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HBO is eyeing controversial Washington State college football coach Mike Leach as the subject of a new documentary series.

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HBO is eyeing controversial Washington State college football coach Mike Leach as the subject of a new documentary series.

The team of Peter Berg, Jim Lampley, Sarah Aubrey and Michael Price are behind the project. That team produces the new HBO docu-series On Freddie Roach, set to debut Jan. 20, about the legendary boxing trainer battling Parkinson's Disease.

"I assume HBO will go for it because it will be really good," Berg tells B&C. "I don't know why they wouldn't."

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I am not sure

that this is a good idea, but if I had HBO then I would likely watch it.

Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.

by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 5:04 PM CST reply actions  

Oooooh....I like!!

Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!

by Austin, Tx on Jan 13, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not so sure,

besides this affects a lot of people …. and, if it’s truly about Coach Leach, he’s still awfully young …. lots more life to live and thoughts to think.

by rose7 on Jan 13, 2012 5:42 PM CST reply actions  

It sounds exactly like the HBO series they do every year at an NFL training camp

bq “The plan for the new series is to have it cover training camp and through the first or second game of the season.”bq

"...Fight for the school we love so dearly"

by mbrown603 on Jan 13, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Could be a huge distraction

or could be a great recruiting tool or both.

Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.

by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 6:17 PM CST reply actions  

I like the recruiting tool approach, and publicity for the school.

ML will be wearing Washinton State stuff for sure.

"Oh, yeah. We don't even talk about Bowls much. We're so far away from being a team right now that can have a chance to compete in a Bowl." HC Tommy Tuberville.

by Btech on Jan 14, 2012 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I like the idea of giving

Leach more time on national TV and would find some way to watch the show.

by bilesteve on Jan 13, 2012 6:24 PM CST reply actions  

you know

Mike will get a fair shake with Berg being a good friend of his. Who from her haw to play hance?

This is a 3 ring circus up in here......

by oldschoolraider on Jan 13, 2012 6:34 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

documentary or otherwise...

Always good to trust the person you give access to

This is a 3 ring circus up in here......

by oldschoolraider on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Maybe somefrom "Oh Brother, where art thou"

somebody who is sleazily self-righteous and of course who talks like a hick.

by bilesteve on Jan 15, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I like this

Leach has been somewhat of a “no-touch” person for many media types. Hopefully this will enabl him to give a positive image of himself, his team and his offensive genius. This is a bold move by HBO. One that will fly directly in the face of ESPN and allow some quality material to be produced about the inigmatic Coach Mike Leach. If this goes forward and becomes reality, i will be tempted to plot down some moola for HBO, just so I can view this series. On another angle, I sure do wish this was something about OUR coach,
.
but we got what we deserved, didn't we?
.

TTpilk
"Never, never, never give up." Winston Churchill

by TTpilk645 on Jan 13, 2012 6:57 PM CST reply actions  

They could always do a mocumentary about Tech football and show how we have all been Hanced.

Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.

by FriscoRaider on Jan 13, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

well, the documentary

might show some of the championship quality football Tuberville brought to Tech the last couple of years.

by bilesteve on Jan 15, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

With the money I save from no longer contributing to Tech, I can afford to subscribe to HBO. Awesome. I hope Cinemax is included.

by Raider75 on Jan 13, 2012 8:01 PM CST reply actions  

Hbo is 10 dollars a month! Lol

Get your kicks, on route 66...

by ReneR on Jan 14, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

As Long As It Is Truthful

As long as it is truthful, I don’t see it hurting Tech.

Now I just wanna see if I can catch some Wazzou games this year.

by RdRdr19881991 on Jan 14, 2012 7:50 AM CST reply actions  

i would seriously doubt,

HBO representing the facts in a representative manner. sure, it might be biased in his favor, and that would stroke all of our egos. but would it really help anything? i bet it will be pretty darn entertaining though, with HBO production money behind it

by Jameson Vernon on Jan 14, 2012 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

Wonder what all Wash St. Gets out of the deal.

They obviously get national exposure. They probably get some money as well. Sounds like some good decisions being made by all parties involved. Wonder what that is like. Also they play at AZ St. Next year. I plan on going to check out that game.

by Raider75 on Jan 15, 2012 8:51 AM CST reply actions  

Hope HBO does it

I’ll find a way to watch, somehow. There’s lots of ways to skin a cat (actually, I like cats).

by djn on Jan 15, 2012 4:48 PM CST reply actions  

Sounds more like the CBSCS Confidential

but hopefully on HBO it would include the “colorful language” that is involved in men playing and coaching football

College Football: "Our Traditions are now for Sale"
.....................................................................................

