Adam James and SR Day
by travis.w.bishop on Nov 8, 2011 5:25 AM CST
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PrintI just read an article on the DMN about players asking fans to not "boo" Adam James when he is introduced on family day this Saturday.
As I sat in the dining facility here in Germany, I couldn't help thinking about this and remembering my days playing ball in high school when the fans, our hometown fans, our friends and parents would "boo" us for our poor play or losing a game. It hurt! It hurt like almost no other pain in life at that time.
Now we all may or may not agree with what's gone on for the last two years. But with two years of reflection I would like to state the following. Adam James did nothing any different from what any 19-20 year old would have done in telling his family about what happened. Maybe he embellished his story maybe he didn't, we'll never know. We also would want our children to do the same thing, to tell us what's going on in their lives. What we do with that info...well now that is something we can discuss.
My point is, for those who feel so high and mighty as to the HONOR and INTEGRITY of Texas Tech University not being what it was before the debacle with James/Leach/James etc., to "boo" Adam James this coming Saturday as he is introduced is tantamount to lowering yourself to that same level as the Admin., BoT, and Craig James.
It is your right, but as Charlton Heston said many times as president of the NRA, with rights comes responsibility. Please exercise your rights judiciously and remember these "kids" are student athletes. They play because they love the game and have abilities we do not. That is all.
If we want them to be a team, then we need to support them as a TEAM and to "boo" one is to "boo" them all. If you choose to act in that fashion, then please I beg of you, stay home or go to your local sports bar, etc. and "boo" the team from there.
Very Respectfully,
Travis W. Bishop
Senior Chief Petty Officer, United States Navy
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Double-T Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Double-T Nation's writers or editors.
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booing
I would rather there be a deafening silence. That would be more effective than the entire crowd booing him and his family. I suspect the boos would be for his dad more than they would be for him.
i remember,
when we were supposed to be silent when the team ran out of the tunnel last year. it was supposed to be a new “tradition”
by Jameson Vernon on Nov 8, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
Thank you for your service.
I will not rehash the crimes committed by #82, it has been done here a thousand times and they are public record.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
Interesting post
First of all, I respect your point of view.
Having said that, I think those who boo, should they choose to do so, will boo for reasons that are different than what you have described in your post.
In the military, young men, many who are younger than #82, are placed in situations of grave danger and are asked to shoulder monumental responsibilities.
Mistakes are acceptable, but insubordination and willful attempts to undermine senior officers and sow dissension in the ranks are not tolerated. Why? As you undoubtedly know, because such behavior puts lives in danger.
Football is not the military, but maintaining respect for a coach’s authority, even one with whom a player might disagree, is a key component of any successful football team.
In the military example, those who would attempt to replicate similar acts to #82 would be met with swift punishment in some form, including, based on the severity of the act, dishonorable discharge.
Number 82 never received punishment of any kind. He lied. He was encouraged to lie, and then he was rewarded for lying by being allowed to stay on the team.
In the military, in the workplace, in any other arena, such behavior is not acceptable. It is not honorable.
The consequences of #82’s acts, in the minds of many who will boo him, brought dishonor to a university they love, a football program they revere and a man they respected.
Those who choose to boo will not be booing the team.
They will be cheering the team. They will be cheering the departing seniors who will be playing their last game at Jones stadium. They will be cheering for the real sacrifices made by the wounded veterans being honored that day. These are all honorable men.
They will be booing #82.
For those who boo, # 82’s occasional contributions on the field do not exonerate his unpunished acts.
For those that boo, his presence is an ugly reminder that dishonorable behavior can be rewarded by those with questionable motives.
Those that boo would rather cheer, but refuse to ignore dishonor.
Those that boo choose to strive for honor instead.
