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Texas Tech Opponent Prospectus | Oklahoma St. Cowboys

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2010 Record | 11-2 (6-2 in Big 12)

Returning Starters | 13 (9 on offense, 4 on defense)

Key Losses | Offensively, the Cowboys lose an integral part of their offense, RB Kendall Hunter, who I thought was just terrific for them last year, rushing for over 1,500 yards and 16 touchdowns. Other than that, there is little gone, except for maybe WR Bo Bowling who was third on the team in catches. The defense loses a handful of key contributors, one of my favorites to watch was LB Orie Lemmon (101 tackles, 9.5 TFL, both leading the team) and fellow linebacker Justin Gent (77 tackles, 3rd on the team). The defensive line does lose some good talent (not great) including DT Chris Donaldson, DT Shane Jarka, and DE Ugo Chinasa (probably their most significant loss. From what I could tell, CB Andrew McGee is the only person the Pokes lose in the secondary.

"We had a really good spring. We stayed fairly healthy and got a lot of young players a lot of reps."
- Oklahoma St. Head Coach Mike Gundy
On spring practice.

Key Additions | I don't think that there's really any incoming player that could make a significant impact for the Cowboys offensively, although I probably wouldn't rule out freshman Herschel Sims, a 4-star running back from Abilene. Gundy did recruit a handful of JUCO defenders, including LB Alex Elkins, DT Maurice Hayes, and DE Ryan Robinson.

Impact Offensive Player | You can take your pick, but I'll go with QB Brandon Weeden. It's not revolutionary to think that so goes the quarterback, so goes the team and I do think that this is the case with Oklahoma St. If Weeden is spot-on all year, then I don't think there is necessarily a better quarterback in the conference. I think that Landry Jones and Weeden are comparable with Tannehill a bit (an ever so slight bit as they have more of a track record and Tannehill will be starting a full season this year) below the two of them.

Impact Defensive Player | Sophomore LB Shaun Lewis was pretty darned good last year as a true freshman, finishing the season with 58 tackles, 8.0 TFL, 3 forced fumbles and 1 INT.

OpponentDateDTN Preview
Texas St. Bobcats 9/3/2011 Done
@ New Mexico Lobos 9/17/2011 Done
Nevada Wolfpack 9/24/2011 Done
@ Kansas Jayhawks 10/1/2011 Done
Texas A&M Aggies 10/8/2011 Done
Kansas St. Wildcats 10/15/2011 Done
@ Oklahoma Sooners 10/22/2011 Done
Iowa St. Cyclones 10/29/2011 Done
@ Texas Longhorns 11/5/2011 Done
Oklahoma St. Cowboys 11/12/2011 Done
@ Missouri Tigers 11/19/2011 Pending
Baylor Bears 11/26/2011 Pending

vs. Texas Tech | There are a reason why people are split between thinking that the Aggies or the Cowboys will be competing with Oklahoma for the top spot in the Big 12 or if they will be be fighting it out for second in the conference. They're nearly identical. The Cowboys, like the Aggies, return all of their offensive line. They both have an all-conference receiver with a slight edge, in my opinion, to OSU. They both have more running backs than they know what do with, and an edge to TAMU. They both have a quarterback who put up big numbers, I like Weeden a bit more. They both have questions defensively, each losing two of their best three linebackers, but have a young linebacker ready to step up. They both return quite a bit of their secondary.

I still think that the Aggies lose bigger playmakers on defense, but Oklahoma St. didn't really have that significant playmaker on defense (i.e. Von Miller) but had pretty good success defensively without that playmaker. Nevertheless, you get where I'm going with this. They're similar.

The biggest question mark, and it's a question mark that I think that Oklahoma St. fans think that it won't be that big of a deal, but I do tend to disagree. Last year, current West Virginia head coach Dana Holgorsen called the plays for Oklahoma St. and I thought he was wildly successful. Now comes Todd Monken, who has called plays previously, but has been mostly a position coach (running backs and receivers coach earlier in his career), most recently with the Jacksonville Jaguars as their receivers coach. From what I can tell, Monken has a clean slate, and it's tough to criticize a guy that you don't know about. I can't say for sure how Monken will do replacing Holgorsen, but what I can say is that no matter what you think, it will be different and will most likely take a step back. I don't think I underestimated how different it would be when Leach was terminated, but I was hopeful with the hire of Brown and to be completely truthful, Brown wasn't awful, but for most fans, he wasn't Leach. I don't think that the Oklahoma St. faithful have the same affinity for Holgorsen since he was only there for a year, but I'd just say that you cannot expect the same type of success.