"Well the ball just didnt bounce our way today" Tommy Tubervile, after decades of coaching experience, the best he can do ....................................................................................................................................
Blaze a trail, spend some time in West Texas, feel the sand sting your skin and burn your eyes, let the winter dry your hands, learn that its there only because our ancestors didn’t want to be around other people … that’s West Texas

by Gus Mitchem on Jan 16, 2012 11:42 AM CST reply actions  

Just in someone is interested

there is a new picture of Mike up at Cougcenter and he is in excellent condition and ready for prime time TV.

by bilesteve on Jan 16, 2012 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

Just a random thought.............why

is Coach Leach called “controversial”? Was Sharon Tate called controversial after her run in with the Manson family?

We ought to Haboob his ass

by blackbeard on Jan 18, 2012 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

Serves her right for renting the notorious house where the Manson Murders took place.

You play with fire like that you might get burned.

"...Fight for the school we love so dearly"

by mbrown603 on Jan 18, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I tend to agree with your sentiment since other than the court cases there doesn’t seem to be much controversy left. It is pretty well settled that Hance/James fiasco was a fraud.

Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.

by FriscoRaider on Jan 18, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t some folks need to think that he is a good guy for there to be a controversy?

Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.

by FriscoRaider on Jan 18, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Think they really still think he is a good guy? I bet not, but who cares what they think.

Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.

by FriscoRaider on Jan 18, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Interesting question...

I had dinner with several folks from Lubbock last night. One with a relative high up at Tech, the others Tech alum who have lived in Lubbock forever. None of these folks liked Leach – not haters – they just didn’t care for him (mostly for what they thought were ill-thought out, embarrassing, arrogant comments to the media).

None of them were Tuberville sunshine pumpers or haters either. Just thought it was interesting coming from folks I have a lot of respect for and who discussed the issue like we were talking about the weather for the most part – none of the “you’re not a real fan if you don’t agree with me” thing.

When you have intelligent, informed folks on both sides of the issue – in significant numbers – yes – that does equal controversy in my book.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain

by Austin, Tx on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

So I take your comment to mean that you

and the controversial chancellor made up?

We ought to Haboob his ass

by blackbeard on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Ummm, no, bb.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain

by Austin, Tx on Jan 18, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting to me that the comments were interpreted as

these folks being okay with Leach’s termination. None of them were happy with how it was handled. Not one of them like Hance either.

They just aren’t Leach fans and weren’t upset that he was gone.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain

by Austin, Tx on Jan 18, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Whew .............

i guess my “outrage” interfered with my reading — my feeling of shame,too. (Do I have a right to feel shame for what TTU did?)

by rose7 on Jan 18, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny you should ask...

…none are huge football fans. More so Tech fans.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain

by Austin, Tx on Jan 22, 2012 12:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Does that mean they are

“ok’ with the means to achieve Coach Leach’s removal? That’s what I labor with. Sure, I can see their sentiment. People have lots of varied taste, even in other people. And, College coaches come and go, for even more varied reasons. But, you pay them, slap them on the back and wish them luck. But, to these friends, the “ends justify the means”? Was it worth it to them even tho the entire staff, coaches and all their families had to pay such a heavy price; much-less the players, the team??
As FriscoRaider said this fiasco was a fraud; it’s been proven. Oh, this is so discouraging to hear. I do care about other’s opinions that differ from mine. That they don’t appreciate a certainly ‘personality’ type, or win loss record. If that results in my choice loosing … it happens everday.
But, to try and ruin a man because he embarrasses them??
I hope it just apathy … but, that scares me as well.

by rose7 on Jan 18, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

It is hard for me to understand that one could care about TTU and not be outraged by the fraud perpetrated against TTU.

Simple rule of thumb: Everything before the but is BS.

by FriscoRaider on Jan 18, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he's still controversial to a fair % of the general population that has only cursory knowledge of the events.

You folks are of course very familiar with what occurred having lived it for the last two plus years. We at CougCenter have read all things Leach related since the hire and prior to so, besides being giddy over the upcoming season, we have a good understanding of how things were skewed in the media.