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Nov 8, 2011 6:55 AM CST reply actions 8 recs
LR, I wish I were so elequent. Well said.
and in my own words……………………..fuck 82 and his helicopter daddy
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
by blackbeard on Nov 8, 2011 6:59 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
wow well said. I don’t know if I’ll boo but those comments made me want to.
by techsj on Nov 8, 2011 9:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I guess my problem is
I don’t see AJ as the root of the problem. I think Daddy James is the problem. Sure, was AJ insubordinate? Possibly. But I can tell you based on the limited “evidence” that exists in the public domain, if I had rid my unit of all the Sailors who had committed similar offenses…there would be no one left to run the command!
Again, to each their own and I know full well that everyone is going to have their own take on the rights and wrongs of this situation.
I heard for a week following the A&M game about how Tech fans are “classless”. Here’s an opportunity to demonstrate that. I’m not asking anyone to change their opinion of AJ, CJ, TT, KH, GM, etc. Actually if anything, I agree with the comment above to not react at all. To me that shows the better way of handling this situation.
I guess in the end argument, I see “booing” as just as dishonorable as the acts of AJ, his father and all the other involved in this situation. At some point, somewhere, someone needs to have the Honor and the Courage to step up and take the high road and actually demonstrate instead of simply talking about what the “right” thing to do is.
by travis.w.bishop on Nov 8, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
if you feel that strongly i suggest doing something to the texas tech board rather than boo
i just don’t think it’s in good taste/class to boo someone from our own university. but that is just MHO. I can imagine recruits hearing that now….“don’t mess up or you will get booed at tech”.
Texas Tech Defense..."60% of the time it works every time."
by I bleed Red and Black on Nov 8, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not going to judge anyone for booing or not booing
but I will say that adam james did a lot more than “mess up” at Tech.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
I think you need to lower the percentage on your tag line...
"Transition is hard." - TT
by Houston Raider on Nov 8, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Our family tried.
We were told that all negative or critical e-mails, faxes, or phone messages were re-routed and deleted or destroyed. We know we certainly never received any response to our inquries.
And some folks wonder...
Why many of us feel that our “wonderful” administration doesn’t care what we think? Here’s some proof of the fact they REALLY don’t give a shit about us.
by djn on Nov 9, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
classless?
I’ve heard for years (from… let’s use longhorns as an example) that Red Raiders were classless under Leach for “running up the score”, last weekend I watched UT pound their starters well into the 4th quarter. People will SAY whatever suits their purposes, and one moment at our senior game (that 99% of the nation won’t even watch) isn’t going to make people feel different in either direction.
Regarding Daddy vs. son, if Craig James is willing to not hang his son out to dry and instead walk on that field and take whatever acid people direct at his kid, then step up and I’ll agree. If not, then Adam should’ve stood up for his coach against what his dad was doing before Leach got fired. Even at 18, heck even at 16 I wouldn’t have cost a person his job (nevermind what it’s done to our program) unless I was completely certain I was wronged and willing to state my case to whoever asked. If AJ wants to hide behind his dad, then dad needs to step up, if he doesn’t and you think AJ is treated unfairly, then blame his dad for being a complete @$$ who isn’t willing to protect his son.
You must be new around here, Travis
I refer to your continued questioning of AJ’s involvement in the whole Leach affair. Do your homework. His involvement has been heavily documented, including his own sworn testimony in the lawsuit. I get the main point you’re trying to make, but it doesn’t help you any to minimize his involvement as a rationale for your argument. He intentionally falsified a video to support the lie his daddy was spreading. He thought the whole affair was funny (his own words). I call that equal culpability.
I leave it to others to decide if the ‘right thing’ is to honor him as a reward for his actions.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
I'm not trying to minimize anything
I’m just trying to point out that whether any of us like it or not, AJ is a part of the Texas Tech Red Raider football team. That word is supposed to symbolize some sort of unity. It is simply my honest opinion that to boo any one player is to boo them all. Again just my opinion.
Do I think the kid screwed up? Absolutely. And I do think the bigger problem is CJ and my wish would be that he not even be allowed on the field of play.
by travis.w.bishop on Nov 10, 2011 5:25 AM CST up reply actions
i agree booing is just bad....
Texas Tech Defense..."60% of the time it works every time."
by I bleed Red and Black on Nov 8, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Or.....
