Craig James - And so it begins.
Craig James was interviewed and was asked and subsequently acknowledged that he received some payments from boosters while at SMU. While he was vague and downplayed the amounts - this is probably the first salvo in his introduction to politics. I am certain that it won't stop at this. No word on the 5 hookers.
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He's said this before
He said this in his 2010 deposition in the Leach case (which you can find in “Swing your Sword”). Still, doesn’t reflect well on his honesty—and doesn’t look good when you’re running for office. Remember, “if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!”
Oh, the debate was tonight, wasn't it?
I meant to watch it and forgot, dang it!! I was sure it would be entertaining. Did anyone watch? Was he prepared? Could he speak somewhat intelligently on the topics?
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Glad I missed it
I have too many heavy objects around my ‘nest’, and it could get very dangerous for my TV.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
said in the debate that he has a pistol and shotgun under his mattress....
someone might want to do a little forensic work on that pistol. remember the 5
We ought to Haboob his ass
Thanks for the link
two thoughts immediately come to mind re: the shotgun & pistol:
1. wouldn’t that make the mattress lumpy?
2. If I messed with people’s lives the way he does I would sleep with guns under my mattress too. And I’m afraid of guns.
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I was referring to your guns..... boom! haha I'm sorry.
But no, they don’t make lumps. Heck, baseball gloves wrapped around a ball don’t make lumps when placed under a mattress.
I don't get it??
You mean my non-existent guns? My biceps?? What am I missing???
Only 1/3 of the way through my 1st diet coke so I am mentally handicapped…
And why would you put a baseball glove with a ball in it under your mattress?
Boys are strange…
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What would you have that would be checked for lumps? Come on.... Think extra hard.
As for the glove, its to break it in. Put a ball or two in the pocket, tie the glove tight around the ball(s), cover in cooking oil, bake in oven at 350 for 20 minutes or so, then put it under your mattress to sleep on for a few nights.
Use cotton seed oil unless you want all the dogs to follow you around
or olive oil if you want to hit the curve ball.
We ought to Haboob his ass
Glove oil is always a good option, works for natural leather shoes as well.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
I used it a couple of times
But always had the same results from Pam for much cheaper. Oh well, I don’t believe I’ll be needing to cook a glove for a very long time.
I tried rubbing olive oil one time
But Popeye got really pissed.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
I may have to stop watching Fox News
CJ is buying lots of ads, I just hope he wasting his own money.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
So his stance since 85
has been that he didn’t take money now he is saying he might have taken a little bit? Jeez this guy never ceases to amaze me in his dumbness.
This amuses me...
James, asked if he knew the payments were wrong at the time, said, “Not really. You know what? In that era, in that culture, you really just can’t know exactly what all is going on. You hear things that are taking place.”
(vs.)
“I will not go up there and be soft,” he said. “When I go to Washington, D.C., you can rest assured that I’m going up there to kick the skunks out of the bushes.”
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So, we have a guy, that says FLAT OUT that “back in the day” when he was in the MIDDLE of a (proven to be) corrupt culture, he AT BEST knew nothing about it or more likely knew at least some of it and was complicit with bits that by HIS standards were “not so bad”.
Now, he wants us to send him to what is likely THE MOST corrupt and shady culture in the country and expect him to trust him to “kick the skunks out of the bushes”. James has PROVEN that either he’s a flat-out idiot that won’t be able to recognize the skunks if they spray him in the face OR that he’s totally fine cuddling up to them if it serves his ends. Either way, I can’t see ANY way that he’s anything better than a TERRIBLE representative for anyone but himself.
Well, get in to really good shape and make sure to wear your HazMat suit.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
I'm all for it and will support you in anyway I can RdrPwr...
…but honestly, I’m not sure it can be done. It’s too big a job.
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Okay, that made me laugh
You don’t’ even need to say something catchy. Just wear your underwear outside your pants. Please. And take a picture.
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
I just wanna smack the stupid out of him = I am going to win championships.
Both are ideal goals, both have merit, both require ability, strength, preparation, and some good fortune.
For this particular goal, in order to have minimumly adequate strength, it will take something like 15 to 18 months with both Wylie and Walker — upper body and lower body - just to get the s out of the stoopid….persevere, we all want to see your success, do not falter, no pain-no gain, it will be worth the effort, the reward is greater than the cost. HooRa !!
