxw on Jul 29, 2010 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Questions

1. Run or pass, we will see a lot of points against most everyone.

2. There seems to be a lot of bickering going on here about who should be or will be the best QB for Tech this year. I leave it up to the coaches who see them every day and get a feel as to whom is better qualified to be the leader come September. Both can motivate the team, just in a different way. So, let Tubs, Brown & co. do the choosing and let us all cheer on the one who is placed at the helm of what could be a very good offense this year.

3. Whitlock will be the most solid defender again. He will have his share of tackles and sacks, but he is in the middle, so his numbers may not jump out at anyone.

4. I don’t think the defense had an inferiority complex. They knew the emphasis was on offense under Leach, so they knew they had to perform to allow that offense to shine its brightest. Ruff wanted to make some changes but just did not have the type talent he needed. We may still not have it, but I am sure Willis will do well with what he has by making (already made) the needed moves to get the best athletes where he needs them.

5. Apologizing for the previous happenings may or may not have been necessary, but it is done. I personally don’t see where it could have gotten him much since he had nothing to do with any of the happenings. What was needed, and was given, was a direction: “We are going to win a championship.” (or something like that) With that statement, this regime made it clear what they want and I think the team, after all it had been through, was ready to go down that road.

Bonus.
A. Sheffield was right on: different coaches, different philosophies.
B. Playoffs or not: Pros & cons on both sides, BUT every other sports entity, high school, college or pro, has a successful playoff system where a clear cut champion is crowned. I don’t care who wins, they are the champs, period.
C. Big-XII (soon-to-be-X): Beebe is not seeing the hole picture. I guess those blinders Dodds gave him are working. I do hope the conference survives and strengthens, somehow, but to totally ignore the inequities is not very intelligent. He knows who will get the dough now and for the foreseeable future, and he also knows how debilitating a UT network can prevent the rest of the conference from matching them in competition for just about everything. I hate to think what will happen, but it is kind of like passing: there are three things that can happen, and two are bad.

TTpilk Psalm 117:
1 ¶ O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.
2 For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.

by TTpilk645 on Jul 28, 2010 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

My eyes hurt.

That was a lot to read.

Good debate everybody.

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Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

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