Red Raider Gridiron | Texas Tech Prepares for New Mexico; Depth Chart Changes
by Seth C on Sep 12, 2011 5:58 AM CDT
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DEPTH CHART CHANGES | Last night, the official site released their game notes for New Mexico, and when that happens, the depth chart is released (PDF). There are surprises all over the place.
OFFENSE:
* WR Eric Ward is your starting X-receiver, with WR Marcus Kennard backing him up.
* IR Bradley Marquez is starting ahead of IR Cornelius Douglas.
DEFENSE:
* DT Delvon Simmons has been moved to the second team defensive tackle, backing up DT Kerry Hyder. I don't think that Simmons was second team last week.
* DE Kindred Evans is the co-starter with DE Jackson Richards at defensive end.
* LB Sam Eguavoen is starting ahead of LB Cqulin Hubert.
* CB Jarvis Phillips is no longer on the two-deep as CB Eugene Neboh (backing up CB Derrick Mays) and CB Sawyer Vest (backing up CB Tre' Porter).
* SS Happiness Osunde is backing up D.J. Johnson at free safety. I don't think that Osunde was in the two deep last week.
LAJ's Don Williams has these changes as well as a notebook of items, including OC Neal Brown saying that RB Aaron Crawford would be second team at running back and C Justin Keown is back in pads, but most likely won't play this week, possibly against Nevada
NEW MEXICO LINKS | The Albuquerque Journal's Rick Wright writes that star transfer WR Lamaar Thomas is out with a broken bone in his back. That's a significant loss for New Mexico. LAJ's Don Williams writes that OC Neal Brown wants to prepare for New Mexico as their first big game:
"What we did is we basically just continued camp (last week)," Brown said. "We treated the Texas State game like it was still part of preseason camp, then last week was our last week of preseason. We’re treating this like it’s our first big game — an on-the-road test against a hungry opponent.
"I’m glad we’re playing on the road, just for the sake of our young guys, so when we get in conference it’s not a shock to them."
And DC Chad Glasgow says that New Mexico should have confidence and there is room for improvement:
"I think they’ll have confidence," Glasgow said. "They’re going back home to play a home game, and they’ll be excited for us coming to town. It’s the first time we’ve been on the road, and when you go in somebody else’s house, you’ve got to go take the football game."
Tech is hoping to build on a good second half against Texas State. The Red Raiders outscored the Bobcats 41-0 and recovered four fumbles after halftime.
"We’ve got to go play fast and go play smart," Glasgow said. "The one thing we did do against Texas State is I thought we played really hard, and we made some things happen because of how hard we played. We’ve got to continue to do that."
CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT LINKS | TexAgs' Billy Lucci has been right about the Aggies in just about every step of the way, I wonder if he's right with the following:
Of even greater concern for the SEC should be visionary commissioner Larry Scott and the aggressive, ever-expanding Pac-12. The conference is already deep into negotiations with at least three and probably four Big 12 teams and are on the verge of becoming the nation's first 16-team superconference. If Larry Scott adds OU, OSU and Tech (sources tell me that all three have been offered), the next move will be to find team No. 16, with Texas being the prime candidate.
As always, take everything with a grain of salt, but that's the first time I've seen in print (on the computer) where Texas Tech has an offer from the Pac-12. I'd still guess that it's contingent on OU and OSU also going, but this is the first time where I've seen someone write that Texas Tech is not tied to the hip of UT.
And from Oklahoma, NewsOK's Travis Haney and Berry Tramel write that the SEC expects Texas A&M to be cleared and that the Pac-12, should it expend to 16, not use divisional models, but pods.
BIG 12 AND COLLEGE FOOTBALL LINKS | Football Study Hall's Billy Connelly recaps the action in the Big 12 . . . CBS Sports takes a look at the ranked Big 12 teams . . . SB Nation's Spencer Hall provides the bare minimum of what you need to know from Saturday's games . . .
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My guess is they'll go after
Va Tech, North Carolina, and Duke
or Va Tech, West Virginia, and Missouri.
That’s what my sources are telling me anyway.
by Techsaninutah on Sep 12, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
If true, and I belive in all things Tech and Wool Sweaters;
I am ready to move as soon as possible. This Big 12-3-9 drama is just too much. Way too many distractions.
I am also really happy to see Brady Marquez move to numero uno. He is goning to be a beast by the end of the year. I was watching him run his routes in game one, and while it was only Texas State, they were grabbing and pulling at him because they could not stay with him.
Then if Moore is for real, which I think he is, and we throw in the Rabbit, this offense should roll. We will get a better look at two freshman LB’s, but I still believe in Russian Coffee.
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
For Tech especially the decision is a no-brainer
Accept Scott’s offer ASAP
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
Exactly
If there is an offer on the table from the PAC, we should have already signed!
by RedRaiderForLife95 on Sep 12, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
and this just in from BON......who woulda thunk it..............
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
I hope Case keeps forcing those throws when Tech rolls into Austin;
BYU was horrible. Their HC is horrible. The UT offense is a mess. We thought we had problem with Potts, that was nothing, and their defense has a lot of holes. That wasn’t eve luck, BYU just stinks.
Even after our first game showing, I am feeling pretty good about a road win in Austin.
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
by Btech on Sep 12, 2011 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate to say it, but I was actually impressed with Texas' performance
Very young team, found a way to win against an experienced BYU team. Texas’ defense was scary good, particularly in the second half. Malcolm Brown started to find running lanes. Once Gilbert was taken out, UT played like a different team.
They are young and they will make a lot of mistakes. They will most likely lose to OU and OSU, but I saw the beginning of another five year run for Texas.
How many freshman started/played – 18? – and how many years has Texas been in Top 5 recruiting over the past 10 years?
It just goes to show you that recruiting rankings don’t mean very much, – its all about finding the right combination of talent.
I thought the play calling was creative, a big change after having watched Greg Davis offenses over the years. Boise State’s offense with Texas’ talent is not something I look forward to watching.
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Sep 12, 2011 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Harsin
Being both an alum of TTU and Boise St and living in Boise, I have watched a lot of Bryan Harsin and his playcalling. I can say the only time I have seen him struggle in a game was last year’s Nevada game and TCU in 2007 Poinsettia Bowl with his calls.
