DTN Daily Diatribe | Texas Tech News, Notes and Links | 2011-11-02
by Seth C on Nov 2, 2011 7:23 AM CDT
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I hope that yesterday's post was somewhat therapeutic. I don't know that it was, but I hope that it was. We'll get to some game things tomorrow, but as I said yesterday, I had gone almost a year and a half without talking about Adam James and ignoring the topic altogether. That didn't seem to work so I thought that trying to have a reasoned discussion about the issues was something that would be helpful.
ODDS AND ENDS
The Sports GIFs Of October: Terrible Athletes, And The Instruction Manuals They Necessitate - SBNation.com
Absolutely love these.
The Forde-Yard Dash: Pat joins the Yahoo! party - College Football - Rivals.com
Interesting in that Pat Forde has moved to Yahoo! Sports. Remember that Forde (I think) noted the problems with the Longhorn Network and ESPN relationship earlier this year:
The Longhorns' steady diet of me-first has left them bloated and indifferent to the feelings of their peers. You can't blame athletic director DeLoss Dodds for capitalizing on his program's abundant successes and rampant popularity, but there has to be some concern for everyone else.
Rubbing your superiority in their faces has been a factor in the departure of 25 percent of the Big 12 over the past year-plus. (And we still don't know for sure what Missouri, itself a fickle and flirtatious corporate partner for over a year, intends to do.) If everyone keeps leaving you, don't you eventually have to look in the mirror and acknowledge that you're part of the problem?
And now, he's no longer employed by ESPN.
LADY RAIDER VOLLEY BALL
Red Raiders take on No. 18 Aggies for final time in conference - The Daily Toreador: Sports and Red Raiders Return to Action at Texas A&M - Texas Tech Red Raiders Official Athletic Site
Good luck ladies!
LADY RAIDER SOCCER
Red Raiders All Over All-Big 12 Teams - Texas Tech Red Raiders Official Athletic Site
Congrats:
Freshman defender Jaelene Hinkle was a unanimous selection on the All-Big 12 Newcomer Teams and goalkeeper Victoria Esson also made the squad, joining fellow Red Raider Taylor Lytle when the All-Big 12 Teams were named by the conference on Monday night.
LADY RAIDER BASKETBALL
Scout.com: It's Lady Raider Time!
TEXAS TECH BASEBALL
Texas Tech Names Tim Tadlock Associate Head Baseball Coach - Texas Tech Red Raiders Official Athletic Site and Red Raider Baseball Blog and Tech hires Tadlock from Oklahoma baseball program | Red Raiders and Former Red Raider named associate head baseball coach - The Daily Toreador: Sports
It's officially official as Texas Tech named OU recruiting coordinator Tim Tadlock, associate head coach at Texas Tech. Here's Tadlock from the LAJ article:
"I think everybody wants a challenge in life," said Tadlock, who played at Tech during the 1990 and 1991 seasons. "I want to grow every day and get better. I just feel like there’s really a lot of room for growth here and we’re ready to take off.
"More than anything else one reason (for the move) is (head coach Dan) Spencer and (athletic director) Kirby Hocutt reaching out and asking me to come back, meant a lot. It’s easy to see that Kirby is trying to change the culture out here in Lubbock and within the athletic department."
Men's basketball and football links are after the jump.
TEXAS TECH BASKETBALL
Texas Tech Basketball Exhibitions Free To Public - Texas Tech Red Raiders Official Athletic Site
If you want to get a jump on seeing some Texas Tech basketball, the men's and women's teams will be playing exhibitions with no admission charge:
The first men's exhibition is scheduled for Thurs. Nov. 3 at 7 p.m. against Southwestern Oklahoma, and the first home women's exhibition is set for Nov. 6 against Metro State at 2 p.m. The men's team will also play host to Our Lady of the Lake on Saturday Nov. 5 at 7 p.m. in an exhibition game.
Gillispie lauds diverse talents of assistant coaching staff | Red Raiders
Lots of good quotes here about the coaching staff that head coach Billy Gillispie has hired. Up first, Chris Walker:
"He wants to be the lead guy on academics, the lead guy on scouting, the lead guy on recruiting," Gillispie said. "Not at the expense of others, but because he wants to be involved in everything, and he has so much energy and passion for it. Our philosophies have been 100 percent (in sync)."
Jeff Kidder:
"He's the most tireless junior-college recruiter I've ever seen," Gillispie said of Kidder. "I mean he goes after it. That's no disrespect to anybody else, but he's had a great deal of success."
Bubba Jennings:
"He's so important to our success," Gillispie said. "There's so many different people you come across in your lifetime, in every different profession, and every single time you talk to them, you know they have a great deal of wisdom. And how do you define wisdom? It's a hard word to describe, but you know it when you see it. Bubba has a great deal of wisdom.