Farting in unison? Eat lots of bean burritos the night before, and let ’em fly at the right time!
Maybe booing is bad...
But in this case it’s justified. Costing your coach his job by lying is worse.
by djn on Nov 9, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
+1
This is a 3 ring circus up in here......
by oldschoolraider on Nov 8, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
+ 1 :)
This is a 3 ring circus up in here......
by oldschoolraider on Nov 8, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
You're being redundant...again
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
It's the players that are requesting the fans not to boo
But there are fans whose respect for everything Leach is much greater than their respect for those athletes who represent us on the field and these fans would boo but out of respect for the players some of us won’t boo. No big deal!
by jef on Nov 8, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Your sir are a real pro.
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
Im going to BOOO
I am going to boo him and his dad when they both come out this weekend. Lets not forget that they did get someone fired… and their name tarnished.
Daddy James will not be in Lubbock
He is scheduled to call (“hrumph!”) another game for ESPeNis. I cannot be at the game, but those who do go, if they boo, may be targeting the admin and Tubs and his staff, as well as Baby James. I figure that Tech will be at least 30 points behind by the start of the 4th quarter. I also feel that there is a chasm between some players because of the admin’s behavior, AJ’s involvement and his overall attitude (not to be covered up because of a few decent games) and the really poor play-calling by the coaches. As fans who are emotionally behind this team, to see it play so poorly is very disheartening. I just hope somehow it all gets better before next season starts, as this season may end very badly.
TTpilk
"Never, never, never give up." Winston Churchill
We DO know
“Maybe he embellished his story maybe he didn’t, we’ll never know.”
We DO know. He admitted it in the depositions. It was also proven that his father hired Spaeth Communications to proactively spread their version of the story on the internet.
We will be much better oiff when James who cleary did not act with honor has left our university.
As for the booing, I have mixed feelings. But people have the right to express themselves however they choose. That is thanks to the service of the men&women in the military who protect our freedom and for that I sincerely thank you.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
by Austin, Tx on Nov 8, 2011 7:52 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Wish I could be there.
I was at the Iowa State game and the James kid got more cheers than Torres did at the intro’s.
Someone please get a recording!
I can’t wait to hear it.
Thank you for what you do for our country!
Great post Mr. Bishop and Thank you…..
I agree….I personally don’t think A. James nor his family should be booed. For the record, I don’t like how the whole situation was handled. THere already is a negative atmosphere with this whole season and to continue to be negative only hurts the team. Deafening silence to both of them would be much more of a way to express the feelings.
Go Tech!
Look at the posts on this website
They state that Tuberville sucks, This is the worst Tech tech ever, worst defense ever, There goes our Bowl streak, We have a loosing record at home to name a few posts. Without 82 The posts would be very different. I am not saying to Boo him that would only hurt Tech, but I would never say to cheer him, or anything he does. I will be in the stands and I will be silent when his name is called. I will be happy however because that means I can put this character or lack there of behind me.
While not a big fan of fans booing their own, in general...
… this is so completely different than the normal reasons that most people do that I don’t feel the same sense of impropriety is applicable.
Not one single player on that field will misunderstand why those boos are raining down. No one that is not the intended target of the booing will have their feelings hurt in the least. Everyone is anticipating the boos and all are very clear on why they are coming. So, with very real respect, to say that it will hurt anyones feelings other than A James is misguided at best.
To echo what London Raider said – there is a certain amount of dishonor in turning a blind eye to the very bad behavior that we know for certain happened. In life, 99 times out of 100, a person who behaves as poorly as Adam did, and who has the support of enough people in positions of influence, doesn’t receive any real repercussions for their actions. Booing Adam James has more important symbolic value than any other “Booing” at an athletic event than I can ever recall. It is the fans 1st and only open and uncensored public opportunity to show their displeasure at not only what Adam did, but also to express all of the pent up frustration they feel for Craig James and the administration. It is a rare opportunity in these types of scenarios to basically say “Don’t believe all the PR> We are still pissed as hell.” That Adam James is the lightning rod is of his own making.
