Addressing the Report that Glasgow Was Fired, the Return to the 4-3 and the New Offensive Line Coach
by Seth C on Dec 21, 2011 4:24 AM CST
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PrintI don't have a lot of time this morning. Certainly not enough time to address all of the things going on in my head in regards to the initial Twitter from CBS Sports' Bruce Feldman who reported that defensive coordinator Chad Glasgow had been fired, then the Twitter response from Texas Tech's Blayne Beal saying that Glasgow was not fired and will not be fired. I think I'm becoming more and more suspicious as time wears on, but I do believe there's a reason why this report was reported yesterday, which is the day before JUCO players can sign. It's the same reason why the somewhat caustic contract situation with Oklahoma St. and Mike Gundy has been so public the last couple of days. Someone, I don't know who, is looking to gain an advantage.
The other big question, which is if Glasgow is or will be fired and I don't have a clue. LAJ's Don Williams wrote an article last night summarizing the above and also saying that some of the Mississippi Gulf Coast C.C. players that would sign today said that Texas Tech would be running the 4-3 next year. I don't know who said it in the comments, but it was something to the effect of that Glasgow may still be employed, but he's no longer the defensive coordinator. FootballScoop had these two tidbits yesterday and I've put them in what I think is chronological order:
Texas Tech: Multiple sources telling us of an assistant leaving Tech. We are in the process of confirming. Would be very surprising to us unless he has something excellent lined up.
Texas Tech: Bruce Feldman just reported that Tommy Tuberville has released defensive coordinator Chad Glasgow. We were told a slightly different version; but regardless it looks like Glasgow will be moving on. Bright young coach.
This makes me think that there was some smoke there, but Glasgow may have been told recently , that Texas Tech would be returning to what Tuberville knew the best, and it's also not a surprise that new secondary coach John Lovett was recently the defensive coordinator at Miami two years ago, which also ran the 4-3, and that Glasgow had a choice: play along and run the 4-3 or find another job. Complete conjecture on my part, but there's too much smoke to ignore.
I have no doubt that if it turns out that it's true, that Glasgow is still the defensive coordinator, I am sure that Tuberville will say that the 4-3 and the 4-2-5 are essentially the same defense, that this is a natural progression and that Glasgow is fine with doing this. The first part of this is true in that I do think that the transition will be relatively easy and it may be the same defense, especially if Terrance Bullitt plays linebacker, but Glasgow may be the defensive coordinator in title only. This will be the fourth defensive scheme (4-3 to 3-4 to 4-2-5 to 4-3) this team will employ in as many years. That's not good and it's the exact opposite of consistency
In other football news, it appears that Tuberville has hired Texas A&M Offensive line coach Jim Turner. You can read Turner's biography on the TAMU website. Turner has essentially been an offensive line coach since the 2004 season, at Delaware and moved to Boston College before going to TAMU in 2008. Turner has worked with Sherman and although Sherman doesn't run the spread, Turner has experience with multiple offensive sets, from 10 personnel to 22 personnel, much like the Ole Miss candidate. I'm happy with this hire, especially considering how the offensive line performed for TAMU over the course of the last few years, a top 20 rushing offense and the line that gave up the fewest sacks in the nation.
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Mixed Feelings
I’m unhappy with the lack of consistency. I’m unhappy with the coaching turnover. I’m unhappy with the absence of a coherent philosophy/ strategy.
I’m concerned that the OC (after two seasons, based on interviews at UMass, Arkansas State, UAB) and the DC (after one season, based on the sudden change in defense to a 4-3, his seemingly limited input into the new hires, and recent news of his possible departure/reassignment) seem to be coming to the end of the road.
I expected far more from a coach of TT’s caliber. It’s hard not to get the sense that TT is grasping at straws.
That said, we are where we are, and I would rather see TT making adjustments then sitting tight for the sake of being consistent.
Coaching Changes
The changes suggest to me that TT actually sees that poor coaching is part of the problem (if talent and injuries really were the root of the problem, we would not be seeing the high number of coaching changes).
Despite all of the handwringing and TT’s excuse making during the season, we only experienced one major injury loss last year (Stephens). Otherwise, the injuries were par for the course or occurred in the last game or two of the year when the season had virtually been determined.
The blowout losses we experienced were not a result of lack of talent (our offense was one of the most experienced in the conference) or due to injuries.
I think TT also realizes that something else was going on.
I like the new hires, but without a consistent philosophy their talents will be wasted (as an assistant to Sherman, I’m sure Turner knows the feeling all too well).
JUCOS
I don’t have a huge issue with JUCOs. Historically we’ve done well in that department (R. Johnson, D. Howard, B. Sharpe, J Hansen to name a few). I’m not sure if this staff (what remains and the newcomers) has the same ability to leverage talent.
I think the shift to bringing in JUCOs en masse is surprising. It was only a few weeks ago that TT said he would build his teams primarily through recruiting high school kids over JUCOs.
Our Schedule Next Year (So Far)
Home: Kansas
Away: Texas State, New Mexico, Iowa State
TBD: West Virginia, TCU, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Baylor, Kansas State, final game TBD (probably an FCS team)
I count a maximum of 6 winnable games on that schedule (including the TBD FCS team).
(Remember when 2012 was the year we were supposed to open against Alabama?)
Yes, I want to believe, but if the HC doesn’t know what he believes, what exactly am I supposed to believe?
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Dec 21, 2011 6:08 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Why are we
playing New Mexico away two years in a row? And what are your six wins? I only see three or maybe four.
Gerald's legacy
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Dec 21, 2011 7:51 AM CST up reply actions
Spot on
My feeling exactly about this current situation. You can almost guarantee that this staff is scambling. I wouldn’t want to be an employee of Tuberville’s right now.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
I can't tell you how disappointed I am with Tubs ...
