Parsing Phil Steele's 2011 Preseason All-Big 12 Teams
Phil Steele released his 2011 Preseason All-Big 12 Teams and there were only a handful of Red Raiders represented:
1st Team Offense: OG Lonnie Edwards
2nd Team Offense: None
3rd Team Offense: RB Eric Stephens and OT Mickey Okafor
4th Team Offense: WR Alexander Torres
1st Team Defense: None
2nd Team Defense: S Cody Davis
3rd Team Defense: None
4th Team Defense: None
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For me, the tough thing is to judge something like this is that it's tough for me to know whether or not there were certain Red Raiders not receiving the attention that they deserve because it's tough, for me, to judge the relative talent across the conference. With that being said, I think the right Texas Tech players were recognized and I think that preseason teams tend to reveal what people are thinking about the conference in general. Teams are either highly thought of and as a result have a lot of players on these teams and then the season plays out and things are a bit different.
THE OFFENSE | I'll start with the line and try to do a bit of a comparison. Oklahoma St. returns all 5 starters, led the conference in sacks given up and 4th in the conference in rushing. They have 2 on the 1st team and 1 on the 3rd team. Texas replaces 3 starters on their offense line, was 2nd in conference in sacks allowed and 7th in rushing and garner 2 selections on their 4th team. Oklahoma was 6th in the conference in sacks given up and 10th in rushing, but garner 1 player on the 1st team, 1 on the 2nd team. TAMU returns 3 starters, was 12th in the conference in sacks given up and 5th in rushing while receiving 1 player each on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th teams. Missouri returns 4 starters, was 6th in sacks given up and 6th in rushing and receive 1 each on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams. Kansas returns 3 starters, was 11th in sacks allowed and last in sacks, yet have 2 players on the 4th team. Baylor returns 4 starters (I think) was 3rd on sacks allowed and 3rd in rushing.
Texas Tech returns all 5 starters, was 4th in sacks allowed (21 sacks allowed total) and 9th in rushing (141.37 YPG). And those numbers are better than what they were in 2009 (31 sacks allowed and 84 YPG). I think that Texas Tech may be the only team that returns all 5 starters and if anyone is banking on the offense being better in terms of sacks allowed and rushing, it should be Texas Tech. I know, a lot of you feel the offense wasn't up to its standards, but truth be told, I thought the problem for the offense wasn't necessarily the production, but the consistency and returning all 5 starters helps out a ton. Granted a bunch of this hinges on the play of the quarterback, but I still think that the Texas Tech offensive line should have received a bit more attention. You could make the argument that LaAdrian Waddle was an omission, but I've really come around on Justin Keown and Deveric Gallington his hardly ever mentioned and there's usually a reason for that.
So much more after the jump.
And it should probably be noted that Baylor loses the best offensive lineman in Danny Watkins, yet had one of the best overall offenses last year. They should be complaining, perhaps, the most.
I have no complaints about running back and receiver. Stephens is about where he should be and given that he might not get the carries that Steele anticipates because of the overall talent at the position, he might not be a 3rd team player by the end of the year. With the graduation of Lyle Leong and Detron Lewis, by far Texas Tech's best receivers, only giving Torres some credit for his 2009 season seems appropriate.
If I'm considering those players who could step up, the returning players are inconsistent. Tramain Swindall and Jacoby Franks have always been inconsistent. Cornelius Douglas can be terrific as can Austin Zouzalik, but they need to produce each and every game. There will be 2 new starting outside receivers and if I'd love it if 2 of Eric Ward, Marcus Kennard, Darrin Moore or Swindall would step up their play to all-conference play. I'm not sure that I can pick one or another, but by the end of the year I'm confident that someone is going to surprise, I'm just not sure who it is yet.
And if Jace Amaro isn't the buzz of the conference, I'll be shocked. I think he's that good.
And although I like Seth Doege, I don't think he's better than the 4 players named.
THE DEFENSE | The thing that stands out to me is that there really isn't anyone on defense that opponents fear and/or recognize as being a good defender. And I think that right now, this opinion is justified. There are a couple of guys that I think will make an impact by the time its all said and done. I do think that Cody Davis will continue to be solid and I think he'll be even better this year in the 4-2-5. Safeties in the 4-2-5 are usually the high tacklers and I would expect that Davis will continue to be a solid all-conference player. It's tough to take a leap of faith on these sorts of preseason lists, although Steele makes an admitted leap of faith naming Malcolm Brown to his first team offense without playing a collegiate snap, but if you were to ask me, I'd be taking a leap of faith in CB Tre'Porter, S Terrance Bullitt, LB Cqulin Hubert, DE Scott Smith and DE/DT Leon Mackey all making a significant impact by the time that the 2011 season is completed.