I’ll be the 1st to say that he may very well have seen the light and changed his ways, and if he has – more power to him – but the price for deciding to not apologize to Leach publicly and in such a way that the public can understand that he is sincerely sorry for his actions, is to deal with the consequences of his original act as if he isn’t sorry at all.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
by Dunka on Nov 8, 2011 8:17 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Three things
1. Thank you for your opinion and most importantly, for your service.
2. I don’t agree with booing players (unless they are Aggies)
3. If I was at the game this weekend, I probably wouldn’t boo James, but I don’t blame those that choose to. His situation is totally outside the realm of normalcy. He lied about being locked in a closet. He took a video and posted it on YouTube. His dad hired a PR firm and used his platform on the biggest sports network in the country to perpetuate the lie for weeks. The winningest coach in Tech history was fired as a result, while he sat back in silence, never clearing the record. Then, months later during his deposition, he said he thought it was all “funny”.
Not a normal situation.
No bullfights. No gambling. No donkeys. No vanilla extracts. No piñatas. None of that stuff. Straight football. No switchblades.
by San Antonio Red Raider on Nov 8, 2011 8:20 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
I agree with this. I won’t think less of you if you choose not to boo and I won’t think less of you if you choose to boo. I don’t think that booing makes anything better and I don’t think it will make anything worse.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
This
Is why dtn is and will be successful. Not telling others how to be a fan or to grow up…etc.
This is a 3 ring circus up in here......
by oldschoolraider on Nov 8, 2011 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
You know...this situation is tough
Sitting here this morning reading all the comments it’s not hard agree with everyone of them. What to do? If we live in the moment, strive for honor evermore, want to see this team win, honor our seniors, you name it, what is the best course of action that supports a win on Saturday? I have to fall on the side of Senior Chief Bishop. Will not booing AJ make a difference in his life? Maybe. Maybe not. Will it make a difference in the outcome of this game. Probably. Oh, I’m a Navy Vet too. Thank you Chief.
here's the thing for me
Why is James still on the team & still at Tech?
If I knew I was so divisive to the university – and how could he not know – I would transfer for the best of the university. Because it’s not all about me. I wouldn’t drag Tech, the fans, the students & the alum through this for another two years & deepen the divide like he has. Again, because it’s not all about me.
If he has truly grown over the last two yearss it has been at the expense of all of us. So where is the honor in that???
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
by Austin, Tx on Nov 8, 2011 8:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Turning tuck tail and running would implicate wrong doing.
Staying on a gamble that things will turn out for the good will boost his legacy.
And if you’ve got a national PR presence to back you then the odds are in your favor.
The James Gang Ford and Hyundai dealership won’t sell many cars with anything less than a stellar college football legacy.
you wouldnt,
but he would, and did, and is…
by Jameson Vernon on Nov 8, 2011 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
i think booing is inevitable
because though you pose some very good points in your post, not every TTU fan reads this website, so unfortunately we aren’t reaching everyone. gotta say though, i would probably boo. it’s just good fun. and, i would know in my mind i was only booing him, not the whole team.
Thanks, Travis, for your post and more importantly for service to your country
Adam James is responsible for his actions and has/will suffer the consequences. However, one thing he did not do (my opinion, I suppose) is get Mike Leach fired. I firmly believe that that was going to happen regardless and probably sooner rather than later. The James incident may have been the catalyst, but it was not the cause.
If you still hold on to hatred, frustration, disgust over Leach’s firing, I accept that. But consider dishing out your feelings to the guilty parties in proportion to their level of responsibility. (Hint: Admin.)
To those of you who are considering booing on Saturday (whether you are at the game or behind your couch): Booing will really stick it to the James family for a few seconds and let them know how you really feel. (Will they even care?) Booing will not honor the wishes of the other players and coaching staff (even if we cannot understand this). Booing will do nothing to elevate the football program (a presumed universal goal of all DTNers).
If you do choose to boo, please boo responsibly.
“Adam James is responsible for his actions and has/will suffer the consequences.”