Texas may not have looked too impressive against BYU, but he made adjustments on the fly and was not afraid to pull Gilbert and get McCoy and Ash in the game. Ultimately, while ugly, he got a W for Texas by making the adjustments needed. Given the time to get the system in place and the talent of UT’s athletes, Harsin will create a monster offense in Austin.
by idaho_techsan on Sep 12, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't know
I think we saw the beginning core of a very talented and dangerous UT squad last night in that second half, and frankly I was hoping they were going to fumble around for a few more weeks before finally getting their act together. The Garrett Gilbert Experiment looks like it’s finally over, and that is one train-wreck I could have watched forever.
by mojavereject on Sep 12, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Ditto
That was a game that last year’s Texas would have lost by 2 touchdowns. I was feeling pretty good about our chances in Austin with Gilbert at the helm. Now I think we’ll need to see a lot of week to week improvement out of our young guns to have a shot at winning that game.
by doubletdave on Sep 12, 2011 10:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I have not heared anything official, but we are probably looking at medical red shirt. Just my opinion.
Time for Delvin and Free Scotty. For the first time ever, Tubby actually said we would be getting back Scotty soon. I am guessing that is Kansas. Kansas will be his warm up, and then its destroy ATM.
"I feel sorry for the guys," Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville said. "They fought hard tonight. We didn't look good on offense or defense at times, and at times we looked pretty good. It's just, I don't know. Weird game.
Daniels??
Where is Ronnie Daniels? I haven’t heard anything about him since school started.
by redraiderinhtown on Sep 12, 2011 7:36 AM CDT reply actions
I really like his cousins....
Charlie and Jack.
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
+1,000
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please - Mark Twain
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Benjamin Franklin
by IndianaRedRaider on Sep 12, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Suspended for breaking team rules for the first game
He should be back for NM. If not, I think Tubby is doing his best to hide the fact he does not want Tech to win. Way too many weird moves by this guy. I just am not sure about his real motives any longer.
TTpilk
"Never, never, never give up." Winston Churchill
Taking it with a grain of salt...or two
but, seriously, Hance. Dont F*** this up.
"Why not us?" '04+'07='11.
I actually believe in Tommy Tuberville.
I have to guess that it’s not an outright offer, but contingent on OU and OSU making the move. We’ll know soon enough if OU and OSU make the move and if TTU goes with them.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
Lets define soon enough. Anything more than a day will be too long and frustrating – a continuation of my lack of productivity for the past couple weeks.
How about, allegedly, per OB.com’s Chip Brown, by the end of the month:
Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU’s administration told Orangebloods.com.
Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU’s board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.
The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.
Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.
If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU’s application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
I noticed nobody threw Ztech a bone in that snip
Please thow a dog a freaking bone!
I blame Tony Romo last night. Had the Cowboys just got spanked, I’d be ok. But the manner in which they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory hurts….it hurts.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Sep 12, 2011 8:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ztech
U think the z is next to the caps button. Dang iPhone.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Sep 12, 2011 8:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And via Kirk Bohls:
A UT group including its president and two ADs flew to Norman on Sunday for last-ditch effort to try to keep OU in the Big 12.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
Has anyone mentioned the following?
fuck texas
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
by blackbeard on Sep 12, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I can't imagine what it is that UT is willing to give up now to keep OU and save the Big XII-II-I
that they wouldn’t have caved on earlier (or just not reached for to start with) to keep Nebraska and Colorado or A&M and avoid putting the Big XII on death’s door to begin with. Cutting them in on media contracts won’t be enough unless it’s so close to equal revenue as to negate all this work and progress they’ve made toward establishing themselves as the princeps of the conference.
by mojavereject on Sep 12, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Word on the street...
Is that UT is willing to change to an equal revenue sharing model in order to preserve the B12 and make it stable long-term.
"They challenged us. They said, 'Here, try to run past us, try to run inside us.' And they were better at preventing that than we were throwing and catching it." --Mike Leach
that doesn't seem unexpected
but I imagine that only applies to first/second-tier rights and ‘league-generated’ tv money. They’d prolly still get LHN revenue (outside of those moneys pledged to schools willing to sacrifice co-ed virgins to play on LHN and pocket the change, which I’m not expecting Hance to be above)
by kevinkinsler on Sep 12, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
Wonder why OU would find that attractive; aren’t they ahead of everyone except UT on the revenue sharing pecking order now?
by doubletdave on Sep 12, 2011 10:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm pretty certain
it would be a pay cut for OU if the B12-3-? went to equal revenue sharing, so I can’t imagine they would agree to that. UT screwed up royally and got the ball rolling on the death of the Big 12. Nice job. See what too much greed gets you?
by Techsaninutah on Sep 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe they're more concerned with stability that $$$....
on second thought….naaah.
"They challenged us. They said, 'Here, try to run past us, try to run inside us.' And they were better at preventing that than we were throwing and catching it." --Mike Leach
I'm sure
that’s the reason they’ll use when OU applies to the Pac-12.
by Techsaninutah on Sep 12, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that is it
OU doesn’t wanna be stuck with the option of SEC football, they don’t want any of that.
Actually...
If they joined the PAC they would not only have stability, but most likely make more money anyways. They PAC’s tv deal is way bigger then their current one, and would most likely grow with the expansion.
I cannot wait that long.
Can’t sleep now. I need a drink. BB, are you serving?
by RRaider5355 on Sep 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Just Heard on ESPN Radio
Listening to ESPN Radio and on there updated between commercials, OU, OSU, and TTU looking to join the Pac 12. Looks like ESPN just picked up on the story!!! I am crossing my fingers and hoping our administration pulled a rabbit out of its hat, since this is the first time I have heard TTU moving without UT. I also think this maybe a ploy to get UT to join, but anyway we get an invite doesn’t really matter to me.
I don't want to be a broken record but maybe the Pac researched & decided Tech brings the Texas media markets with it
Which I believe it does. Especially Dallas, and maybe Austin, SA & Houston too.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
or maybe they saw that UT game the other night.
by ST04 on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Interesting Comment
I have been struggling with what actual markets tech brings. If this is true then you maybe right, I dont think the PAC would take TTU if we only brought Lubbock, Eastern part NM and part of Dallas with OU, Amarillo and Abilene. If TTU was part of the deal we may command majority part of Texas if included where the PAC can add Pac 12’s national and regional network to cable in Texas. Now we may not get the subscriber fee’s that UT may command, but good enough to pay our way through.
DFW, SA, Austin, Houston
and I think houston is one of the weaker areas, yet I know a lot of alum there. Look at the alamo bowl attendance, we have lots of alum/fans in SA/Austin.
what exactly is..
“bringing the texas media market with them”.