We are all behind you 100%
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
OOPs, I did something that the HMLT code took as a strike through.... ( chit !! )
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
question...
How can you “smack the stupid out of him”? Is there anything else there? I mean, if you “smack the stupid out” is there anything left for it to come out of?
With some, smack the stupid out and there is nothing left....
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
Dear Craig James....
When we resoundingly vote against you in this election… will you please just go away?
I would love to never have to see, hear or smell the mention of your name ever again…
"Transition is hard." - TT
by Houston Raider on Jan 13, 2012 11:06 AM CST reply actions
real estate bidness back in the 80's...
CJ’s name was on land signs for a company called Sherwood Blount Realtors…big tract at Arapaho and Dallas North Tollroad…just sayin’ for the record
"It was impossible to get a conversation going. Everybody was talking too much" - Yogi Berra
Who will Tubs vote for?
James admitted to Mark Davis he was using his son to “spring board” his campaign and didn’t seem to think it would be a big deal to loose all of Lubbock as votes …….
My questions who do you think Tubs is voting for ?
I wonder if there is way to see if he is even registered to vote or has voted in the last elections in Lubbock…
"we did a lot of things well, but there are several areas that need improving, our idea of moving forward is to do things that make you improve" - Jason Garrett
TuBS is still spending most of his time looking for Obama’s birth certificate.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Is Tubs able to vote in Lubbock?
I thought you had to declare yourself a citizen of the town first…
by ttuvault615 on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
So is this thread the exception to talking about politics?
I saw CJ’s interview on Fox News a while back, and he said that the situation in Lubbock with his son was “not how you treat human beings.” His son was in a DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL PROGRAM. I only made it to the high school level, but I was treated in some pretty inhumane ways during practice and in the off-season. Apparently his son, according to Bennie Wylie, Lincoln Riley and others didn’t like to participate in those “difficult” drills or to admit that he had ever done anything wrong. I guess how you treat human beings is to cuss them out, break down their door, and create factions amongst team-members because this kind of behavior was awarded with NJ getting nominated captain this year.
"We have some injuries on our team, but that won't make a difference in this game." - Coach TT Nov. 19, 2002 going into the Iron Bowl
by rpowel2 on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Good question - about the inherent politics of the thread......
…… hadn’t considered that angle, as this thing predates his political aspirations and really doesn’t have anything to do with political leaning.
Still, if it crosses a line I feel confident that Seth will chime in.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
Agree, haven’t seen much in this about politics specifically.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
I am never going to blame the son for the actions of the father.
son is caught between a rock and a hard spot.
It is kind of an empathy / sympathy thing !!!
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
There is plenty of blame for the son as well. I do almost feel bad for him having to grow up in the James cesspool.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
That is why I cannot hold him so accountable, a kid is all he was at the time.
I was a kid once also, still am in lots of ways that I like….
The son will become a man in his own right at some point, then he will be held more accountable.
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
He was young at the time, what was he 22?
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
20/21
Do you really think 20/21 year olds are all that mature and responsible?
Shawn Johnson... she's a nice lady
We could debate this until we're blue in the face.
It boils down to the company you keep. At the age, I had a lot of mature friends and some not so mature friends.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
Still do if you're lucky!
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain
Most of them matured.
A select few of us didn’t. I pride myself in that.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
As well you should!
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain
I don't know that it is but a matter of years.
I saw a lot more than than as I finally started learning real right from wrong.
A lot of it has to do with how much one has to unlearn from one’s childhood.
It would be a lot easier if it was really black and white, I like black and white.
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
Kid or not
one must always apologize for wrongdoings and mistakes. I had to when I was a kid and made mistakes as I’m sure you did too. He has never admitted any fault and until that public apology happens, he will be held with contempt in my eyes.
Dittio .... he was rewarded for his bad behavior ...
Who would want to do that? And, why?
I am in the closing chapters of Swing Your Sword....
I have a lingering thought that Senator James’ political career is part of his reward for being a good dad when his son needed him most….
In a sense, I should not have read the book, I do not like hating people, Hance has become lower than a snake’s belly after reading Mike Leach’s perspective…..people who wield their authority like that should be wielded on in return, I haven’t a civil word to describe my thoughts.
Living large in Texas...Texas forever.
I would really like the political discussions to end. I know that this is somewhat related to football and sports in that Craig James admits that accepted benefits, but at some point, James is no longer a sports figure and is more of a political figure and it would make me eternally happy never to see his name on DTN ever again.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
I don't know Seth.....