The imminent booing…
“The James incident may have been the catalyst, but it was not the cause.”
He was the “tool”.
“But consider dishing out your feelings to the guilty parties in proportion to their level of responsibility. (Hint: Admin.)”
Again the James kid is the “tool” to reach the Admin.
“Booing will really stick it to the James family for a few seconds and let them know how you really feel.”
Mission accomplished!
“Booing will do nothing to elevate the football program (a presumed universal goal of all DTNers).”
(sarc)Isn’t crowd involvement good for the program?(/sarc)
Booing
is a form of freedom of expression. If done loud enough and vociferously enough, the TV commentators will have no choice but to acknowledge that there is a very significant part of the Tech fan base still antagonized my Mike’s lynching, done with the willful assistance of Adam’s fake imprisonment in an electrical cabinet.
Hence, if the commentators try to make happy over Adam or Tubb’s acceptance by the majority of fans, might be proven to be totally false. Maybe they would even mention “Double T/Double Cross” as a new neutral book on who did what with whose assistance to try to ruin Mike Leach’s reputation.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
just thought I would get things started a little early
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game." Herm Edwards
I am so ready for this mess to be over.... I'm tempted to cheer....
But I will refrain from doing so…
James gang – Please go… just go.. go far away… go away from anything that I really care about..
Mr. Bishop – Thank you for your service to our country.
"Transition is hard." - TT
James Gang has been gone for years.
“Standing in the rain”
I’ll be here all week.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Like you remember 1973...
Based off fuzzy memories I don’t have, you could be right.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
I go a little back and forth on this
On one hand, I certainly understand why anyone would want to boo him. As a paying consumer, you are “allowed” via proxy to do certain things at a game; one of those is booing or cheering as you see fit.
I personally don’t think I could do it just because I’d prefer to play the apathy card towards the young man. To me, silence speaks louder in many instances including this one.
I do believe he’s probably apologized to his teammates and coaches for having a hand in the controversy. I doubt he’d be as accepted as he seems to be otherwise. I am not sure who else he owes an apology to. With the legal proceedings, he’s likely been advised by attorneys not to speak publicly about all of this – including any mea culpa.
That said, I am anxious to see what the network shows of his introduction. I’m sure there will be links posted here that have the full monty.
I will add that I'm fairly certain the boos will be long and loud
I’m also fairly certain the players and coaches will come to his defense afterwards when asked about it. If they do, do you automatically think less of them for their defense? Just curious.
Not really
My real opinion won’t be formed until after everyone is graduated and has the freedom to speak honestly about it without fear of retribution.
I won't... In fact, I hope they get all pissed of about it and go take it out on the Cowboys...!
"Transition is hard." - TT
by Houston Raider on Nov 8, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
off... pissed off.. I hope they get pissed off...!!!
"Transition is hard." - TT
by Houston Raider on Nov 8, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Nope. Not at all
Quite the opposite. I would fully expect his teammates and the coaches to come to his defense. And it looks like that is exactly what is going on with regard to getting out in front and asking fans not to boo.
That said, I can understand someone wanting to boo loudly when AJ is annouced. I’d still prefer some sort of chant targeted at Craig James. But I’m not going to tell someone they can’t boo him.
IMWTx
"We thought we were too good to play Texas f-ing A&M. Now how in the F can that be?" ML
by imisswesttexas on Nov 8, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
SID and Coaches will be smart about it
They will likely put James in between more crowd friendly players in an effort to minimize the boo’ing they surely know is coming.
IMWTx
"We thought we were too good to play Texas f-ing A&M. Now how in the F can that be?" ML
by imisswesttexas on Nov 8, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
I am not sure
that the boos will be loud and long, keep in mind that this game is in Lubbock where the media is strictly controlled.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
James is accepted by the team now.
I won’t think less of them.. I feel like the team’s perspective is pretty very narrowly focused on what’s going on now, what he’s doing now, etc. The team only had two options in 2010, and that was either to ostracize him in the name of some kind of justice against the wishes of the new coaching staff or to do as they wished and accept him on his merits from that point forward. They chose the latter, I can’t really imagine them doing anything else.