"He's great with the players, and they have a great deal of confidence in him. When I get tough on them, they go to (Jennings), and he's able to say the right word at the right time. I guess that's what wisdom is."
TEXAS TECH FOOTBALL
Red Raiders football notebook: Getting well | Red Raiders and Notebook: Tuberville talks Tech CB situation, preparation for Longhorns - The Daily Toreador: Sports
Pretty interesting movement in the Texas Tech secondary, from the LAJ:
At the end of Tuesday’s practice, Neboh and Jarvis Phillips were working as a cornerback tandem and Derrick Mays was paired with Sawyer Vest in another. Recently converted wide receiver Shawn Corker also has been discussed as a potential starting candidate this week.
Tech coach Tommy Tuberville said the staff briefly considered giving inside receiver Cornelius Douglas time again at cornerback. Douglas was a two-way player last season, filling in at times for a few snaps at cornerback.
Flannel makes most of shot vs. ISU | Red Raiders
Nice story on SS Jared Flannel, who has been an excellent special teams play, is now getting his shot at strong safety with Terrance Bullitt out for a couple of games. Here's Flannel:
"You’ve got to be ready at all times and take advantage of every opportunity you’ve got," Flannel said. "Right now, I probably have the opportunity so I’m staying focused like I have been, and now that I’ve got it, going out there and giving everything I have, sacrificing for the team."
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Thanks Seth................for putting up with us.
Yesterday’s viaral thread was somewhat theraputic, but if nothing else it lets a good number of us vent. Venting sometimes clears the mind to be able to think about other things.
One of the things that keeps haunting me is the University’s lack of acknowledgement of the Leach era. Although I understand the “feelings” side of things between the admin and Leach, I wonder about the kids that played during that time. On occasion I have had the previlege of attending the Hall of Fame/Honor banquet. I have seen that nearly all of the former coaches have been inducted into the Hal of Honor. I see throughout the years that there are various reunions for teams of a particular coach. For example last week was the reunion for the teams that played for JT King. I believe that the teams that played for Spike will have theirs during the OSU game, but I may be mistaken.
So I just wonder what is to become of the teams that played for Leach? Will they just have to meet at the mall? Will they just have to email and text about “their days”?
Perhaps time heals all wounds, but I think the University needs to lead in this regard and at least show credit where credit is due.
By the way, can’t wait for roundball.
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
I'll echo the thanks to Seth on allowing and cultivating the discourse in general.
Lots of different people, lots of different dispositions.
In regard to honoring Leach/his teams, it is another of the unanticipated results that the admin is dealing with as a result of their poor decision making. It will happen eventually, because it is in the best interest of the football program to showcase that success. In meantime, there are lawsuits and I am certain all legal advise points to not honoring the man you are accusing of abuse. That’s their story and they are sticking to it, so to speak. Once the law suits are gone I would suspect that his legacy will begin to creep into view on campus. No fanfare probably, because Hance and co will likely still be around at that time, but the stone wall will likely slowly begin to come down at that point. It is unfortunate.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
If you have not had a chance to hear the Leach interview with Torres after the OU victory on cbssports, you need to.
I heared it live, and Leach was so proud of Torres and Doege. His enthusiasm was contagioius, and it was we and we and we and more Tech. I think it was somewhat theraputic for even Leach.
I wrote a letter to Hance, Bailey and Holcutt asking them to please put this to bed. I even gave them the link to cbssports so they could listen to it. Of course, I have had not response except from Joe Parker, who I think is the associate AD, who asked me to hand in there.
Time to start thinking about wrestling some steers.
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
I haven't yet, I'll have to listen to that.
It is a shame that this has to run it’s course this way, but life goes on.
I’ll be at the UT game in the second row on the 20 yard line – surrounded by horns. Hoping like crazy that the team shows up. My longhorn friends tailgate spot is only a block from the Tech lot so I plan on dropping in for a meet and greet. After a michelada or two and few toddies, of course.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
Leach interview
hey do you know where i can listen to that? is there a link?
"Running in place will never get you the same results as running from a lion."
- most interesting man in the world
I can barley get on this site, but its on cbssports.com with Leach and Torress.
Leach is on every Saturday night going over all the games and doing interviews.
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
I can think of little more than would make me happy
than to see the admin make a negotiation that would resolve the litigation and provide reasonable compensation (whatever is negotiated) to Mike Leach.
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
One point Dunka
I am certain all legal advise points to not honoring the man you are accusing of abuse.
I don’t think there is anyone anywhere accusing Leach of abuse. Those false charges have long been put to bed. No need to go into detail, but not even #82 still claims that he was ever locked anywhere.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
And .......