He has been a HC in a BCS conference for how long? Is has won how many division championships in the SEC West? And he is still trying to figure how to win? I expect way more out of someone who has a vaunted background like his
by Arizona Raider on Dec 21, 2011 8:16 AM CST up reply actions
You think something else was going on like maybe the team quit on Tommy.
I despise Tommy and can’t wait for the day his tenure ends at Tech.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
Yes
Especially in the Texas, I-State, and Okie-State games. The team, and by definition the coaching staff with them, just quit.
Other games were encouraging, as the team kept playing and competing – like the K-state, A&M and Baylor games.
But I really hated it when I saw Tubby quit in those games. That’s when I said to myself – - – this guy does not deserve this job.
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
by candyroll on Dec 21, 2011 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Juco love shoutout to Dwayne Slay
someone like that on the defensive side of the ball would be nice
by SPACECITYTECHSAN on Dec 21, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe Tommy was trying to find out who his leak was. Busted.
Strange that Blayne would even respond to the tweet.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
London, I have a hard time agreeing with this part of your fine perspective.
Despite all of the handwringing and TT’s excuse making during the season, we only experienced one major injury loss last year (Stephens). Otherwise, the injuries were par for the course or occurred in the last game or two of the year when the season had virtually been determined.
I think we were riddled with injury and that was reflected on the field in terms of consistency for learning to play a particular position by players who were shuffled around in order to plug holes, as well as consistency for teaching as there were new people trying to get up to speed for a particular game.
There seemed to be some enthusiasm circumstances as well, we saw a major drop off in what looked like want to or desire to play good team football.
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
Agreed..
We lost totally/ or never had back at 100%:
- WR : Moore
- RB: Stephens
#1/2 DE: Mackey - Center: Keown
- center: Morales
- DB: Porter
- DB/LB: Bullitt
- RB: Daniels (suspension)
- Return Man McCroy
These all happened early or mid way, and I’m sorry but you consider that list, and if you think that is “par for the course” I would like to see you back that up with facts.
Later in the season we lose:
- RB Washington
- WR Torres
Another starting O-Lineman
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I would venture to say...
That beyond Doege and Scott Smith…..there is no one on that list that our success did not hinge on.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Sure
I’ve been perplexed about this injury excuse/rationale for some time. As you well know TTUMAR, I try my hardest not throw out statements that I can’t back up (although, I’m not always successful). So I did a little research (although I admit it is not perfect).
Rather than making the blanket statement that we suffered from a lot of injuries, I think we have to acknowledge that not all injuries are equal:
- Injuries to key starters are more impactful than injuries to reserves
- Injuries to veteran contributors are more impactful than injuries to underclassmen.
- Season ending injuries that occur at the beginning of the year are more impactful than season ending injuries that occur at the end of the year
- Season ending injuries are generally more impactful than injuries which cause a player to miss a couple of games
- Injuries to key players are more impactful than injuries to role players, whose services can be substituted by other reserves.
It also stands to reason that starters, because they play the most, are also most prone to injuries – a fact of life for virtually every team.
You no doubt understand this logic.
Here is a clip from my response to an earlier thread that addresses the injury rationale (please note that the list is far from perfect, but I think it is the correct way to assess the impact of injuries on a team).
In looking at this year’s injury report, we only had one major injury to one major player, and that was to our talented RB Eric Stephens. According to the excellent source (collegeinjuryreport.com – you have to register, but it’s free), our injuries were reported as follows:
Note: Q = questionable, P = probable, OFS = out for season, MG = Missed Games , D = Doubtful
Week 1: 0 injuries
Week 2: 0 injuries
Week 3: 2 injuries: Swindall, Knee Q; Crawford, Thigh Q
Week 4: 3 injuries: Crawford, Hamstring P; Carpenter, Head Q; Keown Knee MG
Week 5: 2 injuries: Mackey, Lung P; Davis, Head Q
Week 6: 0 injuries
Week 7: 0 injuries
Week 8: 2 injuries: McRoy, multiple D; Moore Knee, D
Week 9: 4 injuries: Keown, Knee P; Langley, Knee Q; Franks, Ankle Q; Mays, Hamstring D
Week 10: 1 injury: Bullitt, Shoulder, D
Week 11: 1 injury: Dees, Ankle, Q
Week 12: 1 injury: James, Ribs, Q
Week 13: 2 injuries Crawford, Ankle, Q; Edwards, Knee, D
Out for the Year/ Date of injury:
Torres/ Final Game
DeAndre Washington/ Final Game
Tre Porter/ 11th game
Pete Robertson/ Fourth game (Robertson was a reserve RS Fr)
Tanner Foster/ Fourth game (Foster was a reserve JR LB)
Eric Stephens/ Fifth Game
T Morales/ Preseason (Freshman Center)
Let’s analyze the list to the key contributors who missed more than one game due to injury by order of impact:
Stephens: Season ending, Game 5. Our biggest loss.
Mackey: Lung, 2 games?
Moore: 3 games?
The other injuries were to reserves or to underclassmen or to other players where we had serviceable backups. For example, our productivity did not seem to decline noticeably when Keown, Langley, Franks or James missed a game or two during the season.
When Keown was injured, McDaniel, Carpenter and Gallington filled in admirably, which is what you expect from your maturing backup linemen.
Because our receiving corp is so deep, temporary losses of James and Franks were not that noticeable. I am not completely sold on the impact of Moore’s injury, because other than his performance against Baylor’s equally porous defense, he did not really shine against more talented teams. Nevertheless, when he played early in the season against less talented competition, prior to his injury, he played well.
Langley was a a reserve DE/DL on a defence that struggled before and after his injury.
Similarly, when Mackey was healthy we gave up a bazillion rushing yards to Texas State just like we did against our competition after his injury.
Based on this assessment, it is my view that the injuries we suffered (with the exception of Stephens) was “par for the course.”
You also have to look at these injuries to see how they specifically contributed to drubbings at the hands of Iowa State, Texas, Oklahoma State, Baylor etc.
We may still have lost those games, but the margins of defeat suggest that there was more going on than just a bump to Davis’ noggin.