Fans don’t have the bond of shared experience that lets some gloss over people’s past mistakes, and don’t have to listen the the coaching staff tell them to forget. Fans can conveniently continue to call him out in the name of what some perceive as justice long delayed. The team’s just being a team, although I think this is all an unnecessary distraction for them and takes attention away from people who are more deserving of attention.
Be a team. Be the most excited to play. Be the best at doing your @#&$ing job.
Fuck #82, fuck his PR firm, fuck his fucking fucked Dad, and fuck hance for making all of this insanity possible.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Nov 8, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Please don't
Forget bor member Sowell…
This is a 3 ring circus up in here......
by oldschoolraider on Nov 8, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mixed feelings on this
As has been said, Thank You for your service first and foremost.
I tend to believe AJ was basically used by the Admin, BoR and his own father (worst of all) to help get coach Leach fired. At the end of the day, everyone involved except for Adam James were the adults and should have acted as adults.
I’m not giving him a pass. He was clearly an entitled and disrespectful kid and he has a part in all of this. If he is boo’d, I can’t say I will be happy about it. But I won’t be too sad about it either.
My preference is to simply not acknowledge him at all. Either quietly sit down or flat out turn your back on them. If only there was an annoucement made for Craig James first with a long, long, long delay…..Dreaming I guess.
IMWTx
"We thought we were too good to play Texas f-ing A&M. Now how in the F can that be?" ML
Maybe the fans should pull that old, lame gag
(usually reserved for the opposing team) where they pretend to read newspapers when AJ is announced.
i propose the following
“to “boo” Adam James this coming Saturday as he is introduced is tantamount to lowering yourself to that same level". I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LOWER OURSELVES then.
this kid needs to feel bad and very badd! this kid needs to learn from his mistake. Rich dependent brat in need of some hate to become a man. He will learn and he will be remembered as a tool and that is exactly what he needs.
we should all just give him his last hell. big constant boo!!!
Senior Day is to 'recognize' seniors for their contribution to the program and the universty...
deafening silence would be most apropo in this unfortunate situation…he has contributed a big zero…
"Fill it up again". "It's so good! Once it hits your lips it's so good!" -Frank the Tank
I'd argue that he has contributed greatly to our current situation.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
unfortunately...
If the detractors are silent, will the “supporters” also be so? I think there are people that will cheer for all our seniors, if only because they are Red Raiders and they are seniors. I’m not saying those people are wrong, in fact I respect anyone that can do that. But that said, I don’t think silence will come across like people might expect. The only other option is to cheer insanely loudly for everyone else and aim for a much more muted response for James.
I hope there is a genuine appreciation for what he has done this year....
He has easily been our best and most consisitent inside receiver, he has done a decent job of blocking, and he has busted his tail for Tech. I appreciate that.
One statement I will make that nobody can deny:
IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO MAKE SOMEONE INTO A FRIEND RATHER THAN AN ENEMY!
what? Who's the frame of comparison for that statement?
Are you claiming he’s the best simply because every other receiver is split out wide?
No!
Our inside receivers have not performed well at all this year….with one exception, AJ. Zouzalik has underperformed, CornDog hs been erratic. Moore, Ward, and Torres are all ourside receivers. Amaro has not caught the ball consisitently.
Additionally let me add this to my original post. I hope twenty years from now AJ has good feelings about having been a RED RAIDER.
by coatart on Nov 8, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of coaching mistakes, I personally think Torres would have been better suited to the IR this year.
Amoro was not given nearly enough touches to warrant burning his redshirt, Moore should be left outside (after being allowed to heal)
And 20 years from now, I will be dead……….so there is that…………………but I just hope that my kids and grandkids are not paying to help that little daddy’s boy get thru life.
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
Torres started the season at IR
but when Moore went down he was moved to OR. Since they have not moved him back to IR it is apparent to me Moore is less than 100%. Torres did get a few snaps at the IR this past game, but not many.