I will concede that tech has alumni in significant numbers in the biggest cities in texas. That only makes sense.
But I also think there is less tech alumni in all those cities than there are aggies and longhorns. Also, how does tech alumni in dallas compare with TCU and SMU… same with UH down in Houston.
Even best case scenario if you had equal fans in the major markets as there are aggies and longhorns… would that 33% be “bringing the texas market with them” ? And it’s not 33%.. there are too many other small schools. What % of Dallas and Houston do you guys think are Tech fans/alumni, compared to other schools? 15-20% maybe ?
TCU & SMU don't graduate enough students to match Tech
That’s why when Tech plays at TCU, SMU or even Baylor in Waco the stadium is more than half filled with Tech fans. I’d guess that north of 100,000 Tech alums live in the DFW area. A Pac 16 network will be on the cable systems of Dallas Ft Worth & its suburbs. The demand is there.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
100,000 Tech alumni
That’s less than half a % of the metroplex population.
if we’re going by student size to guesstimate alumni sizes..
Texas – 50k
A&M – 46k
Tech – 31k
Those are 2011 student sizes per wiki.. feel free to correct if i got those wrong.
Add in the fact that texas and A&M each have a 50 yr head start on tech. I get the feeling some here think Tech carries the 2nd most fans/ alumni in Dallas.. again.. I’d love to see that backed up.
Regardless...
… what matters is not if you have the most alumni in a given market, but whether or not you have “enough” in a given market. It’s not as though because UT has the most, that suddenly the Tech/OU/A&M market disappears.
If the Pac is considering taking Tech without UT, and who the hell really knows what they’re thinking at this point, it is well aware that Tech doesn’t own the Dallas/Houston/SA/El Paso markets outright. But no school does. What it would be weighing is whether or not Tech has a large enough presence in the major Texas markets.
To that end, I think you can rightfully look to our merchandize sales ranking. This indicates that we must have a large enough and loyal enough fan base to spend enough money in those markets (realistically where the bulk of Tech products are being bought) to be ranked in the top 20 of all schools in the nation. That to me speaks to the heart of the matter ($) most directly. I think the Pac is already aware of this and I do think it makes us intriguing at the very least.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
Keep in mind that TTU is only part of the equation. The executives are counting on interest in OU, OSU, and the other PAC schools. I would bet that even though TTU does not completely "own" the Dallas and Houston markets, the combination of TTU, OU, OSU and PAC programs would secure those markets. For insurance the PAC could either add another team or schedule non-conference games with some of the schools to reel in the market.
Around here football is bigger than the state of Texas!
by Distant Raider on Sep 12, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dunka, my man!
"Fill it up again". "It's so good! Once it hits your lips it's so good!" -Frank the Tank
Aggies are mostly in Houston, not as much Dallas
The 50 year head start was from 1873 to 1923? How many 1930 Texas Tech graduates do you think are alive today? They would be about 103 years old. Tech has had 30k students since the early 70’s & half have come from the Dallas area. About as many landed there after graduation. I don’t know why you think Tech is some tiny private school. Granted, The University of North Texas has even more alums in the Dallas area. But my guess would be they don’t follow college football as ardently as Tech fans do. Then there’s UTA and UTD, and all the junior colleges (I read somewhere that Richland College has 40,000 or so students – They are the Thunderducks for you sports fans).
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
do you still have your medals from the debate team at JJP?
you win this argument all night, my Red Raider brother….
"Fill it up again". "It's so good! Once it hits your lips it's so good!" -Frank the Tank
50 year
head start?
1923 is a while back…I doubt anyone prior to that is watching tv much
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
dad born in 1922
still drives from abilene to lubbock for home games……watches all games on tv………….just sayin
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
Aha
but he would have to have gone to ATM in 1922 in order to take advantage of that vaunted 50 year headdress. That would make him 17 years older
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
From a 2008 Chancellor's letter - Most of Tech's students come from outside Lubbock
http://www.texastech.edu/chancellor/newsletter/downloads/Leading-the-Way-Fall-08.pdf
Looking at enrollment, the recently released Fall 2008 enrollment numbers show that Texas Tech is on track with our growth initiative and enrolled the second largest class in school history. Texas Tech is helping to
"Close the Gaps" by increasing its minority enrollment and graduating a record number of students last year.
Additionally, our student body represents all areas of the state with 45 percent of our undergraduate population calling the major metropolitan areas of Texas home and 84 percent of our incoming freshman class coming to Lubbock from more than 100 miles away. Texas Tech University serves the entire state of Texas.
And they tend to return to where they came from after graduating.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
Aggies are mostly concentrated in Houston
Every 3rd car in Houston has an Assn of Former Students sticker. In Dallas, Longhorns have the largest presence (with team logo silver car decor as the gauge while traveling 50 miles daily on the North Dallas Tollway), Tech is 2nd most, Aggies not far behind & OU making headway. TCU & SMU are comparatively rare sights. A school with 35,000 students is going to spit out a lot more ex-students than a 7,000 student school like TCU or SMU (or Baylor for that matter).
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
source please
I’d love to hear why you think every aggie is from Houston, and why you think Dallas has more Tech fans/alumni, than Aggies do.
I hope it’s based on more than bumper stickers.
Why don't you prove him wrong?
I can firmly say that 98% of the residents of San Antonio are die hard Tech fans. Also, 467,000 fans in Ft. Worth and 893,457 Tech fans in Dallas. We also have 1.1 billion fans in India and Poland.
Now, you prove those numbers are wrong and I’ll mail you a beer.
I think it’s time you did a little of the leg work around here, rather than asking regular contributors to dance for you.
Go hard like Russian coffee
by San Antonio Red Raider on Sep 12, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Reference
“Impossible to Confirm Statistics.” September 12, 2011. – Figures pulled out of SARR’s ass.
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H ouston, you’ll need to come up with references too. We don’t just settle for conjecture around here.
"This time it's different."
by LondonRaider on Sep 12, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Another Reference
from the google:
72% of all dogs in Idaho love Texas Tech and would go to school there if only they had thumbs.
Unfortunately, we haven’t made much of a dent in the cat population yet.