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Dec 21, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Your report is wrong, Moore was hurt before week 8, Bullitt had multiple dislocations
too long, didnt read the rest. You simply can’t downplay our injuries this season, no matter how long your post is.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Porter was the result of multiple concussions sustained throughout the season
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
It appears you think Mackey's collapsed lung was only an issue for two games?
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Keown's knee only a factor one week?
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Morales was 2-deep center pre-season
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
You asked for my justification, I provided it, now take the time to read it
Feel free to correct it – I admit it is not perfect, but it is referenced with a plausible source.
Feel free to address the methodology if you disagree with it.
You’re all over the board today (welcome back), so clearly you have a little time on your hands. . .
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Dec 21, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
I did go back and read, sorry my 31 year old was throwing cheese at me.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I know the feeling!
And by definition I AM trying to minimize the injury discussion from the great big giant balloon of an excuse that has been offered without sufficient substantiation.
I am trying to get to the bottom of where the injuries specifically hurt us, and that’s the point of putting a list like this, however imperfect, together.
I don’t suggest that my approach is correct, but I think it’s closer to the truth than what we’ve been sold so far.
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Dec 21, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
I hear you...
I think for me, if you would have told me that my #1 RB, #1WR, #1  Center, #1 DE, #1 DB would all go down with injuries that most would not return from, and i would lose my #2RB to suspension…..I would have taken 5 wins then and there. We may have the worst coach in D1, we certainly have some of the worst assistants…..but no team, with our depth wins eight with the roster that finished our season. Just my opinion.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
To Paraphrase a Certain Colonel
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We need you on this board!
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Dec 21, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
A little grade inflation?
#1 RB
Check
#2 WR
Moore was not our #1 WR, he was our #3 WR
Ward had 81 catches in 12 games (6.7 catches per game).
Moore had 47 catches in 9 games (5.2 catches per game).
Moore’s best games were against Texas State and New Mexico.
Out of 60 possible starts, our top 5 receivers missed a total of 4 starts. This does not seems unreasonable to me.
#1 Center
Check. Keown missed the first three games, all which we won. Keown was hurt against OU, a game which we won. Keown played hurt all year and was a warrior. Nevertheless, the team’s production did not fall off while he was out of the line up.
#2 Center
If you want to consider Tony Morales, a true freshman center who never played in college a critical loss to the team, feel free. If you believe a healthy Morales would have played instead of Gallington, McDaniel or Carpenter, that’s fine too.
#1 DB & #2 DB
I’m not sure who you are referring to here. We had five starters. In order of tackles:
1. Cody Davis (93 tackles) – missed one game.
2. DJ Johnson (83 tackles) – missed zero games
3. Terrance Bullitt (56 tackles) – missed zero games
4. Tre Porter (24 tackles) – missed 5 games, but was he our number one DB?
5. Derreck Mays – (20 tackles) – missed 2 games, but was he our number two DB?
6. Jarvis Phillips (16 tackles) – missed zero games
So out of 60 possible starts by our to 5 starting DBs, 8 games (5 by one player) were missed due to injury. This does not seem an unreasonable total.
#2 RB?
Are you referring to true freshman Ronnie Daniels, who played in one game and had 9 carries for 43 yards, and was later suspended?
Among our top 3 backup RBs (Williams, Crawford, Washington), Williams was the only one to miss any games (he missed two)
Source: CFB Stats
So what are we talking about here?
Facts please.
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Dec 21, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Lot of black and white in your post.
Bottom line, every key contributor to our team except, Doege, Smith, and Carona went down with serious injuries, and most did not return anywhere near 100% that was my point, don’t see anything here that refutes that, do you?
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
+1.5 babes in a manger
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Here's what you are missing
Injuries linger. The player is never “fully recovered” until next season. And sometimes even more than one off-season is required to compeletely rehabilitate the player.
This is especially true of “skill position” players like RB’s, QB’s and WR’s. A perfect example is Crabtree. Look at his performance and production before and after his ankle injury. Like night and day. The same can be said for Moore this season. Again, another ankle injury, and the production before and after was dramatic. He just was not the same player, especially if he had to push-off on the injured ankle. I’m sure if you break down the other players, you will see a parallel.
You may have “the facts”, but “the truth” is deeper than that. And as your movie reference implies – - can you handle the truth?
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
I accept that injuries linger
My point is that the injuries we suffered, with the exception of Stephens, do not appear to be overwhelmingly different than those of other teams or even previous teams.
All teams have injuries, all injuries linger. When those injuries occur often determines how long those injuries will linger.
I would like to find out the truth as well. I find that looking at facts is usually a good place to start.
I’m trying to go through the roster and determine how any of these injuries led to multiple blowout losses over the second half of the year.
I am struggling to find a meaningful connection.
Based on the multiple coaching firings by TT, it appears he and I share a similar view on this point.
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Dec 21, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
point is..
Injuries happen, bad calls happen, penalties happen…every team in the Big 12 can point to injuries that hurt their team…Good teams, well coached teams…..overcome…bad teams, bad coached teams…make excuses.
Aggy was down to their 3rd string RB, Longhorns were down to their 4th string RB, OU had to use a walk-on at RB…….I believe they ALL had better records than we did.
i long for the old days….when we had no “injuries” at Texas Tech.
I hope these changes will fix coaching problems from this past season
TT has to make changes and i am glad he is for 2 reason
1. it might be the necessary difference to get us back on the winning track
2. he cannot delay his own firing by doing this next year … but i supposed he can always ask for more time to allow the changes to take hold, but the counter to that would be why didn’t this happen 2 years ago as he isn’t a brand new head coach
i say move along and if necessary move on
listening to sports radio
Talk about the 49ers yesterday, and I had one of those “duh!” moments. It’s been the Niners defense that has kept them in games. They don’t have a great QB but have a solid running attack. The problem is that if the Niners ever get down by more than 2 scores they are screwed, because they lack the ability to move the ball down field quickly ie Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees style.