Because Porter had not really found a position last year as he flip-flopped between safety and cornerback, I think it held him back a bit. He still finished with 76 tackles, as a true freshman, 4 TFL and 6 passes broken up. That's pretty good production from a true freshman. Bullitt is a guy that is a true leap of faith, but the coaching staff brought up his name a handful of times during the spring practices, which leads me to believe that they think he's going to be very good. With his size and speed and where he'll play, i.e. the strong safety spot, I think that Bullit is bound to burst on the scene especially if Texas Tech even has a bit of better play from the defensive line and cornerbacks, which I think that they will.
Hubert will be in the middle of it and I think that by the end of the year, he'll be in the all-conference discussion. Although I love them, Hubert has significantly better speed with relatively the same size as guys like Bront Bird and Brian Duncan did last year. Hubert is aggressive and I think he tends to over-run plays a bit, but I also think that by the end of the year we're going to marvel about how Hubert is a playmaker, whether it be making plays behind the line of scrimmage or running down plays, he's got the tools to be a significant player next year.
From what we saw of Smith last year, there's no doubt that he makes a significant impact, so long as he plays. In only 5 games last year, Smith finished with 4.0 TFL, 3 sacks and 14 tackles. Smith fancies himself as a pure rusher although I think that a part of this was the way that Willis ran the defense last year (or at least I hope so) and too often was simply running up the field without playing the run as much, but I'm willing to guess that as long as Smith is on the field, he's going to have to be accounted for by the opposing offense. I think that Smith's technique will be better and as a result, I think he's going to be a better player. Mackey is my true wild-card, but there were too many good schools that have been after Mackey over the years for people to be wrong about his talent. Between his JUCO and prep school stops, I think he committed to Virginia Tech and South Carolina while having offers from Alabama just last year. I wish I could tell you that I've seen film of Mackey and try to back some of this up with some sort of tangible thoughts on how he'll fit and so I'm basing this on a hunch more than anything else. Very scientific.
OVERALL | Turfburner's Jay Beck broke down which teams had the most picks:
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | 4th Team | Total | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Texas A&M | 4 | 2 | 6 | 7 | 19 |
| Oklahoma | 6 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 16 |
| Texas | 4 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 11 |
| Oklahoma State | 4 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 11 |
| Missouri | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 11 |
| Baylor | 0 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 7 |
| Kansas State | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 6 |
| Kansas | 0 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 5 |
| Texas Tech | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 5 |
| Iowa State | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 5 |
You may not like it, but TAMU is the preseason darling of the conference. Get used to it for the summer. I do think that some of it is warranted, they return some excellent skill position players, as does Oklahoma St. and Oklahoma. I'm probably the most surprised by Texas receiving 11 players, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
If anything, this should be motivation for the Texas Tech players. I'd guess that Steele will be similar to the other preseason magazines, which is that the press probably won't think much of Texas Tech's chances this year. Texas Tech put out a press release and if it were me, I'd post it in the locker room and let everyone know that there are going to be a lot of the press that doesn't think much of the talent. Defensively, that thought certainly has merit after last year's showing, but it's a new year and it's a new scheme and there is opportunity for this team to shine.
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I agree, post Phil Steele's 2011 Preseason All-Big 12 Teams in the locker room.
I think the potential for Tech next year is high even though team experience is low especially at QB, the defense as a whole, and special teams. The pluses are: a much more simple defensive scheme, a much needed infusion of talent on the defensive line (size and speed), in the running back positions (speed and strength), and a returning OL with significant improvement in depth. The real question: Can Tubberville and the rest of the staff force multiply these talents into an elevated and consistent team performance.
"Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." Don Shula
Thats the beauty of this year we are returning to that doormat of a team that is going to really whip some a$$, no one outside of us really knows all the postive energy that is being generated!
Hey Tubs this is the Wild West, Good guys wear white, were the Red Raiders we wear BLACK. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Dont buy the Espn/Disney/ABC hype ! Playoffs are just spin to hide their agenda of owning our favorite sport.
To pick a UT RB
as the first team shows a front running mentality…..please tell me what in the last few years would even hint that they would have a first rate running game?
They won’t even have the best running game in big 12-2 with orange as its primary color (although its prison jumpsuit orange versus earwax orange).
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on May 31, 2011 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
i like the way you said it
The first time
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
by blackbeard on May 31, 2011 6:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
To pick a UT RB
as the first team shows a front running mentality…..please tell me what in the last few years would even hint that they would have a first rate running game?
They won’t even have the best running game in big 12-2 with orange as its primary color (although its prison jumpsuit orange versus earwax orange).
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on May 31, 2011 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
Media Perception
of Texas Tech is as low now as its been in ten years. I’ve posted this elsewhere and here before. Texas Tech is completely off of everyone’s radar screen at this point. It is like we have zero Division 1 history in the eyes of the media.