Go hard like Russian coffee
by San Antonio Red Raider on Sep 12, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
LOL
"you can run on for a long time, sooner or later gonna cut you down"
-Johnny Cash
by wrench_raider on Sep 12, 2011 5:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That is Super Increíble
"There is no chance he will win, but if you think about it carefully he would be a pretty good candidate. He says a lot with no substance, he's proven he can be bought, he's dishonest, and he has the personality of a TV evangelist so I think he would be perfect in Washington!"-- Mike Leach (When asked if he would vote for Craig James for Senate)
"There is no chance he will win, but if you think about it carefully he would be a pretty good candidate. He says a lot with no substance, he's proven he can be bought, he's dishonest, and he has the personality of a TV evangelist so I think he would be perfect in Washington!"-- Mike Leach (When asked if he would vote for Craig James for Senate)
Here are Aggie numbers for each city. The difference between Dallas & Houston wasn't as great as I expected
http://www.aggienetwork.com/clubs/findmyclub.aspx?club=HEJuziJvWDXBBNM32hfheg%3d%3d
Dallas – 18,642
Ft Worth – 13,229
Denton County – 5,725
Collin County 6,542
McKinney – 1,862
Frisco – 1,934
Coppel – 975
Rockwall – 960
Total Dallas Ft Worth Metroplex – 50,000
Houston – 41,607
Montgomery County – 7,428
Ft Bend County – 6,088
Baytown – 1,026
Katy – 4,656
Pasadena – 3,623
Houston Metro Total – 64,423
That took a while. Now I’ll go digging up Tech numbers. By the way, which alumni base are you advocating for here? It’s obviously not Texas Tech.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
Aggies show a Total number, then a Living number
I went with the living number, because dead Aggies never pay their cable bills on time, so the Pac 16 wouldn’t be interested in those people.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
be careful mbrown
H ouston is gonna ask you to prove that dead aggies don’t pay their cable bill.
Go hard like Russian coffee
by San Antonio Red Raider on Sep 12, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
TV Ratings in Houston
If you notice the highest rated College Football games in the Houston area in 2008 and 2009, Texas Tech has a few games on the list. http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2010/06/some-college-football-ratings-to-ponder/
In 2008 – Texas Tech had 3 of the highest rated games in Houston, Texas had 3, and A&M had 0
In 2009 – Texas Tech had 3 of the highest rated games in Houston, Texas had 6, A&M had 1,
Now this tells me 2 things, Houston College Football are very fickle and watch the best games possible and secondly Texas Tech does have some pull in the Houston market. If you dont want to click on the link, I posted it underneath.
2010
Game (Network) Rating/share
Texas-Nebraska (ABC) 15.7/26
Texas-Texas A&M (ESPN) 13.5/26
Florida-Alabama (CBS) 12.3/25
Texas Tech-Texas (ABC) 10.9/20
Texas-Oklahoma (ABC) 10.8/28
Kansas-Texas (ABC) 9.0/16
Texas-Oklahoma State (ABC) 8.9/18
Texas Tech-Houston (ESPN2) 7.9/NA
Texas-Missouri (ABC) 7.7/14
Texas Tech-Nebraska (ABC) 6.7/15
Florida-LSU (CBS) 6.8/12
Colorado-Texas (ESPN) 6.6/12
LSU-Alabama (CBS) 6.3/15
LSU-Georgia (CBS) 5.5/12
Florida State-Florida (CBS) 5.3/12
Auburn-Alabama (CBS) 5.2/12
2008
Game (Network) Rating/share
Texas-Texas Tech (ABC) 16.2/29
Texas Tech-Oklahoma (ABC) 11.6/20
Texas-Oklahoma (ABC) 10.9/26
Oklahoma State-Texas (ABC) 10.2/24
Oklahoma-Texas Tech (ABC) 9.4/17
Oklahoma-Oklahoma State (ABC) 9.3/16
Florida-Alabama (CBS) 9.1/20
Missouri-Oklahoma (ABC) 7.6/14
Alabama-LSU (CBS) 6.1/13
LSU-Florida (CBS) 5.2/10
Penn State-Ohio State (ABC) 5.2/10
Also Found
A Collegiate Licensing website that shows Tech has ~140k living alumni with the largest Alumni bases in DFW and Lubbock.
http://www.clc.com/clcweb/publishing.nsf/Content/institutionprofile.html?open&ucode=TEXTEC
They probably got the 140k number from the same 200 directory I have
Or they’re counting graduates only. I counted total students from 1950-2010. If you went there you probably follow the team.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
I would suggest many Whoren silver logos are
Tee shirt fans. But still counts as a fan.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Sep 12, 2011 7:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
From what I understand
Tech has a very large Alumni base in Dallas. I believe we have north of 4+ alumni groups just in Dallas Alone, 100k+ alumni in that region is very plausible if not more. Also when I was looking at schools to attend in (late 90’s) Houston, Tech did not have a large presence and not even close to UT, A&M, UH etc. Over the last 10 years Tech has been gaining traction in Houston and surrounding markets and have made large pushes (some of that also is contributed to have direct medical and pharam programs other schools dont offer, better marketing, some competitive programs, and the top 10% rule in Texas has benefited tech tremendously.). Also dont discount the fans of Texas Tech that arent just alumni, I know during the Leach years we gained a tremendous amount of fans for our football team around the state.
Now does all that translate to cable carriage and enough demand that cable subscribers in Houston, SA, and Austin demand PAC 12 nationally and regional channels. If the PAC 12 is inviting Tech to join without UT then I would safely assume Tech pulls enough markets in Texas to create significant value (tv contracts) for the PAC 12 or they wouldn’t invite us at all.
Well
this isn’t exactly like splitting the atom here is it?
Tech’s 2011 enrollment numbers are 30K and ATM’s are 46K. The big question is the draw of DFW, Houston and the Austin/SA markets. These 3 markets make up Tech’s largest draw…outnumber West Texas and all other.
I have no idea where the hell you are pulling out the % of Dallas and Houston alum and fans at 15-20% versus other schools…..
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
But
The big question is the draw of DFW, Houston and the Austin/SA markets. These 3 markets make up Tech’s largest draw…
but you say that as if you don’t think that those 4 (incl SA) markets are also the biggest origination of students and alumni bases for Aggies and longhorns.
I’d love to see some basis or source backing up why some of you think Dallas has more Tech alumni fans than the aggies do.
15-20 was a guess, and a question to you guys. If you had to set up a pie chart for college football fans in D and H… just what % do you think Tech carries vs Texas, A&m and other?
I would
like for you to come with your own fact based figures instead of pulling opinion out of your ass and telling us to refute it.
Now go away!
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
did anyone suggest that aTm
go fuck themselves?