I feel that is where we were at. I am perfectly fine with run first, control the game, make them work. However, none of those philosophies have panned out for Tubby. If we are going to be run first, we have to have a solid defense that stops the majority of the plays and gets the ball back to the offense.
Like it was said above, I hate to see this many defenses in so many years, but I am glad to see that changes are being made at the top.
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. – Life on the Mississippi
by LBKpiratefan on Dec 21, 2011 6:34 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Not exactly how you want to start your morning...
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Switching Schemes
We didn’t run the 3-4 much in 2010 for various reasons, but took time to teach a new scheme. The 4-2-5 was a big change.
The 4-3 has been the standard since the late 60s and every player should be somewhat familiar with it, so shouldn’t be a problem switching to it. I just hope we don’t complicate it like Lyle did.
Problem is all of our 4-3 defensive players quit the team.
All we have left is DE. Great, another excuse for next year.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
by Btech on Dec 21, 2011 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hitting the panic button?
My two cents:
1. I sense some panic from TeleTubby in that if there is not some improvement (primarily defense) next year he’ll be packing his bags. Imagine the emails from the alum to the AD after the OSU, UT and Baylor games. He’s more comfortable with the 4-3.
2. Panic also seems the underlying reason for so many JUCOs. I’m not sure any Tech defensive scheme could stop the run without some better talent. They tried adjustments all year to no effect. Once again, if the only defensive stops are halftime and the end of the game (UT) then Tubby will go the way of Turner Gill.
I think unless it's 8 wins he'll be packing his bags anyway
I can’t emphasize enough how much leadership means to a team. Just look at SF. Name me one new player that the 49ers have on this year’s team (who is making a difference) that they didn’t have last year. It all starts at the top.
"Oh,we played about like three tons of buzzard puke this afternoon." Spike Dykes
by rpowel2 on Dec 21, 2011 7:56 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree except...
Rookie Aldon Smith has made a huge difference with the pass rush. But you are so right about leadership with the added plus of being able to work closely with the quarterback.
You have to believe there is panic. There should be panic when you are unsuccessful in your job.
Tubbs doesnt want to be known as the man to crash this progam and lose a job. He has always coached a 4-3 so the heat is setting in and he is ready to be more of a DC. I think the JUCO route sucks in many programs, it brings a couple good years and drops hard(f.e Leach did this on defense often), but following last years performance. We need experience and age. It was crystal clear that our players were asked to do more than what they were ready for.
Next year does not have to be a horrible year.
it doesn't have to be but I think it will be
not beating a dead horse just looking at the reality. I don’t see how our current lineup of defenders can switch to anything and be successful. We don’t have the personnel or the attacking style to get it done. Mackey not who we thought he was and doubtful the JUCOs could add enough punch to take us out of the bottom 10% of defenses in the nation.
"Oh,we played about like three tons of buzzard puke this afternoon." Spike Dykes
Yep, Mackey never recovered from a collapsed lung
Those close to the program estimate he was at 50-60%% after his injury.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I appreciate that
sometimes I just look at the stats sheet and forget about the whole story
"Oh,we played about like three tons of buzzard puke this afternoon." Spike Dykes
How unlucky was that. How many players start their season off with a collapsed lung.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
He should have gone with what he was comfortable from the beginning. I’m starting to think he is more of a SALESMAN than coach.
Get your kicks, on route 66...
the auto industry has had a down year....
so there is that….
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Conspiracy Theories...
Why are we so certain that anonymous enemies of the program are behind the publication of our coaching change? Don’t Feldman’s sources have to be inside our own
program? Even if A&M wants to steal our JUCO recruits, it’s not like they could get this story out there on their own.
Also… the conspiracy theory completely overlooks Tuberville’s ability to fuck things up with bad timing all by himself.
While I agree it your theory of complete and utter incompetence plays well here..
do you honestly think that this or any coach would fire his DC the night before he tries to sign two huge defensive recruits? You don’t find it the least bit strange who reported the information, and when?
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I think a more likely scenarios are ...
1) a resignation that was supposed to be kept secret for a few days
2) a demotion to co-coordinator that was supposed to be kept secret for a few days
3) speculation around the two new hires and the switch to a 4-3
Regardless, our program has been clear that they intended to make no announcement on the matter yesterday, and some one outside of the program had a different idea.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I think your analysis is probably right for the most part...
and I don’t think that Tuberville intended to put this info out there at such a bad time (probably, really I never know with that guy anymore).
SPECULATION ALERT: What I think probably happened is that some assistant that serves as Feldman’s source misunderstood the situation and thought Glasgow was being fired (or maybe firing Glasgow was really discussed) and took that info to Feldman. Feldman, trusting his source, put it into the public domain. You can’t deny that it’s newsworthy if it’s true.
What I don’t think happened is that someone at A&M or elsewhere heard about this and tried to use it to submarine Tech… and it’s hard for me to believe that someone like Feldman (who has been the victim of backroom politicking) would be deliberately malicious. Plus, his credibility is on the line… the last thing he wants is for people to start thinking of him the way they think of Sports by Brooks.
You are probably right
But changes to our position coaches, at this stage in our national relevance, are only important to a hand full of people……I would not consider that newsworthy.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Not necessarily a conspiracy but there is lots of mud slinging that goes on. Think about dating in JR high or maybe High School, “you dont want to go with that guy, hes ____ _ and ____”
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A good reporter (and Feldman is a good reporter) knows all about agendas when he talks to sources
It’s his stock in trade in getting people to talk. But his own stock in trade is accurate reporting. Agenda or no, he is only going to report it if he is highly confident it is true.
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
I have found Feldman to be rumor mongering on several occasions especially in Tech related issues
Even before the Leach fiasco, he wasn’t particularly fond of Tech and usually reported only the negative things, this was no exception.