I don’t think he ever becomes just a political figure in some regards. Whether he ever entered politics or not, he is still a key figure in Leach getting fired. Leach getting fired led to Tubs being our coach. Tubs being our coach has led to a bad football team. We are all currently concerned with our bad football team. I don’t see how it can go away until we have a good football team.
Oh, and then there’s that hooker thing.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
by Dunka on Jan 13, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was initially thinking that too
And also that griping about him is cathartic. But I realized, it’s more like ripping off the scab right after it forms. It just keeps the wound fresh and doesn’t let it go away. I say this even tho I’m as guilty as the next because I realized that this is what REALLY bothered me about all the AJames press of this past season. Instead of helping it (IMO) MADE THINGS WORSE. And that’s the main reason that if they EVER bring up (without being asked, if asked all you can do is answer) any member of the James clan from now forward for at LEAST the next 5 years, they are ABSOLUTE MORONS.
That said, I think there’s things to discuss, I’m just saying discussing them probably just re-stokes the angry fires.
Yes, but take for example HeeroTX’s comment:
James, asked if he knew the payments were wrong at the time, said, "Not really. You know what? In that era, in that culture, you really just can’t know exactly what all is going on. You hear things that are taking place."
(vs.)
"I will not go up there and be soft," he said. "When I go to Washington, D.C., you can rest assured that I’m going up there to kick the skunks out of the bushes."
——————————
So, we have a guy, that says FLAT OUT that "back in the day" when he was in the MIDDLE of a (proven to be) corrupt culture, he AT BEST knew nothing about it or more likely knew at least some of it and was complicit with bits that by HIS standards were "not so bad".
Now, he wants us to send him to what is likely THE MOST corrupt and shady culture in the country and expect him to trust him to "kick the skunks out of the bushes". James has PROVEN that either he’s a flat-out idiot that won’t be able to recognize the skunks if they spray him in the face OR that he’s totally fine cuddling up to them if it serves his ends. Either way, I can’t see ANY way that he’s anything better than a TERRIBLE representative for anyone but himself.
This is a statement that would be worthy to discuss on a political blog. I don’t like this on DTN (sorry HeeroTX!). I realize that James will always be connected to Leach, and I can accept that, but I also know that sometimes people can’t help themselves and James’ political leanings will be discussed and I would prefer not to have that discussion here. I don’t think he’ll just be a political person, but at some point that’s going to be what he discusses at some political rally, and I really don’t want to read about it here on DTN. James got way too much time on DTN 2 years ago, I really don’t want to have to keep reliving that.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
I get all of your points and truthfully a part of me does feel the same way.
The mere thought of CJ leaves a bad taste in my mouth and it wouldn’t bother me if I never heard his name again.
At the same time it is worth noting: The difference between today and 2 years ago is that 2 years ago he was untouchable. No need to rehash what he did, but what made it so sickening is that there was no comeuppance. The difference today is that it is all about comeuppance. 2 years ago I purchased a ticket to today’s show via the emotions I spent watching him tear apart my program. It costs a lot more than I expected, and I’m invested now, so I really want to sit back and enjoy the second act.
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Harvey "Big Daddy" Pollitt: "What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?"
I totally understand how you feel, and I’d just add that I just don’t want this to get to the point where I see a Craig James FanShot every week about what stupid thing he’s going to say, because we all know that he’s going to say something stupid. I just don’t want to read about his political leanings here on DTN.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
I don't see this as debating his political position on anything
More the farce that he is. Apples an oranges to me. He is a central figure to what happened to the Texas Tech football program like it or not. As long as he continues to thrust himself in the public spotlight, I don’t see how he won’t be a point of interest here.
Now if folks start arguing his position on political issues, that’s a whole different thing and in that case I totally agree with you.
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No. The blockquoted portion is a discussion about politics. I don’t want this discussion here. If someone wants to talk about Craig James and what happened at Texas Tech, then fine. But I hate politics and if you want to discuss politics there are other avenues, but not on DTN.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
And I know I’m coming off as harsh on this, but I feel very strongly about this. This has the potential to lead to a slippery slope. There was a time when I allowed name calling of Craig James and Hance and Myers and then things really got out of control. I had to ask name-calling of anyone and everyone because lines had been crossed. I came within millimeters of banning two people that I didn’t want to ban because it. I don’t want that to happen again and I didn’t like having to clean up the mess that I created by initially encouraging it and allowing it. I don’t want to have to do that again.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
Yes, you are coming off as harsh & I disagree with your interpretation
But I understand your sensitivity and I respect your rules. You created DTN (which is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO appreciated as is your continued commitment to what I imagine is a BIG pain in the backside a lot of the time) so you get to say what goes and I will abide by what you decide.