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
by blackbeard on Sep 12, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I
Second that
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
There
are no dumb questions……just aggies
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
IMO
The reality in Houston and Dallas is:
Dallas
90% of interest = Dallas Cowboys
8% of interest = Highest Ranked TX school assuming ranked in the top 25
2% of interest = Alumni to given school
Houston
80% of interest = Houston Texans (maybe higher, haven’t lived in Houston in a long time)
15% of interest = Highest Ranked TX school assuming ranked in the top 25
4% of interest = Alumni to given school
1% of interest = inexplicably linked to Vince Young either positive or negative
Disagree with your reality
Reality is that sports fans aren’t mutually exclusive.
I’m sorry that you are only able to be a fan of one team.
I’m sure all the Tech-Cowboy-Yankee fans, Astros-Aggies-Cowboy fans, Texans-Sooners-Spurs fans, Phillies-Penn St-Jets fans, Longhorn-Mavericks-Rangers-49r fans,(and etc etc for the thousands and thousands of combinations out there) would beg to differ.
If only 6% of Houston and Dallas gave a hoot about college sports, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
you are not a broken record, my friend....you're just stating the facts, sir....
"Fill it up again". "It's so good! Once it hits your lips it's so good!" -Frank the Tank
Yep---method in the madness
I mentioned this ploy awhile back. Hance and Bailey and especially Hocutt have been working their Oklahoma ties to do exactly this. They may have just pulled it off. Sure Hance is a Texas politico, but he is tight with Boren and Pickens. Bailey headed UTSA but was also at Okie St. and on the Okla, Higher Ed. Board for 3 years. Hocutt was hired not because of Miami but because of his close ties to OU and AD Castiglione. It has become clear in the past 2 weeks that PAC will gladly take OU and OSU without UT—they are the locks. So OU commands the power to bring Tech along regardless of UT—THEN they can turn to Texas and say "comin’ or goin’? And now Scott has the power to tell UT “and decide quickly or we take BYU and leave you out—since they clearly are as good a team as you.”
Agree with most of that
but I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance in a baker’s oven of the Pac inviting BYU, and I’m sure UT knows that.
by Techsaninutah on Sep 12, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
But they could always invite Aggie again
and that actually makes more sense than BYU. As the article said, if A&M gets an unconditional offer from the PAC, do they look at the SEC offer and say “screw it!”?
by RedRaiderForLife95 on Sep 12, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Pac would go with KU
For the national basketball brand, AAU status and cultural fit. BYU is not in the picture at all. KU is pretty much a lock if UT isn’t coming. at that point it’s either you guys or MU.
BYU has a strong West Coast fanbase
I grew up on the West Coast and I tell you BYU is strong—obviously with Mormons, but also with non-Mormons. BYU power in Calif. is much stronger than Baylor power in Texas, and additionally would bring in the Hawaii and Nevada markets to the PAC. Would the PAC really want them—probably not—but as a serious trump card to throw at Texas—yes, Scott would use it. And take BYU if stuck—definitely.
RE: A&M to PAC—NO WAY IN HELL! That’s about as subtle as I can be. They would be laughingstocks at Berkeley, Palo Alto and Eugene. I am convinced that a major reason they are pushing so hard for the SEC is so they don’t get trapped into having to go West. No way—No how.
As for KU and MU—too far east; they’ll go Big10/BigEast before they even think PAC.
If the PAC wants the Nevada market...
why wouldn’t they just invite Nevada?
Everything I’ve read is that Cal wants no part of a religious school, in any way, shape, or form.
by RedRaiderForLife95 on Sep 12, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Because BYU draws more
plus it would only get them Reno. Most people don’t realize that Las Vegas has a huge Mormon population [ironic?] . Reno’s is sizable but not nearly as large. By getting BYU, PAC gets a sizable Reno and Las Vegas market share, that neither UNR or UNLV individually can give them—especially in football.
You are right about Cal, but at least they are familiar with Mormons—those Southern Baptists are true alien creatures on the West Coast.
BYU will never get in. EVER.
Pac doesn’t want any more private universities (notice how Stanford and USC are the only ones, and they’ve been in forever and are HUGE), let alone private conservative religious universities who refuse to play on Sunday. BYU was a non starter last year, when there were many less options. Not happening.
If UT was made to believe that OU, OSU &Tech were already granted membership in the PAC, and the last slot was theirs but could go elsewhere if UT stalled, then throwing out BYU could force UT’s hand—which is what Scott prefers anyway.
Yep
this is how you do it
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol no one would actually choose to go to the Big East over Pac
Are you serious with that? Big 10 is a possibility, but they’re picky.
Yep--they would
You are right—first choice for MU/KU is Big10 academically and culturally they fit. KU and MU are a package; I don’t see them splitting. KU would leave K-State before leaving Mizzou.
But—in Texas everyone is skewed Southwestern/Western. That’s not the case in Nebraska, Mizzou, Kansas, Iowa—they aren’t oriented West. They are Midwestern first. I spent 10 years in Nebraska—ask a midwesterner which “big City” they’d love to live in, the majority will say Chicago, New York—only a handful will say LA. MU/KU will court Big10 first, then maybe ACC/Big East if they are stuck. PAC is too far in their minds—that’s another reason Nebraska left—it’s not southwestern.
Dude you have no idea what you're talking about
A school isn’t going to turn down being in an eastern Pac division, making $20 million more per year, with better national exposure, academics and recruiting for the Big East. Not to mention that the Big East is far more unstable.
Nope--I know exactly what I'm talking about, but...
I will grant you this. If it’s between Big 10 and PAC, they go Big 10—no doubt at all. If it’s ACC and PAC again, ACC wins, no question. If it’s SEC and PAC, then they prefer PAC because KU/MU don’t want to tarnish their academic rep. If it is PAC and BigEast and that’s it [as some writers are saying Big East would be the only option if UT, OU went West] then, the academics are compatible but it would come down to perceived stability—but then you could argue that if the BE could get KU and MU, and maybe then pull K-State ,maybe I-State and/or Baylor, then they would become quite powerful.Going West is not a first priority for KU/MU. Circumstances have to make that the best choice.
My fear is Hance will refuse the Pac 12 invite in order to stay with UT
Instead of standing up to the political forces in Austin & doing what is best for Texas Tech. We will benefit from being out of UT’s shadow just as much as the Aggies.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
he is dumb, but not that dumb. The revolt from that decision would be that we would need a new bell tower because the students would burn the current admin building down.
don't overestimate
Our underestimation of that dumbass
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
by blackbeard on Sep 12, 2011 12:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Nah
if that were the case, he would have agreed to the Tech/Texas game on the Bevo channel.
by RedRaiderForLife95 on Sep 12, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
WR Depth chart change
Im excited to see what marquez can do now that he’s number one on the depth chart.