Feldman, Sportsbybrooks and a few others have spent a lot of time in negatively reporting Tech based on unsubstantiated sources over the past decade or so. The Leach firing has only given them more ammunition to do so. I am not sure why they don’t like Tech or what they have against the school but if you look over the past ten years most of the Tech related information passed on by those two sources is mostly negative and often under-researched.
funny thing
I got my year-end review yesterday…….all it said was “not fired”…………….Merry Christmas to all.
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
4-3 and 4-2-5
Are basically the same defense. Running the nickel package of the 4-3 is the 4-2-5. So I don’t see why you can’t keep Glasgow.
On one hand, I hate to see another DC change. This will mean that the life expectancy of a DC at Tech is 12 months. On the other hand, our D was so bad that there’s only one way to go. Yeah, I know we said the same thing last year, and look what happened.
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
I agree. I think dumping Glasgow after one season isn’t the answer. It sends a bad message to players and staff combined. I don’t know too much about Glasgow but I have to believe he can make this adjustment in the defensive scheme. These coaches are all wearing bulls eyes which is probably a good thing but lets make sure we send the problem packing and not just a fall guy.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
Go Sonny Dykes!
Beat TCU tonight, then come to Tech and continue to do so! In all seriousness, Tubs sees the writing on the wall, and unless dramatic improvements are made next year, he is gone. Because of that, and because Sumlin went sheepy, I think Sonny will be on the short list for our next coach. I will sure be watching tonight!
by TexasTechForever on Dec 21, 2011 8:15 AM CST reply actions
I'll be watching too!
Sonny’s done a good job at LaTech. I’m keeping an eye on him.
Would really like to see Dykes here
I think he would have the same attitude as his dad to higher powers “get lost”
I wish you were right
but it’s a hot rumor he is going to Houston.
by Leacherhere on Dec 21, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Jim Turner
A great hire by the way. Welcome to the chaos Jim!
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
I agree, i think this guy is solid.
"When you are right no one remembers, when you are wrong no one forgets."
Yep, this guy helped Aggies to 6-6 season;
and by the way, they could not block anybody in the second half.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
The guys is widely considered one of the best...
at least Ohio State thinks so. I read enough here to know where your mind is at, but in case you want a an excuse for “optimism Wednesday”, there is a nugget. If this guy’s stats as an O-Line coach are up to snuff, I would be interested to know what O-Line hires you think are up to standards?
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I don't have any. I am just freaking out this morning.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
Good point...otherwise
he would probably have better opportunities than joining the tub-boat crew.
"When you are right no one remembers, when you are wrong no one forgets."
I think the 4-3 is a good idea but its not gonna solve the issues we have with the undersized DL and LB’s. But I am all for Tuberville doing what he knows best. I don’t think he was comfortable with Glasgows D and i think he now realizes he needs some experienced coaches to make this work. I am optimistic now seeing these changes being made that need to be made. As far as all these reports that of firings, i think there is some cover-up going on in an attempt to not look bad during this recruiting process.
Couldn't ask for a better pickup for OL Coach
My take on the Glasgow situation is that the medium is the message: he might not have been escorted out by security, but you don’t bring in a guy with Lovett’s experience and resume and then expect him to work underneath a 2nd year guy who just put a disaster out on the field in his debut season. As to alignment, we can run a 5-9 for all I care, just earn your paycheck every now and then, I beg you.
I agree...
I think this guy fits what Tuberville wants to do on offense… and I guess that’s all we can really ask anymore. He seems talented. His guys ran the hell over us anyway.
I am laughing my ass off this morning;
Tommy has to be the most unorganized and chaotic coach ever in the history of Division I Football, except for Mike Locksley of New Mexico. We are about to become the second worst football team in the country.
Tommy’s timing could not be any better. Criag James and Hance must be out to completely destroy our Football heritage.
I don’t know if these are good or bad football coaches, but at this point how can you even let a coach continue the way Tommy is gonig. We will be lucky to sign any recruits by signing day.
I reported after the Texas game that it was clear that both OC Brown and DC Glasgow would not even converse with Tommy on the sidelines, and I reported that this trend continued as the season played out. It is clear that neither Brown nor Glasgow respect Tommy.
Guys, we are in for one hell of a drought.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
by Btech on Dec 21, 2011 8:43 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Locksley
Is gone so that opens up a spot
College Football: "Our Traditions are now for Sale"
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"Well the ball just didnt bounce our way today" Tommy Tubervile, after decades of coaching experience, the best he can do ....................................................................................................................................
Blaze a trail, spend some time in West Texas, feel the sand sting your skin and burn your eyes, let the winter dry your hands, learn that its there only because our ancestors didn’t want to be around other people … that’s West Texas
You could be right....
But I think Tommy will be in good company lately with Mack Brown, Stoops, and Sherman. Let’s face it, Big 12 football is a mess. We don’t have the only grossly underperforming coach in this state, and I’m not sure you would like the replacement that would fall down to us next year either.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Speaking of Big 12 Football, that is a really good point.
This is a good re direct, which I am in need of this moring. But with all the chaos at Texas, TA&M, and Tech, how much will both TCU and Baylor benefit from all of this.
I was in College Station a couple of weeks ago, the same night Sherman was fired, and at dinner four gentlemen in their late 70’s early 80’s said they just came back from meeting and Sherman was fired. This was before the announcement.
They were very upset going to the SEC and leaving Big 12. They were not happy with their bow tie president.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
They will benefit greatly I fear...
UT, OU, and Tech are all down……O$U, Baylor, and TCU are on the rise. In the pecking order, this is why I can’t stomach a coaching change at this point. I fear UT and OU will be getting one soon as well. You consider that, and the wholesale changes this year in coaching, we will be getting scraps. Our choice will most likely be to keep our struggling veteran trying to find his mojo, or going back down the road of trying to guess which up and coming assistant is looking for a place to make a name for himself. Both are gambles, but one doesn’t involve ANOTHER coaching change at a critical time.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Well, one thing for sure, Tommy is all in for 2012.