Despite this, there are talented players for Monken to coach and I could gush about the talent on the offensive line, which may be one of, if not the best in the country, but it's usually the skill positions players that know how to make plays that put teams over the top and OSU has that in spades with QB Brandon Weeden, WR Justin Blackmon and I'll even add RB Joseph Randle.

Defensively, there are questions, but some way, some how, defensive coordinator, Bill Young, finds a way for the defense to be more than respectable. Yes, the defense gave up some yards, 88th in the nation in total defense, but was 61st in scoring defense and was in the top third in the country in rushing defense, 37th. But other than that, I don't see a ton of playmakers back and the fact that Oklahoma St. was not good against the pass (115th in the nation, which was still better than Texas Tech, who was at 118th) there is hope in that OSU will return two senior safeties, Markelle martin and Johnny Thomas and cornerback Brodrick Brown.

Defensive ends Jamie Blatnick (5.5 sacks, 5.5 TFL) and Richetti Jones (4.5 sacks, 7.0 TFL) will supply the pass rush and they should be pretty good, but the two defensive tackles graduated.

For Texas Tech, I'm more hopeful about this game and the Texas A&M game because Texas Tech has each of them at home, but this is a really good offense. And I know the thought that these two teams don't win on the other's home turf, but until we get a little further into the season, I don't know if and how much the Texas Tech secondary will improve and I also don't know if the Texas Tech will be more consistent. Had Holgorsen returned for OSU this year, I could have definatively said that I don't think that Texas Tech could have kept pace with Oklahoma St., but now I'm not sure.

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Big difference

I believe I read somewhere where Ok st lost almost all their returning OL, plus no Dana, and playing at Tech. Tech on the only hand: will have a improved D (can’t get much worse), more playmakers on O, year 2 in brown’s system will pay off also. Long as Tubs doesn’t call any onside kicks I’m about 85% confident we win this game.

"Hunt together, Kill together"

by I bleed Red and Black on Aug 22, 2011 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

This is one that we have to have; and it is going to be a toss up.

Along with aTm game, somehow we need to find a way to win this one. If we lose at home to OK State and aTm, we probably miss a bowl game.

These two games will more than likely determine how our season goes.

"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.

by Btech on Aug 22, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Loose of Dana bigger than people think

I don’t know much about Todd Monken but with his history spanning the NFL I don’t believe he will be as wide open and Holgorsen has learned be. It will take him some time to get enough belief in the spread strategy the way it was run in the past or as the Air Raid should be run. This is a bigger loss then the “experts” are considering.

by RedRaider78 on Aug 22, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Dead On

I think people may underestimate the loss of Holgorsen. Here is what I pulled from Wikipedia:

Record-breaking Cowboys offense under Holgersen With one game remaining, these are the school records set by the Dana Holgorsen-coordinated Oklahoma State offense during the 2010 season:7

    Total yards: 6,451 Old record was 6,340, set in 2002
    Scoring: 539 points Old record was 530, set in 2008
    Passing yards: 4,256 Old record was 3,414, set in 2002
    Pass attempts: 491 Old record was 454, set in 2002
    Pass completions: 332 Old record was 243, set in 2002
7 Haisten, Bill (December 15, 2010). “Dana Holgorsen reportedly leaving OSU for West Virginia”. Tulsa World sports extra. Retrieved 2010-12-26.

by TxTechKeith on Aug 22, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tho it's going to Hurt OSU the loss of Coach Holgerson is not going to slow them down much.

I feel this year these guys may very well run the table and not because of the touted reciever QB combos. Billl Youngs first team defense will shine and keep them in the 3 x tough games versus aTm, OU and Mizzou. When they get to Lubbock it’s going to be a critical match up.