But not everyone has the interest to read the books and articles or even cares that much about football. Even my sis, after I texted her completely spazzing out the minute I’d heard we’d hired him, made some crack about locking players in closets. And I’m sure she got her “information” from one of her friends, most of whom are like her and have an interest in sports but not to the point where they really do some digging and find out the truth. Needless to say, I set her straight .My point is simply that people not close to the issue might still think of him as controversial with respect to the TT fiasco.

And I guess from a purely football standpoint he could be regarded as controversial too. Who else uses a sandpit to discipline and condition athletes? Who else sticks a desk on the 50 yard line and makes a kid study? Who else has a player run around campus with a cinder block and answer questions at various departments? Who else flings it down field eleventy billion times a game? Anyway, just my thoughts.

by wazzu93 on Jan 18, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Good points and I have to say I'm very jealous of your new hire.

My real point was to point out that in the “fiasco” that was December of 09, the media seems to ONLY depict Mike Leach as controversial and none of the other players involved including our controversial chancellor and his controversial friend/alleged business partner and former espn analyst and former smu football player (remember the 5).

We ought to Haboob his ass

by blackbeard on Jan 18, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

So glad y'all are informing yourselves

I would recommend reading the depositions from the lawsuits as well – they will tell you everything you need to know.

As far as the sandpit, the desk at the 50 yard line, etc. some say controversial, I say unorthodox and innovative!!

That’s part of why we miss him so much, well, and of course the man gets results. Not to mention the way he can fire up a fan base!

Here is the link to a page where you can find all the depositions and more if you’re interested (for Tech fans – it has been updated and has all kinds of new stuff I haven’t seen yet – I know what I’ll be doing for a while!): http://lubbockonline.com/filed-online/2011-01-12/leach-documents#.TxdRqfmfAZY

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain

by Austin, Tx on Jan 18, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Well Austin

I have found those types of neutral folks the most rare. (Perhaps they understood your views and didn’t wish to set off the powder keg?) There is a segmented breakdown in Lubbock of different attitudes, unlike what some people say. There’s not everyone like minded on it. (And remember how many showed up at the book signing to keep the numbers grounded) there are also people who don’t care, and those that are clearly on teamwhitchcoach and whatever other camps there are but we have been over this before.

The most interesting variable I have found is bar-talk. Because with a little bit of beer the story becomes “He abused players in a shed” WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHAT? Yeah. That has a different meaning today. Fortunately, I told the guy to look into it, and he thought it sounded kinda weird too. That was the most exotic take on it I have seen so far and it was within the last week or so.

by Raider289 on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not like Tech and LBK embraced Leach from day one.

It wasn’t until the 2004 season (his fourth) when Tech hit the 50,000 mark for avg attendance. He and his style was (and still is for many) an acquired taste. It took years for the bandwagon to fill up. In fact, the attendance went down his first year at Tech (from 45,800 in 1999 to 42,200 in 2000).

Avg attendance also went backwards a bit from 2004 to 2005, then again from 2005 to 2006. So while he clearly had a loyal following, it wasn’t quite the Pilgrimage to Mecca from day one that some portray. I would say the TRUE fascination for a large number of Tech fans didn’t actually start until 2006-2007.

This board didn’t actually gain large numbers until after the 2007 season (when I also joined), if I’m not mistaken.

11/12/11...66-6...I once was blind, but now I see.

by Tech92 on Jan 20, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

This board wasn't near as cool until I showed up.

Write. That. Down.

" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Jan 20, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Truer words

were never spoken.

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain

by Austin, Tx on Jan 21, 2012 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Eh. You're okay...

: )

11/12/11...66-6...I once was blind, but now I see.

by Tech92 on Jan 21, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I like to think I blow "ok" outta the water.

But, I’ll take what I can get.

" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Jan 21, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

So, you have dumped me, haven't you?

You’re just “disappearing” me instead of telling me? Is this payback for how things ended back in the day???

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain

by Austin, Tx on Jan 22, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

That was for Tech92 BTW

I don’t want KWash to be wondering, WTF???

I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. -Mark Twain

by Austin, Tx on Jan 22, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Way to go, Austin!!

Why, when I said that, did I think of the movie “Red October” …. “Way to go, Dallas”?

by rose7 on Jan 18, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

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