I hope for all of us that he has a good hand, because if he is bluffing, Holy Shit, where’s the tylenol.
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
dont forget if things dont pan out in 2012
this gives him one more “excuse”…. the new coaches will need more “time”… Hance wont surrender to firing TT until 2013 season is over
by SPACECITYTECHSAN on Dec 21, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
I hate to tell you this...
But no one outside of this board thinks Tommy is on the hot-seat. You may be done with him. But Texas Tech is not in a position to fire a coach after three years, and no one that matters is discussing it.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I see Tubs at number 5
http://www.coacheshotseat.com/
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Dec 21, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Good point
Let me re-phrase by saying the people writing the checks have no intention of firing him.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
by TTUMAR on Dec 21, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I will give you that, I think the bunker mentality will ride this wherever it goes.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Dec 21, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Yah we heard that before.......
All that money that was going to quit coming in, in the meantime the athletic dept has more money than it ever has. I’m not picking on you, but those are the facts.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
That's TV Money - Forrest Gump couldn't squander all the TV money rolling in these days
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
That reminds me
Of a TV special I saw a while back on the middle-eastern oil countries. Some have squandered their income on palaces and such while spending nothing on real infrastructure and institutions (colleges, etc). Once the oil money dries up, they will be back to living in mud huts. An analogy I hope doesn’t apply to us.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
Our version of the oil drying up will be Realignment
If another round of realignment comes up & Tech isn’t deemed a worthy member of the Big Boys Club, God help the Texas Tech athletic dept. I doubt they could live on Mountain West or WAC TV money.
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
I havent been to a single TTU game since Mike was fired. I cant support the athletic program financially in principle until positive changes are made to improve the university’s reputation. (nothing to do with wins and losses). But yes people’s memories are short lived in this world.
Get your kicks, on route 66...
by ReneR on Dec 21, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Money talks
The powers at Tech will have no choice if seats are empty and donations slide. No matter how much power you might think Hance has he won’t sacrifice the revenue stream by keeping Tuberville for a 4th season.
He’s gone if he doesn’t get 7 wins without a doubt.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
I think you are right, ultimately...
But if one losing season causes our stands to be empty, we have much bigger problems. Just take the coach our of it. If losing 7 games means no fans, no coach we would want will come here, neither will recruits. You may get exactly what you want, I just hope you are happy with what you get.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
TTU has a very different situation. The fan base is very divided and Tuberville losing so many games isnt helping the cause. Many fans still feel cheated by the admin and sadly are looking for any excuse to pull donations.
Get your kicks, on route 66...
by ReneR on Dec 21, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
not so fast
Tech didn’t just get beaten…they got waxed!
Further 3 games were winnable with a serviceable defense (Kansas State, A&M, Missouri). But no one on the coaching staff had the ability to coach 11 young men, into a serviceable defense…not one coach to take charge and make a difference!
Good to chat with you again by the way.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
RRS.com
I take pictures for them from the sidelines as a hobby. Gave a huge Tech nerd an excuse to get to go to practice, sidelines for the games etc. But I was always checking in here.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I’m terrified that Tuby is safe for the duration of his contract. It’s a sad, sad realization that hit me days after BOWL QUALIFYING schools realized their coaches weren’t taking them in the right direction, while we stood pat with the guy responsible for the worst season in a quarter century.
by PBK on Dec 21, 2011 12:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's the problem
Hance is the one calling the shots for the football program..instead of Hocutt.
Out of all of the underperforming coaches in the Big12...
I would say that Tommy Tuberville is outperforming all of them in underperformance…
"Transition is hard." - TT
by Houston Raider on Dec 21, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Finally a positive comment about Tuberville, he is excelling in under-performance.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Dec 21, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
At this point in the game,
I’ll take a decent rushing offense and an average 4-3-4 defense. While it might not be 4000 yards passing a season, I can live with it.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Didn't fall as far as UT or A&M
find the silver lining, it’s Christmas.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
so you're saying we
can’t even beat them in falling?
Have a nice day……………………..unless you have other plans.
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Nope, we are coming in third at sucking in Texas.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
now I am depressed
"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.
I'm trying to find the silver lining...
but I just read an article about how the tree that produces frankincense is going extinct… it’s tough to be merry this Christmas…
wow, that is depressing. Thanks for that...
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
As long as I get my annual supply of Myrrh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIjBO26qjYM&feature=fvsr
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
by mbrown603 on Dec 21, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Now you have done it, rec’d
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Dec 21, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
It is the Christmas season - Merry Christmas to all and to all a good laugh
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
I'll take the 75th best defense out of 120. That would be heaven at this point
I don’t care what they call the scheme. Just stop teams from running it down our throat all night. How could any above average FBS program (and Texas Tech has been an above average FBS program since Spike Dykes arrived) be that spectacularly bad at defense two years in a row? Just fix it or quit if you don’t understand how to stop Big 12 offenses.
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
define decent rushing offense....
Tubs will need a better working definition for his reference point
by SPACECITYTECHSAN on Dec 21, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
I'm afraid I can't supply him with that,
but if I was going to make an attempt…
5.6 YPC
250+ yards per game
that seems like asking a lot.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Hey, I just want to rec something.
Somebody say something worthy.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Dec 21, 2011 9:31 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Something worthy
James Worthy, famous LA Laker
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
by mbrown603 on Dec 21, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd the both of you
have a nice day……………….unless you have other plans.
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Texas Tech Football....
We are building this plane as we are flying it.
This is a 3 ring circus up in here......
by oldschoolraider on Dec 21, 2011 9:50 AM CST reply actions
It feels like we hit the ground already
So that will give us a steady base to start gathering up all the broken pieces. What to do with all that scrap metal?
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
I've
Used that statement a bunch….and it never made sense until these last 2 years of tubs. We are the quilt of college football.