You can ask him yourself
He will be the assistant manager of a Chli’s somewhere by then.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
This is about as dumb of a statement as you can make....
he will be running CJ’s business affairs.
Hotel Restaurant Management Major
I know that James working in that field long term is unlikely. It was only supposed to be funny. I’m not a professional historian (my BA is in History) so I understand that your major doesn’t dictate your career.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
As a RHIM major myself
There is nothing wrong with going into restaurant, hotel & instiutional management!!! Ummm…can you say Norman Brinker, Wyatt (Vegas), Hilton, Marriott, etc. – it is BIG BUSINESS!! I get SO tired of people taking shots at that major. When I was at Tech I co-founded our own business fraternity because “traditonal” business fraternies wouldn’t let us join. How often do you eat out, stay at hotels, go to emergency rooms, hospitals, etc.?
Okay, rant over.
Having said that, I totally agree that your major does not dictate your career. I only worked in the restaurant industry for 2 1/2 years. At Chili’s mbrown!!
This statement in no way is an endorsement or defense of Adam James.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
I hired a woman to help out with operations last year
who was a division president at Club Corp for a decade. I ask her daily why she left a job full of fun incentive trips, cool outings, great perks to help sick people who are undiagnosed as Chronically Pissed Off and Cranky. She still can’t answer me.
Remind me
To tell you about my interview with Chili’s/brinker in late 87…
This is a 3 ring circus up in here......
by oldschoolraider on Nov 8, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
keep believing dude:
CornDog: 29 Recs. – 329 yds – 11.3 avg – 40 yd Long (was a TD) – 1 TD (more Recs, more total yards)
Just to note, 5 players are listed as “Inside Receiver” on our roster right now, CornDog, James, J. McRoy (hasn’t played), J. Grant (hasn’t played) and Zouzalik. McRoy & Grant are both freshmen, Zouzalik & CornDog are Juniors. James, the lone senior has not obviously outplayed CornDog and is only somewhat better than Zouzalik, nevermind that Zouzalik also fields kicks. Also, ignore that James is on par with CornDog and ahead of an (in your words) “underperforming” Zouzalik in his statistically BEST year.
I’ll bet you right now that either of the 2 freshman tight ends that we have, assuming they see significant playing time (Amaro hasn’t played much and Wright hasn’t played at all) will widely outperform anything James has done this year.
also...
“best and consistent”? A. James had ZERO catches for ZERO yards before the A&M game.
and he completely disappeared against Iowa State...
And again, the hate has nothing to do with his play on the field.
Be a team. Be the most excited to play. Be the best at doing your @#&$ing job.
All other inside receivers have less that 1 touchdown & less than 240 yards?
That’s kind of shocking.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
it's a bogus stat, comparing 3 players
Altho even with that NARROW window, CornDog still has more yards and the same number of TDs. Also, Douglas’ “long” reception was his touchdown, James’ “long” saw him caught from behind on the field.
If it's pre-game it won't affect me one way or the other
By the time we break down the tailgate tent & put away the gear, walk to the stadium, buy sodas & drain the lizard, it’s usually about time to kickoff. I just have to ignore him 3 more games & he is gone.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
IMHO booing does nothing but make Tech look worse.
In the eyes of a parent, student, and alumni i wouldn’t want my kid to play football there if he was booed by his own fans. If you as an individual feel that strong about his situation, speak to the board, stop giving money, stop going to games, and do other things. I just don’t agree with booing a kid. People are young and make mistakes. I know everyone on this blog has made mistakes. Just keep him mind how you would want to be treated. I can’t tell yall want to do, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just know that if I was a recruit and heard fans booing their own players I would never go to tech.
Texas Tech Defense..."60% of the time it works every time."
by I bleed Red and Black on Nov 8, 2011 2:57 PM CST reply actions
and what about all those fuckers that were booing Potts?
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
I'm fine with booing if I'm seeing what I think is bad effort.
I would have boo’d some at the Iowa State game this year. Just providing some feedback. It’s hard to get 60,000 people to voice one coherent idea without much coordination, but I’d have us all be more specific about what we’re unhappy with if I thought it were possible.