I guess I was not too clear, earlier……………there are two different entities involved. One – the Universtiy and two – the DoubleT Association. I’m not clear just how associated with the university the DTA is, but they do have some sort of relationship. The DTA runs and executes the Hall of Fame and Hall of Honor. The Universtiy and Red Raider Club are more closely related.
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
My bad. I thought they were still keeping that premise as part of their defense.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
+1
I’m sure we can be real pains in the ass at times, so thanks to Seth for putting up with us (especially since he’s probably losing some sleep being a dad now).
As far as the reference to the references to Leach happening eventually, in a way it’s already happening. If you’ve noticed, the game programs feature a listing (with coach’s pictures) of the all-time win leaders in Tech history. Leach’s picture is next to Tub’s—oh the irony!
by djn on Nov 2, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
As far as Hance goes...
Dunka, I like your reference to “when the stone wall will come down” as far as Hance and Co and how long their regime will last. We’ll see changes eventually. If the Communist empire in eastern Europe and the Berlin Wall can fall, so will Hance’s empire!
by djn on Nov 2, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Not political
After 37 years that aspect should be neutered. But the wall coming down comment reminded me of the classic Doonsbury strip the day Gerald Ford was sworn in:
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
are you blown away because it IS serious?
I know I am mostly here for comic relief, but I do have passion for all things, err, most things Tech.
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
I would say
BBeard’s humor is just as thoughtful as the 1% of the time he is serious
"Odds are its something simple" - @Coach_Leach
Wow, blackbeard, you're full of surprises!
I had not considered the impact on teams who played during Leach’s tenure. They certainly deserve the same honor, privilege and recognition as all other teams over the years.
Could not agree more on two other points:
Huge thanks to Seth for patiently putting up with those of us with strong & passionate views on such a controversial issue.
The administration’s refusal to acknowledge Leach’s significant contribution to the football program, university and city of Lubbock is one of the issues that is hardest for me to move past.
Thanks for the thoughtful post, blackbeard!
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
i honestly think once all the lawsuits are finished and this thing is totally
and completely put to bed…and some time has passed…that TTU will slowly and quietly begin re-acknowledging Leach’s contributions. But with all the legal stuff being sorted out, it’s probably their position to just ignore all that until it’s done.
Thank you for sharing this information, I didn't realize that we did that, it is pretty special, IMHO.
I see throughout the years that there are various reunions for teams of a particular coach. For example last week was the reunion for the teams that played for JT King. I believe that the teams that played for Spike will have theirs during the OSU game,
Regarding Mike Leach’s teams, it is kind of muddy currently.
While I think it possible, it is at least difficult and perhaps awkward, to do that kind of honor that involves a coach who is currently pursuing litigation. Someday, and hopefully soon, that will end. Perhaps then we can get on with doing the good stuff for everyone.
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
ohhhhh man.....
you just opened a can…..I’m getting out of the way!
Texas Tech Defense..."60% of the time it works every time."
by I bleed Red and Black on Nov 2, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe, but can we beat 581 posts from yesterday?
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
from here anythijng is possible
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
I think there's some incompetence at various levels within the team.
And it bleeds out onto the field at game time with pretty good frequency.
Be a team. Be the most excited to play. Be the best at doing your @#&$ing job.
Great sports GIFs
Shane Victorino of the Phillies hits a foul ball, thinks it’s a homer, makes it to 3rd before anyone tells him.
never play cards with Acinonyx jubatus. They're cheetahs.
Forde
Never was a huge fan of this guy but I did like what he said about the LHN and the greed factor that UT holds over member schools.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
I am glad Yahoo! is there to pick up the guys that ESPiN lays off for telling the truth.
by cjp on Nov 2, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
well, yeah he left on his own
but only because he was having to censor his opinion…..I wonder how hard it would be to actually write for espn if you had an opinion other than the mainstream? Some of their guys are talented, but a lot of em are hacks without anykind of original opinion.
"Odds are its something simple" - @Coach_Leach
They have almost 1,000 on air and written talent sources
There are sure to be some weak one’s…not defending, but when you hire as many people as they do, they can’t all be A players.
we all know a certain someone that is not an A player for the WWL
and he is alledged to have killed many many hookers
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
What we are doing with defensive backs is unreal….it looks like a cross between a game show and a reality series.
How bout we put one of our team leaders back there…any thoughts?
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2011 10:04 AM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
Lots and lots of injuries.......very unfortunate.
trying Corker and Corndog seems like a good idea. There has to be others out there too, didn’t we sign a couple of former HS QBs as DB’s?