This is a 3 ring circus up in here......
by oldschoolraider on Dec 21, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
what time does Kass make his announcement or has he already gone sooner?
by SPACECITYTECHSAN on Dec 21, 2011 9:55 AM CST reply actions
11:00am I believe, and Jacobs at 2:00pm
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Got that reversed....
Jacobs at 11:00am, Everett at 2:00pm
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
So funny Glasgow story..
I believe it was the O$U game, Tommy is chewing on Glasgow over the headset for all to hear, and finishes his critique with “or I will send your ass back to TCU!”
I don’t care where you are from that is funny. I know many of you hate the guy, think he has no fire, think he is ruining your program etc..I
m telling you, if you spend some time on the sideline…this guy is full of fire and funny….just win Tommy win.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
maybe he got caught in up the hire the young assistant trend that was working for other schools
I still don’t know why he hasn’t just coached the defense himself isn’t that what he was known for is being a defensive mind?
There is way too much speculation for me to make sense of any of this.
It will come clear soon enough for me.
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
While we are at it
If we are changing DC’s and Defense we mine as well change our OC.
He’s got one foot out the door anyway.
Understandable.
Firing Glasgow is disappointing for the mere fact that his system is solid if given enough time and are recruiting the right players. Time is what Tommy doesn’t have right now and this is why you see a mad scramble to change fast and bring in experienced coaches who know his 4-3 system. As I mentioned yesterday in the recruiting blog, I expected a 4-2/4-3 hybrid anyway next season with the addition of the Ole Miss coaches so I can’t say it’s suprising that the CG firing rumours have steam.
It makes perfect sense to stop the run first w/7-8 men in the box and let your DB’s handle the rest in man coverage. Isn’t the basic priniciple of any defense – stop the run first and disrupt the passer? Motivation by fear is a powerful thing and we now see Tommy reacting to that pressure. Here’s hoping we see results.
"They name hurricanes after winds like we have in Lubbock." Coach Tommy Tuberville
Would you prefer we still had Otis Mounds?
Are you familiar with the phrase “can’t win for trying”? I visit DTN in November and the mob wants heads to roll, then I visit in December and the mob says too many heads rolled. UT went 5-7 and replaced everyone. Any team that that goes 5-7 should replace coaches. perhaps you could provide your plan for addressing these problems without coaching changes?
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
only one replacement needed...
"Oh,we played about like three tons of buzzard puke this afternoon." Spike Dykes
And replace with who?
paint me not interested in cutting off my nose despite my face.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
I lobbied post Leach for Sumlin
I liked what he was doing at UH and saw his potential as a great fit for Texas Tech. Not a coach who “won with defense” and had two of the best RB recruits in the history of college FB to hang his hat on. There are a lot of talented men who can motivate and do so in a way that doesn’t a) change the system and b) become more discombobulated as time goes on. Tubs said he would “keep things the same.” BS
"Oh,we played about like three tons of buzzard puke this afternoon." Spike Dykes
I think you may get your shot at Sumlin soon.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
you're probably right
where does Sumlin make more sense? TT and the Big 12 or ATM and the SEC? If he has success there, think what might’ve been at Tech.
"Oh,we played about like three tons of buzzard puke this afternoon." Spike Dykes
I would rather have Kliff as OC
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
easily better in the Big 12
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
You're right about a coaching change being needed
Why is T still here?
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
Same reason Mack is...
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Because Tuberville brought us 10 10 win seasons in a row before going 5-7?
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
Nope he gave you 8 wins, so touche
But he gave you eight wins his first season, and the first bowl victory by a first year Tech coach, beat Colorado for the first time at Boulder, beat OU in Norman, got you your first top 15 recruiting class, probably another Top 25 class this year, huge donations etc.etc…….listen you want him gone, i get it, you may get your way. The reasons why you don’t fire a 2nd year head coach who did the above is obvious to me. It’s also obvious why you want a coached fired who you never liked in the first place after a losing season. It all makes sense, we shall just wait and see how it plays out, agreed?
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
He got us 8 wins with players who won 20 games in the previous 2 years
That can’t be spun as a good thing. That’s a fail.
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
You could have just said agreed, it all makes sense.
Your not going to be able to prove that first year head coaches of teams who average 8 wins should win more than 8 games their first year. Lets not have the old fights, lets talk recruiting.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
20 / 2 = 10
potato potaato
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
by TechFirst on Dec 21, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and the fans are just as pissed off and crazy
"We have some injuries on our team, but that won't make a difference in this game." - Coach TT Nov. 19, 2002 going into the Iron Bowl
Every Day Is an Opportunity for a New Start
I haven’t been visiting as much lately because I get tired of people feeling sorry for themselves.The doom and gloom, just like excessive optimism is unwarranted.
Texas Tech has a track record. Coach Tuberville has a track record. Neither supports the conclusion that Tech will be down for long (or that Tech will compete for a national title). That having been said, every situation is what you make of it. Tuberville’s moves this offseason are justified based on what we’ve seen on the field the last two years. Injuries have been chronic and may be the negative joker; but, boring and crappy is still just that.
Getting A7M’s offensive line coach is amajor plus. A7M’s line has pushed Texas Tech all over the field the last three years. As concerns the defense, changing from what was one of the worst defenses in the country into anything different can only be good.
I think bringing in the JUCOs from winning programs for an immediate shoring up of the top forty players is also intelligent. The remainder of the recruiting class will evidence what this staff is made of with regard to recruiting.
This coaching staff is all on the hot seat going into next year, and they know it. It is put up or shut up time. They either get the team motivated and excited to play or hire realtors.
As a fan, I’m glad to see a sober assessment of what happened and what needs to happen. I don’t give a crap about style. Texas Tech needs to win now. Moreover, Texas Tech needs to play West Texas tough, the way they have traditionally played. I’m going to buy season tickets again next year and make the trek from El Paso to watch the Red Raiders play. I expect more for my hard earned money and will not continue to waste my time if there is not a dramatic attitude shift demonstrated on the field.
by EPRAIDER82 on Dec 21, 2011 10:53 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Tuberville needs to quit
dicking around and do what he needs to do.If he doesn’t want to throw the ball then make that change.If he wants to throw everybody out and start over then do it.I don’t give a damn what he runs on offense or If he has a &^%%^** defense.Just get a product on the field that is respectable and winning.In the word of Kelly to his fans on the field this year,he should have stepped up to the podium yesterday and said-WILL YOU SHUT UP!That is what a leader does.