Be a team. Be the most excited to play. Be the best at doing your @#&$ing job.
I respect everyone's viewpoint...
And I don’t blame anyone for what they will or won’t do on Senior Day. I will cheer all the players loudly, save one, and that one—#82—I will BOOOOOO as loudly as I can. I’m sorry, I think he is as much to blame as his dad, and I’m going to give him “what for” (without any profanity, though). Believe me, I’m gonna have a LOT of company that day!
I have decided not to go to the game;
but I would boo him if I was there. I don’t feel one bit sorry for this kid.
College is about living with the choices that you make, just like coach Leach did.
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
One more time
How old was Adam James when he faked his electrical closet video that aided and assisted in getting Leach besmirched and fired?
You are right
Old enough to buy booze, old enough to vote, old enough to be in the military, he was a man when he did he little video joke.
All he has to say is I'm sorry, I made a mistake.
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
There was a comment in the LAJ this morning that actually made sense:
Something like, if adam is really a mature, hard working leader as Spaeth et. al. says he is, he would step aside from senior day and allow those seniors to go out without controversy.
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
by blackbeard on Nov 9, 2011 6:41 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I thought the same....
I’ve also thought that his decision to stay on the team was less courageous than selfish. Anyone could have predicted that his presence alone would perpetuate disunion between fans, and create distractions for the team.
However, he won’t step aside. He’ll stand with the other seniors. Because if one thing is strikingly evident, Adam James is wholly oblivious to the results of his own actions.
by ForestFlyer on Nov 9, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not sure it's as much oblivious
as it is incredibly egotistical and selfish.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
Football (soccer) chants suffice here
Adam James,what a w*nker, what a w*nker… [repeat incessantly]
Say whatever you want to
AJ has gotten along with this staff, has been productive under this staff, and has not done anything except bust his * playing for the Red Raiders.
AJ did not make ML leave. ML made ML leave. He was a brilliant fb mind and he was a jerk to get along with in an organization.
This is horse is beyond dead.
Let’s quit beating it.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
I all the sudden never want to visit Oregon again.
Ever.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Is that you, Craig?
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
He just called you a name though & a nasty one at that!
You showed excellent self-control by not responding in kind!
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Nightmares!! I just got back from Portland! I go to Oregon every month!!!
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
Say what you want to....
Tubbberville can’t coach worth a shit!
by djn on Nov 9, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
How about a Team Name change
The Texas Tech Number 82s.
With the concerted effort going on to make this his season of redemption and not worrying about winning games or playing football. Lets go all out and rename the team after him, seems like the next logical step.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
Just to really rub this in....
The official Tech site has an article on AJ. I will not, however, put up a link. If you want to read it, go there and “enjoy??”…
TTpilk
"Never, never, never give up." Winston Churchill
Do they just not get that they are stirring the pot?
Or don’t they care?
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, "oh crap, she's up".
UGGGHHHHHH
Why did you have to tell me this, of COURSE I was compelled to go read it. Good lord that is the biggest load of crap. That reminded me of people saying “his teammates support him, so that’s proof that he’s good”. To this I will note two things:
“I have always been worried about Adam’s effect on my other players because of his weak and conceited attitude. I recently found out that Adam deliberately undermined my authority on many occasions. This is particularly disturbing because Coach Leach hired me to make our receivers the best group in the country, and Adam has damaged this group far more than I even realized.” Lincoln Riley, circa 2009
Secondly, altho he doesn’t mention James, Rylan Reed emailed the admin to argue on behalf of Mike Leach during the whole brouhaha. As much as I love Harrell and Crabtree from the 2008 team, I have immense respect for Reed and his comments on what Coach Leach did for him PERSONALLY is further evidence of why James deserves every single “boo” he will receive on Saturday, and probably more besides.
To boo, or not to boo, that is the question
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
the boos and screw yous of outrageous videos,
Or to stand behind the PR firm Spaeth.
To sleep, perchance to dream of winning, ay, there’s the rub.
It is almost over.
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