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
Jarvis Phillips is one and he’s probably going to play. J.J. Gaines played QB at Irving Nimitz (I think) and Jeremy Reynolds are both being redshirted.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
time to burn those red shirts
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
I think that Neboh, Vest, Phillips and Mays should all be able to play this week. Happiness Osunde is another option, but he’s been playing safety.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
Had no idea
We had a player named Happiness. Had to look it up to see if I could find the back story. Many of you may already know this but for those who don’t:
Apparently his given name is Junior Osunde. Found this information on a blog for the U of MN blog – he was going there until legal issues kept him in TX according to their site.
Best post: If he played offense, everyone would be in pursuit of Happiness.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
We have lots of athletes with some real names!
Every few weeks we see a story about a new recruit that has an unforgettable or unpronouncable name.
Oh look, here comes Ms Saskatchewan Kapow!zle, followed by Mr 2many Vowels, and bringing up the rear is Mr Happiness asunder.
Somehow, It has to be a good thing even if it seems a little comical sometimes.
For those of you that don't follow/participate in the basketball threads......
Long live Darkocharcoalcodychocoholicsombitch
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
and
his lost family jewel
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He did not really lose it, it was just damn
hard to get to once is knocked up into his neck.
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
My point is more the marketing angle.
Isn’t there more of an advantage in name/school recognition if Hoopy Mcdoodlebug scores 75 points per game as opposed to forgettable nobody and his dog, spot?
I think It works if the athletes produce, no?
i would tell them to just hold the front of their jersey and never let go
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
probably should try the ryan defense a few times too
(12-15 defensive players at a time.)
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
hell....
put Amaro back there. Can you imagine seeing that big boy come in for a tackle as a db?
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
ahh...
you had to go and mention my favorite player in Tech history.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
Great Observation
Also, would love to see one of the highly esteemed and hard working emotional leaders step forward and volunteer to take the charge of the unit.
by Arizona Raider on Nov 2, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Yesssssss old school!!!!
the first #82 shot of the day!!!! Me like
"Odds are its something simple" - @Coach_Leach
I'll echo it
Thank you Seth for allowing the banter yesterday. I know it did wonders for me and I was even able to muster up some comedic relief towards the end of yesterday about a topic that in the past could literally elevate my blood pressure to dangerous levels. Thanks for putting up with us and especially for putting up with those of us, me especially, who bring very opinionated thoughts/comments into the discussion. Those comments can be very shocking to some but I do think it helps all of us to just get them out in the open and discuss them.
TTU '04 - I thought it was me that had gone crazy, not the herd.
I was so full of hope before the ISU game and sooooo loooowww after that I was depressed. I mean literally felt bad, got real quiet, could not relax, just felt terrible for three days. I just had these Walt Disney dreams about success for my beloved alma mater. This season in particular is breaking my heart. But, I am feeling better now, getting over it sslooowwly. A win or even a good performance full of passion this week would do me good.
My passion waxes and wanes with that shown on the field by the team. Been that way for over 40 years now. Does not seem to matter who the coach or players are. I thought Donny Anderson would never let us lose a game. Or Rodney Allison. But I’ll be back in the stands or in front of the TV or the computer next Saturday, and the next, and… (a quiet "wreck’em).
At this point I think gone crazy is an understatement
Like you I’ll be in front of the TV this saturday but with much less excitement. I’ve come to grips with the fact that we have a lot of work left to be done to be a serious contender but that’s fine. Too much more going on in the world that’s more important than to get so wrapped up in it. Hopefully one day the fire will be back but I’m taking a step back for now.
I always liked Forde - I love his backhand dig at ESPN in his 1st Yahoo column
“The Dash applied for membership and was accepted by the worldwide leader in sports journalism.”
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
OK
If you are a journalist in Lubbock, would you do an interview this week with Kent and ask if there is extra pressure to beat UT since he specifically stated that is what this coach is here for?
I don’t think I would needle Tubs for that, it wasn’t him that said it…..but you would think a journalist would at least pose the question….right?
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
Honest question....
And then ask where we are on Tier 1.
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
and then
ask him any question about conference re-alignment and wait and listen as he makes a jack-ass out of himself……. Wait, any question would do for that result.
"Odds are its something simple" - @Coach_Leach
and then ask him where he was when
all those hookers died in Dallas.
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
and THEN
Ask Chancellor Hance if he’s going to put a balcony on the Chancellor’s house, so that he can harangue the neighbors. Sure the neighbors would appreciate that.
Random Twitter confluence:
Both Wade Bowen and Mike Leach are in Tucson…..
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
and pretty kick ass
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Nov 2, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
damn, but
if his pen is still working, couldn’t he just run by the universtiy and sign a few papers?
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
Can anyone either provide the link to Tubs 104.3 interview last week
where he made the A James comments or tell me where to find it?
I talked to Dr. Dean at the Alumni Association today & he wasn’t aware of the comments Tubs made but would like to see/hear them. I told him I would send them.
Thanks!
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
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