Jacobs to Florida....
MUSCHCAMP!
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
By the way...I guess JUCOs are good enough for Florida?
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
was TT even in his short list?
"We have some injuries on our team, but that won't make a difference in this game." - Coach TT Nov. 19, 2002 going into the Iron Bowl
Although Aggie said it was Tech and A&M..
But you know how everyone wants to go to Aggie
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
check the tweet screen to the right.......klbk says
Glascow gone.
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Yep
Just got a tweet saying he’s moving on to other opportunities elsewhere.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
Awesome....
Texas Tech, where you get your big break and fired from your big break in 345 days.
by idaho_techsan on Dec 21, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
If it's a done deal...
I would prefer some deliberation before hiring our next DC
No knee jerk hire…
looks like...
our JUCO guys are stacking up. Lots of signees today so far!
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
The LB from MIss. looks to be a good one. Also, Bell on offense is ours.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
Bell is a true freak....
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
too little too late?
thats the sense i get from tubs and all the recent firings. Dont get how a successful coach SEC coach like Tubs goes into a major D-1 program like Tech and SEVERELY underestimates B12 competition. I know those SEC folks think their shit dont stink but this was a HUGE mistake on Tubs part. Wow. Now hes scrambling to get the (i hope at least) the right people to get this turned around but i think we are past the point of safe return. Our team is down-trodden and i see not a whole lot to get me excitied for next season. My tune might slighty change once NSD rolls around and we sign our kids, but IMO Tubs is coaching for his job this upcoming season. Kirby needs to take a hardline stance on this and make it clear to Tubs that if the ship isnt righted, then he will get someone that will.
P.S.
If tubs is gone after next season, i would like to see Sonny Dykes get a shot at the job.
sad tech fan is sad :(
No way to spin this loss.
Losing a D-coordinator now is horrible timing. It may be necessary given what we saw on the field, but horrible timing. I would appreciate coach holding a press conference and explaining his version of why.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
agreed
but most likely a press release will be sent out saying thanks all that nice pleasant stuff
sad tech fan is sad :(
by wrench_raider on Dec 21, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
If we want Sonny
we better offer quick otherwise he is going to Houston.
by Leacherhere on Dec 21, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
just saying
that other than him and MAYBE art briles( which im not real big on) im drawing a blank on a potential HC candidate might be. :/
sad tech fan is sad :(
by wrench_raider on Dec 21, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
yeah
the candidate must be a offensive guy. it wouldnt bother me if he had no previous ties to texas, thats why you hire assistants for.
sad tech fan is sad :(
by wrench_raider on Dec 21, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Sonny is at La.Tech
He can’t hold Art’s jock strap……..and we shall see what we think of Art after two season without Griffin.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
Okay,
Something funny is going on. I haven’t had much time for football in the last week or two, but this doesn’t fit the trajectory of what I was told to expect. Something has changed recently.
I’ll stop by and talk to the grapevine later today and see what’s what.
by Raider289 on Dec 21, 2011 11:39 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Okay
My folks are being pretty tight-lipped because they have been looking for leakers for a while now.
With that said, they are speculating that some of this funny maneuvering we have been seeing might be coming from above Tubs, by people who don’t usually handle this stuff. If that’s the case, too many chiefs and not enough indians would explain the sloppy maneuvering in the last few weeks. This funny buisness lately is appreciably different and does not fit what we know about how Tubs fly’s the ship.
It was supposed to be a fairly quiet off-season with a few little changes- maybe a couple of guys come and go, not a major overhaul.
My feelings are simmilar- someone got serious when the horse already left the barn, OR someone else took control of it and is making changes.
If Blayne Beal is not on vacation, then he has lost control of his duties. Wonder about that, too.
Hocutt should force TT to be the DC...
he should just tell him that we aren’t hiring a third DC in three years and that Tuberville needs to start earning that $2mil contract… make him work for it instead of “coaching” ST and meddling with everyone else
We can use Glasgow's money for a Jumbotron!
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
or a stadium full of frankincense... we need to start hoarding that stuff before the coming shortage
What about that doomsday seed facility in Norway or somewhere
They have our back.
"Dress good, yu'll play good. Play good, yu'll get paid good." -Deion Sanders
2012 is starting in 10 days
The world is coming to an end anyway. John Cusack foretold it all. Or more accurately, Woody Harellson foretold it to John Cusack who saved his family one step ahead of a collapsing North America at least 20 different times. That guy is the luckiest SOB who ever lived. And he did it all in a stretch limo! What are the odds?
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
Really. We install the HD widescreen in 2010 & we are still sending standard definition signals to it
If you’re too cheap to buy HD cameras, at least rent some on gamedays.
"...Fight for the school we love so dearly"
reminds me of the in-laws
they’ve had a 60" hi-def for years now and still haven’t bothered actually hooking an HD signal up to it. Nothing uglier than SD on an HD display
by mojavereject on Dec 21, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
If I got some HD cameras and gave them to tech...
could I get my name on something cool?
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Maybe the Blackbeard/Hance Chapel?
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Dec 21, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
was that a Cartman impression?
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Dec 21, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of that, where the hell is KWash?
O my God, they killed Kenny!!!!!
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Those bastards
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
Sorry, I was interviewing for the DC gig at Tech,
what did I miss?
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Not much, but we did rename the stadium to
Blackbeard Jones Stadium…………I know it kinda sounds like a pimp or porn star…………but it has a nice ring to it.
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Blackbeard-Jones Stadium
You are in our house bitches……..deal with it.
by Red and Black 71 on Dec 21, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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