Im glad these coaches are benching the guys that are not performing. Zou is no longer starter. Franks no longer 1 or 2. I hope we have more playmakers emerge.
Same on the Defense.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is nearly impossible to discern if they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
Looking Ahead
Texas State (0-2): Lost 10-45 to Wyoming. Note: TSU held to 189 total yards. 77 on the ground. TTU surrendered 331 yards to TSU, 256 on the ground.
@ UNM: (0-2): Lost 3-52 to #14 Arkansas. Note: UNM gave up 632 yards to UA.
Nevada (0-1): Lost 20-69 to #13 Oregon. Note: Nevada generated 516 yards on offense, and gave up 603 yards.
@ Kansas (2-0): Won 45-42 over Northern Illinois. Note: Kansas generated 534 yards and gave up 462 yards.
#9 Texas A&M (1-0): Bye. Note: TAMU’s schedule includes Idaho, #8 OK State and #14 Arkansas at home before traveling to Lubbock. After us it’s #19 Baylor.
Kansas State: (1-0): . Bye. Note: Only beat Eastern Kentuckey 10-7. Ouch.
@ #1 Oklahoma: (1-0): Bye. Note: OU plays @ #5 Florida State this week. Should be a great game.
Iowa State (2-0): Won 44-41 over Iowa. Note: ISU Offense put up 473 total yards.
@#24 Texas (2-0): Won 17-16 over BYU. Note: UT Defense held BYU to 235 total offense; 43 rushing yards.
#8 Oklahoma State (2-0): Won 37-14 over Arizona. Note: OSU put up 594 yards of offense gave up 439 yards.
@Missouri (1-1): Lost 37-30 @ Arizona State. Note: UM put up 501 in offense and gave up 492 yards.
Baylor (1-0). Bye. Note: BU put up 564 yards on TCU.
"This time it's different."
With our game film though
We had none, not trying to invoke too big of an excuse for our performance against Texas St. At least we made halftime adjustments for once.
by idaho_techsan on Sep 12, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Not sold by any means on the evidence presented as of today.
by idaho_techsan on Sep 12, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Nevada
My question is will NB try to out pistol the original Pistolero?
by idaho_techsan on Sep 12, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
i will say Texas run defense is pretty good. Our O line is gonna have to step up big time.
And I hope our defense is better than what those stats show.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is nearly impossible to discern if they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
Here's my prediction:
Tubs and Brown will go with their “tried and true” plan of establishing the run in order to open up the passing game. This will fail miserably, and it will take up until the second half before Brown shifts strategy and lets them air it out. Then, as soon as they start having success with this, Tubs will say, “let’s get tricky” and try and run it again, unsuccessfully, for most of the fourth quarter in an attempt to run down the clock (even though we’re down) and catch UT off balance.
Tongue in cheek of course. Let’s hope that instead of trying to force something to work because “that’s how it’s done”, lets just go with whatever works. If we can run on UT, then run it down their throats. If we can pass against UT, then hang it out and air-dry that @#% all the way to the endzone.
"They challenged us. They said, 'Here, try to run past us, try to run inside us.' And they were better at preventing that than we were throwing and catching it." --Mike Leach
by silver_ on Sep 12, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I love the Aggies facing 3 of 4 ranked teams & we are the only road game
Beating the Aggies would be a good start to conference play & would likely get us ranked.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
Beating the Aggies would be
… a great start to a Merry Christmas. Beating the Sooners would be … uh, …. aw, never mind.
"I didn't get a 'Harumph!" outta that guy!"
by Yellow City Raider on Sep 12, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
there’s pipe-dream (beating Baylor, Texas, A&M, and Oklahoma State), and then there’s crack-pipe dream (beating the Sooners in Norman). If you’re going to go there, hand that pipe around.
by RedRaiderForLife95 on Sep 12, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
All hail the mighty UT brand
It’s a shame that traditional rivalries would be effectively scrapped, and I don’t really believe in “karma”… but I’d be as happy as a tornado in a trailer park if Tech and the Oklahoma schools went west, Missouri and the Kansas schools went east, and all that was left of the Big 12 was Baylor, Iowa State, and UT (with apologies, of course, to the Bears and the Cyclones.)
Want some advice from an old pro? Walk in, plant your feet, look the other person in the eye, and tell the truth. James Cagney
I still have a bad taste in my mouth.....
After being a Mormon for a day. YUCK
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/bam_bam_dip/BANNED.jpg
and on top of that, I've been rooting for the Yankees all weekend too
at least that one finally paid off on Sunday
by kevinkinsler on Sep 12, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't get that desparate
The Rangers control their own destiny against the Angels.
However, I am rooting for anyone that is playing the Tigers. I want home-field advantage in the first round. I have tickets for Game 2, but I have to be out of town during that first week of October. That Game 2 needs to be on Saturday!
by RedRaiderForLife95 on Sep 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Baylor
I think it’s great that A&M plays Baylor the week after Tech. If you think they aren’t looking forward to that game you’re crazy. In a normal year I think the Tech game gets circled and they wouldn’t be thinking about Baylor but given the way things have played out this year I wouldn’t be surprised if A&M is a little sidetracked when they come to Lubbock.
The 2 deep surprises
What really surprises me is how small our defensive front and linebackers are. Plus, Fehoko & Cobb aren’t even on the chart.
by doubletdave on Sep 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
No Defense
Looks like most of the Big 12 teams are giving up mucho yards. Our D needs to hunt and kill! Free Scotty ! Hope Big Mack can come back.
Also, hide and watch—-The Whornes go to SEC or Big East. Just my humble opinion.
Wreck-em Tech !!!
by Red and Black 71 on Sep 12, 2011 11:50 AM CDT reply actions
doubt they will go to the SEC. Recruiting would hurt them due to their academic standards. I believe this will also plague A&M when they get there. Most of the schools in the SEC do not have anywhere near the academic standards that A&M has thus they have less recruiting standards.
I'm not being a smart ass, but I'd like to see some documentation
That aggie or Whoren has any academic standard for student athletes above NCAA Clearing House guidelines. They’re not Notre Dame, SMU, Tulsa, or Northwestern with their athletes. ( Yes, I threw Tulsa in there because I have a degree from there and the are a highly selective tiny private school:) Smallest enrollment of all D1A schools with undergrad pop of like 2,500.