This year’s Texas Tech team will begin making the reputation that Coach Tuberville’s teams will carry in the future. As of this point in time, it is as if Texas Tech has never previously existed. That is both good and bad. If Tech plays hard and well, it is all good. If Tech plays poorly, we’ll get lumped with Kansas as historically Big 12 suckage.
What’s it going to be team?
Thats a good point like Mike Leach never existed and I think they have just about convinced me of that for a few reasons. No other coach could every carry that forward (except maybe DH) , He never put us on the talent/recruiting radar screen.
We are basically starting over, new phillosophy, new uniforms, new attitude so I have no problem with where the national media puts us. The expectations last year left me noting but disappointed, guess I shouldve known better
Hey Tubs this is the Wild West, Good guys wear white, were the Red Raiders we wear BLACK. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Dont buy the Espn/Disney/ABC hype ! Playoffs are just spin to hide their agenda of owning our favorite sport.
The key to success for Tech on the football field will be
whether or not Tuberville can resist the urge to meddle in things that he knows nothing about, like: offense, defense, and special teams. The rubber chicken circuit where he can spout mindless cliches to boosters who need to feel important is where he does his best work. Glaskow should bring the defense along and if Brown can mature a bit, we should be back to being a respectable team.
"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, it's just they know so much that isn't so" Ronald Reagan
No argument
I don’t see any first teamers and I think putting Davis as a second teamer is very questionable. After this season I expect we’ll have plenty of guys who look like first teamers among the Big 12. Last years squad looked pretty bad defensively but better talent and defensive play is on it’s way.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
"We started too late" - Neal Brown
We only gave up 21 sacks last year?
"What the hell did you do that for"... Tubs Mom
Thats all the running plays we did and dont forget Potts is the size of Ben
Hey Tubs this is the Wild West, Good guys wear white, were the Red Raiders we wear BLACK. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Dont buy the Espn/Disney/ABC hype ! Playoffs are just spin to hide their agenda of owning our favorite sport.
Preseason first teams are like a#$$holes eveyone has one..
It’s a predictable prediction on who the media goes about picking as its preseason darlings. I agree with Seth none of us should be surprised by Atm and TU getting love. The same kids on their rosters are the same kids they were touting in high school.. just maybe they might have reason to prove they were right in the first place ? Not much reason not to I’d guess. I am just saying it’s their business to run around expelling carbon monoxide or extra electrons. It’s easier to tout the big names on big campuses. That’s being said it’s also a good thing for the Raiders in 2011. They are under the radar and at least from a fan perspective have no chance I don’t think the Baylor, Ut, ATM or OU coaching staff take the Raiders talent level for granted. It’s just easier for the media folks to tout the folks who garner 4 star talent. The Raider talent pool has a real opportunity to surprise folks and make a run right into the November polls. The Tech O line is solid and the receivers & backs are of a median grade good enough to keep them in contests. The rub is if the Scot Smiths, Huberts, Ward, Dewhurst and Porters can ramp up the defensive production and shut down 3 to 5 opponents when the Raiders offense is off i.e. Atm, Ou, Ut or OSU. Optimistic here. Cautiously optimistic that the defensive staff can improve the performance of our median Division 1 players by a significant margin.
"do routine things routinely"
I don't by it
Tech was as relevant as any team heading into 2010 when they were blindsided. With all of the changes (and there were more than anyone seems to admit) the same players that made Tech relevant were struggling to equal past successes, and darn near did it. With the infusion of the best talent accumulated in one year since forever, the re-revamped O and D shoudl produce a great improvement over 2010. I have a feeling the stars of this team will be total surprises to a whole lot of media types, as well as a few disbelieving coaches. WR and RB are not median grade, but elite grade, as is the complete O-line of returning starters. The QB position is much better off than any outsider understands, no matter who is the eventual starter. And don’t forget a future All-American arriving at the TE position. The D, just because of the return to a 4-man front and better athletes, should equal the d of 2009, at the least. I love my rose-colored classes, and the rest of the conference will litterally end the season seeing red when they go up against the Texas Tech Red Raiders. WRECK ’EM, TECH!
TTpilk
"Never, never, never give up." Winston Churchill
Median grade plus superior scheme and desire, trumps talent
I dont disparage the Raiders “chances” or their talent.. but I don’t expect folks who look at 112(plus) teams to discern a star out on the High Plains. My observation of the offense / ive talent pool is that it is as good as it has ever been for Tech. That it’s got the ability to from a skill sets perspective to score 28 – 42 points per contest. I think the big 5 (atm, Ut, OU , OSU..and a surpise Baylor/ K State) in the conference will field as good a defense as we can an offense. So without very precise execution coupled to a Raider defense which keeps 2 or three score off the board; well then you wallow around at 7-5 or so and the media ranks Tech down around the mid tier teams.
"do routine things routinely"

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