Just so I’m clear – are you saying no more discussion of Craig James senate bid on DTN? I want to make sure I understand the rules. I don’t want to cross the line and I don’t want to put you in a bad/uncomfortable situation. Thanks.
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Yes. No more discussion about Craig James and his senate bid. This isn’t me saying you can’t mention his name or anything like that. Obviously, I understand that he’s connected to Texas Tech.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
heh
I disagree solely because I know my motivations while posting that, but I understand what you are saying and will refrain from talking about CJ in the future.
(in my defense, I was not trying to be political I would make the exact same argument in the exact same way if he was applying for a job regarding rules enforcement at the NCAA. My disapproval of James has nothing to do with his, views, party, politics or anything outside of the man himself)
More about CJ than politics
That entire quote doesn’t say anything about his politics other than he wants to ‘clean things up in D.C.’. That sentiment could be attributed to 100% of the candidates for 100% of the political persuasions.
Looks like a comment on his character, not his politics, IMO.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
What? Cleaning things up in Washington isn’t about politics? Sorry, I don’t want that on DTN.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
In my mind, he has now assumed the same body temperature
as the five dead hookers.
We ought to Haboob his ass
GAY
why even post this? People need to move on / get a life besides bashing Craig James. Its just sad
by CaribbeanRaider on Jan 13, 2012 2:36 PM CST reply actions
How many rules can you break in just one short post?
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Haha
Either Caribbean is in the wrong place or he has had too much rum today. Gotta follow the rules if you want to play
He's right you know...
It makes me gay (jolly) to bash on Craig James. But I guess it is sad because that is indeed the sum total of my life.
You’ve really given me something to ponder here, CaribbeanRaider, thank you. Time for some deep thinking (Jack Handy reference anyone?).
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I found CR’s comment to be somewhat queer(odd).
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
Caribbean takes the early lead
in the 2012 run for first to be banned on DTN
"Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles." ~ RW Emerson
by raider realist on Jan 13, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
So is there a new DTN rule regarding CJ?
and where will it be posted for future reference cause I’m about ready to drown some brain cells.
Good question
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
Here’s my stance.
1. I’ve always had a no politics rule. The article posted is from the DMN sports page, but the author is from the Austin bureau of the DMN. The article is about James announcing his senate bid. I also have a no name-calling and no racists or homophobic comments on DTN. James blurs the rule a bit because he’s also a sports figure and associated with TTU. I get that. I’m not going to ever ask that you not mention his name at all, but linking to an article about James’ start to his political career is political.
2. I only have so much time. If I do allow it then I have to spend my time reading comments and making decisions about whether or not something is political or not and I would rather spend my time writing. Call me selfish, but I would rather spend my time writing and not moderating.
3. I’m really the only one left that moderates. Tech92 occasionally does (thanks!), but almost all of the other contributing authors don’t moderate at all, and that’s fine. They may not feel comfortable doing so, but moderating requires quite a bit of my time. Again, I’d rather spend my time writing.
4. I don’t read any political blogs, but I do subscribe to the RSS feed of Dallas Magazine’s Frontburner blog. This is just one example about a place where you could discuss James and make comments if that’s what you want to do: http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2012/01/12/craig-james-confesses/ I am sure there are places to comment or post if that’s what you want to do, but I don’t want to do it here.
5. If there is something about James and Texas Tech, sure, whatever, I don’t care. If you want to comment about the internet meme, fine, whatever. I just don’t want FanShots or FanPosts related to his political career.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
Can we make this a fanpost or fanshot so everyone knows?
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Sure. I will do it tonight or tomorrow. Am at the Dallas zoo with the kid. He got to feed a giraffe.
Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation
by Seth C on Jan 14, 2012 11:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Very cool, you might try Fossil Rim one day. Don’t feed the ostriches, they will get aggressive.
Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.
by FriscoRaider on Jan 14, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
How fun!
Lions and tigers were always my favorites, plus the monkeys, orangutans and gorillas of course!
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