Back to Academic Standards at UT, Exibit A: Vince Young….gugree?
Fact: SMU actually does require higher standards for athletes and it does hold them back. That’s why they, Tulsa, Rice, Tulane, etc should be in same little conference with private “Academic” institutions.
Anyhow, I will gladly admit if I’m wrong but I seriously doubt ANY one in SEC or B 12-2-1-3 sans Vanderbilt has a “floor” above NCAA rules.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Sep 12, 2011 8:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Receivers
I love watching the Depth Chart develop and unfurl as the season goes along. To be sure they may be even MORE surprises down the road. For now:
As the captain used to run 10 deep in the whole of receiving corps, there are only THREE players who have seen extensive playing time: Zou, Swindall, and Torres. Only ONE is starting: Torres.
The rest of these guys are players Ive been expecting to step up since the departure of Crabtree and subsequently, The Captain or JUST BRAND NEW Faces. i.e. recruited by the South Plains Drifter
Looking the list over I also see; THREE Guys over 6’3" (Amaro, Kennard & Moore), one speedster, (Bradley “Magic” Marquez), two hands guys, (Zou & Torres).
I cant wait
Arriba sus Pistolas, Muchachos!
by Tortilla Pirate on Sep 12, 2011 12:15 PM CDT reply actions
The depth chart is fun this year !
I have been worried about the receivers in the Swindall, Franks, etal class since their redshirt year…I think what we saw last year reflects what needs to be done this year. Shoot, when Torres came in and took a starting spot we were getting a message.
We may be building experience for Big12 and we may still be experimenting some to see who are the best combinations on the field…at any rate it is encouraging to me that the staff is not just sitting on their pile of experienced players and hoping for the best, they are doing something with what they have—it looks as if anyone who can show the ability to play will play, and we will give up experience for the speed / athleticism / enthusiasm.
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
Preach it Brutha Mike
I love competition. You can’t take a play off. We need 100% of you every play men!!!
Or we’ll let someone who’s willing to work harder play.
In high school basket ball, I had little to no talent( I was a footballer) But I was a starting post at only 6’2" because I would knock you on you’re ass and get a rebound, loose ball, would dive and offer up burnt skin to the basket ball gods. Why don’t kids want it that bad anymore?
This Marquez kid has “it” whatever it is as does Moore, Torres.
I’m also exited to see the competition on the defense line and backers.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Sep 12, 2011 8:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
UT announced they are changing QBs
Case McCoy will start Saturday’s game at UCLA.
David Ash will back him up, along with Garrett Gilbert.
NUTS - Never Underestimate TEAM Strength
and little Shipley will be there to throw to
Hey! Did you know that their brothers can throw and catch a ball on a moving boat? And that they were roommates? And that their dads are friends?
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. – Life on the Mississippi
by LBKpiratefan on Sep 12, 2011 12:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The long awaited sequel
Brokeback Mountain II – The Little Squirts
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
by mbrown603 on Sep 12, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
It's standard Eddie Haskell code for Little Brother
What else could it mean?
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
LOL
"There is no chance he will win, but if you think about it carefully he would be a pretty good candidate. He says a lot with no substance, he's proven he can be bought, he's dishonest, and he has the personality of a TV evangelist so I think he would be perfect in Washington!"-- Mike Leach (When asked if he would vote for Craig James for Senate)
Line of the FREAKING day!!!!!
Double entendre is the “icing” on the proverbial cake, androgynous cake. Little “squirts” “icing?”
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Sep 12, 2011 8:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Blackbeard crossed the line
Next thing you know he’ll say Shipley and McCoy had their “coming” out party last Saturday.
My only regret is that this comment was at 11:00 pm and will be forgotten in 6 hours with a fresh DD to replace this glorious thread.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Sep 12, 2011 10:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, don't worry...
It will be revived every time we hear the commentators on ESPenis rehash the tired tune of best buds, roommates, brothers, dads, etc. with every UT game you happen to click past.
"They challenged us. They said, 'Here, try to run past us, try to run inside us.' And they were better at preventing that than we were throwing and catching it." --Mike Leach
so about every other ten minutes
They’re probably working on a behind-the-scenes reality show with the two for the LHN
by kevinkinsler on Sep 12, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Thinking ahead way too much, but ...
wanted to throw this out for discussion. PAC 12 become PAC 16. Rather than two divisions, what would everyone think about four pods? The conference would be aligned like this:
Southwest Pod: TTU, UT, OSU, OU
Mountain Pod: UA, ASU, CU, UT
Cali Pod: USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford
Northwest Pod: UW, WSU, OU, OSU
Teams in the same pod would play each other every year, then play two teams from the other three pods each year.
For Example: TTU
Southwest Pod: Plays OU, UT, and OSU every year
Mountain Pod: Plays UA and CU one year, then ASU and Utah the next
Cali Pod: Plays USC and Stanford one year, then UCLA and Cal the next
Northwest Pod: Plays UW and OSU one year, then OU and WSU the next
1. There would be nine conference games each year (3 in each pod and 6 outside each pod)
2. There would be wide geographical inclusion. Notice we would play a team from Arizona, Southern Cal, Northern Cal, Washington, and Oregon team every year.
3. This keeps rivalries together
4. A points system would determine who goes to the conference championship. For everyone win inside the pod a team receives two points and one point for each win outside your pod. So there would be six points up for grabs inside each pod and 6 points outside each pod. The two teams with the greatest number of points plays in the conference championship.
Thoughts?
by Arizona Raider on Sep 12, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
It may take this to get the AZ schools and CU & UT to not present a voting block against expansion
I realize that the original Pac 8 carry the weight in the conference, but the newer schools are not happy with an East Division.
by idaho_techsan on Sep 12, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
the point thing is my biggest concern
that would be weird to see in football (american-style)
by kevinkinsler on Sep 12, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes... sounds more like futbol to me...
I don’t like it….
For the Pac 16… I would like a west division of California, Oregon and Washington schools… Southwest division for the rest…
"Transition is hard." - TT
by Houston Raider on Sep 12, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
That makes the most "traditional" sense...
but Colorado is crying about not being able to play in So Cal every year due to recruiting, or at least have a game against a So Cal team so that Colorado gets some exposure there. I imagine Az, Az St, and Utah would make the same arguement. The pods make that possible. You may not play in So Cal (or Texas, another major recruiting ground), but at least you play a team from that area.
by Techsaninutah on Sep 12, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe you could stil schedule with the same approach
but the standings should stay a little more traditional
by kevinkinsler on Sep 12, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
You play at least 2 games against the other division each year (+7 in same division for total of 9 conf games)...