"do routine things routinely"

by centexraider on Aug 23, 2011 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Way

Im with the other guys on this and I and many others have alreay called it out. An AirRaid without a mad man is just a predictible offense that throws the ball. Leach and Dana were so successful becuase they were so unconventional. The traditional guys just cant break their tendancies

Hey Tubs this is the Wild West, Good guys wear white, were the Red Raiders we wear BLACK. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Dont buy the Espn/Disney/ABC hype ! Playoffs are just spin to hide their agenda of owning our favorite sport.

by Gus Mitchem on Aug 23, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Offensive shoot out

Don’t think their Offense will be as good with the loss of Dana. Their D only has 4 returning starters and it was only average last year. I think both sides of the ball will take a step back.
I agree this will be a toss up and I am glad the game is in our home turf. They are overrated but thats fine because when we started beating teams like ATM, OSU, Missou, and UT we will shoot up in the rankings.

TECH 49 OSU 42

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by Techcuz on Aug 22, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Offensive disappointment

For some reason, I have a feeling that this is going to be one of those games that’s billed as a shootout only to turn into disappointing stagnation. I predict 9 total points scored in the first half and just 14 total in the second. I won’t predict the outcome as I hate going against TTU. Aggies v TTU on the other hand…total TTU domination.

"They challenged us. They said, 'Here, try to run past us, try to run inside us.' And they were better at preventing that than we were throwing and catching it." --Mike Leach

by silver_ on Aug 22, 2011 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Tech's season hinges on the home games vs A&M and Oklahoma State

Lose them both & we could easily end up at 7th as predicted. Win them both & we have a decent chance for 8-11 wins this year. Missouri & Texas will be the toughest winnable road games. The Oklahoma game, well nobody is predicting an undefeated season for Tech.

2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!

by mbrown603 on Aug 22, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

Need to win all home games because the road games don’t favor us historically. I think we have a slim chance at UT just because they have QB problems but not so much against Missouri and OU.

"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
"We started too late" - Neal Brown

by Raider1992 on Aug 22, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

7th place means the entire Big 12 South finishes ahead of Tech

Including Baylor & UT. It’s like the pundits never noticed we won 8 & 9 games every single year for the past decade. 7th place is basically saying Tech loses 6 conference games. I don’t see that happening & I’m not the rosiest optimist on Double T Nation. 6-6 or worse would be a huge disappointment.

2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!

by mbrown603 on Aug 22, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

We did manage to lose to all of the Big 12 South last year except Baylor and that one was close. We lost a big part of the offense to graduation, changed staff, and instituted a completely new defense again. Could we lose 6 conference games? Yes without much trouble. There seem to be some good things in the pipeline, but look at A&M over the last 10 years and their spectactular recruiting classes year after year. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, it's just they know so much that isn't so" Ronald Reagan

by FriscoRaider on Aug 22, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

"do routine things routinely"

by centexraider on Aug 23, 2011 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

People just don't understand

That losing an offensive guru is a HUGE obstacle. I think Tech fans might be the only ones to truly grasp the magnitude of this. Yes, he was only there for one season. Yes, they return most of their starters. But everyone on this board knows we returned most of our starters last year, and well, sometimes our offense wasn’t exactly pretty. Losing Hunter is a HUGE deal also. I remember watching this game and when we subbed in smaller guys to cover the receivers they just gave the ball to him and he ran over everyone. I’m not saying Randall is a slouch, but he’s not Hunter . . .
Anyway, they will still be a very threatening team, but I don’t even know if they’ll be ranked by the time they visit us. I hope they are, and I hope we game plan the hell out of em, cuz they will be very good. But I think they’ll be alot more inconsistent and withthat kid f offense, three-and-dones will absolutely kill you.

by ZITbass0104 on Aug 22, 2011 6:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

trenches trenches trenches

looking back at the recent history of this series, Tech usually wins and wins big in games when the lines dominate their OSU counterparts. Shootouts where defense and the running game (at least Tech’s running game) are MIA tend to go OSU’s direction. Last year OSU was flat-out better than Tech in terms of both skill and line players, this year I think we’re closer to a push/marginal advantage situation on the lines, and if the young talent keeps coming along and our veteran receivers stay healthy, I’d say we’re a lot closer to closing the gap between our skill positions and theirs. Yeah, the Weeden-Blackmon connection will most likely be on and cause the Tech secondary a few embarrassing moments, but there’s no reason that what Doege & Co. bring to the table can’t match that, at least in aggregate. That said, that battle along the lines is still way too close to being a tossup right now for me to be able to forecast with any confidence.

by mojavereject on Aug 22, 2011 11:46 PM CDT reply actions  

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