Since half of the west div teams are in Cali, probably will be playing against one of those teams each year..
Not overly concerned what Colorado cries about… They’re going to be crying about having to play their old Big 12 rivals anyway…
"Transition is hard." - TT
by Houston Raider on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
You would
definitely play a So Cal team every year. For instance, next year, we’d play Texas, @OU, OSU, @Arizona, Utah, @USC, Cal, @Oregon, and Washington. The next year (2013), same teams, opposite places. In 2014, we play Texas, @OU, OSU, @UCLA, Stanford, @ Oregon St, and Washington State. In 2015, same teams as 2014, opposite places.
by Techsaninutah on Sep 12, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Baylor fans afraid of going to Kyle field
Baylor fans must be afraid to go and face the Aggies. They have not bought very many tickets.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-big12mess
The aggies might just be distracted with the Baylor game when they play Tech.
.
NUTS - Never Underestimate TEAM Strength
Did you catch the quote from the Baylor ticket office?
Something along the lines of “our people tell us that they can get much better seats online than the ones Texas A&M sets aside for the visiting team”.
Burn. And very true. I bought my 2008 tickets from the Red Raider Club & wound up in the highest section of the highest end zone. I was looking down on the roofs of 10 story buildings. Never again.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
How true !!!
The aggies are alike with ut in that regard, giving the visiting team the worst seats in the stadium.
NUTS - Never Underestimate TEAM Strength
heck
They give there students even worse seats, make you stand up all game, and you can’t wear a hat. (Confession I went to a game with an old girlfriend who dumped me a week later.)
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. – Life on the Mississippi
by LBKpiratefan on Sep 12, 2011 12:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"and you can't wear a hat"?
Did you go to the game in the 50s? I probably wore a hat to every game when I was a student.
Nah
We go with the first post. Wahoo was an Aggie, we have proof right here!!!!
by RedRaiderForLife95 on Sep 12, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It's the magic word "Memorial" that drives it
“Memorial” is Aggie for “Simon Says”. If you step up to a Memorial Urinal, you must remove your cap before peeing. Otherwise you are peeing on all the dead Aggie Graduates. If it’s not a Memorial urinal, keep that hat on. The same goes for “Memorial Centers”, Memorial Grass", “Memorial Parking Lots”, etc.. In College Station you will be putting on & taking off your hat more than a Catholic spends standing, kneeling & sitting. And it makes as much sense to a non-Aggie as the Catholic service makes to non-Catholics.
2011 Season - No excuses. Just win!
just exactly how many aggies drowned in urinals in College Station that they have to have a memorial one?
"As we continue to merely "talk about championships""
Good question, but you're assuming they drowned.
There are scads of ways a urinal could take out an unsuspecting Aggie.
"I didn't get a 'Harumph!" outta that guy!"
by Yellow City Raider on Sep 12, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Y'all hear about that skeleton they found in the basement of the A&M Biology building last week?
He was the 1939 Hide- And -Seek champion.
Give 'Em Hell Tech!!!!!
by Plano Jeff on Sep 12, 2011 8:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone seen this?
http://outkickthecoverage.com/big-12-television-contract-likely-to-protect-league.php
"There is no chance he will win, but if you think about it carefully he would be a pretty good candidate. He says a lot with no substance, he's proven he can be bought, he's dishonest, and he has the personality of a TV evangelist so I think he would be perfect in Washington!"-- Mike Leach (When asked if he would vote for Craig James for Senate)
News to me
But I thought ESPN’s contract had a stipulation that if the league dropped below 8 teams they were free to leave contract?
I think this guy's argument is that
ESPN and FOX have so many conflicts that they won’t want to risk enforcing clauses like that. I kind of hope he is correct.
"There is no chance he will win, but if you think about it carefully he would be a pretty good candidate. He says a lot with no substance, he's proven he can be bought, he's dishonest, and he has the personality of a TV evangelist so I think he would be perfect in Washington!"-- Mike Leach (When asked if he would vote for Craig James for Senate)
I don't buy the assumption that UT would stay if OU left.
UT pride would not let A&M go SEC and OU go PAC while it stayed in the Big East of the Southwest. Remember, UT has more money than they need from a hundred sources. I see no way that they can live with being in the bottom league of the AQ conferences.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
I hate to keep talking about this but;
If the PAC 12 becomes the PAC 16 and that TV contract is reopened for negotiation, who is to say that CBS or NBC don’t bid for it. NBC now has only Notre Dame, (ut of the north), and CBS has only some SEC. And in reality, the FOX network, (not Sports Network or Fox Regional Sports networks), could bid for some of these rights as well. In theory, if ABC/ESPN are stuck with a lesser Big 12 including ut, we could be laughing 10 years from now. Of course, I may not what the hell I am talking about too.
Love the depth chart changes, wonder when Daniels is coming back and wish this was the topic of conversation. Wreck Em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ut is "The Evil Empire"
The PAC tv contract stays with Fox/ESPN after expansion
There are automatic escalators built into the contract that guarantee raises per team if expansion happens, but no one knows how those raises are determined though. Rumor was an extra $10 mil per team (so up to around $31 million) if OU/OSU/UT/TT were added. This is completely separate from PAC-12 network, which is wholly owned by the league, with a distribution deal cut with the cable companies .
Hyatt tweet
It’s worth repeating. The #Pac12 will have 16 teams and they’ll have a presence in Texas with or without the Horns. #TexasTech
TweetDeck • 9/12/11 8:20 PM
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
I don't speak tweeter...
What is he saying? He thinks we have a good shot at Pac even without tu?
"Transition is hard." - TT
by Houston Raider on Sep 12, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
he thinks tech gets an invite that can then leverage ut or go to byu
"Trust your gut....mine always finds good Mexican food"
-Me
by oldschoolraider on Sep 12, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Wes just went 99 yards for a score and put me over the top in my FFL!!!!
How great would Graham be in the NE offense!?!?!?!?!!!!!
"There is no chance he will win, but if you think about it carefully he would be a pretty good candidate. He says a lot with no substance, he's proven he can be bought, he's dishonest, and he has the personality of a TV evangelist so I think he would be perfect in Washington!"-- Mike Leach (When asked if he would vote for Craig James for Senate)
What a thing of beauty!
and against the team that traded him away.
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